English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room - 2013-08-19 (page 2 of 2)

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4:00 PM

I forgot to add baking powder. I forgot, folks.

How's things, Matt?

Matt Эллен

I'm OK :) certainly nothing so bad as forgetting baking powder

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax It wasn't a cake. It was a cookie.

@MattЭллен The cookies are coming along nicely, oddly enough.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hm?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax The thing with no bp. just redefine your goals so that the bp isn't necessary

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh! But what if they are supposed to be cookies?

"Mm, looking forward to chocolate chip flatbread!"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:06 PM

you got it

chocolate communion wafers

They've poofed up a bit though, so…

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hm I wonder if that's a thing

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax all is not lost!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It would certainly improve an otherwise bland experience…

Though the recipe says 10 minutes in the oven, and it's getting close to 20.

shrugs

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> BOSTON (CAP) - Officials for the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston have announced plans to switch a number of area parishes from the centuries-old bland wheat flour-based communion wafers to a more contemporary wafer containing polyunsaturated fats and one of a handful of flavoring agents.

> "Wow, Jesus never tasted so good," said 47-year-old Darren St. Clair, one of a dozen to participate in a focus group that helped to select the initial flavor offerings.

4:08 PM

> contemporary wafer

giggles

First tray is out of the oven, and they look great.

Except for one.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

better eat that one.

Consume the evidence.

Mmm, I need some chocolate.

It looks a mite hot yet.

digs for change

I just came over from the cooking chat.... and what do I find here? You all talk about food? :-)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:15 PM

Let me guess. Too much grammar chat over there?

Did a three-headed dog send you?

Actually, I am looking for a three headed dog.

We haven't seen him in a week.

Some of us are a bit worried.

We haven't either.

@Cerberus, are you there?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

last chatted 7d ago. that's unusual for him.

More than 7 hours is unusual for him.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:18 PM

number one chatter on SE

Didn't he go up to camp?

Really? 7 days?

Maybe he did, but I don't recall him mentioning it over on SA.

Sometimes he's not in here, but usually he's somewhere.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

what?! @RegDwighт is not #2 anymore!

How do you measure chat?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:19 PM

@KitFox 7d is for the whole SE chat

@SAJ14SAJ chat.stackexchange.com/users

Have you emailed him?

He's been here, just not been talking.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

all that proves is that his computer is on

@KitFox I don't know his email. This color scheme is much better than ours.

Says he last visited the main site an hour ago.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

and given that he shuts off his computer when he's not using it......

4:21 PM

I suspect his phone is keeping him connected.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@SAJ14SAJ probably not. My phone is the same as his and it doesn't keep me in chat.

Maybe he had a satori experience, and has given up chatting.

Perhaps he can no longer type with his paws.

I always expected he did it with his three noses.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox his last post/comment was aug 11 from what I can see

4:23 PM

Gotta run. Work in 30min. Bye!

BTW, just so you know, I determined through science and magic that the three heads from left to right (as you face him) are Larry, Moe, and Curly.

Moe tends to be the surly one.

Feel free to try some cookies, they're on the kitchen counter.

I like them.

Anyways.

sneaks cookie off counter while noone is looking

I sent him an email.

I don't know if he checks that address, but he's married to his phone, so hopefully it will ping him automagically.

Yeah, well....

I can see you all talk about English about as often as we talk about food and cooking.

Limerick Machine: Apparently he would kick her out of bed.

posted on August 19, 2013 by sgdi

"Speaking and talking," he said Are not things I want in the bed And these biscuit crumbs Will make me become Irritated and blotchy and red

4:27 PM

I don't have any idea what you mean. looks innocent

I will do an on topic rant, just because... when did "being a thing" become a thing? What sort of horrible linguistic evolution led to this?

fails to understand

That is okay, the young people talk funny these days.

user87637

What is being a thing?

It is a phrase or construct that emerged, as far as I can tell, in the last two or three years. It seems to mean "exists" or "is a cultural meme" or "is a cultural phenomenon."

user87637

4:31 PM

Oh I see you are new in this chat.

Today is the first time. I don't usually hang out in ELU because you all are way to technical for me, and I say that as a native speaker of English and retired LING major :-)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@SAJ14SAJ I have no evidence for this. But I suspect something was "not a thing" long before it could be said to "be a thing"

"That's not a thing" == "that isn't real"

I don't recall ever hearing it in the "not a thing" version.

