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its_me
its_me
12:00 PM
@RegDwighт :D It's some workbook I found at a store
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Okay. If they want you to practice gerunds, that's more straightforward.
 
its_me
its_me
Okay. One question - Is there nothing wrong with Peter and Paul have gone to church worshipping.? or should I add a for to make it grammatically correct.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
It doesn't match the original sentence.
Simply worshipping is a present participle, meaning that they were worshipping on the way to church.
 
its_me
its_me
@RegDwighт It doesnt have to. I just need to remove the to and make sure that the sentence is still meaningful
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
If they went to the church to worship there, then they went to the church for worshipping.
 
its_me
its_me
12:04 PM
@RegDwighт Ah, that'd be stupid and wrong. So, I guess it should be Peter and Paul have gone to church for worshipping.
okay
 
KitFox
KitFox
But that sounds odd. I doubt a native speaker would say that.
 
its_me
its_me
So, how should it be?
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@KitFox That's my problem with all three alternatives.
 
its_me
its_me
what would you put it like?
 
KitFox
KitFox
@RegDwighт Yeah, I can see why.
@its_me Peter and Paul have gone to church to worship.
 
its_me
its_me
12:05 PM
@KitFox I need to remove the to that's what the exercise is all about.
 
KitFox
KitFox
I understand that. I don't understand why.
Peter and Paul will worship at church.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Nobody worships anymore anyway. What is this, a religion book or a grammar book?
 
its_me
its_me
Nope, I am supposed to change the sentence that drastically.
I am *NOT* supposed...
 
KitFox
KitFox
Right, which brings us back to the why? part.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
You can edit your stuff here. Hit the up arrow key.
 
its_me
its_me
12:07 PM
@KitFox I need to keep the modifications as simple as possible. For example: Thomas has learned to swim. becomes Thomas has learned swimming.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@KitFox because nobody goes to Burger King to eat there; everybody goes to Burger King for eating. It's so obvious!
 
KitFox
KitFox
Huh. Why didn't his "not" italicize?
 
its_me
its_me
@RegDwighт dunno, it didn't work for sometime...
 
KitFox
KitFox
It makes me wonder just how awful our exercises were when I was learning a new language.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Très.
 
its_me
its_me
12:09 PM
Okay, is for worshipping right? I am a bit confused after all this.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Morning, by the way.
@its_me Yes.
 
its_me
its_me
Great, thanks!
exercise (a stupid one) completed!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@its_me It is acceptable grammatically, but I would say it has the opposite meaning to what you want. Compare it to "The tomatoes were grown for eating"
the tomatoes are not going to eat, they are going to be eaten
 
its_me
its_me
@MattЭллен true
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
If something is for X then that is what it is for not what it will do
 
its_me
its_me
12:15 PM
:6674365 So, if I say, Peter and Paul have gone to church for worshipping. does it mean they are going 'to be worshipped' at the church?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
that is a possible, literal interpretation. luckily people are not often worshipped at church, so it is less likely to be interpreted that way.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Hi.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
hello!
 
its_me
its_me
I didnt know that 0_0
hello!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@DavidWallace I think I explained the countable v. uncountable soup thing well enough.
@DavidWallace With ellipsis, anything's possible. That said, I'm not too haooy with "despite that": I would just just "(al)though" there.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
12:18 PM
haooy?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Peter and Paul are unfortunate examples...
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
God is in church for worshipping
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
So are Peter and Paul, usually. But they aren't going anywhere.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
:D
and Matt, Mark, Luke and John...
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Especially Matt.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
12:19 PM
lol
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
So what happened to the new-worlders?
All blown away?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
by the hurricane? Possibly. Kit was whisked in and out of EL&U it seems
 
tchrist
tchrist
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Tchrist has moved to Egypt and is not experiencing any problems.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@MattЭллен That's what happens when you're small.
@RegDwighт This reminds me of the pyramid of Mumm-Rha.
Do you know the Thundercats?
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
12:24 PM
Mmmmmh.... Ra.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Do you?
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
I don't know if I do.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@MattЭллен What? I'm right here.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Do you ever watch television?
 
