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@JasperLoy You dan’t recognize it, eh?

user19161

@tchrist Well, if it is a song, I don't know it.

Robusto

He'D ante up if he could.

@JasperLoy It's divine. And a comedy.

Prolly illegal in singy poor.

Selva oscura translates to other tongues sans problème, but doing so with selva selvaggia loses something important.

“Savage jungle/wood” just doesn’t cut it.

I’m rather pleased to see that we’re managing to police ourselves against our vandal even without real-time mod intervention.

user19161

3:31 PM

Wait, all the above spam is from our Nortonn?

@JasperLoy Yup.

user19161

@AndrewLeach Oh dear, well, don't worry about him.

Cuz?

Advice from SE Team:

> Try not to combat spam by putting a big spotlight on it. Hanging a giant ⇉⇉SPAM HERE!⇇⇇ billboard on those posts only draws more attention to them... and it feeds the attention-seeking behaviors this person is craving. If there is something truly harmful or offensive in the post, you can edit it out, but most of the time, it's best to simply flag them as spam and let them disappear quietly and unceremoniously.

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user19161

3:35 PM

Hmm, might be true. Yeah, maybe just ignore him.

Yah know, if they do something about him pretty soon, they’ll be handing out quite a few Marshal badges before long.

user19161

I am now wondering why the antivirus is called Norton.

user19161

Not sure if it is related to this Nortonn.

I doubt that Peter Norton is Nortonn. Unless he's suffered some sort of breakdown.

(I'm old enough to remember Norton Utilities)

The powers that be are addressing this right now

3:42 PM

I remember Norton Utils. Something for CP/M.

Thanks, @Sim.

@tchrist And DOS.

@AndrewLeach I quit that road at CP/M.

It didn’t seem like it was going in the right direction.

user19161

@tchrist By the way, it is sim and not Sim, but that is a minor point.

@JasperLoy foff

@tchrist Not in the right direction?!! We got Windows!

3:44 PM

@AndrewLeach I rest my case.

@jasper don't be an ass

@tchrist feel free to use capitalization

My fingers just do it.

It is not conscious.

Muscle memory, like unto.

And it doesn't matter to me.

Conditioned response, actually, but still.

Don't know why it needed comment

3:45 PM

Donkey business.

Robusto

Sure, what with St. Patrick's Day coming up.

St Patrick's Day is extinguished this year, except in Ireland.

It falls on a Sunday in Lent.

user19161

I thought it was over, because they turned green in the other room a few days ago.

Too many snakes.

Probably time to bury them, if they're green.

3:51 PM

Patrikius is obviously falling down on the job.

4:08 PM

Straw poll time! What would you prefer — "Hold Shift to blah" or "Shift-click to blah"?

#2

If you mean using the mouse.

The mouse, yes.

The other doesn’t make sense. Is it a shift-drag op?

It's selecting items from a list.

You can hold Shift down to select several vs. just one.

That’s Shift-select, then.

Right.

Hm, or Control-select. I forget.

4:10 PM

Well I suppose they didn't get the key wrong. (^_^)

I suppose.

It is an Apple-vs-Microsoft thing, maybe.

Funny you'd say that, cuz it was a QT guy who initially wrote "Hold Shift to blah" and a Mac guy who then corrected him it should be "Shift-click".

Actually the QT guy is a Mac fanboi as well.

I just know that there are times you have to use different modifier keys.

I no rite.

It’s like you should never say left-button instead of select.

It is wrong for left-handed mice.

4:14 PM

Well yes. That's kind of my issue with "Shift-click". Shift-what-click? I have five here.

Either they think they have only one button, or, I dunno.

Shift-click is the primary mouse button.

That’s why I said shift-select.

Why?

If it doesn't say what to click with, the primary button is the default choice.

Understand that my idea of a nice user-interface involves using pass-by-named-parameters.

So I am not the person to ask luser-inferface matters of.

4:16 PM

Teehee.

Well let's see if I can talk them into writing "use batch mode you moron" instead.

If you made it “u moron”, it would probably sell.

For 50k Euro? U bet.

Now he’s spamming my address.

Who?

Oh that guy.

I see Tim Post has been locking accounts.

Not that it helped much.

@tchrist That was what my ping was for earlier.

4:18 PM

Nope.

I missed it.

You know, I almost answered that question on meta, but then got distracted by work.

I’m outta close votes, but not spam flags. :)

Yet. :(

I wonder if he'd had found out my address or name or really anything.

Well that one didn't last long.

So, lesson learned: don't be a hero, don't answer meta questions.

4:20 PM

Ayup.

I notice he ain’t spammin’ there.

You need 5 rep to get to Meta.

Ah.

Actually now that I think about it, he'd be spamming Elton John's address now.

I only have 47 spam flags left today. This may take some time.

Yeah, 47 minutes.

4:22 PM

However, he may have had 5 from an upvote, got there and found the answer.

Wait you mean you need 5 reps to so much as view Meta?

