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12:02 AM
@KitFox Sorry, they're all gone.
@Cerberus Have you not had them before?
 
@DavidWallace Whatever our separate definitions of 'whiny', I just want to make sure ...hey, -you- asked and I was trying to answer!
 
@Mahnax Nope. I don't think we have any dish with strips.
We do have plain chicken filet sold in strips; but that's probably not what you mean.
@Mahnax Err strips.
 
Ah.
It's chicken that's breaded and fried.
Then frozen and sold by the box.
 
Breaded?
 
You know, dip it in egg, then breadcrumbs.
Or something like that.
 
12:04 AM
Oh, I see.
No, we do not have that.
Sounds very American!
 
Heh, I would imagine it is.
 
Well, I suppose pollo alla milanese is a bit like that?
Unless you meant deep-fried?
 
Yeah, deep-fried, I think.
You put the frozen ones in the oven though.
 
OK.
 
@Mahnax Hah! I read that as "bearded", and started imagining bearded chickens running around.
 
12:07 AM
We don't have many deep-fried things that aren't American fast-food.
Maybe tempura.
And kroketten.
 
I say "crumbed" for dipped in egg then breadcrumbs.
 
@DavidWallace Haha, that's silly.
 
And bitterballen.
Hmm yes, I would sooner call it crumbed than breaded.
Veal ragoût.
Crumbed and deep-fried.
With mustard.
Kroketten are basically larger sticks of the same stuff.
 
@Mahnax Fried and then frozen? That doesn't sound right.
 
"A boot" doesn't sound right either, but...
 
12:10 AM
@DavidWallace Er, maybe not.
I don't actually know, come to think of it.
 
ducks
 
I always assumed that they were deep-fried.
But that doesn't really make sense.
shrugs
 
It may be possible.
 
@Cerberus no, these are chickens.
 
Oh!
Well, I like chicken too.
 
12:16 AM
I've never had duck before.
 
It's just that magret de canard is so delicious...
And smoked duck breast is great too.
Or whatever you call that.
 
12:43 AM
Hmm I feel like learning Turkish.
I find its suffixes attractive.
 
I believe it has infixes too.
 
I'm sure Arabic or Person would be cool too, but the script is an extra hurdle.
@DavidWallace Hmm yes, could be?
I don't know shit about Turkish yet.
Not only do Arabic and Persian use different characters, but they are also a lot less phonetic.
 
Have you learnt any languages that don't use Roman script?
 
Greek.
And a few words of Russian.
 
OH, of course. I'm an idiot. I knew that (Greek).
 
12:46 AM
It's OK.
 
BUt the Persian/Arabic alphabet has its own challenges.
 
But Arabic letters are harder than Greek.
Yes.
You see, being able to pronounce most words correctly is a nice ehm motivation to continue.
And Turkish pronunciation is easier than any other language I know, except Italian, perhaps.
Spanish is also fairly easy.
 
I'll have to take your word for it, re Turkish. I've never looked into it. I know only one word of Turkish.
 
Which is?
 
Hang on, I can't type it.
 
12:49 AM
@DavidWallace I find songs to be the most convenient way to learn a language—that is, it takes very little effort, because it's fun, provided that you like the song.
Look at the lyrics and listen to the pronunciation. Very consistent.
 
Mar 8 at 10:45, by David Wallace
I used to go very frequently to a Turkish restaurant. The owner, Hasan, didn't know my name, but he knew what I liked to order. So instead of writing down my order, he would write down the word enışte. I found out that this means "brother-in-law", or more generally, a male relative by marriage. But I figured there must be a hidden meaning to it, or he wouldn't have used this word to mean me.
 
I already knew most of the pronunciation from when I was in Istanbul.
@DavidWallace Hmm...I didn't know that word yet—now I do!
 
I so envy people from Europe, who have so many interesting countries fairly close by.
 
I suppose.
 
From me, even Australia is a huge distance away.
 
12:51 AM
But you will envy us less when we are stuck in the middle of nowhere with a dead cell phone and locals who only speak a few words of German in a horrible accent.
How many hours is Sydney?
Istanbul is about 3.5 hours from Amsterdam.
 
Alright, it's time for me to study Biology. Over and out.
 
About 3.5 from Wellington to Sydney.
 
Ah I knew it!
 
(a jinx of sorts)
 
I was going to say, "Sydney's probably about the same distance?".
@Mahnax Bai!
The horizontal distance between Auckland and Wellington probably isn't that great, is it?
 
12:53 AM
Actually, I believe the closest country to New Zealand is New Caledonia. But I've never been there.
 
Is that even a country?
Doesn't it belong to England or something?
 
It takes about 8 hours to drive from Wellington to Auckland, or one hour to fly.
 
