English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

4:00 PM

grr

@Cerberus poor thing, she's condemned to carry that name and to be made fun of until she can actually stand up for herself and decide to get a name change.

Johan Larsson

gotta go, this was fun, marked the room as favorite.

RegDwighт

Have fun.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен How odd. I would probably read it as a girl's name.

KitFox

There are plenty of girls named Kit.

Cerberus

4:01 PM

@JohanLarsson Haha bye!

@ChairOTP Yeah exactly!

RegDwighт

There's a whole city named Bang Cock.

Cerberus

Lies.

RegDwighт

That's like QED or something.

Cerberus

I only know Bang Galore.

And of course Fucking.

RegDwighт

The Big Bang Cock Galore Theory.

Cerberus

4:02 PM

Something like that.

RegDwighт

May 4 at 9:46, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен You know, it's only 34km from Petting to Fucking, but a whopping 656km from Fucking to Wedding.

KitFox

I wonder how far it is from Intercourse to Climax.

Cerberus

Ah, it was in Austria.

ChairOTP

@KitFox Hahaha!

RegDwighт

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A: Proverb about the origin of the English language

Whatever the English language might be ,relating it to any languages by discriptions like " be a bastard' does nothing except that it lowers its dignity. It has been accepted as an international language either it would bea bastard of other languages or an independent language .Do you know a pu...

I knew I should have killed that stillborn with fire when I had the chance.

KitFox

4:04 PM

@ChairOTP 452 mi, apparently.

Cerberus

However, in certain places, on your Iphone, fucking is never far away!

KitFox

But it depends on which Climax you want to get to.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus so many fucking roads.

Cerberus

Huh??

This is Google Maps.

Now what is it really called, the village, and what those streets?

It's the same place.

Clearly.

RegDwighт

What the huck uses the name of Lord our Savior in vain, so Apple being true evangelists had to change it into fuck.

Cerberus

4:07 PM

Haha.

ChairOTP

Surprised they didn't change it to Ducking

Cerberus

@RegDwighт You think that's what happened?

KitFox

Or fudge.

RegDwighт

I am 101% sure.

KitFox

That would have been nicer.

Cerberus

4:08 PM

So it is really Fucking in the really real world?

RegDwighт

@KitFox Details, details.

Cerberus

Why would Google censor maps?

RegDwighт

Apr 20 at 12:29, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

Spiegel Online have a video about fucking on their front page right now.

Cerberus

I gets tons of results for shops and other places in Google Maps for "fucking".

KitFox

Why does anyone censor maps?

RegDwighт

4:08 PM

Apr 20 at 12:29, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

Cerberus

Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

ChairOTP

@KitFox Why not?

RegDwighт

That city name thing gets stolen like twice a day.

What's it's called's anyway's?

KitFox

@ChairOTP Cerb was just assuming I was agreeing with him.

Cerberus

What?

ChairOTP

4:09 PM

lol

KitFox

What I meant was, people censor maps for lots of reasons.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox the US government have censored the resolution of google maps over certain areas

Cerberus

I don't assume anything.

@MattЭллен Uhh all governments do that.

Matt Эллен

there you go then

Cerberus

What happens when you look up B. Palace?

RegDwighт

4:10 PM

@MattЭллен yes, they zoomed in and enhanced.

KitFox

@Cerberus You said "Yeah, it doesn't make sense." It does make sense.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен But that sort of makes sense.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus I can see the Queen taking a bath

Cerberus

@KitFox Does it? Why?

1 min ago, by Cerberus

I gets tons of results for shops and other places in Google Maps for "fucking".

KitFox

Because there are lots of reasons to censor maps.

Cerberus

4:10 PM

@MattЭллен Ohhh.

RegDwighт

@KitFox Name 74.

Cerberus

Censor swear words?

KitFox

@RegDwighт Really? I could try if you really want me to.

Cerberus

And why does it let me find Hucking, Austria, when I searched for Fucking?

