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14:01
@tchrist I got a mailer daemon message for an email I sent you over a year ago.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yeah.
I’m having troubles.
I think it's fixed, but ug.
I don’t know. I’m getting ancient mail.
Weird with a beard.
you rang?
14:04
:D
Congratulations!
thanks! My beard is quite something.
Mine is a beard.
Is it still unified?
I was thinking of putting my actual face up.
14:07
:o
luckily this is my real face
I'm not sure how people would react to that though.
I think I get a better reaction as a fox.
They'd be surprsed for a bit. you'd have to put up with a couple of weeks of people commenting on it
and then a few months later when @Cerb notices again
plus all the people who don't visit often
but generally people would be positive about it
But then the newcomers would be all like "Oh ur a chik a/s/l?"
yeah. that would happen :(
plus your foxes are cute
They are rather.
And my real mug looks better in motion.
14:12
true
How would you know?
I don't think you ever seen my face move before.
because things in general look better in motion
it's why still images get airbrushed
Objects in motion tend to look better and appear larger.
It's why I run so fast.
Oh, that's why you're 7 feet tall.
14:14
exactly
the guy across the gangway from me has somene on speaker phone, so I'm imagining that the one on the phone is really under the desk, speaking into a bucket
hahaha
What's a gangway? The aisle?
yes! the aisle. I couldn't remember the word
!!define gangway
@MattЭллен gangway A passageway through which to enter or leave, such as one between seating areas in an auditorium, or between two buildings.
Gangway! Coming through!
barges down chat
dodges out of the way watch it!
14:19
I still can't get over your blueness.
Look! points
You're blue!
yeah. it's not properly sunk in yet.
You've got a damn diamond after your name!
Dude.
Duuuuuude.
my close votes are binding
14:20
That takes getting used to.
I should put an answer to FF question to that affect.
...but I decided not to. I'm hungry.
Pizza bites or black bean burger?
hmmm. I'm having pizza tonight, so have a bean burger
OK.
14:24
Damn. Out of buns.
I could have a hot dog.
Have Matt's pizza.
scrunches face
He's probably having it wrong.
Like with bangers and mash or chips or something British.
Not at all in a proper American fashion.
(which is with guns and apple pie)
I was going to have it with rocket, but I forgot to buy some
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 this is me
14:27
What's rocket again? Lettuce?
I wanted to see your diamond.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 nice :D
feels left out
@KitFox yeah, it's spikey looking peppery lettuce
omg Andrew's blueness is freaking me out now too.
14:27
!!user
@MattЭллен like arugula?
@KitFox I think it's the same
!!help parent-user
Did I tell you that we converted a limey just a few weeks ago? Haha! Take that!
@MattЭллен Command parent-user does not exist.
14:29
@KitFox converted them to what?
!!help parentuser
!!user 34124
@MattЭллен Command parentuser does not exist.
@KitFox Is that some extraordinary rendition euphemism?
Converted them to American.
@MattЭллен I think it was overwritten in the last push and I never put it back.
Actually, I have her open and her innards strewn across the desktop over there. thumbs behind her
14:30
I see
Oh, Matt is a blue
Congrats!
anything serious?
@Gigili thanks!
Maybe I could tinker a bit more since it is lunchtime.
@Gigili Andrew too.
@KitFox rocket is arugula
Well, 10:30 is a little early to actually be lunchtime.
Great, the ones I voted for
I wish @Mahnax was one of them too
Mahnax would be a good mod
Yes.
So would Matt and Andrew.
giggles
Eventually.
@KitFox hehehe
14:35
I shouldn't have looked at the bot.
are you getting drawn in?
Damn, this place is beginning to look like a mod-only room.
I checked my email.
that's work! you deserve a break
No, I mean my old email.
14:37
oh?
They want me to pull data and also to know if I am interested in still working there, and then big boss backpedalled on what my former manager said.
So.
sighs
One of the reasons I stopped working there.
@terdon I feel so ... black.
Congrats @AndrewLeach
14:39
My former manager said "hey, as you know, your temp position ends in 4 days. The dean wants to know if you are still interested in working on the project at all."
@Mitch ♪ And I'm feeeeeling blue ♪
@terdon ♪ You got me singing the blues ♪
@Gigili Thanks. :-)
♪ without a something something my something ♪
Then the big boss was all like "well, really we're looking for funding and that wouldn't be until September, so if you can't, don't think we really need you or anything, just that we won't have hired anyone by then and nobody will have been trained even if we did."
14:41
lolwhut?
Exactly.
It's a "hey we can't get our shit together" email
Same old same old
Thing is, my temp position is ending because they can't keep me in a temp contract longer than seven months.
Against the rules.
So I don't know how they think they are going to pay me.
they could hire you as a consultant
No, they can't.
They would have to approve a part time regular position or something.
I'm tempted to see just how far over backwards they will bend.
14:45
lol
0
Q: What is a non-gender word to replace Sir/Ma'am?