KitFox
KitFox
The winds haven't started yet.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
12:24 PM
@Cerberus no, I only listen to it.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Will they reach you?
@RegDwighт You should really brush up on your pop culture.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@KitFox so you are! it's a fair wind that carries you to us, then
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
It was the best super-hero series of the late eighties! I absolutely loved it when I was 8 or so.
 
tchrist
tchrist
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
lol
 
KitFox
KitFox
12:25 PM
Amen Amun.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
And in 2011, a new Thundercats series was made, which is even much better, and more mature.
 
KitFox
KitFox
More mature is not better!
 
tchrist
tchrist
Tell that to your nearest senior citizen.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
The only thing is it has certain very stupid Asian plot lines and facial expressions. But the bulk is still good.
@KitFox Not always, no. But here, it is!
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Stupidity in bulk. Sounds nice.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
12:27 PM
stillgood adj. — the property of being edible after being on the floor for a few seconds
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Hahaha.
 
tchrist
tchrist
The glyph is wrong: the moon is full.
But apart from that, it shall a pleasant day be.
Shorts and sandals.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@MattЭллен that reminds me of a very dirty and possibly discriminating-against-Turks joke a Turkish friend once told me.
 
tchrist
tchrist
prepares to islamocensor
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@RegDwighт how did it go?
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
12:29 PM
I'm not sure I should tell. I'd have to first translate from German, too.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
oh. the humour might get lost in translation
lunches
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
 
Robusto
Robusto
We have a hurricane day today. My office is closed. I hope I don't lose power at home.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus Awww
 
Robusto
Robusto
-1
A: Slight difference in the meaning I cannot understand

gordafaridFrom my humble point of view it looks like two stages of a process: reflection validation

Haha. Looks like someone is trying to apply computing terms to documentation — and failing.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
12:36 PM
@MattЭллен So a fat Turkish woman is taking out the garbage, and for reasons unexplained she reaches really deep into the trash bin and gets stuck and can't get out. That's the setup. God this is really an awful joke.
Anyway, a Turkish man happens to walk by and he sees the woman and sure enough he lifts her skirt and takes her from behind. Did I mention that my Turkish friend told me the joke in like eighth grade?
 
tchrist
tchrist
The hurricane is just an excuse for the the Chicken Littles of the news media’s infotainment to crow a bit louder.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Cerberus Those look like my old kitties.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
So anyway, the husband happens to look out of the window and shouts, "What the hell is going on!?" To which the evildoer responds, "Why you throw wife away? Is still good!"
 
KitFox
KitFox
laughs
We have that joke in English too.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Oh. Is that so?
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:37 PM
Yep.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
I'm a bit relieved, then.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@KitFox Aww.
 
tchrist
tchrist
So is the evildoer.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@RegDwighт Haha, nice.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Are Turks the underclass in Deutschland?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
12:38 PM
Upper underclass here.
 
KitFox
KitFox
I haven't seen our cat for almost a week. I am hoping that someone took her in, thinking she was a stray.
 
tchrist
tchrist
I am very sorry to hear that.
Do you like in an urban environment?
Or a pastoral one?
 
user19161
I see that @kit has changed back into the old fox.
 
KitFox
KitFox
Not urban, but next to a state route with a lot of trucks.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@Robusto Sort of. There are enough Germans that belong to the same class or even below, but of course they can't be labeled quite as easily, while Turkish citizenship is a very convenient label.
@Cerberus yeah, that.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
12:39 PM
@KitFox She will be back!
 
tchrist
tchrist
Usually cats hear trucks coming a long ways off and stay clear, but if they are moving very fast, perhaps not. But you would know.
 
KitFox
KitFox
I haven't seen any smooshed kitties on the road lately.
 
tchrist
tchrist
What I meant, yes.
 
KitFox
KitFox
She doesn't much wear her collar, and she's very friendly.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@RegDwighт We do have a fair number of Turks in parliament now, and we've had Turkish ministers too.
You?
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:40 PM
@RegDwighт Germany has no trailer trash?
 
user19161
I often see crushed snails after a rainy day.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@Cerberus sure.
@tchrist it does, but not in trailers.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
OK.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@KitFox Is she chipped?
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
The folks in trailers are actually rather nice and not the poorest.
 