RegDwighт

@KitFox No. Everybody knows that the only valid reason to censor a map is this:

Cerberus

4:11 PM

Even the results say "Fucking, Austria": it only changes to Hucking on the map.

KitFox

Maybe it's a typo in the database.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт Haha, is that Apple Maps again?

RegDwighт

@Cerberus that is Russia. Russia >>>> Apple Maps. Hands down.

Matt Эллен

Cerberus

Or just a rail road that's no longer used?

@MattЭллен How odd!

RegDwighт

4:12 PM

@Cerberus yeah. Right. No longer used. whistles

Matt Эллен

I thought about a street view photo, but I didn't want to invade their privacy!

Cerberus

RegDwighт

Feb 9 '11 at 21:45, by Kosmonaut

My officemate is Russian and he swears constantly, and I always know if he is IM'ing me from his iPhone because suddenly he will use the word "ducker".

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus pixely! how odd.

Cerberus

Yup.

RegDwighт

4:15 PM

Maybe those buildings were designed in Minecraft.

ChairOTP

^

RegDwighт

I haven't been there.

Cerberus

Hehe.

Some military areas and royal palaces are censored. Not all.

RegDwighт

It's Holland. I've seen an entire documentary with one of the star architects that are responsible for most of Amsterdam.

They really build things like that.

Cerberus

Like whom?

Vingboons?

Van Campen?

Those aren't blocky.

Matt Эллен

4:18 PM

The inventor of the camper van?

RegDwighт

They all sound the same to me.

KitFox

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

RegDwighт

I think it was Beethoven.

Cerberus

Or do you mean that horrible idiot whatsisname?

This is Schiphol airport.

RegDwighт

4:18 PM

What kind of hole?

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Kitty is not Kit.

Cerberus

@KitFox Nice carrier you've got there.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен It's the same thing, only shorter

RegDwighт

Dumb people don't know about shadows.

KitFox

@Cerberus Do you know which one it is?

RegDwighт

4:19 PM

The shadows are perfectly crisp.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт You know, there once was this "belspel" (game on tv where you have to call in), and the word was S....h.l, and the presenter gave this hint: "derrière of a boat".

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So Kitty is the girl version of Kit?

KitFox

@MattЭллен NO! STOP IT!

Stop with the Kitty!

Cerberus

@KitFox Umm I don't even know what country that is, and I know nothing about carriers, alas...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен No. Kit and Kitty are diminutives of Catherine

KitFox

4:21 PM

@Cerberus The point is, you wouldn't be able to figure it out.

Cerberus

Indeed not.

What are you saying?

RegDwighт

It can't be the one that crashed into the White House.

Cerberus

Hmm?

When did that happen?

RegDwighт

In 2012.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Kit is a boys name that is not a diminutive of anything. I can be a nickname for Christopher, but is a name by itself.

Cerberus

4:22 PM

Are you talking about Bush?

Oh.

KitFox

@Cerberus We obfuscate military information as well.

RegDwighт

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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен That doesn't mean it can't also be a girl's name for perfectly good reasons that have nothing to with other uses of the same, or similar, names

Cerberus

OK.

And government buildings?

So the Pentagon isn't censored.

But why the hell do they have fastfood restaurants inside??

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт wow, that was so realistic and plausible!

RegDwighт

4:24 PM

@Cerberus Because they have so much work to do they can't afford to eat slowly.

Cerberus

RegDwighт

Like, figuring out how to pixelate their building on GMaps.

That is a lot of work.

Cerberus

Craziest thing I have ever seen!

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 considers winding you up, but decides to work instead :D

Cerberus

And a jeweller's shop??

What is it, a shopping mall?

KitFox

4:25 PM

Why wouldn't you?

Cerberus

I don't get it.

KitFox

You need to feed your employees and it is a pain in the ass to go through security just to get something to eat.

Cerberus

I thought it was a top-secret government building and all.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus well what if you're in Arlington and are really hungry?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus It's an office. A workplace. tons of people work there.

KitFox

4:26 PM

Plus, the Brass need to keep their medals polished.

@Cerberus The building isn't top secret.

