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@Mitch What is happening to me?
@SrJoven It may be time for flags.
I dunno.
He even argues with Andrew. I don’t think he will take kindly to being told to stop his vociferous and obnoxious trolling.
I believe he qualifies for all four nouns in Proverbs 26:11: dog, vomit, fool, folly.
00:16
@tchrist That's from the Bible? That needs a parental guidance warning. ponders whether to read Bible
stops pondering. mind wanders aimlessly
00:35
@JasperLoy ?? Are you having trouble sleeping, or are you staying up for a reason?
@Mitch I am not trying to stay up, neither am I trying to sleep.
01:15
@Andrew Thank you.
Hello.
I woke up at 2AM.
I have not slept for 25 hours.
That is inadvisable.
But of course it happens now and then...
01:40
In Jasper’s case, it is perilous in the extreme.
01:54
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Happy-happy, joy-joy?
@tchrist How so?
@Cerberus Sleep deprivation is one of the absolutely worst possible things for someone suffering from an affective mood disorder.
True...
But...
I rather thought he was already suffering from sleep issues.
One causes the other and vice versa.
Many sufferers of affective mood disorders have sleep issues: they sleep too much when they’re depressed, and too little when hypomanic — or worse.
But it is not limited to BP spectrum. Sleep deprivation is very hard on mental health.
In anybody.
I won’t drive if I’ve not slept.
And I try very very hard not to interact with others, lest I screw up.
All my not-sleepings are from reading all night or hacking all night.
At least, now in my dotage.
In college I never slept.
Every week had at least one double-all-nighter.
And usually several singles.
Fortunately, I had no driver’s licence at the time.
02:09
I got 2 hours of sleep last night.
So I went to bed at 7:30 the night after.
user116848
I have disturbed sleep patterns too
Yay!
Most people in this room do...
Probably @JohanLarsson too hehe.
I got going on 5 hours, and I swear I didn’t become fully conscious till it would have been 8 hours. I should have just lain there.
user116848
@Cerberus Yea, it seems like it.
user116848
It is like a club here :-)
02:11
Fun!
user116848
Yep!
@tchrist Now you know what night owls feel like on most days!
Usually clubs where people don’t sleep are too loud for my sanity.
user116848
hah :)
Bring earplugs.
02:12
Been there, done that.
Perhaps we should all be on sleeping pills.
Or smart pills.
That’s what I call earplugs.
They allow me to think when I would not normally be able to do so. They make me smarter.
They also allow me to sleep when I would not normally be able to do so, and I am always smarter after ample rest. Again, smart pills.
Although just putting one in the right ear is good enough, since the 20% or whatever function remaining in the left ear doesn’t count for much.
I’ll do that in an office environment sometimes.
That way if someone comes up to you and starts talking, you realize it.
But you don’t hear them normally.
Recently I have been able to sing low low C.
I sure hope you mean C₃ not C₂. Middle C is of course C₄.
Are you talking isotopes?
02:20
I can’t even always get out C₃, and even when I do, it doesn’t sound so great.
@tchrist I could never get used to earplugs.
@tchrist I think I mean C2...
@Cerberus No.
I am a bass, not a tenor.
Then what does the number mean?
02:23
C1 is the 1st C on the keyboard.
C2 is the 2nd C, C3 the third, C4 the fourth.
