English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

For example: bismarks, crullers, long johns, and danishes are all different kinds of pastries, all in use where I grew up, not just the same thing going by different words.

simchona

Where'd you grow up?

Region-wise, at least

user1276509

3:28 AM

hi guys. please look at this question: english.stackexchange.com/questions/76633/…

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Q: "knowledge on" or "knowledge of"? Which one is correct?

I want to mention on my CV that I also know a little bit about Java and C#. What is a better way to mention that ? I think one of the followings may be correct: 1) Also have some knowledge on Java and C#. 2) Also have some knowledge of Java and C#. What do you think, which one is correct ? Ho...

tchrist

Southeast Wisconsin.

Where people drink water from bubblers, where root rhymes with foot, and where the opposite of homemade is store-boughten.

simchona

I'm in the Midwest right now

tchrist

What does that mean?

simchona

That I'm currently residing in a city that would be considered the Midwest of the US?

Just making conversation

tchrist

Growing up I thought only WI, MN, IA, IL, IN, MN counted as Midwest.

simchona

3:30 AM

Mhm.

tchrist

Then I learned that people in California think Texas is in the Midwest.

So I don't know what Midwest means.

simchona

Not disputing what counts as Midwest. I'm still in it, by your definition and mine.

tchrist

Oh, ok.

Do they talk noticeably different from you, or from where you grew up?

simchona

Yup.

Socks/sax

tchrist

Don't understand.

simchona

3:32 AM

It's that slightly more nasal sounding vowel group

tchrist

Oh right. Bag/beg?

simchona

Everything is slightly shifted

Yup, bag/beg

tchrist

Tends to be a Great Lakes thing, moreso farther north.

But southern IN and southern IL have a southern twang.

simchona

That's interesting

tchrist

bag/beg can get confusing from Green Bay down to Milwaukee.

simchona

3:34 AM

It's a big enough city where only some people have the accent, so it works out

tchrist

Oh, that part isn’t cog–caught merged, so that will be different, too.

simchona

You're right--I'll have to listen for that

Anyway, it's late here, so I'm off

tchrist

And you can find people who say calm with an actual L, or close to it, there. It sounds like call me a river but shorter.

Good night, see ya.

calm/palm/wolf/golf/gulf all have an L or W in them. Not calf though.

It throws people who have the merger.

tchrist

3:59 AM

Our vandal is back.

Any mods, or at least a trio of 20k users?

simchona

I spam voted, and took it to the Bridge too

If you flag as offensive, eventually it'll disappear

tchrist

Yes, did those things.

"The Bridge"?

simchona

Chat room for Arqade, aka gaming

tchrist

I worry that it's a pattern. That's two in the last hour or so.

Surely the same vandal.

simchona

He's a walking vandal. Has been for a month

tchrist

4:10 AM

Oh, that one.

simchona

4:25 AM

@shog thank you for deleting that

Shog9

np

Tim gave me the heads-up in the Tavern

Mahnax

Good evening.

simchona

4:42 AM

I took it to the Bridge since they had active chatting

Matt Эллен

7:40 AM

this user needs a banning

Matt Эллен

8:21 AM

off topic

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Q: What does "The brave ones come undone" mean?

What does "The brave ones come undone" I saw it here e.g.: http://youtu.be/CmrxfnWcRJ4 The brave ones are not able to finish something?

meaning

David Wallace

@MattЭллен Maybe just a good, hard spanking would suffice.

Matt Эллен

Hiya @DavidWallace - I think that'd enjoy it too much ;)

Jez

lol that was an interesting experience

a recruiter decided to call me "Jez" on the phone

that's my internet name damnit, not my real life name :-D

Matt Эллен

How familiar of him (her?)

Jez

to be fair i do end my emails with "Best regards, Jeremy Morton (Jez)"

Matt Эллен

8:36 AM

Ah. I see. I wondered if they'd found you at SE

Jez

anyway i have an interview today

Matt Эллен

For a job you want?

Jez

im gonna struggle to sound enthusiastic about it.

Matt Эллен

that's not so good

Jez

well i guess. but i am getting a bit ... keen to find a job, having been out ofm work for a couple of months

Matt Эллен

8:37 AM

I see. and you're getting a bit stir crazy?

@DavidWallace I meant they'd, not that'd.