RegDwighт

> If you have to visit the Pentagon on a business trip, we recommend staying at a nearby Crystal City hotel.

From the official web site.

Cerberus

@KitFox I would have expected something like a cafetaria or canteen...

RegDwighт

Well that is top secret.

Also, what is the difference between a canteen and a Burger King? It's the US, remember?

Cerberus

RegDwighт

A very fitting name for a jeweler.

Cerberus

4:28 PM

@RegDwighт It could be a in a comedy sketch, about capitalism.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus the US is a comedy sketch about capitalism.

7

Cerberus

But why a Jeweler in a government building??

@RegDwighт Haha, I suppose.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus for all the diamonds they need setting in gold.

Cerberus

Of course.

ChairOTP

@Cerberus In case they want to propose...

Cerberus

4:30 PM

At work?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> Approximately 28,000 military and civilian employees[3] and about 3,000 non-defense support personnel work in the Pentagon

Matt Эллен

the pentagon is the most romantic place to work.

ChairOTP

I'd propose at the pentagon.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Any office complex that size is going to have shops and things.

Matt Эллен

we've only got a few hundred people where I work and we have a canteen

Cerberus

4:31 PM

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I work at home, and Starbucks is already opening a chain in my garage.

Matt Эллен

:D

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 An office complex, maybe—but a government building?

ChairOTP

"See You At Noon" what a good name

Cerberus

That's our ministry of defence ^.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:32 PM

@Cerberus But it IS an office complex. It just happens that all the offices are government-owned.

Cerberus

I can assure you, there are no shops.

It is possible that a commercial organisation runs the canteen.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Does you ministry have 30000 people working in it?

Matt Эллен

can you though? no top secret military shops for the spy on the go?

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Some other ministerial complexes might.

ChairOTP

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm surprised Starbucks isn't here yet, but I just found out it's coming already.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:34 PM

@Cerberus The point is, not everything in that building is super-secure, so they can have things like shops, and 30,000 is like a small city, so why wouldn't a city have shops?

@ChairOTP isn't where?

ChairOTP

Colombia.

Nor Brasil, Chile or Argentina.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Because it's a government building?

It's just silly.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Honestly I don't see what makes it silly

Matt Эллен

Yeah, let the government remember to bring in packed lunches. that's tax payers money being wasted on catering!

Cerberus

We have a commercial organisation running the various cafetarias inside university buildings.

@MattЭллен They still have to pay, presumably.

No free food.

Sadly.

Matt Эллен

4:40 PM

but because they have to pay more, we will be subsidising that in their wages. packed lunches should be cheaper.

Cerberus

They can still bring their own lunch.

And packed lunches will be cheaper!

Matt Эллен

they must be forced to! it's the only sane thing to do. save the tax payer billions of dollars every year

holy crap, did I just write sayve?

what is wrong with me?

Cerberus

But preparing your own lunch takes time. It means you get less sleep, and you will be a less productive worker.

ChairOTP

@Cerberus What do you do when you're running late then?

Cerberus

@ChairOTP Yeah, yeah. It's hard.

Matt Эллен

4:42 PM

@Cerberus then they need to be trained to work harder on less sleep and be better at making lunches.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен And what if they should fall ill? A burn-out?

Matt Эллен

I make my packed lunch in the evening. that way I don't have a problem if I run late.

ChairOTP

@MattЭллен I wouldn't consider the lack of sleep as an excuse since you can order food.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Not everyone likes bread soaked in tomato juices.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus Darwinian motion will sort them out

Cerberus

4:43 PM

And who's going to pay for their healthcare?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Hell, we even have Tim Hortons franchises on military bases in foreign countries, for the troops who are away from home and need donuts.

Cerberus

Silly.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus They will learn. Capitalism doesn't work if the workers are lazy. They'll adapt to the gruel and hair on cardboard sandwiches.

RegDwighт

I think Cerberus holds the record for using the word silly.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Haha, the hair?

Matt Эллен

4:45 PM

@Cerberus high in protein!