Well, I suppose you do too.
 
yes, it belongs to something.
 
Hah! I'm a "wannabe Brit" or whatever that man called me.
 
12:55 AM
@Gigili Hi. How is your GN?
 
Good afternoon, @Gigili - I hope you are well.
 
@DavidWallace Not sure you ever wanted it...
 
"New Caledonia is a special collectivity of France located in the southwest Pacific Ocean"
 
@Cerberus I hardly know. I am too sleepy to talk about that silly phone. But umm, it's perfect.
 
@DavidWallace Ahh I knew it.
@Gigili Uh, okay.
 
12:57 AM
What's a "collectivity"?
 
The islands are probably an autonomous region together.
Just as we have Aruba, Curaçao, and Bonaire as one "municipality" within the Kingdom now.
Those are the ABC islands.
The SSS islands, on the other hand, are each its own "land" within the Kingdom.
Or whatever.
 
So why do we need a special word for it?
 
It is probably a French administrative term directly translated.
 
But how can you translate anything into "collectivity" when it doesn't mean anything?
 
Why do you say it doesn't mean anything?
 
1:01 AM
It seems a non-word to me.
 
Well, that would be explained by the theory that it was directly taken from French.
 
What is "the quality or condition of being collective?"
 
That's not the exact meaning it has here.
 
Well, yes.
 
Yes not?
 
1:03 AM
Yes that is not the exact meaning.
 
Right.
 
One of those "yes meaning no" cases.
 
Yes.
 
 
2 hours later…
2:57 AM
yawn
 
3:41 AM
If I should be going to bed instead of reviewing first posts, may a balrog … AÍ! A BALROG HAS COME!
@tchrist Naah: arguably Sauron is a big balrog.
 
4:06 AM
Yawn
And howdy
 
Hiya.
 
Hey @Mahnax
What's up, dude?
 
I'm just relaxing after a good evening of studying.
You?
 
It's just going
 
Pardon?
What's just going?
 
4:08 AM
Life
 
Oh, I understand.
 
Comprendi...
 
Well, what have you done so far today?
 
omm, nothing really...
It was a quite day
 
You went to school, yeah?
 
4:09 AM
Yea
But that's routine
 
What classes do you have this semester?
 
Algebra, Precalculas, and Chemistry
 
I see. Year 11? Or year 12?
 
11
 
OK.
 
4:20 AM
I suck at cal
 
What does it entail, exactly?
We don't have individual courses for those things, but they all end up being covered at some point or another.
 
Limit, derivaties, ....
 
Ah, OK.
That sort of stuff.
 
Yea, you like it?
 
Sure. I haven't done much of it though—what I do know has been self-taught on my own time, and it's fairly limited.
I'll be doing it at school sometime this year.
 
4:23 AM
Calculus is just geometry with very narrow rectangles.
 
@MετάEd You seem to be pretty good at it
@Mahnax OK
@MετάEd Where are we gona use this?
@MετάEd I thought you were going to BED
 
@Noah High paying job. you won't use it working at McDonalds but you will use it doing oilfield analysis.
@Noah I am. I have promised the balrog breathing down my neck.
 
@MετάEd omm, I guess you could, finding the LIMIT of MacNuggets
 
Ooh, AAPL stock took a little hit: -2.50%.
 
@Mahnax do you play stock?
do you play stock
 
4:32 AM
@Noah You completely changed the question there.
No, I don't.
 
Sorry...
didnt mean to
just happened
 
But sometimes I check things, you know?
 
okay... just for fun
 
Sure.
 
?
 
4:34 AM
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QUESTION MARK
Unicode: U+003F, UTF-8: 3F
 
Do you own anything Apple?
 
Yes.
types on his MacBook Pro
glances at iPod
looks in fridge
 
And and an iTomato juicer
 
No, not one of those.
But I do have an iBean grinder.
And an iCarry backpack.
 
Go to Mac-Donalds and ask for an iMacChickenCheese
iCarry sounds cool
some analysts say that Apple may go belly-up, but i dont think so
 
4:39 AM
Oh, how could I forget the iDrunk vodka in my closet?!
 
@Mahnax LOL
 
@Noah Eh, we'll see.
 
yea...
hey, I gotta go
 
OK, well enjoy your iSleep in your iBed.
 
good night
 
4:41 AM
Don't forget to set the alarm on your iClock!
 
Thanks, will try to hold my iDream
 
You wouldn't want to be late for the iBus in the morning.
 
will ride my iBycicle if that happens
 
iBicycle*
 
have to be careful with my iClass
@Mahnax TNKXHS
lol
see u
 
4:43 AM
Alright, get thee hence! Good night.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:46 AM
@MετάEd Geometry is just calculus with very small curvature.
 
