@RegDwighт Hehe, yes, well, it probably was, since those are American queues...

@Gigili But for a normal plan with, say, 500 MB data?

Another theory I overheard is that they stress-test every product before it leaves the factory by means of a Chinese-worker punchfest.

If the product survives the punchfest, it is deemed fine and is packaged and shipped.

@Cerberus GPRS? We don't have normal plans, we only have abnormal plans here.

About 8R/kb it says on the website.

@RegDwighт The vandal strikes again.

Yeah, I saw that.

I posted details.

That's where I saw it.)))

Your post has a triple chin.

It was created in God's own image.

But with the beard, how could you tell?

Exactly.

I forgot the beard.

Or perhaps I'm so Antichristian, I shave posts.

@RegDwighт I hope you also saw my mea culpa then.

Aye.

"I worked in a chemist" sounds like a dupe. Well, among other things.

@RegDwighт Haha would be cool. But everyone knows Chinese can't punch a hole into a stick of butter.

@Gigili Surely you have 3G?

@RegDwighт It is actually a fact that the fake wear and tear in jeans is made by hand.

Kind of.

They do also use washing machines filled with garbage. Whence "stone-washed".

@Cerberus I don't know about all jeans or if it's by hand but some racks of jeans have the exact distress pattern on all of them in the exact same spot. It looks more like they're machine distressed than hand distressed to me. Furniture is distressed that way too sometimes.

Back in my day, a "holey" pair of jeans was a pair you'd been wearing for years.

@RegDwighт Oh haha.

@SpareOom I'm sure various techniques are used, but I once saw a documentary about jeans where they did it by hand. I think that was G-Star.

No. I haven't yet tried today.

@JasperLoy Ok, that will still be no. I don't know what else to try. Repeating the same thing isn't working. :D

Well I must be off for today.

Happy whatever.

Bye!

Do consider joining the Austrian Armed Forces, @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇

Habe die Ehre!

@Cerberus A lot of mass production work is done by hand in labor-cheap countries. It would not surprise me a bit if somebody's job was to pick up every pair of jeans and slash it here and there. If it were me I certainly would do it the same way over and over, whatever was easiest.

@JasperLoy It seems that of the several area 51 zones I'm following, I can't enter discussion areas and vote. Maybe I need more points to participate in the discussions.

@MετάEd Yeah true, although I am sure it is done by machine in some factories, if that is cheaper/faster.

What I was was that they used ehm the kind of hand-machine that you use to polish wood with?

@Cerberus There's no doubt in my mind at all that the consideration is cost.

It might surprise you how much mass production is done by hand though.

Because of cost.

@MετάEd Not the honourable tradition of jeans-scraping?

@MετάEd I know it is.

I hate that. Jeans should be dark blue and stiff when you buy them, and too big.

You have to shrink them and break them in.

There are actually women in China peeling our oranges, I believe.

And none of that "relaxed fit" or "stretchy" crap for me, either.

@MετάEd Hmm, an interesting American tradition.

@Cerberus Sure.

But the transparent, fibrous membranes around each "part" (what do you call those?) are dissolved chemically.

We call them part(je)s.

@Cerberus Jeans in my childhood were denim cut into pants. All the distressing and so on came later. It just seems wrong because I didn't experience it as a child. I know that, but it's still wrong.

Sections.

I've always hated the spots and scrapings and tears too.

In America, anyway, that's what we call them. Sections.

Ah.

Just give me plain blue jeans.

@MετάEd I agree about the dark blue. It's hard to tell how much too big to buy them though.

Of course the cut needs to be right.

But I have nothing against light blue, as long as it's even.

Non-blue is dubious.

@Cerberus These days it is hard to know. They use a variety of dyes. But when I see light blue I think they are old and worn out.

And in fact they do wear them out in big tumblers with sand: which just, in my mind, is a waste of my money.

Why should I buy a pair of worn out work trousers.

D'oh.

It's silly.

@Cerberus I haven't a clue what you mean.

@SpareOom A section of an orange?

Oh, I thought you were talking about bluejeans.

Heh.

@MετάEd Indeed.

Also called segments.

Here, lots of tears and spots mean lower class.

You're not supposed to wear those.

Especially bleached spots.

@Cerberus In my jeans, they mean I did some honest hard work and spoiled my work clothes.

@JasperLoy They are 100 % intentional.

@MετάEd Those are OK.

Several years ago, there was a style I saw in Itally that looked like someone had just sat on a freshly painted bench.

Just the fake ones.

Bleached spots in my jeans mean I went on a drinking binge in them.

@SpareOom Nice.

You drink bleach?

You mean you botched up your GHB?

I believe that is made out of bleach...

Very easy to make at home.

When I was a kid, jeans (and overalls) were mostly for the farm or labor, and some schools had a dress code that forbade wearing jeans. People used to patch the knees on their jeans. Now, I don't know if anyone would - the hole in the knee is more stylish. And I actually darned a few socks too. Then again, my folks were pretty thrifty. Maybe nobody else bothered.

@JasperLoy Where are you from? What's the image of jeans there?

They're uncomfortable to some people.

Do your pores sing in Singapore?

Hey ... it's Thor's Day! Happy Thor's Day!

Donner, party of six? Your table is ready.

It's a German joke for Thursday. Also, cannibalism.

@Robusto I get an infantile pleasure out of making restaurant reservations in the name of Donner. Sadly I never get to do it because my wife objects.

Not sure whether that's an oral or anal pleasure.

I chalk it up to Schadenfreude.

@Robusto If it were Schadenfreude, I would be getting my pleasure out of making restaurant reservations in the name of Donner over my wife's objections.

Instead I pretty much do what I'm told.

Good point. Call it masochism then.

You know how the sadist replied to the masochist, don't you?

Kindly?

He said "no".

That was Nancy Reagan's line.

Indeed.

Drove Ronnie out of his mind with that one.

Well, time for me to jump off the bandwagon here and onto the homebound express. Laters.