Robusto

@MattЭллен: Have it your way: "information that the reports can work from off of." — Robusto 13 secs ago

Cerberus

@RegDwighт I must, for 'tis the best thing to rile up Mr S.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. plugs ears

RegDwighт

I should of told @Matt that Rob would tell him off.

Matt Эллен

lol

Robusto

4:46 PM

I told him from off of.

Cerberus

faints

RegDwighт

I was litoteing.

For the sake of clarity.

For once.

Robusto

Toileting.

@RegDwighт No force.

RegDwighт

That is me killing questions with fire, BTW.

Matt Эллен

nice

RegDwighт

4:48 PM

I will resume after muting some commies.

Aureservoir.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus How is me not understanding you equated to "riled up"?

Cerberus

If it weren't, you wouldn't ask this!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

That makes no sense

Cerberus

Sorry, I don't feel contentious enough to engage in another discussion.

Robusto

@RegDwighт Fake city, shot for real.

Ha, anagrammed 'em all.

@Cerberus Sounds like iron-poor blood. Or lack of amphetamines.

ChairOTP

4:52 PM

Anemia?

Matt Эллен

toodles!

ChairOTP

5:05 PM

I gotta get going, see you!

Cerberus

@Robusto Hmm food...

Bye guys!

KitFox

6:16 PM

@RegDwighт I have a question for you. Does "Эй кореш, русский, ты в порядке?" convey a sense of a NNS Russian speaker asking a friend if he is uninjured?

Cerberus

It's good that you are researching your foreign dialogue so well.

It really sucks when people use a foreign language incorrectly in a novel where it is not intended.

Or anywhere where there is enough of an opportunity to research and come up with something that is correct.

Matt Эллен

maar Engels is zo moeilijk te vertalen in het Nederlands

KitFox

I don't know how many Russian speakers will read this story, but it's important to me to get it right.

Mijn Nederlands is perfect understandishable

Cerberus

@MattЭллен ! Not bad. I wouldn't use in there.

@KitFox Perfect.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus I see. Google's still got some learning to do!

Cerberus

6:25 PM

Of course.

But it is more than good enough for the letter of a Nigerian prince.

Matt Эллен

lol

Cerberus

I mean, for a letter from my "bank".

Because the Nigerian prince would write in bad English.

It shouldn't look too good.

KitFox

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Q: With "to+infinitive" & without it

Honestly, I am having a problem of writing sentence pattern with "to + infinitive". Long ago I heard that in a sentence there should not be two verbs, but I feel If I write it as bellow, then that rule might violate by me.. Any clarification on sentence (1) without to + infinitive and (2) with to...

Cerberus

Because he's not English.

KitFox

Please help this user.

I have to fix codez.

I should mention that I'm pretty sure it's a dupe.

Robusto

7:06 PM

Hey, you're the janitor. We only make the messes, we don't clean them up.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox did you write all of Spider (like, all of the drafts) while you were sick?

404

Q: Proper use cases for Android UserManager.isUserAGoat()

I was looking at the new APIs introduced in Android4.2. While looking at the UserManager class I came across the following method : public boolean isUserAGoat () Used to determine whether the user making this call is subject to teleportations. Returns whether the user making this cal...

android

KitFox

@cornbreadninja I don't remember. Why do you ask?

cornbread ninja

@KitFox I remember you posting a draft when you were sick.

I think I was wondering in the interest of whether you had larger time chunks for writing when you were sick.

KitFox

I do have more time for writing when I'm sick. Sort of.

Usually I should be sleeping.

That was my last Russian story. This story is not really a Russian story. Not at all a Russian story.

cornbread ninja

which? do I need to read the transcript?

your nanowrimo story?

I tried the speed test yesterday.

KitFox

7:18 PM

Yeah, the Nanowrimo story.

You tried the speed test? Cool.

How did you do?

cornbread ninja

opens document

628 words

oh yeah, I fixed a Leapster2 yesterday

KitFox

Neat.

Matt Эллен

sex advice

cornbread ninja

those things have a secret calibration tool

KitFox

Good to know. My son has a regular Leapster, I think.

