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6:00 AM
Very nice.
 
It is actually possible to see greenish-red. It is a color that cannot exist. You have to do a really naughty trick to your poor visual cortex.
Same with bluish-yellow.
Do you know how?
 
No, I don't.
 
And no, bluish-yellow is not green. That is not what I mean.
 
Do tell!
 
You do the stereoscopic trick.
You make one image with one color and the other of the other one.
Then you cross your eyes to see in 3D.
It is a very very strange thing.
 
6:02 AM
Huh.
 
Your brain is convinced you are looking at a single thing.
 
That sounds painful.
Do you have a cat?
 
It isn't painful.
Yes, he's right next to me.
It is not painful, just super weird.
 
Aww, I love cats. What type of cat is he?
 
He’s a white-footed charcoal-grey cat, with a white bib.
He is an American shorthair, in theory.
But he has a pretty decent undercoat.
He is 20 years old, and healthy.
 
6:04 AM
He sounds very lovely.
@tchrist Wow.
My friend's cat had to be put down at 16, not too long ago.
She was very sick.
 
That is sad.
And yet, we do not do that with people.
Usually.
 
Yes, it is. Her name was Pushka, or Пушка, if you prefer Cyrillic.
 
He is a bit hard of hearing.
 
Well, who can blame him?
 
But he still hunts daily.
He has a catdoor so he comes and goes of his accord.
 
6:06 AM
I like your cat already.
 
And he has survived coons and skunks and foxes and coyotes and lions and bears, all of whom are in my neighborhood from time to time.
Sometimes on my porches, even.
And magpies.
 
I had a grey tabby before, but we had to give her to some relatives when we moved into town.
 
Do you have magpies?
Oh, you live in a city?
 
I'm not sure, actually.
 
You would know if you had magpies.
 
6:07 AM
Not a big city, just a medium-sized town.
 
They are bigger than a jay and smaller than a crow.
Hm.
Magpies (Pica Pica) are passerine birds of the crow family, Corvidae. In Europe, "magpie" is often used by English speakers as a synonym for the European Magpie, as there are no other magpies in Europe outside Iberia. That bird was referred to as a "pie" until the late 16th century when the feminine name "mag" was added to the beginning. Magpies are believed to be one of the most intelligent of all animals: the European Magpie is one of the few animal species known to be able to recognize itself in a mirror test.. In the UK, the Magpie has long been associated with a habit of steal...
 
I lived on an acreage before.
 
That isn't a magpie picture!
Define "an acreage".
 
Well, a larger house out of town, on a larger property.
It's a common term here.
I guess the houses don't need to be large, but they tend to be.
 
We would normally ask how much acreage.
Or simply, how many acres.
Now that is a magpie.
Pica pica.
 
6:11 AM
We might have them. I really don't know.
 
You would know. They are intrusive. And loud. And annoying.
There are the only passerine ("songbird") exempted from the "can't shoot songbirds" law.
Because of how obnoxious they are.
 
We have pigeons. Tons and tons of pigeons. Some of them are living on the roof of my workplace.
 
To call someone a magpie is not a nice thing.
Magpies are in Europe and the West, but not in the East of North America.
 
Hello, @its_me.
 
@Mahnax Hey!
 
6:13 AM
The Black-billed Magpie (Pica hudsonia) is a bird in the crow family that inhabits the western half of North America. It is notable for its domed nests, and for being one of only four North American songbirds whose tail makes up half or more of the total body length (the others being the Yellow-billed Magpie, the Scissor-tailed Flycatcher, and the Fork-tailed Flycatcher). Systematics and evolution Externally, The Black-billed Magpie is almost identical with the European Magpie, Pica pica, and is considered conspecific by many sources. The American Ornithologists' Union, however, splits i...
 
@its_me What brings you here this evening?
 
Black-billed Magpies range in the north from coastal southern Alaska, central British Columbia, and the southern halves of Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba, through the Rocky Mountains down south to all the Rocky Mountain states including New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, and some bordering states as well. The range extends as far east as Minnesota and Iowa, but is thought to be limited further east by high temperature and humidity.
 
