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Tom
2:00 PM
Just ignore me if I ask too much. Anyway, if one has written a paragraph highlighting a number of key points and one wants to summarize it as a recap (but it is not really a conclusion). Is it formal to say, "All in all, bla bla is so and so."
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@Tom: You should probably use a more specific term if it fits better with the concept you are dealing with in this scientific paper; if not, use money. Currency and liquidity are different things.
 
Favorite recent expression "lucked up" [poker term] slang, meaning someone got lucky and won a hand even after making a mistake (cf. "fucked up" meaning made a mistake).
 
Tom
@Cerberus I realize that now, I'm talking about the general "money" thing, so I'll stick with money. Thanks again :)
 
I have two hands; does that mean I am lucky twice?
 
Only if your hands beat our hands.
 
2:01 PM
All in all sounds slightly informal to me, but acceptable as long as the rest of the article isn't very formal. I'd probably use something like "in summary" or "to summarize". Or "in short": that might be a good middle-of-the-road word.
 
I always clap; does that mean anything (apart that I could be in an asylum)?
 
"All things considered", "The bottom line is".
 
Tom
Great suggestions, thanks!
 
Yes those sound fine to my sixfold (threefold?) ears.
 
"If you can clap your hands..."
 
2:04 PM
... then you have at least two of them?
 
@Cerberus Aren't those "sixfold bears?"
 
Well, a wiser fellow than myself once said, sometimes you eat the bear. And much obliged, sometimes the bear, well, he eats you.
 
Well, "fold" seems to suggest multiplication? If the base number of ears is two, shouldn't the multiplication be threefold?
 
@RegDwight I don't have two claps.
The base number always is 10.
 
Hey I am glad those stupid fake starred lines have been removed.
10? Meh...
 
2:06 PM
Fake? Starred?
 
Yes!
Some had starred a lot of not-so-star-worthy lines.
 
It depends on which stars you are talking of.
 
The ones to the right of this very line.
 
Oh, I thought you were talking of movie stars.
 
I know nothing of movie stars!
 
2:08 PM
Now the line moved. Should I move the stars too?
 
The stars move by themselves.
Or perhaps the gods move them.
 
They don't.
 
But they do! Aristotle said so.
I mean, The Philosopher.
 
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A: What does the word 'dicta' ('dita'?) mean in the song 'Who's That Chick?'?

Byron Shelley Injeeliit said "dita" in the music video. why the hell couldnt they just make it "Dicta" as in dictator. "dita" doesnt mean anything. Byron Shelley Injeeli

 
Are we back to when they said Sun moved around Earth?
Oh well, I cannot flag it.
 
2:10 PM
Ugh popular culture and weird bolding.
It is time I left... be back later, bye!
 
@RegDwight I was going to flag the answer, but I could not.
@Cerberus There is always time left.
 
Tom
I caught myself using "may" a lot in an essay where I am trying to prove that something "may" happen (aka, I am not saying that it always has to be the case).

Eg.: Consumers may be inclined to ....
I wonder if there is any way to avoid using may but still say that it is not definite
So much that I seem to be using it in 3 sentences after each other
Three consecutive sentences (just wanted to use that word).
 
Just rewrite to use different constructions.
 
Funtastic. Now the chat doesn't work too.
 
Tom
It seems to work
 
2:14 PM
Maybe my PC went slow.
JavaScript on SE doesn't work with Safari too.
 
It's been very iffy for me too, today.
 
"Would you like to swim on a star..." Wait, that is very wouldy.
 
Tom
Is "allurement" a pretty alternative for "temptation"?
Maybe temptation is formal, it feels informal though due to all those classy TV shows like "Temptation Island"
 
@Tom: "allurement" sounds rather odd.
 
Tom
@Rhodri ah alright, simply temptation then
or enticement?
 
2:27 PM
@Tom That sounds better. It's nice to entice :-)
 
Tom
Great :)
I'm struggling with propositions as well... eg. "This increase in attractiveness to save ..." or "This increase of attractiveness to save ..."
I feel like English is simple to learn but difficult to master
But maybe it's like that for any language
 
Well, prepositions are the final boss of any language (that has them).
 
Tom
@RegDwight I see, would you say in or of in this case (or something else) ?
 
