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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
3:15 PM
Chocolate, the finest delicacy.
 
RegDwight Ѭſ道
RegDwight Ѭſ道
The LEGO variety, you mean?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@RegDwightѬſ道 Yes, if you're a legovore
 
RegDwight Ѭſ道
RegDwight Ѭſ道
Well, it's you who mentioned LEGO chocolate bars.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@RegDwightѬſ道 well, that was yesterday
Today I ate a real chocolate bar, before breakfast, because it's going to be one of those days
 
RegDwight Ѭſ道
RegDwight Ѭſ道
Hm.
We must stop talking about LEGO, because all my new sets are still at work and I am stuck home with a cold.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
3:19 PM
After all, why should my avatar have a lego chocolate bar while I have none?
Of course, I ate my chocolate bar and he just lets it sit on his desk, so once again I have none.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Do you ever build things with your old sets?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@MrShiny Is it a meeting day?
Also, wanna hear something kind of funny?
 
RegDwight Ѭſ道
RegDwight Ѭſ道
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Some builds I just never take apart.
The rest gets re-used as spare parts.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ meeting day?
@Kitḫ yes
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@JasperLoy How was your time at the shopping centre?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
3:36 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I just finished testing a page I built, so now it's time to put it into production. Except that it's taken me a week full of interruptions and I've just discovered that at least one of those days I forgot to write notes. So now I'm not sure what I did.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ been there
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You said it was going to be one of those days. A pre-emptive chocolate day usually means something bad is going to happen, like a meeting.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Pretty funny, though. Like groan kind of funny. Funnier is that I plan to still put it into production, because, hey, how bad could it be?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ no, basically I am trying to fix potential XSS vulnerabilities in our code, only I'm not even sure they are real vulnerabilities, because afaics we are escaping things thoroughly, but the PCI compliance scanning company insists. Oh, and the fix has to be live monday.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Yay! New huge monitor just arrived!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ sweet
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
3:39 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ouch. That's much funnier than my morning.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ well, I'm spending a bit of time investigating the actual behaviour, because I want to know if I can actually reproduce the problem.
If not, I'm going to try to appeal the scan results.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Sometimes I am glad that what I do is not that sophisticated.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ well, nothing about this is particularly sophisticated, per se. It's more along the lines of "this potential security problem MUST be fixed by some arbitrary deadline even though it's not clear whether this is a REAL problem or IMAGINARY".
But the most annoying thing? This same scanning company reported another XSS vuln (again, I think not exploitable) recently, and we fixed THAT one, but when we re-scan they say "well, what about all these other ones" that they never mentioned before.
"You have 2 weeks to fix this one tiny error". 10 days goes by, "it's fixed". "What about these 30 other errors? They need to be fixed in the next 4 days too!"
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
Didn't expect to come in here and see a technology discussion going on.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson Often, people here don't even speak in English.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
3:48 PM
@Mahnax Sometimes people here don't even speak.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
A goodly portion of EL&Uers are programmers.
Oh barf. I have my new monitor hooked up, but it is cloning, so I can see myself typing out of the corner of my eye.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
a portly portion of programmers
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
BRB. Gotta fix that.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Indeed.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
But to add my 2 cents, I was a bit drunk last night when I reinstalled Windows 7. I fixed my username, but my home directory is still c:\Users\Osteoperosis
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
3:49 PM
@Kitḫ Enjoy!
@ErickRobertson If you want to test chat features there's always Sandbox.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@ErickRobertson hm, spelled wrong it'd make it harder to brute-force.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@Mahnax Sorry, I thought that would work.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Did I really spell that wrong?
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson It's unfortunate that there is no HTML in chat.
Hi @aedia!
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I guess I never looked up that word before. Embarassing.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
I have a button on my bookmarks bar that gives you all unicorn avatars when I click it.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
3:52 PM
@Mahnax What kind of unicorn am I?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Mahnax I'm not a unicorn, but I play one in Mahnax's imagination.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson You are a jumping green one with a small rainbow.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You do? Aaaah!
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Goedemorgen!
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
smooch
runs away very slowly
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@aediaλ are you still Tetris-B'ing? I am.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
3:55 PM
@Mahnax That's heavy, man.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
Voi voi. Tytöt, lopeta.
@ErickRobertson Sure.
@ErickRobertson Here you go:unicornify.appspot.com/avatar/…
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@Kitḫ pounces
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@Mahnax You should interpret everyone's unicorns and give them each a personal reading about their life and personality.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson Or I could get back to work.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
So how come your avatar is the iPhone globe instead of a unicorn, then?
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
3:58 PM
JavaScript prime number generator, whoo!
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@MrShinyandNew安宇 All yesterday and will be today soon as soon as people stop doing this pesky thing making noise with their mouths that requires me to take off my headphones!
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson That's just my generic avatar. This button merely replaces all Gravatars with unicorns until you refresh.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@Mahnax This is your work?
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson I'm in grade 10.
So yes.
My school work.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
What is gained by using Javascript for that project?
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