C4 is middle C.
It’s where my voice starts to sound its best.
That’s why it's the middle note in the tenor clef.
My max range is from low low C to F, so about 2.5 octaves.
Although of course, the tenor voice is normally written with ‭ ‭ 𝄠 now.
So using a G clef down an octave instead of a C clef.
Kill this:
Well, delete it.
I see.
Of all the clefs, the C clef looks the most clavicular.
The G clef looks like somebody couldn’t decide between a & and an @.
But it has a lovely flourish.
The F clef is boring looking.
02:38
If I were a tenor and if I learnt music, I might be a singer. But neither of those 2 hold.
Yes, the first two generally lead to the third.
Baritones outnumber tenors by something like 8 to 1.
But that’s ok: they almost balance in that ratio. :)
But I really love singing. But I think I won't pursue it this life.
Silly.
Sing.
Sing a song.
Sing out loud.
Sing out strong.
Don’t worry if it’s not good enough for anyone else to hear. Just sing. Sing a song.
And the world shall be better for this.
At least, your world will be.
If they let you live.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
If you cannot join a choir, go to a karaoke bar.
The latter might require some pre-medication.
I actually held 2 personal concerts before, one at 15 and one at 17, lol.
I had a very talented pianist to accompany me.
It was just a school event.
“Personal concerts”?
02:48
I mean, the whole concert was just me singing and him playing. Wrong word choice.
My goodness.
It isn't very good now that I look at it, but for that age I think it is OK.
Folksongs? Arias? Broadway? Popsongs?
I did something I was not really supposed to. I took about 20 tenor arias, transposed them and sung them in my range.
Tsk.
You wanted the drama.
02:50
I like drama.
The first concert was about 3 hours, and the second one 2.
He played lots of pieces on his own too.
Were you dating him?
No, I am straight, even though I think Steven Strait is hot, lol.
You sure hide it well.
03:12
No comment.
@tchrist Amazingly, the crack-smoking former mayor was re-elected to his old council ward. But his brother was NOT elected mayor, though he did get 35% of the vote.
@mah Boo!
04:21
@Mitch If you’re bored and feel like you have nothing better to do, I might suggest a place for a delete vote — and also a fine place for an upvote.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 See Marion Barry.
Marion Shepilov Barry, Jr. (born March 6, 1936) is an American politician who served as the second elected Mayor of the District of Columbia from 1979 to 1991, and again as the fourth Mayor from 1995 to 1999. He has been a member of the Council of the District of Columbia, representing Washington, D.C.'s Ward 8, since 2005. A Democrat, Barry previously served two other tenures on the DC Council, as an at-large member from 1975 to 1979 and as Ward 8 representative from 1993 to 1995. In the 1960s, he was involved in the African-American Civil Rights Movement, serving as the first chairman of the...
> His celebrity transformed into international notoriety in January 1990, when Barry was videotaped smoking crack cocaine and arrested by FBI officials on drug charges. The arrest and subsequent trial precluded Barry seeking re-election, and Barry served six months in a federal prison. After his release, however, he was elected to the DC city council in 1992 and ultimately returned to the mayoralty in 1994, serving from 1995 to 1999.
Second verse, same as the first.
 