I dunno. Both "increase in" and "increase of" are grammatical, but they have a different feel.
I would probably go with "in" in this case, without further context.
I mean, I'm not even sure what the sentence is.
 
Tom
@RegDwight alright. I am afraid to paste the whole sentence as it may very well get noticed by plagiarism detectors, causing me to get sanctioned for copying my own essay.
 
2:35 PM
Whoa, you have that level of AI where you live?
 
Tom
@RegDwight that is like the simplest technique though, you just automate a google search
 
@Tom Ain't that verboten per their ToS?
 
Tom
@RegDwight true, I'm sure that the web is searched though.. but that is a whole different topic :)
I can imagine why SE never added private conversations, as there are some really important people around here who'd just get spammed, but it's a real shame in some cases :)
 
2:52 PM
@RegDwight You can do it for scholarly purposes if you use their university research program.
 
Oh hai Kosmo.
 
Moin moin
 
@Kosmonaut Stupid me navigated himself into a cul-de-sac with this one:
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Q: Different grades of friendship in English

AndreyIn English there is only one word for grade of friendship: friends. All of you agree that friends are different: with some of them you just drank beer few times, other you know for many years and you build strong bonds to them. There should be different words for that! In Russian there are three...

 
Tom
@Kosmonaut google has a university research program? Interesting..
 
I would very much like to throw out everything Russian-related from that question.
 
2:55 PM
@Tom Yes. I am enrolled in it.
@RegDwight That is what I was thinking.
You can just take that section out of the question and have an ok question.
 
It's just that I can't comment to that extent, because after my tangentially related argument with the OP it would look like retaliation.
 
So, @Kosmonaut, are there jobs for people with linguistics degrees outside of academia? Do the creators of speech-recognition software use that discipline?
 
@Robusto Yeah, there are jobs for that, but usually more for people with some sort of computational linguistics degree.
If you are pure theoretical linguistics, it is a lot tougher.
 
So computational linguistics has a degree program now?
That's very interesting.
 
(Isn't "it is nice to etnice?")
 
3:01 PM
@Robusto Actually, I think they do have a specific computational linguistics program in places like Georgetown, but that isn't what I meant.
What I meant was, if you get your PhD and you do some sort of computational work as your thesis, then you're in good shape outside of academia.
 
@Robusto It's had a degree program for a while. ::buffs up 20+ year old M.Phil in Computer Speech and Language Processing::
 
Ah, OK.
The subject fascinates me.
 
If you are talking about just a bachelor's degree, I don't know if you can do much with a linguistics degree at all.
Except get into a PhD program.
 
Oh, JavaScript works again on EL&U. I knew that going to eat something would have resolved the problem.
 
I was thinking that a lot of work could be done to narrow down the processing of language to domain-specific contexts. The way chess programs trim the logic tree to concentrate on the most promising lines, that sort of thing.
That wouldn't work in all cases, of course, but it would make a lot of processing much faster.
Probably I'm talking about stuff that's already happened.
 
3:03 PM
"Tree pruning."
(Suddenly, I feel the need to eat a prune.)
 
@kiamlaluno — I prefer a more Christmas-ey metaphor, thank you very much.
 
@Robusto Well, those irritating dialog systems you get on the phone sometimes are exploiting domain-specific restrictions to work.
Or should I say, "work".
 
Yes ... much "work" remains to be done.
 
@Robusto Why? Don't you prune trees, for Christmas?
 
In those cases, I think they just don't care. They are not designed to communicate, but to insulate.
@kiamlaluno — We "trim" trees for Christmas. Trim meaning decorate.
 
3:06 PM
Speech recognition is dead as a Stalin.
 
They could more easily have touchtone controlled menus — I honestly think those who use voice-activated prompts are attempting to make things more pleasant.
 
But trim also means prune.
 
Ah-ah. That is my point.
 
@RegDwight You mean it is still being kept frozen for a triumphant return?
 
@Kosmonaut — I have a voice-activated audio system in my car, and it constantly gets things wrong. Its "best guess" is often so far off it's not even funny.
 
3:07 PM
@Kosmonaut Um, is Stalin kept frozen? That's news to me.
 
(I guess it's called "word play.")
 
Stalin's spirit still lives!
 
@Cerberus — If I weren't an atheist, I'd agree — in Hell.
 
@Rob: Even on Earth! Spirit taken metaphorically, of course. Take your favourite destination, Pyongyang.
 