At least until the other emerged, and then only in contrast. Such as "Why on earth would Lady Gaga even be a thing?"

Well, sort of. Never mind. My example took over with a mind of its own.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

There is no chance I am clicking on an old Ross and Rachael video. :-)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:40 PM

It's just ross saying "That's not a thing!"

Amy: Since today... I am going to be a baby stylist.

Rachel: (looks at Ross and then at Amy again in disbelief) What?

Ross: That's not a thing!

Amy: Well, it should be. I'm gonna help babies learn how to accessorize, what colors to wear, what clothes are slimming...

For a tv show as popular as it was, it has had almost no impact later. No legacy.

At least that I can tell.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

my point is that that show aired in 2003 and Ross is saying "that's not a thing".

I got that... not sure it had emerged in the popular culture in any way though.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Wait. are you claiming that things that originated in Friends had no impact on culture at large? Here in my family we still re-use catch phrases and funny lines. And I barely watched the show.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you funny Canadians surely don't know how to sort.

Eh?

4:48 PM

He just doesn't recognize the impact.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I meant more on later TV comedies. What Friends catch phrases have persisted for you?

Anyway just let me quickly post a couple thousand messages. Will only be a minute.

1

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@SAJ14SAJ hm. hard to say off-hand.

2

3

4510

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт you can retry this after 3 seconds retry

4:51 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you can reword this after 3 readings reword

What is this grammar?

5187

I forgot the 26

26

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт It's meant to be like the message the chat room gives you after you post too quickly

Yes. So I don't post quickly. I post meticulously.

27

Did you notice how slowly I typed the 27?

Here, look again:

27

How slow can you go?

Now I have the 27 twice. So I'll skip the 28.

I can name that tune in three notes.

I can name any tune in just one note.

By the way, at first I thought your gravatar was a shark, too.

She is my cat.

4:54 PM

The right ear was the nose, the left ear was the dorsal fin, the white was the teeth and the blue was the sea.

5189

The blue is a blanket she was sleeping on :-)

Yeah, which for sharks is the sea.

QED

I see.

I should rotate my kitty pictures, but that would be work.

user image

Google Image Search result for "rotating kitty gif"

Oh, I did that when I was young! I needed the money!

4:57 PM

So you're saying you're rich now.

user image

Another view of the shark.

Oh, purry.

Sharks don't always climb stairs, but when they do they look grimly.

user image

Predatory shark, and my late black shark who passed about six months ago.

Matt Эллен

@SAJ14SAJ I picked up Chandler Bing mannerisms

@MattЭллен That could be scary.

Matt Эллен

5:02 PM

y' think?

Then again, I am struggling to remember any of them, and I rewatched a couple of seasons on DVD just a few weeks ago.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен could I BE wearing any more clothes?

except that was Joey

Matt Эллен

:D

Now, Joeyisms are easy to remember. That character was over the top. I think it ruined the actor's career forever after.

Matt Эллен

And everyone uses commando to mean without underwear

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:04 PM

@MattЭллен yes. But that predates Friends.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Does it?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@SAJ14SAJ pretty sure

The origins of the phrase "go commando" are uncertain, with some speculating that it may refer to being "out in the open" or "ready for action". Slate magazine's Daniel Engber dates the modern usage to college campuses circa 1974, where it was perhaps associated with soldiers in the Vietnam War, who were reputed to go without underwear to "increase ventilation and reduce moisture."[4]
The earliest known use of the term in print occurred on January 22, 1985, when Jim Spencer wrote in the Chicago Tribune, "Furthermore, colored briefs are 'sleazy' and going without underwear ('going commando',…

> A 1996 episode of the television sitcom Friends, "The One Where No One's Ready", has been credited with introducing the term into the popular vernacular.

so there we go. it does and doesn't, according to wikipedia, which is never ever wrong.

All hail Wikipedia, inventor of all things.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Of course Wiki the All Knowing is never wrong.

Nor is it incomplete; if you want to start a new civilization, it would be your manual.

5:21 PM

@JSB

Matt Эллен

bbl

5:32 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I would argue that the fact that there are multiple conflicting answers which attempt to address this issue in detail suggest that it is ambiguous, too broad, or not constructive.

I don't even know which question we're talking about.

I'm just arguing for fun.

Oh yeah, and I'm right. That's why it is fun.

I can't figure out why my code is breaking.

stops gnawing on wires, backs away slowly

Damn it.

is really pissed

> Invalid attempt to call FieldCount when reader is closed.