@MattЭллен It's not very good sex advice.

looks concerned for @Matt's education

Matt Эллен

7:28 PM

oh noe! it's the book I've been following my whole life

KitFox

And I think you could probably write better Seussian rhymes.

user19161

@MattЭллен My advice is that there need not be any advice for sex. QED.

KitFox

Now that's not very good advice either.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox Thanks! I was thinking it could be a bit better in that department, too

cornbread ninja

follow dan savage's advice: be good, giving, and game

(I think that's dan savage's advice)

KitFox

7:30 PM

Yep.

user19161

The words of the master are too deep for you guys...

KitFox

He's a smart man, that Dan. I wrote to him just last week to say "w00t! Go Maine."

And he wrote back to say thanks for the win.

user19161

I have actually emailed various people with regard to the stuff they post online, some wrote back, some did not.

user19161

It is getting cold enough here to shiver sometimes, which is a good thing.

cornbread ninja

@WillHunting I see you shiver with antici . . .

. . . pation.

KitFox

7:34 PM

Damn. I didn't notice fast enough to tween.

cornbread ninja

I should have let more time go by.

as time goes by . . .

user19161

@cornbreadninja I am thinking if there is some more subtle pun there, but I think there is none.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting how cold is it?

user19161

@MattЭллен I don't know, it's just at night or when I take a shower. Or maybe on a day when it rains and the cold wind blows.

Matt Эллен

You're so far south, I figured you'd stay around 293 K

cornbread ninja

7:36 PM

I have to go get my retainers checked.

Matt Эллен

are you about to break loose?

KitFox

I need new lenses in my glasses. Want to go together?

user19161

@cornbreadninja OK, just hope you don't have to put on the braces again.

cornbread ninja

yes.

user19161

@MattЭллен The use of kelvins is pretentious! By the way, I just learnt that negative kelvins can be attained.

Matt Эллен

7:38 PM

@WillHunting since Kelvin is absolute it doesn't need a degrees sign, so is easier to write :D

user19161

I feel that something big is going to happen this year...

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting negative! that's surprising. have they found a new absolute zero?

KitFox

That reminds me of my fondness for the triple point.

Matt Эллен

I have a fondness of the tipple point

KitFox

@MattЭллен It's when molecules start moving backward in time.

user19161

7:40 PM

@MattЭллен I don't know, someone showed me some link in the other room. It has been so for quite long.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox for reals?

KitFox

No, I'm totally making that up.

Matt Эллен

oh :D

KitFox

I can't imagine how else you could have negative K.

user19161

We can ask Ron Maimon about it. I admire him.

user19161

7:41 PM

I hope he comes to chat so that I can talk to him.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox true.

KitFox

@WillHunting You want me to ping him for you?

user19161

@KitFox Nah, that was not too serious, though it is not fake either.

user19161

I suspect Ron is a nutcase too, like me.

Carlo_R.

Hello everyone. Will, yes, negative kelvins can be attained, but only in subatomic proces. If you are in that case, then you see how boson go from the future to the past.

user19161

7:45 PM

@Carlo_R. Amazing, Carlo is a genius!

Carlo_R.

Thank you Will, I hope to win the Nobel.

But, before I have to learn English.

user19161

@Carlo_R. Really? I don't think I can win the Fields medal anymore, though I hope to solve one of the millennium problems.

Carlo_R.

Sorry, Will, but for demonstrantig that you need of an accelerator extended from the earth to alpha centaury.

And, obviously, of a great quontity of energy.

But, there is a risk. If we create that phenomenon a micro black hole can born and this can eat the earth.

user19161

@Carlo_R. Can we go back in time? I would like to go back to the past to change things.

Carlo_R.

Sorry Will, Hawking has demonstrated that that it is not possible.

But in subatomic process that can happen.

In the sense that we describe that as a voyage to the past.

But you can go in the future, Hawking said.

user19161

7:59 PM

@Carlo_R. Yes, that is what I vaguely remember when I still had interest in physics.

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