3:08 PM
@Robusto Yeah, and as RegDwight was saying, we basically hit a wall with the technology.
 
A pity.
 
We use statistical prediction, which gets us really really far without having to actually parse any meaning out of the sentence.
But I guess to get that last 5%, the computer might have to actually understand things.
 
Yeah. And it was interesting to see how Watson, with its ginormous database lookup, would frequently misunderstand questions in a way that humans never would. Not often, but sometimes.
 
It's slightly alarming how little things have changed, given how many exciting research prospects there were back when I was studying it.
 
Have there been experiments with large-scale, semi-automatic "learning", by having thousands of volunteers or cheap labourers "recaptcha" endless amounts of spoken language?
 
3:11 PM
@Rhodri — It's just that many things have changed dramatically, just not the ones we expected to.
Where's my freakin' jet car???
 
@Rhodri Yeah, I was studying it right when it was peaking, around 2000. It seemed like we'd get there within a few years.
 
@Rob: I know right! And my teleporter.
 
"Few years" is a subjective concept.
 
Look at face recognition. Who would have predicted we'd have come so far with that. My iPhoto recognizes pictures of my kids when then they were little after having only seen their grown-up faces.
It's creepy almost.
 
And my "USS Enterprise!"
 
3:13 PM
@Cerberus If you use a general speech recognition system, you spend hours and hours in training sessions, training the software to the exact nuances of your voice only, and it STILL gets 1/20 words wrong.
 
Supposedly we will have a cure for color-blindness fairly soon, using gene-splicing and retrovirus therapy.
 
It's a doggy-dog world.
 
@Robusto Yes, and then at the same time, it will think some picture of a garbage can is a face
 
I remember the software which understood "tre a destra" when I was saying "chiudi finestra."
 
It's like what you said with Watson — it gets things wrong that no human would get wrong.
 
3:14 PM
@Kos: You mean there really aren't any patterns across different speakers that could be learnt by a computer by feeding millions of text-corresponding-to-speech bits to it?
 
@Cerberus: there are lots of patterns, but too many of them are too similar, and different accents slur things so much.
 
I am thinking of the computer's recognizing phrases, not words, assuming that words are too varying and contain too little information.
 
The computer is already not just recognizing individual words.
 
@Kosmonaut — Or a cloud.
But it's really much improved in those areas.
 
@Rhodri: Right, accents compound things even more. However, couldn't the computer recognize an accent and adjust its expectations ad hoc?
 
3:17 PM
It looks at the statistical likelihood of strings of words, AND the statistical likelihood of strings of phonemes, and everything.
 
@Kos: Right, that's why I was thinking of feeding it phrases.
 
Tom
can one say.. "... when bank reserves go shallow." rather than "empty"?
 
Low.
 
@Cerberus By "strings of words" I mean phrases.
 
Tom
Heh. Alright. ^^
but a reserve is like a pool right?
does a pool go "low"?
 
3:18 PM
@Kos: I know, I was sort of agreeing, hehe.
 
These systems also have all phoneme transitions, rather than just the phonemes, so you have every two- or even three-phoneme combination in the database
 
@Tom: Actually I'm not so sure about financial jargon... my first idea would be low, but it is probably best to stick with convention if such exists.
 
Tom
I'll stick with empty I guess
 
@Tom You could say "run dry"
 
@Kos: Right, transitions would seem important (unreleased geminated t, anyone?).
 
Tom
3:21 PM
@Kosmonaut that's what I was looking for, great.
 
I remember when my professor got his hands on speech recognition software and trained it a while and wanted to show it to me:
 
@Kos: But how did this system acquire its knowledge of those phonemes? Were they fed to it once, by hand?
 
"[The scientists] synthesized three simultaneous wavering tones. Physically, the sound was nothing at all like speech, but the tones followed the same contours as the bands of energy in the sentence 'Where were you a year ago?' Volunteers described what they heard as 'science fiction sounds' or 'computer bleeps'.
"A second group of volunteers was told that the sounds had been generated by a bad speech synthesizer. They were able to make out many of the words, and a quarter of them could write down the sentence perfectly. The brain can hear speech content in sounds that have only the remotest resemblance to speech. Indeed, sine-wave speech is how mynah birds fool us. They have a valve on each bronchial tube and can control them independently, producing two wavering tones which we hear as speech."
 