4:01 PM
@ErickRobertson A deeper understanding of JavaScript.
@ErickRobertson AKA nothing.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@Mahnax LOL, this is what I was getting at
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson You know, the Comp Sci class at the other high school in this district gets to learn actual Java, but we get stuck with an idiot teacher who has 2 skills: Web Scripting and Python.
So Python is Comp Sci 30, and Web Scripting is Comp Sci 10.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
If you did your project in something like Java, C, Assembler, hell Pascal even, then you could apply what you learned to other languages in the future.
@Mahnax That's hyper-lame.
Are you at least being taught to construct good object-oriented code?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mahnax noooooo! JavaScript is a really useful language. Well, when you use jQuery, it is.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@ErickRobertson I know! I would love to use a language that doesn't give me "error on line 14" when I forget to capitalize the float in parsefloat on line 18!
@ErickRobertson Nope.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
4:04 PM
I spent today working on Javascript and Python
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@MattЭллен Well, we aren't using jQuery.
I do love Python though.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
in theory, you could do my job
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
When I was in grade 11, I was bussed from one High School to the other in my district to take AP Computer Science which wasn't even offered in my school. It was a data structures class in Pascal.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@Mahnax I would think the Python class would be much more fun.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
4:05 PM
@ErickRobertson Definitely.
@aediaλ Thank you for your insight ;)
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
I don't think there's anything I would actually use Python for. Learning it would only be an exercise in curiosity, and a way perhaps to expand my mind.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Python is great.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Mahnax: don't knock Javascript too much. It's a very powerful language and growing increasingly better. Check out node.js, which is a server-side javascript technology meant to allow programming things like web-server applications in Javascript.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@Mahnax Python is really pretty, after all, but you'd better read up to be sure you know how to deal with those genetic mutations.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Interesting factoid about Python...
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
4:07 PM
The more I use Javascript the more I like it. It has some annoying flaws, but Ecmascript 5 fixes some of them.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@Kitḫ Named after Monty Python!
@MrShinyandNew安宇 It's fun, but we could be doing better things with our time.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Why would you use Javascript for things you could use Java for?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Kitḫ you've had sexual relations with Guido van Rossum?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Oh @Mahnax, you are probably too new for the long running joke...
May 23 at 12:46, by Kit
@RegDwight Big deal. I used to have sexual relations with Guido van Rossum.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@ErickRobertson Javascript has features that Java doesn't have. (Not that I use it for much server-side stuff, most of my work is Java).
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
4:09 PM
@Kitḫ Probably.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ what?!? You were joking all those times?!?
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
I shall learn!
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@MrShinyandNew安宇 What are these "features"?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@MrShinyandNew安宇 aye, like Java is OO and JS is prototype based
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@MrShinyandNew安宇 No, I don't joke about sexual relations. It's the "Interesting factoid" part that is the joke.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
4:10 PM
@ErickRobertson function pointers, closures, weak typing, object literal notation....
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Holy crap, I don't even know what to do with all of this workspace...
And yet, I find I want just one more monitor...
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ just watch youtube videos in full-screen
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@MrShinyandNew安宇 does Java not do closures? This surprises me
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@Kitḫ Isn't that always the way! How many do you have now?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@ErickRobertson Just two.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
4:12 PM
@MattЭллен nope, no closures
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
I'd have three, but my wimpy little card won't support more.
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@Kitḫ I had a meeting a couple days ago with another group whose software we're going to integrate with. They said that their software requires a dedicated machine and I thought, that's great - two more monitors!
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
It would be nice to have my laptop monitor supported, so I could put you guys over there while I shift my codez between test and production.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
Plz send teh codez.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
you see, @Mahnax, with closures, having functions as 1st class citizens and such you can do the most fun type of programming: Functional Programming!
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
4:14 PM
@MattЭллен Useless garbage, I say.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Anyway, @Mahnax, remember that programming class is never about the language and always about the concepts. I used to have to learn "stupid" languages (cough Turing, anyone?) but as a programmer you're expected to be able to use ALL the languages. So just focus on the ideas, and if you find the ideas easy, try to go faster in class.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
Functional. Bah.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I do Obj-C and Python at home.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
I love that in Javascript I can define an anonymous function wherever I want, and pass it around for others to execute.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Sloppy thinking, sloppy codez.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Mahnax :O but! but! it's soooooo nice to read a programme written in a functional style. It's like music to my eyes
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
4:15 PM
@MattЭллен The only time I ever did that was when I took a Scheme class, and some AI classes in Lisp.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@MattЭллен teehee "programme"
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I thought anonymous function execution went out in the 80s with the rise of HIV?
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@MattЭллен Haha, it's program silly :P
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I shall use the unpopular British spelling until I die!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ nope, it's back now.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
4:16 PM
@ErickRobertson I use it quite frequently in C#, and I like messing with Haskell
 