Jez

i wouldn't go as far as stir crazy, no

just financially ... awkward

Matt Эллен

Yeah, that'll make you keen.

Jez

thing is, i think i probably have savings to go on for another couple of months out of work

but the market has cooled down so i'll probably accept this job if they offer me £35k, despite my not being overly enthusiastic about it

especially if they're nice people working in a nice environment

Matt Эллен

Yeah, if it's a pleasant place to be, that makes up for a lot

Jez

may even be a few girlies

Matt Эллен

8:44 AM

!!

Jez

which in UK IT is almost unheard-of

but dont quote me on that one

what's your job, matt?

Matt Эллен

:D

I'm a software developer for a scientific instruments manufacturer

TI?

so, very few girlies

yeah ;-(

8:46 AM

@Jez No, although there is an office in Texas, which can get confusing

There are women, but they're not girlies

Jez

what are they?

Matt Эллен

They tend to be the married with 2 kids type

Jez

ah yes, i know that

Matt Эллен

and they're still very few and far between in comparison to the number of men

Jez

meanwhile the BBC are waxing lyrical about the Olympics. as far as I'm concerned, as long as squash isn't an olympic sport, it's a corporate orgy that doesn't know a good sport if it slaps them in the face

@MattЭллен bien sûr

apparently they had a bunch of badminton players not playing their best and purposely losing yesterday. what a croc. squash players would never do that.

replace badminton with squash!!!!

Matt Эллен

8:49 AM

Why would they do that? It's the flipping Olympics, for crying out loud!

the one time you have to try your best no matter what.

Jez

so they could get a preferable quarter final draw or something?

losing would actually give them an easier opponent

Matt Эллен

Oh, well, maybe that's OK, I don't know

Jez

ok?

Matt Эллен

so long as they plan on giving their best at some point

Jez

they've been charged by some badminton federation for bad sportsmanship

oh please.

they're meant to give their best all the way thru, which squash players do

Matt Эллен

8:50 AM

Tactics are important. It's not about playing - it's about winning

Jez

if you don't believe me, check out some highlights from psasquashtv.com - you might be pleasantly surprised

Matt Эллен

It could be argued that playing for their best interests is playing at their best

Jez

they got booed by the crowd, matt. you'd think they might want to promote their sport a bit better than that.

Matt Эллен

true

Jez

not that it makes much difference. the IOC wouldn't know a worthy sport if it came up and slapped them in the face (something I really wish squash advocates would do). rugby 7's? golf? go fuck yourselves, IOC.

and table tennis? that's somehow televisable, is it?

what a pathetic joke.

Matt Эллен

8:53 AM

I suppose they could have played more riskily - showed off and tried to play with flourish - which would have been better for the crowd and potentially landed them the next game that they wanted

Jez

i love watching pro squash. it's exciting, and interesting to watch the stamina and tactics used.

best damn sport in the world :-)

Matt Эллен

I prefer rugby

Jez

well, that's a shame. ;-)

what about golf? you prefer that?

Matt Эллен

yeah, you can't fit a good game of rugby on a squash court

@Jez golf? not a particularly visceral sport

Jez

that wasnt my question

Matt Эллен

8:56 AM

oh, I tried to imply my answer in my opinion

no, I'm not a golf fan

Jez

??

so you'd prefer to watch squash.

Matt Эллен

probably

RegDwight АΑA

I'd prefer to squash a watch.

Matt Эллен

if it was watching golf, watching squash or death, then I'd choose squash

Jez

seriously, check out highlights on psasquashtv.com - they're free if you register

i think you'd be surprised at how fun it is to watch

maybe it helps if you actually play like me

but still it's a very televisable sport

Matt Эллен

8:57 AM

Then surely you must have enjoyed the handball?

that's pretty much the same, but with no raquet

Jez

i dont really watch handball

erm, no it isnt the same

handball involves throwing a ball into a goal

Matt Эллен

throwing a ball at a wall vs hitting a ball at a wall

Jez

squash is about hitting a ball against a wall

they throw it at a goal, no?

Matt Эллен

oh, I thought handball had a wall

hmm

Jez

no

Matt Эллен

8:58 AM

wiki to the rescue

Jez

rugby 7's and golf. fuck you IOC. just, fuck you.