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06:53
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Phew, that is more than the previous polls, isn't it, those 35 per cent?
Will Rob be relatively harmless in that position?
Is the new mayor the centre-right candidate?
 
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hi
 
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12:00
Voting patterns of two users. Each has 3000+ votes, and both have pretty much the same upvote/downvote rate. Yet the vote distribution couldn't be more different. Fascinating.
One of them must be Kris.
Math is really a crazy thing. This is totally counterintuitive at first.
The explanation, of course, is that this is just the top 140 targets for each user.
So the left one hides all their downvotes in the long tail. Say, by downvoting random spammers and the like.
Conversely, for the one to the right it is the upvotes that form the long tail. Just a couple upvotes per user should be enough!
I can't live here anymore. People are extremely stupid and evil. I can't breathe anymore.
> And, finally, most importantly, the keyboard in the F4 supports emoji!!!!!!!
What, only seven exclamation points? And not a single smiley?
So, this is "heavy upvotes to a few select users and a downvote for absolutely everyone else" vs. "heavy downvotes to a few select users and an upvote for absolutely everyone else", and yet when you look at the sums of all votes, they are all but identical.
12:10
@Robusto their keyboard clearly doesn't support emoji
@Robusto the exclamation points are the smiley. Hair standing up.
And I unlearned how to edit.
I see strange lines across my browser now and then. Welcome to Linux!
@RegDwigнt That was an interesting edit. "g" became "And I unlearned how to edit."
@Robusto QDE.
@MattЭллен Thanks for closing my meta question lol.
12:11
Quick! Don't Edit
No dont
@JasperLoy No worries!
@MattЭллен I thought Quick got replaced by Excel?
Or was it Norton?
Do you have Prince Albert in the can?
not around here.
12:13
@Robusto the g belonged to the line above it. Once I moved it, I had no use for the line I moved it from, so I had to write some other shit there. So write some shit I did.
So work increases to fill the expanded room?
But I am happy you find my edits interesting. I strive to become the most interesting editor in the world.
Why is he wearing a mask?
12:14
@Robusto the first law of thermodynamics.
Or is he a she? In any case, that is a flu mask.
More like hermaphrodynamics.
How is a hermaphrod different from a hot rod?
[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: +91-9950211818 Bla ck Magic Mantra For Money on english.stackexchange.com
BTW, what is everyone doing to fight the scourge of Ebola? Me, I'm no longer handling bodily fluids of Ebola patients.
12:15
One os hot and the other is not hot.
@Robusto I give my bodily fluids away to charity, so whatever's in there is gone for good.
I just flush mine, as usual.
Same difference. They all wash up in Sierra Leone.
Look up Gulf Stream.
Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation is a American wholly owned subsidiary of General Dynamics. Gulfstream designs, develops, manufactures, markets, and services business-jet aircraft. Gulfstream has produced more than 2,000 aircraft since 1958. Gulfstream's range consists of the G150, G280, G350, G450, G500, G550, G600 and G650. == History == === Origins === The company that evolved into Gulfstream Aerospace Corp. started in the late 1950s when Grumman Aircraft Engineering Co., known for military aircraft production, developed a business aircraft at its facilities in Bethpage, N.Y., called...
Immediate disqualification for taking the instructions literally.
I guess you don't know how to play this game, huh?
Further disqualifications for entering chat messages and then redacting them with alarming regularity.
@Robusto see, they are sweeping it under the rug already. "Range consists of the G150, G280..." but no mention of the "G186536".
12:21
I think you're confusing that with the GI tract. (Not to be confused with the GI Bill).
I only know GI Joe. Or do you put him on bills now?
Good old GI Bill
We put him on Benjamins. Only you can't see him.