 
6 hours later…
12:00 PM
So I wake up to this:
-1 Just can't see what the fuss is all about. Contrary to what the grammar subreddit comment says, what you have here is neither 'My-wife-and-I' nor is 'My wife and I' the name of an obscure music album, in which case the apostrophe would be understandable (pardonable, actually). In the present case, the phrase is a set of standing alone words leading to the ungrammatical I's. The title of that post is patently incorrect beyond question. The OP's question is without substance. — Kris 5 hours ago
That's on a two-year old Good Question with a Good Answer by Kosmonaut, mind you. puzzled
And AFK again.
 
12:20 PM
@RegDwighт What, three questions from NS this morning?
This is such a pain.
-1
Q: Lives Here By That Name

ArmeeIf a person is being looked for in some place and he doesn't work and live there, the possible ways to write about this are: Nobody by that name works and lives here. Nobody works and lives here by that name. Could the second version be bad, because "by that name" is too far from "nobod...

Notice the comments, too; fits the profile.
@RegDwighт If you think the comment’s bad, what about the new answer?
I used up all up closevotes already casting them on older questions of his, so I have no more to spend on these three new ones.
For a while, at least.
 
12:41 PM
Pretty sure this is a dupe:
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Q: The significance of "The" before country name

GeekI am from India . I do not say that I am from the India . But some one from USA would say "I am from the United States of America ". Why you need to use the extra "the" in the second case ?

Well, I found four semi-dupes and ran out of comment space.
 
Oh. You don’t the “[cleartext](cyphertext)” style to get more charunits in.
 
I also like to edit the question titles for brevity in such cases.
You can easily shoehorn eight questions into a comment that way.
 
Yah, ok.
Does only the number count, and the words after are just flavor text?
That must be so, or else editing question titles would break links.
 
I think the only reason for that text to be there is SEO.
 
Ah.
That makes some sense.
I get the idea that NS asks 3-5 new questions out of a new sock every 2-4 days, such that the Mean Time Between NS Questions is just about exactly one day.
And he seldom seems to wait for the 4 days.
 
1:11 PM
I don't get what he wants.
 
Hello
 
Meaning, you don’t know whether he wants attention and/or answers?
 
can I throw in a simple question
 
You just did.
 
@tchrist Meaning, I don't even know if he knows.
At this point, it's just a habit. Daily routine.
 
1:13 PM
I have completed the task you had asked for OR I have completed the task you asked for
 
One theory is that he reposts questions from other forums because he didn't like their answers.
 
which is more natural?
and probably better?
 
But yes, it seems daily now, which was my point. I am sorry for the work he puts you through, but I haven’t thought of any solution. And I have thunk on it.
 
I don't think pluperfect is needed there.
 
Er?
Oh.
 
1:14 PM
Yeah that was at Noah.
 
@tchrist what do you think?
@RegDwighт Why not?
 
I wonder why compound tenses are needed at all.
 
so any better idea?
 
I finished the task you asked me to do.
Saying "I have finished" makes it more immediate.
I bet he is trying to make the asking further back in time than the completing.
And hence, resorts to the pluperfect.
 
I finished the task you **had** asked me to do
 
1:16 PM
Emphasis does not help explain.
I do not understand that “had”.
It is not wrong, exactly.
But it is not clear.
People do sometimes use it there, though.
mutters that his typos are always at the lexeme level
 
I noticed.
 
It is so weird.
 
It is.
 
@tchrist seems more common in BrE
any idea why is that?
 
@Noah The "have done" is more common in British than in North American English for the recent past.
Similarly to how Spaniards also employ the present perfect for the recent past where Americans are more apt to use the simple past there.
 
1:19 PM
@tchrist but the same goes for Past P, i guess
 
Well, past perfect is another thing altogether, I think.
uses Americans in the non-English sense
Greetings, O @Kosmonaut!
 
Hello
 
Sorry Kris didn’t like your Saxon genitives. I long ago upvoted it.
 
I just don't understand the point of anything he is saying!
 
Don’t feel bad: neither did Reg.
(v.s.)
 
1:21 PM
I just think it is humorously odd
 
OFFS I just realized I had a dream about Reg last night.
I was trying to explain his name to somebody.
I notice that in the deployment of yesterday’s SE build, they’ve tweaked the magic again, and Safari is again updating things in real time.
Such as notifications of questions with new activity on the main page, and vote totals and new edits on individual pages.
@RegDwighт Another frequent typo née lexemic substitution of mine is to write someone for somewhat. Troubling.
There, see. I can do it if I try. :)
 
Hi, can/does an autobiography include a person's future plans?
(sorry if I am interrupting...)
 