He said "Das ist ein Test" and it wrote "Rassisten Test".
 
The human mind demands to make sense out of random data.
It sees patterns where none exist. That is well documented.
 
3:23 PM
Well, the first group didn't see a pattern.
 
@Cerberus The system builds a complex Bayesian network of statistical information based on these phonemes and phoneme transitions.
 
@Reg: Interesting. That is why I was wondering whether the thresholds of what make speech intelligible could be learnt by a computer by feeding it endless streams of input.
 
@Cerberus I could be wrong, but I honestly think we reached the limits of the level of recognition we can get from doing that.
 
@Kos: Okay, but if its only input is what scientists fed it by hand, perhaps lots of input could make a difference. Patterns could emerge that scientists hadn't thought of; perhaps the computer shouldn't be using the concept of phonemes so much, who knows?
 
@Cerberus That is my point. They aren't using phonemes if they use all the transitions and globs of speech.
It's not that patterns emerge that scientists hadn't thought of, it's that the computer can't sort out the ambiguity.
 
3:27 PM
"Our brains can flip between hearing something as a bleep and hearing it as a word because phonetic perception is like a sixth sense. When we listen to speech the actual sounds go in one ear and out of the other; what we perceive is language. Our experience of words and syllables, of the "b"-ness of b and the "ee"-ness of ee is as separable from our experience of pitch and loudness as lyrics are from a score.
 
Tom
Doesn't language recognition have more to do with statistical areas such as pattern recognition? As well as computer vision related studies maybe..
 
"Sometimes, as win sine-wave speech, the senses of hearing and phonetics compete over which gets to interpret a sound, and our perception jumps back and forth. Sometimes the two sense simultaneously interpret a single sound.
"If one takes a tape recording of da, electronically removes the initial chriplike portion that distinguishes the da from ga and ka, and plays the chirp to one ear and the residue to the other, what people hear is a chirp in one ear and da in the other—a single clip of sound is perceived simultaneously as d-ness and a chirp."
 
@Kos: I meant that perhaps the computer shouldn't be thinking in terms of phonemes, phoneme transitions, or whatever categories scientists throw at it at all (not saying that would work, but it might be worth a try to give the computer nothing but spectral diagrams and corresponding bits of text; who knows...).
 
@Cerberus: I am quoting this from Pinker, BTW.
 
@Cerberus Are you talking about part-of-speech tagging?
 
3:31 PM
@Kos: No, not at all: I was thinking of no tagging at all, except that the sound of a spoken sentence is tagged with the same sentence in written text. Or perhaps entire paragraphs would be better.
 
Or are you just talking about taking spectrograms of millions of monologs along with corresponding text?
 
That.
 
@Cerberus Have you ever tried to really transcribe spontaneous spoken language? It's actually really hard.
It is open to a lot of interpretation.
 
Tom
Wow, the up arrow is great. Awesome, actually.
 
@Tom: isn't it just!
 
3:32 PM
@Kos: True. Some choices would have to be made. But do you think nothing could come out of that?
 
@Cerberus: I don't think you're getting just how big that "some" is.
 
@Tom: Star the line too, then: the more stars it has, the longer it will stay up.
 
Tom
@Cerberus I just did :)
 
@Rhodri: They might be big; but even if the computer would make one of the choices that we found acceptable, it would be huge progress.
@Tom: Yay.
 
@Cerberus I don't see how transcribing using English orthography is somehow better than transcribing using IPA.
 
3:35 PM
@Kosmonaut — This is very true. When I was first learning Japanese I would get tapes of Japanese TV shows, and it was amazing how many sentences I couldn't parse even after listening to them over and over again. Then I got to a point where I would filter out most of the nonessential sounds and focus on overall meaning, then work back inwards to interpret those sounds from the standpoint of clarifying a general meaning. I think that's how we interpret our own language, BTW.
 
@Reg: That da experiment is a great example of how much work the brain does in creating our interpretation of sounds and language, as opposed to the ear.
 
@Robusto I think that is probably true.
 
@Kos: It is worse, but much easier to be delegated to 10k people who want to make some easy money.
@Rob: That might be the Wall. But even so there might be some Holes...
 
@Cerberus I don't know if you know how much worse it is, and how much work you would have to do to make these usable.
 
@Kos: I was thinking of something like Recaptcha.
 