Benjamin the Elephant (original German name: Benjamin Blümchen; "Benjamin Blossom") is an animated children's television show produced by Kiddinx Studios in Berlin. The show is based on audio stories by Elfie Donnelly. On the show, the eponymous main character resides at the Newtown Zoo, with friends Otto and Stella. The adventures Benjamin gets involved in often require slipping into various roles, learning new jobs, or discovering new and distant places. == Characters == Benjamin - an elephant, is big and strong, cuddly and good-natured. He loves lazing around. But when something is going on...
My friend's wife is giving birth now.
@JasperLoy is she in a gulfstream?
Ha, the Germans are now calling elephants "little flowers" . . .
@RegDwigнt Even German elephants look more beautiful than those here. I must be reborn in Germany.
No, not now. I think this is like thirty years old.
It is also retarded.
And gay.
12:25
Does Benjamin the Elephant fly in a gulfstream?
I'd rather listen to Avril Lavigne in Guantánamo.
What was her name before she changed it? April?
I just got a downvote. Lo and behold, Kris just logged in 2 min ago.
hold me closer tiny dancer
12:26
I mean, this is the kind of shit we're talking about.
Ghey.
And it's thousands upon thousands of hours of this.
No exaggerations. Really thousands.
elephants squashing piglets.
All the pictures seem to be slowing down this chat.
VHS, music cassettes, blahblah.
12:27
What do the Germans call a combine (the farm implement shown in the back left of that picture)?
Funny you'd call it a combine.
I'd call it a combine harvester.
Combine is the Russian word for it.
I don't call it that. American farmers call it that.
Ein Mähdrescher ist eine landwirtschaftliche Erntemaschine zur Ernte von Körnerfrüchten wie insbesondere Getreide, aber auch Raps, Sonnenblumen, Ackerbohnen, Grassamen oder Ähnlichem. Wie die zusammengesetzte Bezeichnung (vgl. auch im Englischen: combine harvester) andeutet, kann der Mähdrescher mehrere Verfahrensschritte in einem Arbeitsgang erledigen, insbesondere die Mahd und den Drusch der Körnerfrüchte. == Beschreibung der Baugruppen == === Schneidwerk bzw. Erntevorsatz === Vorne am Mähdrescher ist das Schneidwerk oder ein Erntevorsatz angebaut. Diese nehmen das Erntegut vom Feld a...
12:28
The Wurzels call it a Combine Harvester
Kind of like a Frandrescher?
A mow-thrasher.
@Robusto probably the same root, actually.
I didn't realize drescher and thresher were rooted together, but I guess it makes sense.
жаткаЗерноубо́рочный комба́йн — сложная зерноуборочная машина (жатка-молотилка), выполняющая последовательно непрерывным потоком и одновременно: срезание хлеба (то есть растения), подачу его к молотильному аппарату, обмолот зерна из колосьев, отделение его от вороха и прочих примесей, транспортировку чистого зерна в бункер и механическую выгрузку из него. Одна из важнейших сельскохозяйственных машин, способная выполнять сразу несколько различных операций. Например, зерноуборочный комбайн срезает колосья, выбивает из колосков зёрна и очищает зёрна струёй воздуха. Сложная машина выполняет функции…
That doesn't say combiner.
It says combine.
12:29
Ah, Wikipedia. Who the fuck put a "Зерноуборочный" there.
That is literally the first, and also the last, time in my life or yours that you've come across it.
They might as well have titled it Avril Lavigne комбайн.
@Robusto I mistope.
What does zernoborochny mean?
I had also fuxed the typo before posting the link. Get with the programme.
Hey, who reads your shit? Also, who reads it twice?
@Robusto Zerno = grain. Ubirat = clean up, get away with.
So grain-removing combine. Seriously nobody talks like that.
It's just combine.
Do they also have fingers-on-buttons-pressing keyboards?
12:32
The Klaas stuff is probably the same everywhere.
But I suppose you can still find good old analog stuff in a kolkhoz somewhere. Or in a kolkhoz everywhere, for that matter.
That is not kolkhoz. That is Kolvin and Hoz.
Oct 23 at 14:27, by RegDwigнt
But I've killed enough time for today. Let me do something else. Lators.
Klators.
12:46
To avoid giving Kris more authority by giving him more rep, I shall not upvote any more of his posts.
@Cerberus It is consistent with previous polls. But it means that more than 1/3 of Torontonians want an ignorant, racist, lying bully as mayor (whose best and only idea while in office was to build a monorail - like in the Simpsons episode), rather than people with a track record of civility and actually getting stuff done.
I thought he was a drug addict too?
No, that's his brother.
The drug addict dropped out of the mayoral race on account of he has cancer. Instead, he ran for and won his old council seat.
12:52
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Q: Should I use plural possessive in this instance?