KitFox
KitFox
12:40 PM
@tchrist No.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@RegDwighт Don't you have gypsies?
 
user19161
Why are these snails made to be stepped on when they come out from the ground?
 
Robusto
Robusto
Don't the Brits call those people tinkers?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
We have several kinds of people who live in trailer parks, all lower lower-class.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@Cerberus we used to have more. Where I live, that is. But other places the figures are rising. Looks like they are sticking to Berlin. Or Rome, for that matter.
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:41 PM
@RegDwighт It is tidier to restrict one’s trash to one’s trailers lest it blow around in a very unGermanly untidy way and get in everybody’s way by making an eyesore of itself.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@RegDwighт Really? We don't have them around cities.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Robusto I am unclear on gypsies vs travellers vs tinkers.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@Cerberus what do they live off of?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Well...
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Here it's begging.-
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
12:42 PM
One hears things.
 
user19161
@RegDwighт Hmm, off of is a very interesting construction.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
Makes no sense to beg in the woods or open field.
Cities are where it's at.
Not to mention stealing.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Begging, really?
We don't really have begging, except by junkies.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@JasperLoy They’re used for fuel.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
And rarely.
 
Robusto
Robusto
12:43 PM
@Cerberus Stealing is just begging by force.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
You never been to Berlin? Or Rome? Come on. Begging is ubiquitous.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Don’t feed the beggars. They might follow you home.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
But again, around these parts most if not all beggars are German hobos or punks.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Here people in trailer parks are conventionally said to live off unemployment and other benefits, stealing, and growing cannabis. I have no idea what they actually do.
 
Robusto
Robusto
A former colleague of mine insisted that "busking" wasn't begging, because he used to earn a living (?) that way. But it is begging.
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:44 PM
Hobo is such a prosaic word for bum.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@tchrist yes I saw the South Park episode you must have cowritten.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@tchrist We used to call them panhandlers.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Robusto Nuh-uh. Busking is a legitimate profession.
You can tell because they regulate it.
 
user19161
If a man has no food or money, I think he is allowed to steal what he needs.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@RegDwighт Remember that South Park is written by Boulderites. We know whereof we speak.
 
Robusto
Robusto
12:45 PM
@KitFox It's trying to get people to give you money by annoying them with out-of-tune music you don't want to hear. Usually.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Cerberus You must have watched Trailer Park Boys.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@JasperLoy I feel a parable coming on.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@RegDwighт In southern and easter Europe, yes. I have never been to Berlin. Here we don't have that much begging. I think it has become less over the years.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@Robusto I don't see how that makes it not legitimate.
 
user19161
@tchrist That's the end of the parable. Short and sweet.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
12:46 PM
Busking is very heavily regulated in cities such as Munich. They have an entire branch of bureaucracy built around it. Complete with a dedicated government agency.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Moreover, just where do you think South Park is, anyway?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@KitFox Alas, no.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@tchrist L.A.?
 
user19161
Buskers must display a licence here.
 
user19161
However no basking is allowed.
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:46 PM
Pearl Street Mall is one of only places where buskers roam fairly unrestrained.
Fairplay, Colorado
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Cerberus
Cerberus
@RegDwighт We have an agency for everything, including begging, busking, prostitution, selling drugs, and, most importantly, painting your window frame in the wrong shade of green.
 
KitFox
KitFox
@tchrist So yes?
 
tchrist
tchrist
It’s at 10,000 feet.
Not LA.
 
KitFox
KitFox
So definitely LA.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Hey, looks like we have a new government!
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
12:47 PM
@tchrist yes, how is that a contradiction to what I said. You must have cowritten the episode, I said. If anything you've provided evidence that you in fact did.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus We call the latter an HOA.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Which is...
 
tchrist
tchrist
But our rhoticity prevents the obvious rhyme.
 
user19161
I think begging is fine as long as people don't tell lies.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Home-Owner Association, the Keeper of the Covenants.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
12:49 PM
Ho? Whore?
 
tchrist
tchrist
They get on your case about your choice of color, etc.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
HOA one through nine are pointless. HOA X is where it's at.
 
user19161
Many beggars here tell all sorts of lies. If one is truly desperate, one need not resort to lies, so these are probably non-desperate cheats.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist Oh, puh-lease. We have those on top of the government agencies!
 
tchrist
tchrist
Or that your gate is made of metal not wood.
 