3:38 PM
@Robusto I'm having similar fun watching videos of sign language conversations and trying to filter the "noise" to get at the underlying signs. It's surprisingly hard if you don't know the signer.
 
What would it do?
 
We start with a general context for what people are saying, then we go to our memory of what has been said in similar situations, adding in what we know of the speech patterns of individuals or groups, then we focus on major verbs and nouns that we can hear, and then fill in the rest. It's all done in post-processing, but it happens very quickly (for native speakers).
For beginning learners, it's virtually impossible because they have been learning a language word by word, and expect to hear and understand individual words.
 
We should keep an eye on this one:
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Q: The use of is instead of are.

AlanIn the office, we've been having a discussion about the grammar in a sentence and have differing opinions about what is right and what is wrong... It is a very minor issue but is still bugging me :) The sentence in question is "a wide range of features is available" which sounds more natural to ...

Lots and lots of prescriptivism.
 
@Robusto One anecdote related to that. One German friend of mine told me about a colleague who was American but spoke rather good German (although he was clearly not native). He said that one day, the American wrote him an email, and he realized that the American was just absolutely horrible at getting the right gender or case endings. He hadn't noticed that it was that bad before.
 
@Kos: People everywhere around the internet would be paid to transcribe a few sentences a time. That would result in a huge pool of raw material for the computer to work with. The hypothesis would be that lots of material might have unforeseen benefits.
 
3:43 PM
@Cerberus I'm not saying there couldn't be SOME way to do this, but again I think you are grossly underestimating how hard it is to accurately transcribe spoken language.
@RegDwight Erg.
 
@Kosmonaut — That's pretty funny. His ear filled in the right case and gender markers, or the American did a good job of slurring them. Or both.
 
@Kosmonaut Yeah. I don't want to fight another losing battle like here:
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Q: Is the following sentence grammatically correct? It doesn't sound right.

Paul Possible Duplicates: “A total of 10 babies is sleeping.” v.s. “A total of 10 babies are sleeping.” v.s. “Ten babies in total are sleeping.” Is “a total of 10 payments” singular or plural? A total of 315 questionnaires was received fr...

 
Gah.
I don't know how to approach that.
 
@Kos: I have tried it once or twice, so I have an idea of how arbitrary some choices must be. I just don't think they would be so arbitrary as to be useless. But this experiment doesn't seem practicable now anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
 
@Kosmonaut — @RegDwight pointed me to a Paulaner beer commercial which had a Japanese guy ordering beer in Japanese. I got nearly everything right away, but there was a small section where he spoke so rapidly I couldn't parse the words, even on repeat listening. (Possibly the spot was also digitally time-compressed, which happens a lot these days.) But the important parts of the sentence were clear.
 
3:49 PM
@Cerberus It's an interesting idea, but I think we've done large-scale processing of this kind, just maybe not as huge as you are talking about. I think the problem is that it looks like the returns on this grow logarithmically. We are at the point where we are at 97% and with a huge amount of further effort we could squeeze it to 97.4%, or something like that.
But we can't get that last bit without something else besides statistics (at least with what we can do now).
 
Right, that is what I expected.
 
I just wonder how much syntax we hear we filter out completely.
 
@Robusto Not exactly what you are talking about, but there is a cool experiment about hearing spoken language with noise in the background.
 
Do tell.
 
We did the experiment in class; you hear this speech spoken with white noise interrupting every 1-2 seconds.
And you can understand it perfectly.
Then they play exactly the same audio but with silence where the white noise was.
You can't understand it at all.
Actually, maybe you play the white noise one first.
Either way, it is striking.
 
3:53 PM
Intriguing.
 
Why would white noise aid comprehension?
 
@Cerberus Pinker mentions that as well.
 
Somehow, our brains are finely tuned to process speech with noise.
 
So the white noise comes instead of the speech? You can't hear anything at all of the speech when the white noise is playing?
@Reg: You are a convincing evangelist!
 
@Cerberus Correct. There is the exact same amount of audible speech.
Broken up speech with silence is not something our brains ever had a need to process.
 
3:55 PM
@Kos: I expect that we should be able to learn to understand the speech-silence-speech too...
 
@Kosmonaut — Wow, that's pretty cool.
 