mbrownnycI am attempting to write a personal statement at the beginning of a resume and am having an predicament as to how to write the following: I am a super hero with seven years' experience in blowing out fires with my exhalation... I assume that, since the experience doesn't belong to the seven...

Is there anything wrong with this question and answer? Why the downvote?
Have you guys seen Google+'s "halloweenify" thing? It's neat
what will they think of next :D
Or you can do a "fun" effect instead of "spooky"
nice
For smaller values of "fun".
12:59
Wow, very nice pics.
Anything wrong with this answer? 2 downvotes?
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A: Should I use plural possessive in this instance?

Jasper LoyTo avoid using the apostrophe, you can write I am a super hero with seven years of experience in blowing out fires with my exhalation. However using the apostrophe and writing I am a super hero with seven years' experience in blowing out fires with my exhalation is fine, because i...

I don't see a problem
Exactly. Kris must be one of the downvoters, and Thursagen the other. Both accounts belong to the same XXX.
I'm fairly sure that thursagen isn't Kris
also, Thursagen hasn't been around since Feb
Different countries? LOL. Mods and their spying tools. Maybe he has an international organisation of downvoters who downvote correct answers online.
@MattЭллен Feb 2012
13:08
yes, that even
@MattЭллен 2012 is even, and Feb is month 2 and 2 is even.
@MattЭллен Maybe someone is helping me to achieve a multiple of 5 for my rep.
lol, maybe.
@JasperLoy That depends on whether your arrays are 1-based or 0-based.
Type new Date().getMonth() into your console and it will give you 9 (this month only).
13:27
12 questions with over 200,000 views (each).
I wonder ... are search engines counted in this?
@IceBoy I think we should language a verb.
@MattЭллен That question is not even asking about singular versus plural possessive. It is asking about the use of the possessive for non-literal possession, something the downvoters probably missed because they were too hasty.
possibly so
13:42
I think I should delete my account, lol. Rage quit, lol.
@SrJoven Not if they can help it.
@SrJoven I’m always surprised at the scarlet letters of their view count when they show up on the front page.
14:02
"I am a super hero with seven years' experience in blowing out fires with my exhalation..."
Wait, doesn't all that extra oxygen encourage fire?
@Mitch no
due to the speed at which it is travelling
Or is the exhalation more an eructation?
@JasperLoy I'm gong to rage join. "You're all wrong! Here is the right answer!"
Wait.. that's what Joe Blow does!
@Mitch The other answer, which does not answer the question as intended, has more upvotes than mine. I am very disappointed in the internet.
see, pressure is inversly proportional to the velocity of the fluid, so a fast moving stream of air will suck the air along with it, removing oxygen. also only 23% of the oxygen breathed in is breathed out
@JasperLoy The Internet is dumb.
14:05
@Mitch possibly
@Mitch Just like the people here, lol.
@MattЭллен You fail to notice that the concentrated stream of high velocity gas is also contributing a higher concentration of oxygen, for a net increase in oxygen concentration.
@Mitch how? since there is less oxgen
@JasperLoy I thought "years'" was actually a green grocer's apostrophe. I think I must be wrong, but I don't feel wrong.
:18361906 that's because you don't actually see them.
the blind leading the blind
14:14
@Mitch Every other time you thought you were right but were actually wrong, you didn’t feel wrong, so whether one should happen to not feel wrong about something is no indicator than one is actually right about it after all.
How does blind man's bluff work? Don't we lose a lot of kids that way?
@tchrist What if that's wrong?
!!rimshot
@Mitch only while your eyes are closed
opens eyes
Holy crap!
shuts eyes quickly
it's better that way
14:41
The OED speaks of hackneyed asses, but does not seem to connect these with chapped ones.
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A: Word for an animal that has been ridden too much?

tchristYou could use hackneyed, pronounced /ˈhæknɪd/. Here are two senses for it: Used so frequently and indiscriminately as to have lost its freshness and interest; made trite and commonplace; stale. Habituated by much practice, experienced; sometimes with the ulterior idea of disgust or wear...

14:59
desuetudinal donkeys.
So does 'hack' (expedient but potentially unsafe coding) come from 'hackneyed'?
15:22
this swr really annoys me
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Q: Word for an Original Idea

Alex WIs there a good word for an idea that someone came up with on their own? I'm talking about an original idea. The reason I want such a word is for my notes so that I can annotate, with as few words as possible, whether I reached an idea on my own or whether I used someone else's. I prefer a form...