jeditransistorGoogle returns discussions on this topic since early 2010, but we continue to use Sir/Ma'am and it feels sexist and may offend someone that is considered transgender or asexual. Can we please decide on a replacement that is non-gender specific? Why does the military continue to use this as a stan...

d'oh
forgot that was binding
oh well
It was the right thing to do.
That's a dupe, innit?
If it was a dupe, please reclose as dupe.
I found it Not Constructive, Not a Real Question, and Primarily Opinion Based.
14:48
Maybe I was thinking of this:
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Q: Can "sir" be used to address female officers?

bibThe use of the term sir as a form of address for men, especially those of higher rank or status, is discussed in several prior questions including this one. They all indicate that the term is reserved to males, and that there are a number of related terms for females, such as ma'am. A review of ...

Well, that’s related.
Man it is hard to type with an adoring kitten wanting brecky on your lap.
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Q: "Dear Sir or Madam" versus "To whom it may concern"

PopsWhen is it appropriate to use the terms Dear Sir or Madam and To whom it may concern? The rules I was taught state that Dear Sir or Madam should be used when you're writing a letter to a person about something that person has direct involvement in (e.g. returning a defective product to a custome...

Also related:
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A: What is implied in calling someone "Citizen"?

T.E.D.What that implies to me is that in the fictional world in question, the most important thing to know about someone you otherwise don't know is that they are subject to the same government as you. It implies a preoccupation with the state which we in this reality don't quite have. For example, wh...