@Cerberus The difference is REALLY extreme.
I bet the experiment is on YouTube somewhere but I can't remember what it is called
 
It is a mystery how our brains are sometimes unable to perform the simplest tasks, tasks that they are able to perform perfectly fine with exactly the same materials at other times in different circumstances. Semantic satiation comes to mind.
 
I dunno how this is related, in fact it's like the exact opposite thing, but. I always find it striking how at parties or in crowds with many people talking at once, it's just noise, but if you look at the lips of any particular person, even if they are across the street/room, you can suddendly filter them out.
 
@Kos: Yes it is quite mysterious. Do they have any explanation specific to language? I'd expect this to be a more general phenomenon...
 
3:57 PM
@Cerberus I think it is more general, but part of our processing. It reminds me of the optical illusions where your brain will fill in blind spots.
 
I would bet that the duration of the white noise is easier to interpret than the duration of the absence of noise.
 
@Reg: It is hard to be sure whether you are just lip reading while hearing nothing intelligible at all, and imagining the speech, or you are really interpreting the faint bits of sound better that you can really hear.
@Kos: Right, optical illusions might very well be related.
 
@Cerberus I can't lip-read.
 
When there is white noise you know approximately how many words might have been said, but with a period of silence you are not expecting that to mean something.
 
@Cerberus I actually hear that person's voice.
 
3:58 PM
@Reg: I think we all can, to some degree.
@Reg: But of course it is possible that you are really hearing stuff.
 
@Robusto Yes, certainly it is something like that. The amazing thing is that the white noise isn't just on top of the speech, it replaces the speech in those portions. But when you hear it, you'd swear the noise was just on top of it.
 
That's remarkable.
 
It shows that the brain doesn't work as efficiently as it could, with regard to what modern life demands of it.
Oh I have to go. It has been interesting; later!
 
Go to go for a bit, be back later
 
Bye!
 
4:02 PM
Cya
 
Have fun (for suitable values of "fun")!
 
"The psychologist George Miller played tapes of sentences in background noise and asked people to repeat back exactly what they heard. Some of the sentences followed the rules of English syntax and made sense. [...] Others were created by scrambling the words within phrases to create colorless-green-ideas sentences, grammatical but nonsensical. [...]
"A third kind was created by scrambling the phrase structure but keeping related words together. [...] Finally, some sentences were utter word salad. [...] People did best with the grammatical sensible sentences, worse with the grammatical nonsense and the ungrammatical sense, and worst of all with the ungrammatical nonsense.
"A few years later the psychologist Richard Warren taped sentences like The state governors met with their respective legislatures convening in the capital city, excised the first s from legislatures, and spliced in a cough. Listeners could not tell that any sound was missing."
And now I gotta go, too. Laterz.
 
Wah, everybody's going to go have fun but me!
 
Tom
Is it "To satisfy the bank's need for extra liquidity." or "To satisfy the bank's need of extra liquidity." ?
And how can I learn this?
 
The former.
You can learn by reading a lot. It's the only way.
 
Tom
4:11 PM
@Robusto I was afraid so :[
 
True of any language.
 
Tom
Heh, here I'd have said: "True for any language."
Silly me.
 
That works too.
Also, you could arguably say, "True in any language" or "True about any language."
 
Tom
:)
Another one, is it "saving account commercials are likely to..." or "savings account commericals are likely to..." ?
or "saving accounts commercials.."
 
savings account commericals
Now I gotta go. TTYL.
 
Tom
4:24 PM
Alright, thanks again. :)
I'm quite happy, for my last 3 questions my initial thought was correct.
 
Tom
4:40 PM
Righto, I'm off. Thanks for the guidance folks. I will try to be here more often without leeching all this valuable (I almost did a "valueable" there!) info from you all =)
 
5:37 PM
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Q: What is the meaning behind: ''Mind your Ps and Q's" - how did it originate?

JustnBeaverI've heard mothers using this on the playground when talking to their children, but not sure what point they were trying to make to them?

 
I think all the mods are off enjoying themselves
 
5:56 PM
boo, then
who will maintain order? are we doomed to descend into anarchy?
 
6:22 PM
A hero emerges!
 
6:33 PM
@RegDwight: Isn't this a dupe?
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Q: Over- and underwhelmed, but never "whelmed?"