Southern halves. I'm close to the middle.
 
So maybe you get occasional strays then.
 
@Mahnax I often come across sentences that are kinda poetic or slang or unusual. I am wondering if I can ask the meaning of the sentence here... :(
(I mean on the site as a question)
 
6:14 AM
It depends, really.
If you'd give us an example or two it would help.
 
Oh, I will be back in a moment (...off to find an example)
 
If the sentences are not widely used or are too specific, we might close the Q as too localized.
 
Okay... I will check that
 
Black-billed Magpies frequent open country with thickets and scattered trees, especially riparian groves. They can be found within cities and suburbs as well.
In the United States, Black-billed Magpies are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, but "[a] Federal permit shall not be required to control . . . magpies when found committing or about to commit depredations upon ornamental or shade trees, agricultural crops, livestock, or wildlife, or when concentrated in such numbers and manner as to constitute a health hazard or other nuisance ".
So if they are nuisance, they can be harshed on.
 
Interesting.
 
6:17 AM
It’s a strange exemption.
 
Justified, would you say?
 
Anyway, my kitty has had . . . issues with them.
I don’t like killing things.
 
Aww.
 
He should know better than to go after them.
They are very big. They pecked him fierce and ganged up on him.
 
I hear that my old cat has been beating on the other cats in her area. I'm so proud…
@tchrist That is really a shame. I hope it didn't cause too much damage.
 
6:19 AM
I only kill mosquitoes.
 
I kill mosquitoes and flies.
 
Yes well, he had to go to the vet for care.
Flies too, if I can.
 
I have killed over 60 small, flying insects in my store over the past week and a half.
 
But moths in my house I catch and release outside.
Unless my kitty gets them first.
 
We've had a few moths, I just try to guide them out, through the drive-thru window.
 
6:20 AM
Are you a Brave Little Tailor? :)
He boasted of killing seven in one blow.
 
If they don't cooperate, I catch them in cups and then eject them gently.
 
@Mahnax Funny I am having a hard time trying to find an example. But isn't this too localized? english.stackexchange.com/q/77999/15389
 
Or some large number.
 
@tchrist Hehe, nope.
 
@its_me That wasn’t a great question, no. It was kinda too basic.
 
6:21 AM
Yeah. I want that one to go to ELL.
 
@tchrist Yes. But is that okay?
 
Depends on the voters, really.
 
or will such questions usually be closed as too localized?
 
I mean, he can't even spell grammar.
 
oh, okay
@Mahnax Many in non-eng speaking countries can't :P
 
6:22 AM
Basically, read through the FAQ. If you think your question will fit, ask it.
If not, don't.
If you aren't sure, then gamble, or play it safe.
@its_me I have realized that.
@tchrist He eats moths?
 
Okay. Thanks for the input.
 
@Mahnax He is a fearsome predator.
He has plucked hummingbirds out of the sky six feet in the air.
 
@tchrist Haha. Does he ever bring you tasty snacks?
My cat would bring my pregnant mother mice.
 
He doesn’t seem particularly intent on sharing.
 
Understandable.
 
6:25 AM
For some reason I thought it brought you pregnant mother mice.
The weirdest thing he brought home once was a bat.
 
Erm, no.
 
He couldn’t figure out what to do with it.
 
@tchrist That is weird.
 
It was making a piercing keening sound and flitting about.
I captured it and sent it outside.
 
He hadn't killed it?
 
6:26 AM
My kitty was rather spooked.
 
Interesting.
 
No.
He is like Wednesday.
He likes to play with his food.
 
Lovely.
Ah yes, my cat could detect when my mother was pregnant.
Those were the only times when she would go anywhere near my mother.
 
He can make this sound that sounds like an angry lynx. He uses it to chase off foxes and other cats.
Odd.
 
I have never heard an angry lynx.
 
6:28 AM
Neither have I.
But he didn’t sound like a housecat.
 
Interesting that you would make that connection, then.
 
I have heard mountain lions roar, though.
 
Me too.
 