It’s not forbidden to mention them.
But if that is all the book is about, one would be hard-pressed to classify it as an autobiography.
 
oh, okay
 
Anybody know what ultimate purpose SE hopes to make of the machine-learning contest to predict questions most likely to be closed? Seems like a cheaper way than hiring an expert to write it for them, which is really all they’re doing by masking it as a contest.
I think I have the NS feature-vectors down pretty well by now, but I am not willing to write them here where they are subject to search and review by blackhatted folks.
 
1:33 PM
@Kosmonaut I rarely understand the point of Kris's posts and when I do it is often the opposite of what I'd expect.
 
@Mitch It's just weird — I could see this response if the question hadn't been answered yet. It would still be ignorant of the facts, but it would at least make sense....
Instead, he doesn't even attempt to address what was written in the answer.
 
and despite Reg's OP being well-...written let's say, that kind of question would nowadays get quickly closed (I think).
but 'without substance' seems...aggressive.
@Kosmonaut the comment is incoherent.
 
Dang it, I found a similar X to Y weirdness writ in differentness.
Let me unroll my edit first.
> Imagine an editor with multi-language support. You're able to open multiple documents at once and the language of each document, of course, can be different to the other documents.
See what I mean?
 
@tchrist you found that or is that what you say?
 
I found it. I certainly don’t talk like that!
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Q: Concise word for "common default but with individual appearance"

Em1Imagine an editor with multi-language support. You're able to open multiple documents at once and the language of each document, of course, can be different to the other documents. First of all, the editor itself does have some general settings which affect all documents, independent of the lang...

I don’t know if the speaker is a native speaker of UK English, or just a German.
Or both.
 
1:41 PM
@its_me 'future plans' are not likely parts of any kind of story/history/biography/autobiography. An autobiography is not realy a record of ones thoughts (which include future plans) but of what one has done colored with ones internal motivations. 'Future' things are the domain of fiction writers.
 
@Mitch And politicians. Not that these differ.
 
@tchrist Em1 is native German speaker
 
Ah, ok.
@Reg says that Germans do this.
 
@tchrist :)
 
I dove in to try to edit Em1’s posting into something that looked better, when I found that syntactic snafuzzle.
 
1:43 PM
@tchrist German has the same preposition problems (which one to use/vagueness) as English. But the solutions seem randomly different from English.
 
I think I should fix it.
 
@tchrist but the OP is actually responding to comments, which is unlike ns. and the formatting is not like ns (the subject totally is).
 
@Mitch But the comment-responses are in NS’s style.
Why does this use of correlate seems off?
> These settings, at the first glance, are correlated to the whole editor again (that is all documents) but they aren't.
I think it should be more like: “These settings, at the first glance, are applied to the whole editor again — that is, to all documents —but they aren't.”
Am I the only one who thinks that “document” is an offally officious word for a file?
 
@tchrist looking at others of armee's questions, they are all pretty NS-consistent.
 
I think the comment style ups the probability. At least, it does according to my own feature vectors (that’s a machine-learning term).
 
1:53 PM
@tchrist within the bounds of the subject it is not noticeably 'higher' register (it only is a tniy bit more officious to me here)
 
It’s hard to make a training corpus because so many of his questions are deleted, and these are the very ones you want to train on.
Yes, within the bounds of the subject.
But I edit files, not documents.
 
@tchrist aren't they all merged under NS (once found out)?
 
I suppose that a logical document might comprise several physical files.
 
@tchrist I wouldn't be surprised if Churchill had pieces of 'personal future plans' in his historical writings.
 
@Mitch Yes, but it is too hard for me to track down his deleted things. If I were really writing a proper machine-learning application for it, I might request a set of URLs from the dev/mods. I still couldn’t seen separately-deleted comments, but I bet those are rare. I could at least find the deleted ones more easily than I can now.
I have myself deleted perhaps 6–10 NS questions, so I know there are plenty of those.
The thing is, that they got deleted is a very good feature-vector property.
It isn’t worth the effort to figure out, but it is amusing to try.
The daily caretaking by mods of his questions is many orders of magnitude less work than writing a machine-learning app that assigns an NS percentage to postings.
 
1:57 PM
@its_me Most people are writing their auto-biography towards the end of their lives and so not very likely to have substantive future plans other than 'call laundry service; call realtor for summer vacation rental; call to schedule doctor's appointment'.
Robert Graves famously wrote his autobiography in his late 20's (because he had quite a bit to write about). But he didn't really talk about his future plans. A bit presumptuous, don't you think? Now if you wrote those plans -as though they had happened- that would be an artistic achievement itself (which one would write about in the next volume of autobiography.... ) (extra paren added for @Gigili, but not one here
 
Sorry, Human Release Tests keep interfering.
@tchrist you were saying?..
 

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