English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

RegDwigнt

12:00

@MattЭллен and yet that is precisely the step she's been utterly failing at her entire life.

Matt Эллен

you don't know, man. she could be swimming in LEGO

RegDwigнt

Swimming in LEGO will scratch it up!

Also, yourself.

Matt Эллен

is it spam:

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Q: Tips to create constructive accounting essay help

Essay writing is a toughest task for me since I am not much bothered about grammar and spelling. My professor would always scold me due to improper sentence construction. Yesterday I got an accounting essay assignment. I have written some rough copies of the essay. But it is not lack constructive...

essay

it has a link in it to some service or other

tchrist

Probably.

RegDwigнt

What the hell is an accounting essay anyway?

skullpatrol

12:03

did you guys see the Gold, silver, and bronze-bach conjectures?

RegDwigнt

Who writes essays in accounting?

terdon

@MattЭллен Yes.

Matt Эллен

I will spam it and worry later

tchrist

It certainly is not a question.

Matt Эллен

oh, I guess someone else did :D

RegDwigнt

12:04

I walk the talk, baby.

tchrist

@skullpatrol Goldberg Variations?

Matt Эллен

Randal Munroe variations

RegDwigнt

Silberhuegel Rondos.

skullpatrol

10 hours ago, by skullpatrol

The weak and the strong are the Goldbach conjectures, the very weak and very strong ones are Silverbach conjectures and the other two being formulated by Bronzebach.

10 hours ago, by skullpatrol

tchrist

Yes, I told you it was a Goldberg thing.

Rube.

skullpatrol

12:08

what's a"rube"?

!!define rube

tchrist

At the risk of being branded craven, I think a moderator’s edit on the title might be safer:

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Q: Origin of "name happened" form - from "shit happens" via "magic happens"?

There's a form in current English, "then thing happened" or just "thing happened", where you transition the name of a thing (a person, character, or perhaps a thing like say a blockbuster novel), to mean in the phrase the dramatic effects of the arrival of the thing It's kind of a natty twistin...

etymology slang origin-unknown 20th-century-language

Jarvis the Bot

@skullpatrol rube A person of rural heritage; a yokel.

RegDwigнt

It's a machine.

Andrew Leach

Rube Goldberg = W. Heath Robinson

RegDwigнt

Think Honda commercial.

tchrist

12:09

Rube Goldberg

Reuben Garrett Lucius "Rube" Goldberg (July 4, 1883 – December 7, 1970) was an American cartoonist, sculptor, author, engineer, and inventor. He is best known for a series of popular cartoons depicting complicated gadgets that perform simple tasks in indirect, convoluted ways, similar to Heath Robinson devices in the UK, as well as the Storm P devices in Denmark. Goldberg received many honors in his lifetime, including a Pulitzer Prize for his political cartooning in 1948 and the Banshees' Silver Lady Award 1959. Goldberg was a founding member and the first president of the National Cartoonists...

Zoe

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Q: Should this sentence use “is ambitious” or “is ambition”?

Which one of the following two sentences is correct? and why? In my opinion, The characteristic that best describes me is ambitious. (adj.) In my opinion, The characteristic that best describes me is ambition. (n.) It is supposed to be the answer for this question:- "what personal quality de...

nouns adjectives

I think it should be ambitious.

Andrew Leach

Interesting.

tchrist

@Zoe I think it should be annoying.

RegDwigнt

The sentence should nothing. It's not your slave.

Zoe

@tchrist I think you are not answering the question :P

tchrist

12:10

@Zoe I already didn’t answer it.

terdon

@Zoe Yes he is, not that he could have said annoyance.

RegDwigнt

I will not answer it tomorrow.

skullpatrol

do you wanna see an annoying question on MathEd.SE?

Zoe

@terdon "annoying" is not part of the context of the question.

RegDwigнt

So McDonald's is about to be outlawed in Russia, eh.

I am very curious how that pans out.

Zoe

12:11

@skullpatrol Go ahead. But, I don't go there

@RegDwigнt Woah.

skullpatrol

@RegDwigнt Orly?

why?

RegDwigнt

Well guess why.

Zoe

It's american?

terdon

@RegDwigнt Seriously? Wow! On what grounds? "Thou shalt not produce crappy food"?

skullpatrol

politics?

RegDwigнt

12:13

Actually their own fault. When Russia annexed Crimea, they shut down their restaurants there.

tchrist

Idiots.

skullpatrol

what is Crimea?

RegDwigнt

@terdon actually they are starting small. It's only cheeseburgers, chicken burgers, filet-o-fishes and milkshakes that shall be made illegal.

terdon

@skullpatrol It's a class A crime.

RegDwigнt

But that's like 50% of their products.

tchrist

12:13

@skullpatrol That’s Ms River to you.

@RegDwigнt Quoth which ayatollah?