And that is what it reminded me of.
 
Wow.
Is he a big cat?
 
6:29 AM
They don’t exactly actually roar, because they are not in the Panthera genus.
No, only about 12 pounds. He used to be 13.
 
Ah, nice.
 
Mountain lions used to be in Felis, the bidirectionally purring cats, but they moved them into Puma.
I guess that means they cannot purr both directions.
Or they’ve changed the definition.
Housecats purr constants, not just when exhaling.
 
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Q: Prevent vs Avoid

user1526667What is the difference between Prevent and Avoid ? A method for avoiding deadlocks, rather than preventing them, requires that the operating system have a prior information about how each process will utilize system resources. pls give some example.

 
It’s a hardware issue.
 
Please kill it.
 
6:31 AM
Why can’t they use a dictionary?
 
That would be too difficult.
Oh, and it's gone.
 
I rly cnt stnd it whn thy us stpd txtspk.
 
m nthr
 
I hv a prgrm 2 do al th mndls cnvrsn nto nmbntd frsljy 4 me.
 
plz send teh code
 
6:36 AM
I only us it whn I rly wnt 2 nfr8 sme1.
 
sum1*
 
No, no interconsonantal vowels allowed to survive reduction.
No, no ntrcnsnntl vwlz alwd 2 srvv rdcshn.
 
Ouch, my ears. Eyes? Whatever. Painful either way.
 
This is how I feel when I read that stuff.
I think it’s bedtime for me. Need to grab the kitty and go up to bed.
You still have cats?
 
No, unfortunately.
 
6:40 AM
Sorry.
 
I'll be getting one when I have my own place, a few years down the road.
I do so love cats. But yes, it's bedtime for me too. Up at six tomorrow.
 
Oh my.
Not enough sleep.
5 hours and I'm bitchy.
But not in the morning.
Morning I am always awake. Am a morning person.
 
For most of the school year I would run on 6 hours.
 
Afternoons are tough.
 
I am certainly a morning person as well.
 
6:41 AM
You won't grow.
 
I am 179 cm tall.
 
There are only two kinds of people in the world.
Morning people.
 
I needn't grow any more.
 
And slackers.
 
Ha.
 
6:42 AM
You’re 5'10½".
That’s respectable.
 
Something like that.
How tall are you?
 
But you have 4-7 more years of growth left.
Well, I used to be 5'8.
Apparently I've sagged.
 
Oh, dear. I don't want to be much taller than this.
I do need to go to bed, so bye!
 
Most college undergraduate boys can grow an inch or two if they can regular sleep.
 
G'nite.
 
6:44 AM
Which is seldom.
Good night.
 
7:23 AM
Hello
Is everyone going to bed
?
 
Mostly.
 
Alrighty
night
 
 
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11:31 AM
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Q: photographers' club of detroit or photographers club of detroit?

ericI prefer non-possessive form of the name of the club: photographers club of Detroit. Is it correct?

Dupe?
 
11:48 AM
How?
Right. Agree.
 
 
2 hours later…
1:34 PM
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Q: Two accounts from the same IP for different people?

its_meMe and my sister would like to have separate accounts. But I see that StackExchange only allows one account per IP address. In that case, how do we do it? We really don't want to ask questions from the same account.

Any help with that please?
 
1:50 PM
This isn't the place to ask. Try meta.stackoverflow and search for questions like the one this links to.
 
 
1 hour later…
2:52 PM
@Tchrist: You tried you explain the difference between the axes of two fonts, but the failing was not mine, because you didn't mention the difference itself, which was that one was vertical and the other oblique. You cannot blame me for that!
 
@Cerberus Did I say I blamed you?
 
It was suggested...
 
It’s much easier to show than to describe. It’s about the pen angle.
When you use a pen with a nib.
 
user19161
@Shog9 Well, whiteboard markers stink. Whiteboards reflect too much light sometimes so that one cannot read what is written on it. Chalks also allow one to create shades.
 