I didn't know that.

That cannot be right.

Since anon people can view it.

I am not certain of anything anymore.

I think.

@RegDwighт Just wait till you get older: it only gets worse.

aedia λ

@RegDwighт "Press and hold SHIFT while you click blah" seems to be the Microsoft way. It's kind of unwieldy.

4:24 PM

@tchrist Yeah tell me about it. I already bought something once that turned out something else when I came home.

@RegDwighт No, I'm wrong. It's 5 to participate in Meta.

@aediaλ yeah I'm afraid we can't use more unwieldiness. The entire sentence being,

@RegDwighт That’s teach you not to buy those cute little pot-bellied piglets.

5 hours ago, by RegDwighт

Extract symbols
Click to extract and display symbol information.
(Hold SHIFT to extract also source files, variables, functions and sections.)

Oh. I see what they think they are saying there.

But they aren't.

aedia λ

4:25 PM

Ow, my brains.

@tchrist no it was, what you call it, dark chocolate? bitter chocolate? Anyway it turned out to be milk chocolate when I got home. And I am all ouf of passion for hating milk chocolate.

Dark chocolate and bitter chocolate are somewhat different. Bitter chocolate is usually the label on baker’s chocolate.

The kind you eat without adulteration is the dark chocolate. The kind you cook with, the bitter. If that.

Wait. I was wrong, then.

I told you it was selection from a list.

It isn't.

Okay, so I'll be telling them to use "Shift-click to also extract source files, variables, functions and sections."

aedia λ

Sure, that hurts my coffee-deprived brain less.

@reg I think we'll be hearing from Tim post soon

4:38 PM

We? Perhaps that other guy should be hearing from him. )))

Like, Special Weapons and Tactics hear.

Do you see what happens, Larry?

I pinged him in TL. Team is on it now.

Well yes. I pinged them earlier today and I saw Tim locking accounts. But NS keeps creating new ones.

Yuck, milk chocolate.

Why would people want to eat diluted chocolate?

California vs. Russia. "Arms race 2.0: this time it's for real". Coming soon to theatres nearby.

And let me tell you, this is a cold war Fahrenheit will not win.

I look forward to this play.

4:41 PM

@Cerberus because they are diluted people.

Apparently.

What do they have for brains? Dairy?

@Cerberus Curds and whey.

Eww.

Dairy ewes?

Although I have nothing against Kurds in general, I don't want them in my food or in my brain.

4:43 PM

If someone comes in here soon and starts asking multiple @-messages asking about grammar, I'm of a mind to kick them. I gave warning yesterday already.

What?

Jul 30 '12 at 13:26, by RegDwight АΑA

@simchona Since when is asking grammar questions not allowed?

@simchona That’s what pissed me off.

No, he pings you continuously, demanding answers. It is obnoxious.

Didn’t I see Tim Post pop in here a second ago?

@RegDwighт I'm afraid I don't get that...trains?

4:44 PM

@tchrist probably. He said he would

I mean, seconds ago.

Cheese curds

:This article is about cheese curds as a regional delicacy. For general information about the dairy product, see curd. For information about the role of curds in cheese processing, see cheese. Cheese curds in cuisine, or cooking, are the solid parts of soured milk either eaten alone or used in various regional dishes, mostly in Canada and the northeastern and midwestern United States. They are sometimes referred to as "squeaky cheese". Characteristics Cheese curds are little known in locations without cheese factories because they should ideally be eaten within hours of manufacture....

Drawing attention to an alias kind of reduces effectiveness

fixed

In Wisconsin they sell cheese curds all over.

There are huge huge display cases of them even.

Anyhow @cerb, do our answers make sense? It's not the questions, but the chat behavior

I have no idea what you're talking about.

4:47 PM

I'll leave tchrist to explain.

You can't polish a cheese curd.

They are already shiny to start with.

In their little shrink-wrapped packaging.

My boss had me bring him back some from Christmas, because they’re stupidly hard to get in Colorado compared with in Wisconsin.

I brought him like a dozen packages. He’s from up north, and the only cheese curds available here are from expensive gourmet joints.

As opposed to being found in the corner gas station up north.

I found the first sentence rather funny, "This article is about cheese curds as a regional delicacy."

@Cerberus It’s that guy I’ve put on ignore. He comes in demanding answers to dumb questions, and he is a ping-pest.

I wondered if the next sentence was going to be "For information about cheese curds as industrial waste, see [...]"

4:52 PM

Heh.

OMFG a blizzard.

We had 17 °C just two days ago.

> Fresh curds squeak against the teeth when bitten into, a defining characteristic, due to air trapped inside the porous material. This "squeak" has been described by the New York Times as sounding like "balloons trying to neck".

It's sunny but cold here.

Now it's below zero and the window to my office is a milk bottle.

@RegDwighт Welcome to my world.

4:53 PM

Thank you.

We’ve been slingshotting back and forth between blizzards and 70s.