JYeltonWe've all been overwhelmed with work, or saw an underwhelming movie... but it occurred to me that I've never heard anyone use the root word, whelm. whelm (verb) 1. to submerge; engulf. 2. to overcome utterly; overwhelm: whelmed by misfortune. If whelm is "to overcome utterly," then why is it y...

 
@Robusto I don't remember a similar question. You got one?
I gotta go, actually. TTYL.
 
6:47 PM
Feels like we answered a question about words with no antonyms or something a long time ago.
 
F'x
I hate it when we get a omment like that under a question closed as off-topic
 
7:04 PM
Like which comment?
 
F'x
@F'x whatever, I do know the answer so I feel like I won. You people are just making it hard for everybody else. – IAdapter 3 hours ago
I pasted it, can't you see?
“@F'x whatever, I do know the answer so I feel like I won. You people are just making it hard for everybody else. – IAdapter 3 hours ago”
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Q: What does it mean to show reversed two fingers?

IAdapterI saw it in some british show and it looked to be offensive. Signs are part of language and I don't understand that one, please explain.

 
Now I see it.
I voted to delete the whole thing. Needs two more delete votes now. It's not a terrible question, but he is behaving terribly.
 
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Q: Plural of "Popeye"

dtechOkay, so this is kind of a strange question... but a group on my fraternity calls itself "Popeye" and they refer to themself als "Popeyers". But I got the feeling that that isn't really spelled right. But what would the correct English plural for "Popeye" be?

What is the, er, proper protocol for that?
Off-topic?
 
F'x
Duplicate
 
A question worthy of the name "closed" IMO.
 
F'x
7:15 PM
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Q: Family Name Pluralization

jerhinesmithWhen pluralizing family (last) names that also happen to be common English words, does the pluralization follow the same rules as the common word? For example, "the Smith family" can be pluralized as "the Smiths", but what if your family name is Wolf or Fish? Would it be "the Wolfs" or "the Wol...

 
@Fx Ah, nice.
 
F'x
Hey, look at:
The guy has the same URL in his profile as T-rex
 
It is T-Rex.
 
F'x
duh
actually, he has quite a history of closed questions
 
why did we decide to start calling him T- Rex when his first name is clearly Arthur?
 
F'x
7:19 PM
well, actually, he has another name now
and I think he was T-rex before, wasn't he?
so, why is no one voting to close this question?!
 
which one, exactly?
 
F'x
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Q: Plural of "Popeye"

dtechOkay, so this is kind of a strange question... but a group on my fraternity calls itself "Popeye" and they refer to themself als "Popeyers". But I got the feeling that that isn't really spelled right. But what would the correct English plural for "Popeye" be?

 
i don't really see anything wrong with that question. the mere fact that it's a Rex question isn't grounds to close it
 
F'x
@JSBangs look at the transcript: it's not his question, and I didn't realized he was one of the guys answering it (because of his new nickname)
It's a duplicate of all the “what's the plural of X” where X is a surname
 
I don't see Writers.SE making it. It has a very low churn rate.
 
7:43 PM
Ugh, another flagging opinion question
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Q: What is the difference between 'offer', 'propose', 'suggest'?

user5616What is the difference between offer, propose, and suggest? Thank you.

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Q: What is the difference between 'adjust', 'settle' and 'arrange' ?

user5616Can adjust, settle, and arrange be used interchangeably? Thank you.

I flagged the latter as "too narrow." Does this flagging seem incorrect?
The offer/propose/suggest question seem a little closer to useful and it is at +2, so I was going to leave it alone
 
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@MrHen I wouldn't flag, it seems OK to me (though certainly not the kind of question I like)
 
@Fx Mmk. Thanks
Do we even use "too narrow" here?
 
F'x
so, yet another bounty on the “monkey's paw” question
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Q: Is there a word to describe a highly desirable cursed treasure?

oosterwalIs there a single word to describe an object or idea that is so desirable that everyone wants to attain it but once they have it they are immediately cursed? The idea is often used in literature--some examples: In Lord of the Rings, the 'one ring' is a perfect example of this. In Guy de Maupas...

 
@Fx That seems odd.
I've sort of exhausted my options on that question :P
 
F'x
I flagged with: “Seeing how most recent answers are turning into jokes, and a second bounty was offered (while the first one was awarded to a joke), I suggest making this a community wiki.”
people set bounties on questions without it being clear (or them saying) what they expect or want
 
7:48 PM
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Q: What happened to the bounty I placed on one of my questions?

oosterwalI placed a bounty on one of my questions, expecting to select the bounty winner after the 1 week period had ended (assuming that this would allow everyone who might be interested to have a chance at providing a possibly winning answer.) This morning I went to choose the bounty winner and discove...