Erick Robertson
Erick Robertson
@MattЭллен What do you need this for?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Javascript gets a bad reputation sometimes because of its history as a way to add useless crap to web pages. But the language itself is extremely powerful and flexible.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Speaking of "useless crap" and "web pages," I should probably get back to teasing out what I did this week.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Kitḫ yeah me too
bye all, see you on the other side of lunch
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@ErickRobertson Functional Programming concepts? I use them for doing things with lists and for multi-threaded stuff
@MrShinyandNew安宇 amen
@ErickRobertson probably for other things too, but I just don't realise it
you can't use LINQ without Functional Programming
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
4:21 PM
Someday, I should learn LINQ. And jQuery.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
LINQ and the whole IEnumerable<T> set of extensions are super
every time I have to do things with enumerable collections I want to find a way to do it with LINQ (or is it Linq? or LInQ? bah, doesn't matter)
I'm always disappointed if I realise it's easier and more readable to do something in a for or while than in LINQ
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
...and copy...and paste...and copy...and paste...
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
coderobics?
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
I think untangling my headphones was just harder than my actual work.
But it's worth it to be able to move my head slightly farther without fear of causing a catastrophe.
@Kitḫ You fought dragons! Right?
I did. Except for those days when I had a bad headache and my husband got away with fighting some dragons when he was supposed to be working on his schoolwork because I was sleeping and couldn't discipline him.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
4:41 PM
My prime number crud is almost done.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
woohoo!
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
...Never mind. It's being stupid.
Is there any way to just reset all the values of an array?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
too may holes in your sieve, eh?
@Mahnax depends what you mean by reset. if you just want an empty array
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@MattЭллен Yeah, just empty.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
arr = [];
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
4:48 PM
You should throw that array out and get a new one. It's probably dirty anyway.
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
Awesome! Thanks.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
no probs :)
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
Now, let's see if this idea works.
Woah, my array is giving me undefined values. Roaar.
 