it's just so "I have an answer, but I don't want to use it because I don't feel like it."
15:47
@MattЭллен It's because you don't have an original idea, that's why.
@Mitch I've had fifty original ideas. they were all great
I have a word for that but i"m not going to tell you. Because it's an original idea. I don't want you stealing it. — Mitch 9 secs ago
16:29
We really have to admire English for giving us the word clusterfuck. It is so very useful for describing so many aspects of human endeavor.
16:44
@Mitch No. A hackney was a type of horse used for coaches or cabs, and the cabs themselves became called by that name (an example of synecdoche). The cab was later called a hack, and sometimes still is.
The old meaning is plenty good enough.
I prefer to say pretty but it seems the Americans love using plenty there.
You are mistaken.
Different meaning? I don't know.
16:46
Nobody says "pretty good enough."
Oh yeah, without the enough.
So you didn't read that far?
You'll go six words, but not seven?
I was too hasty in typing.
I also never say a couple bananas. I always say a couple of bananas.
I knew someone who would say that something was "pretty ok"
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That sounds very common to me.
16:49
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 But not "pretty ok enough" I'd venture to guess.
I have not heard from Maria for a week, I am very sad.
Perhaps she doesn't want to talk to me anymore.
@JasperLoy It sounds weird to me. "ok" is positive with a neutral sense, like "acceptable" or "enough". "pretty" is an intensifier like "very", so "very neutrally good" is odd.
Comma splice.
@Robusto No, not that I heard, but it wouldn't have surprised me.
@Robusto Yes, I use lots of them in chat.
16:51
Take them back to your land.
Perhaps I should start using proper punctuation in chat.
I need to keep refreshing outlook.com, but I don't need to do that for gmail.com.
Also, the conversation view in gmail is much better than in outlook.
@Robusto I had mine removed. With pliers.
yahoo.com doesn't even have a conversation view, the last I checked.
@JasperLoy 'plenty' ? that really doesn't mean the same thing as 'pretty'.
@Mitch OK.
17:07
@MattЭллен I had an idea once. The shrink wrap and box were long gone, the battery was dead, and frankly had been left outside for two winters. And then it got caught in the lawn mower so I threw it away. But I'l always remember that...um... whatever it was.
My answer got 14 upvotes and 4 downvotes. I am very happy, lol.
So it's a lot of things for my meaning, it could come from hack- to cut roughly or hack the common drudge (from the old horse)
That doesn't contradict what I said, though I telescoped the progression a bit.
@JasperLoy That's a little strange...a highvoted question but also with non-trivial downvotes.
Fuck. It's supposed to snow on Sunday. That's no fucking fair.
17:20
@Robusto But there's little semantic connection between a hatchet job/hack writer and common drudge.
I bet they're all connected to the drudge meaning.
@Robusto I think it's allowed. since it'll be November. If it were Friday, it would totally be against the rules.
And if I have a hunch about language, we can take it as extremely likely to be true.
@Mitch How am I supposed to ride my bike in the snow?
@Robusto etymonline separates them: 'hack' for roughly chopping wood and hack for hackney (for the horse) for Hackney the place name in England.
@Robusto tire chains. also with great difficulty.
@Mitch Shows you what good etymonline is, if it disagrees with my hunches.
@MattЭллен: One could use knackered to modify a noun, as in a knackered donkey, right?
17:25
There is only rain here, no snow.
@Robusto I used to bike in the snow.
But I don't like that.
I had a paper route, and I rode my bike all year round.
@Robusto I wwouldn't call it a donkey at that point. Just donkey pieces
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 hills?
Donkey pieces are probably still fungible.
17:27
@Mitch Yes, but not huge hills.
I guess, thinking back, the hills weren't a big factor. Mostly it was flat. There were some hills though.
fungible donkey pieces. that is not a good punk band name.
Yeah, hard to get up or down hills in snow
17:43
I used the term knackered. There's a difference.
@Robusto Would that be understood by AmE speakers?
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A: Word for an animal that has been ridden too much?

RobustoIf you don't mind using a term usually confined to British English, try knackered. From TheFreeDictionaryOnline.com: knackered adj 1. exhausted; tired out 2. worn out; no longer working, esp after long or hard use

Read the first sentence of my answer.
The top-tier Americans will understand it. I don't give a shit about the rest, frankly.
Also, it's a great word that should be in every American's lexicon. So there.
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