And I didn't say your book was easy to print, not at all: my questioning whether the publisher's cut is worth it was more about novels. You explained your special requirements; then I explored why it wasn't possible for your book, and whether something like formatting the stuff on your own computer and having exact images printed was a possibility. You said it wasn't.
 
user19161
2:58 PM
@Cerberus I thought you are travelling?
 
Last point: if you were ever trying to woo me, I sadly failed to notice.
 
You didn’t notice because it wasn’t happening.
 
@JasperLoy I have just come back home, and I will leave again tomorrow for a week.
@tchrist Exactly.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Are you on business or vacation?
 
@JasperLoy I'll buy the reflection issue - I love the look of chalk-on-black (though I should note, you can get black "whiteboards" - dry-erase boards with very bright markers). However, I must take issue with your criticism of the marker's delectable scent - its cheery solvent aroma has brightened many a dreary meeting for me.
Also: cross-hatching.
 
user19161
3:02 PM
@Shog9 I see you have also become change-an-avatar-a-day like me.
 
@Shog9 Do you huff glue, too? :)
 
@JasperLoy All vacation.
 
@Cerberus anywhere nice?
 
Confession: I like the smell of petrol.
 
You can actually buy them with special scents.
 
3:04 PM
@MattЭллен Two family houses. So relaxed but hardly exciting...
Are you going anywhere?
 
No small children there, then.
 
@Cerberus I've got parents visiting next weekend. Then at the end of August I'm going to Wales on a stag weekend.
should be lots of walking
 
@tchrist Thank God, no. Why?
@MattЭллен And boozing!
 
@Cerberus Yes indeed :D
 
@Cerberus I seldom to never find family homes filled with small children restful.
 
3:07 PM
@tchrist We do not have those, thankfully.
 
@MattЭллен August seems a mite early on the stag show. They usually rut in late September or October.
 
There are exactly 0 small children in my extended family, which means all descendents of my great-grandfather.
 
none? so the line ends with you?
 
@tchrist How so? We have lots of wedding from May through September.
 
3:08 PM
@MattЭллен My generation is still too young to have children.
 
@tchrist ho ho ho
 
None of us are over 30.
 
And there are only 6 of us.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Nonsense. You are almost 30.
 
3:09 PM
@JasperLoy That is young.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Half my friends have kids now.
 
I know some people who have children under 30, but not many.
@JasperLoy That is annoying.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Some were accidents.
 
user19161
I don't think I want to have kids ever.
 
@Cerberus You know some people under 30 who have children.
@JasperLoy I understand they can arrange that for you these days.
 
3:11 PM
@JasperLoy Yes, that happens.
 
user19161
@tchrist Well yes. But whichever method you use, there are risks and moral issues involved.
 
Not having children is a moral issue?
My goodness, this is verging on NSFW:
 
@tchrist Actually, I meant I know some people who were under 30 when they had their first child, and I may know some who are under 30 and already have children, though it may be only the former. I was trying to be unclear out of laziness.
 
I am disturbed to observe that I may be developing a new peeve.
@Cerberus Well, you made a good try of it.
I think my budding new peeve is only-placement. I seldom care for it in the slot immediately preceding the verb.
@Cerberus Does Greek have an explicit vocative particle, as English and Spanish both have prefix "Oh" (or "O"), or does it rely solely on the noun inflection?
The first line of the Iliad uses thea vocatively, but it was first declension so this isn't marked. I think Greek was like Latin in only marking 2nd declension masculine singulars for the vocative case, right?
Did it have a separate particle?
@Cerberus The darned bible gateway has in Greek the New Testament only, not the Septuagint. Makes it hard to compare psalms looking for vocatives.
 
3:40 PM
@tchrist Greek has ô.
Just an omega.
 
So as in O Domine, then.
 
Yes.
The vocative is consistently marked with ô, but it happens.
In most declensions it is identical to the nominative.
 