α its_me
α its_me
hi all!
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
@αits_me Hi!
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
4:51 PM
Why oh why, w*rk people? How am I ever going to make things comply with your new style conventions if you want them to match the old style conventions up until the moment everything is supposed to magically be in the new style?
@αits_me Hola!
 
α its_me
α its_me
@aediaλ na! na! I've decided not to speak spanish until I actually start learning it. :P
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@αits_me Aww, but I'm sure you know hola y adios y gracias y cinco o diez palabras mas ;)
 
α its_me
α its_me
:) surgo
(that means, "sure" I think) Spanish is like english... you elongate the pronunciation of a word and it's kinda spanish
I was writing my notes today and I had a doubt.
"Libraries in Linux are like .ddl(s) in Windows" - - that's the sentence.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@αits_me Hehe. Seguro, sounds like that pretty much though.
 
α its_me
α its_me
oops! you're right
Anyway... "Libraries in Linux are like .ddl(s) in Windows" - - that's the sentence.
so, how do I put it?
Libraries in Linux are like .ddls in Windows or Libraries in Linux are like .ddl's in Windows
the latter is wrong I guess?
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
4:59 PM
Uhh, sounds good to me. Libraries in Linux are like .dll files in Windows is what I would probably write.
Your question is mostly about the (s) or 's ? I would write around that to avoid it completely :)
 
α its_me
α its_me
I know. That's probably the best way. But what if I don't want to include "files"
 
Mahnax
Mahnax
Bye all!
 
α its_me
α its_me
I have seen many write ddl's - - but I think it's wrong
@Mahnax oh! take care bud
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
I think I might use .dll's rather than .dlls because it is clearer, treating it more like a single letter or an acronym. I think we have some questions about that...
 
α its_me
α its_me
@aediaλ yes. it's about making it plural.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
5:02 PM
3
Q: What is the proper way to write the plural of a single letter? (another apostrophe question)

JedidjaWhen writing (a blog post, script, etc..) what is the proper way to indicate two or more instances of a single letter? For instance, in Monty Python's Bookshop Sketch: C: I wonder if you might have a copy of "Rarnaby Budge"? P: No, as I say, we're right out of Edmund Wells! C: No, n...

grammatical-number alphabet
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Q: What is the correct way to pluralize an acronym?

JohnFxFor example, if I wanted to write the equivalent of There are many automated teller machines in this city. Would it be There are many ATMs in this city. or There are many ATM's in this city. (could get confused with possessive form or contraction). or just There are many...

acronyms grammatical-number
 
α its_me
α its_me
@aedia one thread says "They omit the apostrophe, unless there are periods in the abbreviation."
so, it's probably .ddl's
problem solved
To be frank, I didn't know that an apostrophe could be used to pluralize words! :(
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
It's usually not, but single letters and acronyms are odd cases.
 
α its_me
α its_me
okay
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Dynamic-link library
Dynamic-link library (also written without the hyphen), or DLL, is Microsoft's implementation of the shared library concept in the Microsoft Windows and OS/2 operating systems. These libraries usually have the file extension DLL, OCX (for libraries containing ActiveX controls), or DRV (for legacy system drivers). The file formats for DLLs are the same as for Windows EXE files — that is, Portable Executable (PE) for 32-bit and 64-bit Windows, and New Executable (NE) for 16-bit Windows. As with EXEs, DLLs can contain code, data, and resources, in any combination. In the broader sense of...
Now that I think about it, it's sort of an acronym, even if it is a file extension.
 
α its_me
α its_me
DLLs - - i see that. But I wanted to show the .ddl file extension - - hence, the tension
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
5:06 PM
@aediaλ Yes, I did. But I think that is not necessary to making this new page work.
 