RegDwigнt

@skullpatrol a nice peninsula in Russia. With lots of grey boats.

tchrist

They’re proving the McDonald’s Conjecture correct again.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist Rospotrebnadsor.

skullpatrol

SSSSTTTAAAUUUUPPP ganging up on me

tchrist

“Two countries each with McDonald’s Restaurants in them shall never go to war against each other.”

RegDwigнt

12:15

Federal Service for Supervision of Consumer Rights Protection and Human Welfare

The Federal Service for Supervision of Consumer Rights Protection and Human Well-Being (Russian: Федеральная служба по надзору в сфере защиты прав потребителей и благополучия человека) or Rospotrebnadzor (Russian: Роспотребнадзор) is the federal service responsible for Supervision of consumer rights Protection and Human Well-Being in Russia. The service is submissive and was included into the structure of the Ministry of Health Care of Russia till 2012. This service was founded in 2004. Since may 2012 Rospotrebnadzor was excluded from the Minsistry of Health and reports directly to the Russian...

skullpatrol

:D

tchrist

Submissive?

RegDwigнt

Yeah, what the hell is with that.

tchrist

You mean supine.

skullpatrol

5 mins ago, by skullpatrol

do you wanna see an annoying question on MathEd.SE?

are you ready?

RegDwigнt

12:17

Not at all.

tchrist

I thought you were going to go there and ask an annoying question.

Johan Larsson

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes

lol, some guy failed to rob a store because he couldn't express his intentions to the cashiers.

RegDwigнt

How'd that be different from any other day?

@tchrist it says Minsistry, too.

skullpatrol

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Q: What is it about the education of the Jewish people that has allowed them to produce to such remarkable Mathematicians?

There are far too many mathematicians for me to name here, you only need to wiki a mathematician of note to find out he is Jewish. Are they taught to think logically and analytically from a young age? What are the possible explanations for this? Have their been any studies on this? P. S. If some...

pedagogy education-research cultural-differences religious-institution

LOL

Saladin

hello guys:)

This mail here is on behalf of entire ABC SOC team to express gratitude for skillful and professional handling of the TICKET #11088,999,808 by your top XXX support professionals i.e John,Dermot and Chris . The system is back on its state of operational readiness without any loss of backup or configuration.

proof read ^ ? please

RegDwigнt

12:22

@skullpatrol How the hell is that even on-topic there?

skullpatrol

@RegDwigнt dunno, I told you it was annoying

RegDwigнt

@Saladin back to, space after comma, period after i.e.

No space before period.

Saladin

@RegDwigнt got it

Andrew Leach

@Saladin or, back in.

RegDwigнt

Also, don't torture people with "this email here is"es.

Saladin

12:23

@RegDwigнt lol

RegDwigнt

Just cut to the chase already. People don't have time to read that.

Saladin

@RegDwigнt you suggesting re-write?

Andrew Leach

I'd like to express the gratitude of the entire team for ...

Saladin

@AndrewLeach makes sense

thanks

RegDwigнt

@Saladin I always suggest rewriting.

@Saladin see how you didn't say "this comment here is to say thanks to you"?

Saladin

12:31

can issue be impeding?

does it make sense to say impeding issue

tchrist

Ok cravens, I’ve done it:

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Q: Origin of "name happened" form - from "<EXPLETIVE> happens" via "magic happens"?

There’s a form in current English, then <THING> happened or just <THING> happened, where you transition the NAME of a thing (a person, character, or perhaps a thing like say a blockbuster novel), to mean in the phrase the dramatic effects of the arrival of the thing It’s kind of a natty-twisting...

etymology slang origin-unknown 20th-century-language

RegDwigнt

That is not how you get to 10k edits in record time.

terdon

@Saladin Impeding what? The answer is probably no, but we'd need more context to provide an alternative.

Alraxite

Does anyone know of a reliable method to add music to your iPod without iTunes?

tchrist

@RegDwigнt It took a long time, yes.

See the diffs.

terdon

12:34

@Alraxite Many. Depends on OS.

Saladin

@terdon like how to say old-tiring-unfinished-unresolved issue?

RegDwigнt

@Alraxite yes. 1. throw away the iPod. 2. buy a piano. 3. profit.

Alraxite

@terdon Windows?

@RegDwigнt I wish.

terdon

@Alraxite There are loads of apps for that, just google. I don't use Windows so I can't suggest any.

@Saladin Um, what?

Alraxite

I once tried Foola. Didn't work and screwed the iPod.

Then I had to reset it with iTunes.

@terdon What do you use on your machine?

terdon

12:36

@Alraxite Linux.

RegDwigнt

So let me sum that up. You need to use a tool to download another tool to download music. Seriously, throwing away seems like a more sensible choice.

tchrist

I have waved you custards a flag. Please take the appropriate action.