The etymology on English O! is curious. It was not such in OE, where it was A! or We seem to have inherited it as a classical import.
A natural (or what now seems a natural) exclamation, expressive of feeling. OE. had neither ó!, nor á! (which would have phonetically given ME. ô!). Not in OHG., or early ONor.; in Goth., prob. from Greek; in MHG. and later (Christian) Norse, prob. from Latin. In early ME. 12th c., app. from L. (or ? Fr.); but often varying with A!, esp. in northern writers. Wyclif has O (or A) only when O is in the Vulgate. In OE., Lat. O was rendered by lá or éalá.
 
But there are some other declensions where it different.
 
Latin only 2nd declension. Greek more than just 2nd?
 
3:43 PM
Yes.
 
Oh.
 
The -s sometimes the nominative, so it is left out in the vocative. Then there are nominatives which are the result of compensatory lengthening after the -s disappeared; in those cases, sometimes the lengthening doesn't happen in the vocative.
But there are quite a lot of different nominal paradigms in Greek.
 
As you’ve said.
 
I can never remember. Whenever it looks odd, it is a vocative—that's how I do it.
 
good morning
 
3:45 PM
services kitty
 
Hello.
 
@tchrist that sounds naughty
I hope I haven't interrupted another thrilling font lesson
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 FOOD!
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No, classical grammar.
 
@tchrist This pitch is higher than expected.
Partly.
 
@Cerberus It is in English, too.
“Billy, what are you doing there?!” vs “I wonder what Billy is doing today.”
 
3:49 PM
English elks?
 
Oh sorry. Meant vocatives.
 
Haha.
 
FYI North America has "elk" as invariant in the plural. In the UK, they sometimes say "elks", which to us sound ungrammatical.
For us, "elks" are men from the Elks Club, while "elk" are cervids.
 
@tchrist Where did you observe this offensive only?
 
I only see it when I look for it.
I see it only when I look for it.
I see it when I look only for it.
German elk are different. They’re moose.
Nuttily.
 
3:52 PM
@tchrist Ah, I see. I had my doubts about the plural, but I decided I was too lazy to look it up. I was thinking, "elken? No, that doesn't sound right. Meh."
 
If you were in the UK, no one would bat an eyelash.
 
German elk?
 
But cisatlantically, it rings odd.
 
I know there's elk and moose.
 
Alces alces
 
3:53 PM
I always forget which is what and what the fuss is about.
 
The moose (North America) or Eurasian elk (Europe) (Alces alces) is the largest extant species in the deer family. Moose are distinguished by the palmate antlers of the males; other members of the family have antlers with a dendritic ("twig-like") configuration. Moose typically inhabit boreal and mixed deciduous forests of the Northern Hemisphere in temperate to subarctic climates. Moose used to have a much wider range but hunting and other human activities greatly reduced it over the years. Moose have been re-introduced to some of their former habitats. Their diet consists of both ter...
See? Same species.
Different names.
> The animal bearing the scientific name Alces alces is known in Britain as the "elk",[2] and in North America as the "moose".
Nutters.
 
Ah, I see.
And why German?
 
Der Elch (Alces alces) ist die größte heute vorkommende Art der Hirsche.
 
Surely there are no elk in Germany?
 
There are no zebras in Chicago, either.
Doesn't mean we have no name for them.
German Elch > Elche.
I think they say elks in English because of that.
But am not sure.
 
3:56 PM
I just didn't understand what you were trying to say about "German elk".
 
Oh.
 
@tchrist Ah.
Now I do.
 
I don’t know how to say German-language versus German-country versus German-person.
 
You don't need to.
I just didn't know this was what it was all about:
1 min ago, by tchrist
I think they say elks in English because of that.
 
3:58 PM
If Germans called moose elk, what do they call elk?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Great.
@tchrist Elk is each in Dutch. That's all I know.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That’s the team fielded by the local penitentiary.
@Cerberus Which ones?
 
No ones.
Just elk.
 
Elk huis = each house.
 
3:59 PM
Wapiti – in het Noord-Amerikaans Engels elk genoemd – is de benaming voor de Noord-Amerikaanse hertensoort Cervus canadensis. De soort werd ook wel beschouwd als een ondersoort van het Europese edelhert (Cervus elaphus).
 
Huh?
 
You and the Germans call them Wapiti.
 

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