 
F'x
this is most annoying, and I think in some way is an abuse of the bounty system that I haven't seen on other SE sites
 
@Fx I don't think oosterwal is trying to play the system. The first time was a mistake
 
F'x
ok, thanks for posting the meta link
by the way, I saw you outscoring me with an answer starting with “FX's answer is completely correct”
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A: What's the difference between "null" and "void" in legal language?

MrHenF'x's answer is completely correct with regards to the usage of the legal term "null and void": Both refer to the same meaning of invalidity. As best as I can tell, "void" is the most appropriate of the two to use if you want to trim your word count. For everything else, however, the terms do ha...

I'm onto you, mister! :)
 
@Fx Yeah, that wasn't my fault. I have no idea why that question pulled in so many votes.
I upvoted you though... so...
 
F'x
well, my most-voted answer was lame, so there's no hard feeling there
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A: Which variant of English should I use when my target audience is the world?

F'xIf your target audience is the world, then you target not only people with a knowledge of American English, British English, and so on, but also people like myself, to whom English is not a mother tongue but a foreign language. If reaching these people is important to you, then you might want to ...

 
7:51 PM
The best part is Kelly's answer doesn't actually answer the question and is outscoring each of us. :)
 
F'x
but if that one ever reaches 37 (passive rep, please!) I'll get a [badge:guru]
 
which is guru?
nevermind, I looked it up
Holy crap, nevermind isn't a word?
I keep forgetting that...
Also, I just realized you edited the title of the null/void question so now it really does look like I was ripping you off :P
When I answered it was not explicitly referring to legal terms
 
Very often the outliers in our vote tallies involve stupid questions and or answers.
Here's the gift that keeps on giving for me:
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A: What is this an example of: "She looks as though she's been poured into her clothes, and forgot to say 'when"

RobustoThis is called paraprosdokian. A paraprosdokian (from Greek "παρα-", meaning "beyond" and "προσδοκία", meaning "expectation") is a figure of speech in which the latter part of a sentence or phrase is surprising or unexpected in a way that causes the reader or listener to reframe or reinterpre...

It was worth maybe 3 or 4 upvotes, but the question had the sexual aspect to it so naturally it got featured.
And then there's this one that totally glommed onto the popularity of Kurt Cobain:
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A: "Nevermind" versus "never mind"

RobustoNevermind is an album by Nirvana. "Never mind" means don't bother with something.

Again, the Nirvana reference turned this into an outlier.
 
@Robusto I still use "nevermind" as a word (and just did a bit a go.) I think it works and deserves its recognition.
 
Well, in your own small way you are recognizing it. I'm sure if Nirvana were not an obliteration of consciousness, Kurt Cobain would be smiling and nodding in your direction right now.
 
8:04 PM
@Robusto Not the album, the word.
In other news, I wish I could revoke flags after an edit.
 
F'x
@MrHen truly seconded, though it was declined on meta.SO multiple times
 
@Fx Do remember a keyword I can search to find the meta question?
 
F'x
no, sorry
 
@MrHen — Yes, I know that. I was riffing on you.
 
@Robusto Oh. Well, in that case, riff away!
 
8:16 PM
Well, uh, I don't know quite how to tell you this, MrHen, but it's probably time we talked. You need a new gravatar. Out-of-the-box gravatars are all well and good for noobs, but you've been here a while. People are starting to talk. Just sayin'.
 
@Robusto If you know a friendly, local avatar designer I have an idea I've always wanted to try
 
You don't need to be an avatar designer. But what's your idea?
 
I am unable to describe lines and their orientations via text and drawing isn't really an option right now
 
Or you could just lift something from the Web for the time being.
A good gravatar today is better than a perfect gravatar tomorrow.
Seriously, I'm just kidding you. You don't have to feel any pressure about getting a gravatar.
 
8:40 PM
It's just that you're becoming a regular around here and it would be nice to be able to recognize you as such. You're not generic, man!
 
F'x
8:50 PM
@MrHen: don't cave to the pressure, I had no gravatar until recently!
 

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