Matt Эллен

oh! that's totally not what I imagined

Jez

i now have no respect for the Olympics.

they're a corporate orgy of prohibition of freedom, and shitty sports that the IOC calculate will make them the most money

David Wallace

There are two different sports called handball. The American one involves a wall. The one that's in the Olympics involves throwing a ball into a goal.

Jez

the IOC are greedy pieces of shit

Matt Эллен

8:59 AM

Gaelic handball

Gaelic handball (known in Ireland simply as handball; ) is a sport played in Ireland where players hit a ball with a hand or fist against a wall in such a way as to make a shot the opposition cannot return, and that may be played with two (singles) or four players (doubles). The sport is similar to American handball (a related and almost identical game), Basque pelota, racquetball and squash. It is one of the four Gaelic games organised by the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA). In 2009, Irish Handball was rebranded as GAA Handball. Rules Handball is played in a court, or "alley". O...

This is what I was thinking of

RegDwight АΑA

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A: A word for the opposite of favorite (or opposite to the most favorite)

Like. "Like" means that you enjoy using/consuming the object in question, however the inherent connotations of the word "like" do not outweigh those of the word "favor". Your "favorite(s)" would be items that you would choose over other items, even those that you like. An item you "like" is one...

Ugh.

WUT?

Matt Эллен

it's sincere

RegDwight АΑA

I know.

But the whole question is, um.

Jez

@RegDwightАΑA Actually, when my dad heard of the word "deprecated", he suggested the adjective "deprecate" as an antonym for "favourite". so, "that's my deprecate car" or something

but it probably has as much traction as my beloved thon

RegDwight АΑA

That's because your "thon" is... puts on sunglasses... deprecated!

Jez

9:08 AM

erm, no it's not

it just didn't catch on

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightАΑA it is indeed.

Jez

if it were deprecated, that would imply it was obsolete and some alternative adequately replaced it. no such alternative exists.

RegDwight АΑA

@Jez you might wish to google for "wikipedia" and there, search for "joke".

Jez

jokes work if they have the ring of truth to them. :-)

yours didn't

RegDwight АΑA

While you're at it, google for "sense of humour".

Jez

9:13 AM

oh, go fsck yourself

Matt Эллен

they have those on Google now? I really need one

actually i could do with the ability to tell interesting anecdotes more

RegDwight АΑA

@Jez I'd also like to have some pointers to dictionaries that define "deprecated" as "some alternative adequately replaced it". I am aware of none.

KitFox

11:29 AM

@MattЭллен So that's why you need to practice writing! So you can make up better stories.

RegDwight АΑA

ELAINE: How am I ever gonna turn this into a book?
JERRY: Well, just shape them — change them. You're a writer.
ELAINE: Yes! I'm a writer.
JERRY: Make them interesting.
ELAINE: Interesting! Of course! People love interesting writing!

KitFox

@Reg you make me lol.

RegDwight АΑA

I think you misspelled Larry David.

KitFox

So today is my freak out day, but it seems I spent it all yesterday.

Plus, I didn't do anything useful.

RegDwight АΑA

How is that a plus?

KitFox

11:34 AM

Now I'm dripping wet.

@RegDwightАΑA How is that not a plus?

RegDwight АΑA

I dunno, I asked first.

KitFox

I did buy a shirt and some new Beyblades and I ate thai food and watched Return of the Jedi yesterday though.

So it was a pretty good day.

RegDwight АΑA

And you didn't have to use your AK?

KitFox

Nobody was killed.

In South Central.

RegDwight АΑA

What about hog for breakfast?

KitFox

11:36 AM

thinking

Nope.

You know pimping isn't easy.

RegDwight АΑA

Well then I just assume that I don't have to ask about jammy vs. punany.

KitFox

Oh hells no.

That's a good earworm for today.

Very soothing.

This is making me feel like I am gonna have a good day.

RegDwight АΑA

Feb 14 '11 at 12:29, by RegDwight

KitFox

I almost posted that. I yoinked it the last time you put it up.

So are we doing tutorials on Early Modern English? Or is that out of scope?

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Q: How Do You Conjugate Early Modern English Verbs in Different Tenses?

I was wondering how one might conjugate verbs in early modern English in various tenses. I am aware of the fact that for second person and third person singular specifically, the verb endings are "-est" and "-eth" respectively, but once you traverse away from simple present tense, it seems to get...