WTH does this mean?

This code works everywhere else. Why not here?

shakes code

5:55 PM

I don't know enough to help :(

Neither do I. Thanks though.

Does FieldCount rely on the reader being open?

I'm having trouble thinking clearly. I guess I will just delete stuff until it works.

That is the correct approach.

As a writer you should know.

@RegDwighт I didn't think so. Google-fu is failing me too.

5:58 PM

I'm not allowed to touch database code. Only all the frontend stuff. Oh crud, I need to turn off the sprinkler.

Was just a shot in the oven before I log off for foodstuffs.

I'm so tired and scatterbrained today.

logs off for foodstuffs

Mmm foodstuffs.

wants foodstuffs

also, aedia

6:00 PM

giggles

Hey! I didn't tell you my good news!

And if I give you this meaningful look, I think you will understand.

Oh?

@KitFox I'm trying. I don't think the brain rays are working. Are you sure you're looking this way?

6:18 PM

OK, that thing I was having trouble with.

@KitFox Congratulations on your thing, whatever it is.

no outsiders are listening, its okay...

@SAJ14SAJ Well, that would be you, actually.

@MετάEd Thank you.

@KitFox O! I can't believe how long that took me to remember. Yay!

grins

6:27 PM

If it was that thing from months ago ... awesome.

I imagine it's still a long road, but hey, I will take one step forward.

@KitFox Now I am going to cry.

Son of a bitch, I don't know how I ever would have found that without combing through every tiny piece of code.

@SAJ14SAJ I feel for you.

It's nothing personal. You can hang here until I know you well enough to overshare.

6:49 PM

@KitFox I was just being silly. Plus, if I really cared, I could read the transcripts back to the dawn of time.... (I don't, btw)

Well, see if I tell you intimate and embarrassing details of my life completely unsolicited and in a socially awkward fashion.

If you're going to be that way about it.

All sensible and normal and stuff.

Makes me suspect that you might be an actual person.

My son just hung up on me.

So that's what it feels like.

@KitFox Ouch

He was mad because he wanted his Super Hero Squad bathing suit, which is in my car.

How old is this child?

Five.

6:59 PM

Ah, I think that is normal then.

I'm off. Bye!

@KitFox Was it something I said?

@RegDwighт Yes, it's weird how that cat looks like a shark if you squint at it. I had the same thing, but rotated about 90 degrees from yours. For me, the nose was the nose, and the ear at the side was part of the smile. I think you mixed up left and right, by the way.

@RegDwighт No, it would be the opposite of thinking that all black people look the same. It would be thinking that all black looks are the same person.

7:16 PM

user image

Full size shark before cropping.

But your avatar looks cartoony. Like you've applied some posterising effect or something.

No, just the cropping and whatever the SE/gravitar software do.

Maybe some light balance.

Weird, anyway. It seriously looks like a drawing, not a photo.

Shaaark!

@DavidWallace I can't see it as a shark anymore now that I've seen the cat. I'm trying really hard to see the forward-smiling shark (I initially saw it the way Reg described) but it keeps going back to cat like a stubborn magiceye picture.

Cats are stubborn that way. The original OED defines stubborn as "like unto a cat".

7:31 PM

@aediaλ Yeah, I'm starting to lose it myself. And the Reg version has never stayed very long for me. The forward facing one is similar to the cartoon shark in Finding Nemo.

And, hello, Aedia, it's nice to see you.

@SAJ14SAJ Are you sure about that? I just looked up stubborn in a very old copy of the OED. The word dogged appears, but nothing about cats.

@DavidWallace It was a joke.

Haha, I left my sense of humour at home today. My apologies.

So, what brings you to this room, cat? Usually I see you elsewhere.

@DavidWallace I was looking for our three-headed friend who is MIA.

He doesn't appear to have posted anything anywhere for over a week.

@DavidWallace I know, that is very, very unusual. And I am not a cat.

7:41 PM

@DavidWallace Nice to see you too!

Maybe he's found himself a romantic interest.

user87637

So many creatures in this chat: fox, unicorn, orc, cat, cerberus, etc.

7:55 PM

@DavidWallace Did you know that gullible is not in the dictionary?

8:18 PM

Did you know that nullable is not in database?

@MετάEd checks dictionary

still looking

hmmm... wonders if misspelling

Nope You're right, not in my dictionary. There's no word for ... well that thing in my language.

1 hour later…

9:49 PM

@KitFox Feels like shark week?

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