α its_me
α its_me
@aedia and sorry, I seem to have mixed up ddl's and dll's
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@αits_me Oh, a side note: In Spanish, "tengo una duda" does mean "I have a question/doubt," and would probably be fine to use here, but in English, it sounds a little funny to talk about having a doubt in this way. We might say when we don't believe something, "I doubt that very much". In your case, you had a question, or a problem, or an issue, or perhaps, "I was writing my notes and started wondering something." :)
@Kitḫ Oh but but everything is better with dragons!
 
α its_me
α its_me
@aediaλ cool! noted. :)
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@αits_me No problem! I think my mind autocorrected for you.
I didn't really notice.
Just don't try to discuss both at once with me, I guess :P
 
α its_me
α its_me
I need that.
:) of course not!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
5:14 PM
@Mahnax eep! hope you got it sorted out.
 
α its_me
α its_me
@aedia you know what, it's when I come here that I know how good my english should get. And now I am also focused on improving my communication skills. Just started my own channel (shh!) where I'll stay anonymous and blabber whatever comes to my mind. :D
That way I should see some improvement in a few months.
And that would be great!
(I meant, I started my own YouTube channel)
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
0
Q: If enough people start using a word contextually wrong when does the word's meaning change?

johnthexiiiExample Say some percent of the English speaking population started using the word "sky" to replace the meaning of "cloud", at what percent would you be wrong in using the word "sky" to refer to the sky.

meaning-in-context
I think this is either not constructive or a dupe of other similar questions we have had before that I am struggling to find
 
α its_me
α its_me
lol!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@aediaλ I've voted not constructive. No one can answer that
 
α its_me
α its_me
@Moo did - - looks like he's just registerd
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
5:22 PM
Moo essentially agreed with Irene's comment.
 
α its_me
α its_me
@Matt hi!
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
I found 4 related questions though
At least I'm satisfied that my deja vu is real
Or something like that.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@αits_me hi :)
 
α its_me
α its_me
@MattЭллен Then that shouldn't be an answer right?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@aediaλ sounds like it's a dupe
 
α its_me
α its_me
5:23 PM
It should rather be a comment
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@αits_me True, but new users get a pass. They can't actually comment.
 