Anyhoo. So my response is "Let me know what you have in mind for terms and I'll consider it."
Too obnoxious?
heh
Probably.
14:50
@AndrewLeach Comrade
@KitFox heh. no.
These things never go anywhere.
That's entirely the point.
Don't fucking ask me "Hey, you want to commit to this?" without specifying what you want me to commit to.
takes deep breath
It's OK. I don't really work there anymore.
It was probably posted by a transexual.
jedi trans sister
They have BMO as their avatar. A character who has no gender
and dreams of asexual romance
14:52
Check the 23rd chromosome. If that doesn’t work, check the 23rd psalm.
!!wiki bmo adventure time
The American animated television series Adventure Time features a cast of fictional characters created by Pendleton Ward. The series revolves the adventures of protagonists Finn (voiced by Jeremy Shada), a 15-year-old human boy, and his best friend Jake (voiced by John DiMaggio), a dog with magical powers to change shape and grow and shrink at will. Finn and Jake live in the post-apocalyptic Land of Ooo, and travel the land while they adventure. Along the way, they interact with the other main characters of the show: Princess Bubblegum (voiced by Hynden Walch), the Ice King (voiced by To...
Right. Commute. I need to pick the car up from having a bit of work done. BBL.
I can't figure out where the welcome command is on this thing.
15:02
welcome command?
Not command. Function? Method? Whosywhatsit.
what thing?
oh! the bot
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I feel like it's been omitted from the build or something. It's there, but I don't know what I'm doing anymore, if I ever did.
15:05
!!welcome KitFox
@KitFox Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
I used it the other day.
OK. So it is there, but the automatic is not working.
Now remind me how to push my code again?
I need to do publi.sh to build it, right?
git push origin master
oh, yeah, probably
!!refresh
Damn it.
!!hello?
Oh stupid. Read the output, KitFox.
15:10
Congrats @MattЭллен
Thanks, Sudhir
Can I speak the persons to whom I voted here?
!!refresh
Great to see that two of three mods belongs to UK.
!!are you there, honey?
15:13
@KitFox Nope
@Sudhir it's up to you.
Hahaha
!!help wordwar
@KitFox wordwar: No info is available
raises eyebrow
!!help listcommands
@KitFox listcommands: Lists commands. /listcommands [page=0]
15:14
I voted as 1st choice to you @MattЭллен
@Sudhir we now have more European mods than American mods :D
@Sudhir thanks
Yeah. Last time how many mods belongs to America?
@MattЭллен Only for certain sterling-inclusive senses of European.
!!help refresh
@KitFox refresh: Reloads the browser window I live in
15:15
as far as I know both Kit and Simchona are from America
Oh. You didn't actually refresh, did you?
@tchrist I'll fight UKIP all the way.
!!refresh
@MattЭллен:You mean kitfox?
@MattЭллен nohat in California abideth.
15:16
!!help wordwar
@Sudhir yes
Crud.
I guess she belongs to UK.
@Sudhir KitFox is American.
Oh I see
15:17
@tchrist ah! I thought so
@MattЭллен Well, they’re nutters.
@tchrist yeah, but people keep listening too them. their blight is spreading.
But she has written as New England? @MattЭллен
I have no idea how to debug this. I shouldn't be allowed to touch code anymore.
It's funny to think that Swizerland is no longer part of the EU
15:18
@Sudhir New England is the northeastern states in the US.
I’ve seen pie-in-the-sky talk of a Nordic Union trade-linking the Nordic-speaking countries and the English-speaking ones.
@MattЭллен Yeah, I’ve commented on this.
@KitFox: I thought its a part of UK.
Always joiners and splitters at war eternally.
@Sudhir Nope.
Oh I see!
15:19
@KitFox Well, you could always annex Old England if things don’t work out with Europe.
Or at least Cornwall.
Give Ireland to the Newfies.
@MattЭллен:What's the duration of being mod?
Till death do us part.
I've been a mod for 2 days.
I'll be a mod for... ever?
The forever endeavour.
unless I turn out to be bad at it
15:21
Until you give it up or they take it from you.
I mean when next election would commence?
Oh my ... tch How did I manage to stick a random question mark in there?
When the flags get too heavy for the current demigods to bear.
@Sudhir When we need more mods.
@Sudhir I don't know. the last one was 2 years ago
15:21
Oh I see!
And others must take up the fallen banner.
I can see the mods as the color-carriers of our brigade, the standard-bearers. They tend to get shot at the most.
@MattЭллен: Is there any guy in this site belongs to Switzerland?
PEOPLE DO NOT BELONG TO COUNTRIES
@Sudhir I don't know. I haven't checked everyone's nationalities
15:23
!!refresh