KitFox
KitFox
12:49 PM
@Cerberus Hoa is how we'd say it hereabouts.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Funny spelling.
@tchrist Time to switch, then!
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
@JasperLoy there are a couple professional beggars who drive in BMWs all across Germany, begging in a different city every day, sleeping in three-star hotels.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Government usually only gets involved for public areas. Like Sante Fe has rules about its overall architecture, so even MacDonald’s is adobied there.
 
user19161
@RegDwighт Geezis, I think I should join them soon.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@JasperLoy You would murder more snails with your car than your feet. Consider the kharma.
 
user19161
12:51 PM
By the way, I find the decoration of the three-star hotels here better than the five-star ones.
 
user19161
The former feels cosy and the latter otherwise.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist Haha, adobied.
 
tchrist
tchrist
I wondered whether that would stick to anybody.
 
KitFox
KitFox
The Freeport, ME McDonald's is quaintified by decree, so it doesn't upset the tourists.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Well, you can be sure every single McDonalds is regulated to look exactly the way local government wants it.
 
user19161
12:52 PM
@tchrist I have only seen it spelled as karma (Sanskrit) or kamma (Pali).
 
Robusto
Robusto
@KitFox I didn't say it wasn't legitimate. Begging is legitimate, but still annoying.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Every branch in every country has the slogan "I'm loving it" in various languages.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
In most cities, that means buildings in the old quarters need to have the exact same shades of green and white as 400 years ago.
@JasperLoy Hideous. But then, it's fast-food.
 
user19161
@Cerberus Shades? Only tchrist is good at shades. He names colours more than the rest of us.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I see Nortonn S is back.
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:54 PM
The MacDonald’s up ’round the northwest end of Gitche Gumee is made of the most splendid amethyst quartz that ever met the eye.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
He was never gone.
 
user19161
@Cerberus I think the best burgers are MOS Burger ones, though they don't have branches in your parts of the world.
 
RegDwighт
RegDwighт
I merge him first thing in the morning, every morning.
 
tchrist
tchrist
It is the most delightful lavender.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Perhaps I merely managed to not notice him.
 
user19161
12:55 PM
It is not possible to tell if Nortonn is male, female, both or neither.
 
tchrist
tchrist
A fine color for provender.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@JasperLoy Nope, I only heard of that from you.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@RegDwighт ah! quite cringe-y :D
 
user19161
In fact, Nortonn might not be a person but an automated script.
 
user19161
This script creates new emails and posts periodically.
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:56 PM
@JasperLoy Et tu?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Robusto come and see the buskers in Oxford. They draw crowds. Admittedly I am sick of them. Mostly because the crowds are in the way and I just want to walk down the damn street.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@MattЭллен See? Annoying.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Robusto :D true!
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Is it true that there are many gays in Oxford?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@JasperLoy uh, I've never counted. It's not a homophobic city.
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:58 PM
Boulder’s Pearl Street is a haven for buskers. You only need a permit for doing dangerous things, like spinning fire and the like.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I don't have "gaydar" so I can't tell people's sexuality from looking.
 
tchrist
tchrist
There are regulars, some of whom are really Very Good.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
WAAAHH
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@JasperLoy Hint: there are many gays everywhere. It's part of the gay agenda: they are infiltrating society, sneaking around, taking our jobs and our men.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
The largest Apple product ever was launched yesterday!!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
12:59 PM
@Cerberus Made of aluminum!
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Steven Jobs and Philippe Stark designed it, purportedly.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
the iYacht?
 
user19161
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 And also women. Some of them get married to have their own families. =)
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Atrocious.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Is it?
 
tchrist
tchrist
Who launched it?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
12:59 PM
@JasperLoy The sneaky ones
 
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