Alraxite

@terdon Yes, I know. I meant the application you would suggest for Linux.

tchrist

I told you it wouldn’t work were it merely from me.

terdon

@Alraxite Ah, well, rhythmbox can do this, amarok used to, clementine can as well (that might work on Windows), then you have gtkpod. All sorts of stuff really. Finally you also have the VM with Windows installed option :)

Alraxite

12:38

@terdon Thanks, I'll look into them.

kwak

12:49

is laboratory formed of labor (=work)+ rat +ory (=practising place)?

Zoe

Heyyy, could someone vet my answer or tell me what you think? Would like some advise, ell.stackexchange.com/questions/29897/sold-were-sold-being-sold

RegDwigнt

@kwak -ory is not a practising place, it's just a suffix. So is -at, for that matter.

kwak

@Zoe sorry I'm no veterinary

RegDwigнt

You take a verb, turn it into past tense, turn it into adjective, then use the adjective as a noun.

kwak

@RegDwigнt ah ok

RegDwigнt

12:52

But all of that happened in Latin. In English, the whole word is the root.

terdon

@kwak Assuming that Latin follows the same trend as modern Spanish, the -tory means "where X is done". For example, escribir -> escritorio.

Zoe

@kwak Do you mean veterinarian? A vet is a doctor for animals. To vet is to critically examine.

terdon

I'm sure that Cerb or tchrist will jump in and correct me though.

Zoe

!!define veterinarian

Jarvis the Bot

@Zoe veterinarian A medical doctor who treats non-human animals.

kwak

12:53

@terdon but mandatory? doesn't work

terdon

Mandatorio?

kwak

@Zoe yes sorry :))

Zoe

3 mins ago, by Zoe

Heyyy, could someone vet my answer or tell me what you think? Would like some advise, http://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/29897/sold-were-sold-being-sold

terdon

@kwak don't be, both work.

!!wiki Veterinary_physician

Jarvis the Bot

Veterinary physician

A veterinary physician, colloquially called a vet, shortened from veterinarian (American English, Australian English) or veterinary surgeon (British English), is a professional who practices veterinary medicine by treating disease, disorder, and injury in non-human animals. In many countries, the local nomenclature for a vet is a regulated and protected term, meaning that members of the public without the prerequisite qualifications and/or registration are not able to use the title. In many cases, the activities that may be undertaken by a veterinarian (such as animal treatment or surgery) are...

kwak

12:54

ah :)

Zoe

!!define veterinary

RegDwigнt

@terdon there is no such thing as -tory in the first place.

Jarvis the Bot

@Zoe veterinary Of or relating to the medical or surgical treatment of animals, especially domestic and farm animals

kwak

^

RegDwigнt

The t is part of a different suffix.

But again, if the question is about English, there are no suffixes there anyway.

Zoe

12:55

I'm not sure if veterinary can be used on it's own as a noun.

kwak

the t is from -at like he said

terdon

@RegDwigнt Oh yeah? Tell that to the British.

RegDwigнt

Sputnik does not have a prefix, a root, a suffix and an ending in English. Only a root.

terdon

And I was thinking of the Spanish form, laboratorio.

RegDwigнt

@terdon I keep telling things to the British, but all they do is never listen.

kwak

12:56

!!urban orios

Jarvis the Bot

@kwak My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.

@kwak orio a white guy dressed as a black guy.

terdon

!!wiki tories

Jarvis the Bot

Tory

A Tory holds a political philosophy (Toryism) based on the traditionalism and conservatism originating with the Cavalier faction during the English Civil War (sometimes more scrupulously known as the "Wars of the Three Kingdoms"). This ideology is prominent in the politics of the United Kingdom, and also appears in parts of The Commonwealth, particularly in Canada. It also had exponents in parts of the former British Empire, such as the Loyalists of British America who opposed American independence during the American Revolutionary War. The Tory ethos has been summed up with the phrase 'God, King...

terdon

See?

RegDwigнt

That would be the first word that is all suffix and no root.

kwak

12:57

mandatory = manda (=ask) + tory (=political philosophy ^) :p

!!define mandatory

Jarvis the Bot

@kwak mandatory Obligatory; required or commanded by authority.

Zoe

!!define life

Jarvis the Bot

@Zoe life The state that follows birth, and precedes death; the state of being alive and living.

terdon

@RegDwigнt All form and no content?

RegDwigнt

@kwak manda is a very offensive Russian word for cunt.

Zoe

12:58

You manda! Sounds weird.

kwak

@RegDwigнt yes they always ask you

RegDwigнt

Jul 4 at 22:46, by RegDwigнt

Everything in Russian is a suffix.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt You say that about everything.

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RegDwigнt

Jul 4 at 22:46, by RegDwigнt

There's even a verb that is all suffixes and not a single root.

terdon

Pandatory n., a right wing politician with two black eyes.

kwak

12:59

funnily panda is the least aggressive work possible

Saladin

no one discusses Gaza ?

are we from MARS?

kwak

@Saladin no TV here

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