I wish you piñas would stop abusing belong that way. It’s just wrong.
@Sudhir tchrist is, of course, correct. You should ask "Is anyone from Switzerland a member of the site?"
@tchrist Easy.
consults log
Thanks for the correction.
15:25
How can I figure out what is causing this missing variable name error?
Check the diffs maybe?
@KitFox you need to hadoozle the majigga
diffs are good too
Or maybe I should just figure out how to test it before I commit it.
"I do not know what I am doing" is almost my standard commit message.
I am wondering what this weird little icon is on the diffs and worrying that I might have messed up the encoding accidentally.
@KitFox I was right. He doesn’t learn.
Jan 1 '13 at 15:32, by Sudhir
You belong to?
Jan 1 '13 at 15:32, by tchrist
People do not belong to things.
Jan 1 '13 at 15:32, by tchrist
Sometimes people belong to each other.
15:29
That's no reason to make generalities.
Jan 1 '13 at 15:33, by Sudhir
okay tchrist
I’m ancient, but even I remember conversations of 18 months ago.
Jan 1 '13 at 15:34, by Sudhir
You belong to UK
Jan 1 '13 at 15:34, by tchrist
No, you cannot say that.
You might think pineapples is a bit broad.
Feb 16 '13 at 15:49, by tchrist
@Novice You cannot use “belong” in that way.
But it is not. It is subcontinentally endemic.
EOF
!!hello
@KitFox Did you?
I don't know. I think I should rollback and pull down the files again.
If that even makes sense to say.
Except I'm not sure how to do that.
@Matt please help me.
@KitFox hi, sorry, work happened
15:39
'sok.
what's up?
For anybody who gets spurious mailer-daemon bounce mail from me from ancient mail you sent anytime in the last year or two, please accept my apologies. There is something rotten in Denmark, and I’m working at rooting out the evil but am not there yet.
@MattЭллен I broke the bot and I don't know how to put her back the way she was so I can start over.
@KitFox ok. so you can rollback to the last commit
Can I go farther back than that?
15:42
yes
you can go back as far as you like
How do I do it?
git reset --soft and then the id of the commit (first 7 characters of the hash is generally enough)
OK. Let me see.
Of the commit I want to rollback to, right?
@MattЭллен Are you wise in the ways of git, sir? I wish I were.
@tchrist I know a little and google the rest :D
15:47
Damn. I don't know how to do that on GitHub.
Or to find the number locally.
@KitFox do the rollback on github?
I don't know how. I'm feeling a little wail-y.
I should not have tried to do something I haven't even looked at in months when I knew I didn't have time to do it properly.
sorry, no that's not what I meant
self-flagellates
@KitFox it's all fine!
15:49
@MattЭллен I was using gitbash, but then the number from github, but that's not right.
@KitFox if you use git log that will tell you the hashes
Oh. Well then I guess it doesn't like that I didn't type in the whole hash.
And now it won't let me out of the list.
kicks
ctrl+c ?
q ?
15:52
I need that autocomment script. These are too long to type every time. I do keep a file with a few of the more common ones in it for murine transfers, but still.
Welcome to our site, Joy. I should alert you that merely asking whether something is correct is off-topic proofreading here. Please include in your research and theories. Please indicate what you think might be a problem, and please cite what sources you have consulted previously that left you unclear on the matter. Otherwise we cannot really help you. The best questions here help people other than yourself, so that means they should be phrased as a more general concern, not simply a one-shot matter unique to your personal circumstances. — tchrist 4 mins ago
Are you in vi(m)?
Yes, ZZ is a way out.
I think gitbash comes with vim
So is <ESC>:wq<RETURN>
15:54
whichever way around makes most sense
So can I copy paste then?
Well, if you are in input mode, ZZ is faster, because doubled-keystrokes always are. Otherwise if you are in edit mode, :wq isn’t too bad.
I forget whether :x works.
@KitFox you should be able to. vim is not my forte
@MattЭллен Editors don’t die on ^C, or else Bad Things Might Happen. They catch it.
Ask me.
I’ve used and taught it for 30 years. Tell me what you need to do.
ohffs
15:56
uhoh
It's a 3 not an e.
Fixed it.
So do I need to re-commit?
your stuff should be at the state of that commit now
have a look
I wish I had a better editor.
Um, no.
15:58
@KitFox s/had/were/ :)
That too.
Also that I were not so acutely feeling that I should not be doing this.
Manual restoration of messed-up situations always feels ugly.
I should know: I’m doing very ugly things with my mail right now.

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