α its_me
α its_me
@Kitḫ oh, didn't know that.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@MattЭллен I think When does a mistake become standard usage? is the best candidate for dupe, but unfortunately I already voted not constructive :P
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
ah well, it's no big loss :D
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Oh you even found another!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
5:26 PM
Only 'cos I answered it :D
@aediaλ your suggestion is best
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@MattЭллен I remember that one! I like that one.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
thank you kindly
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
looks sadly at coffee cup
wishes for it to refill
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
does coffee needs filled?
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
wishes harder
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
5:39 PM
wishes with you
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@MattЭллен Coffee empty waaah!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
you need to find a Make Us A Brew fairy
although maybe coffee isn't brewed
I don't know
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Ooh where do I catch those?
Coffee is brewed, right?
Tea is steeped, coffee is brewed?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Tea is brewed
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Or do you do something else with it on your side of the pond? Flatter it?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
5:42 PM
coffee could be brewed, I don't make it
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
What kind of tea is brewed? That's some strong sounding tea.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
If someone says "Mek uz a brew are kid", they want tea
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Perked, that's another coffee word
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
swearing loudly
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
roughly translated from the Northern dialect as make me a tea, child
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
5:44 PM
But I don't have a percul percuhlator perker thingermajig.
Hehe.
@Kitḫ Ohnoes!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@aediaλ Then you need the Percolation fairy! I think they live at Starbuck's
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Perked coffee is tasty.
@MattЭллен hisses
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Kitḫ what's up?!
@Kitḫ or maybe an independent coffee house?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
So, anyone know how to change a password for a remote server login in Windows 7 using RDP?
@MattЭллен unhisses
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
ah
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
5:45 PM
Hit it really hard?
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
ask the sysadmin?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Used to be you could just login, it would fail and prompt you to change.
Now it disconnects and won't let me reconnect so that I can change it.
punches computer
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Oh um yeah mine lately don't even have an option to change until it auto-comes-up after 90 days or whatever. If I forget, I have to get a sysadmin.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
I've not used RDP with win 7 in such a way.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Not Win 7, but a Windows shop.
It's annoying.
Have you tried correct horse battery staple?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
5:48 PM
In the Run box? Yes.
I also tried looking under the tape dispenser.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
maybe the password is hunter2
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
BRB
Nope.
I just got my boss to do it. He frowned and checked the "Password never expires" box.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
HAAAAAA!
Sorry.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Eep!
hides
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
peeks in sack Here Kitkitkit! I sowwy!
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
5:55 PM
nose quivers
u haz kofeez?
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
I just... I just had this exaggerated vision of your boss being like, "Let's just make passwords never expire for anyone! That'll save a lot of time, right?" and I exploded raucously.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Oh yes. That would be funny. He's not that kind of boss.
He's very kind, and so he got this kind of scrunchy look of concern on his face.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@Kitḫ No :( No haz coffee until go to deli.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
We've had to do this once before, you see. He scratched his head, poked it a bit, then just checked the box. Fixed.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Ah, the nice boss, not the lead. I somehow still get them mixed up.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
5:58 PM
@aediaλ The lead doesn't touch the servers. Or know anything about checking boxes.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
That makes much more sense.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
@Kitḫ for him checking box is what you do on Christmas Eve?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@MattЭллен Hehe, yes.
Also, what he does to his colleague when his wife isn't around.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
:O
salacious
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
speculative
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
6:02 PM
I see...
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
But likely true. That's why I am spreading the rumor there are rumors.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
ah
I've heard something to that effect. Can't recall where from nod nod, wink wink
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
No, that's not how you do it, silly.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
oh?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
gasp Matt, I can assure you that there is absolutely nothing going on between my project lead and his colleague. He is married, for Pete's sake!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
6:07 PM
ohhh!
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
I don't care what you've heard. My project lead is not a pedophile. That's preposterous.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
hahaha
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
It is a strange quirk of human behavior that people are more likely to believe it's true if you deny it.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Maybe the cleaning staff say he's been sleeping in his car for three weeks, but I wouldn't listen to them!
@Kitḫ aye, most odd.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Honestly, I don't know who could possibly believe that he has been stealing money from the company for years.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
6:11 PM
@Kitḫ Huhwhah? I was w*rking, I assure you!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
Aedia? Sleeping at her desk? Honestly, what nonsense!
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Couldn't possibly happen! She's one of the most diligent people I know.
I can't believe I just taught you one of my evil mind tricks.
Like I need competition for world conquest.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
You'll need loyal housecarls.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
You're in the running too, eh?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Mmm. Housecarls.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
6:17 PM
bah! I can't search for into on EL&U
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
Did you try teh googles?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
Going for a walk wif mah gf. Back later!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
oooo, good thinking
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@Kitḫ Enjoy!
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
cya @Kit
is it fair to just answer "Yes. Both are fine"?
2
Q: "Translate into" vs. "Translate to"

jrdiokoDoes one translate a word or phrase into another language or to another language? For example: Translate the following phrase to Spanish. Translate the following phrase into Spanish.

word-choice prepositions
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
6:40 PM
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
@MattЭллен Hmm maybe there is some way to find some corpus evidence or something?
in COCA translate into is more common than translate to, but I'm having a dashed hard time thinking of how to find where they are specifically used talking about language translation
I found 9:2 hits in favor of translate into for this search and this, collocating the actual word language with 'em, but I don't think that really shows much.
 
Matt Эллен
Matt Эллен
hmmmm. Yeah, to really get down to it you'd need to search through enough of the context to be sure either way
I see Barrie's taken a stance
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
7:21 PM
I'm not sure it matters if you translate this into Spanish or translate it to Spanish. However, "into" is used in other kinds of "transformations", like "He was turned into a cat", so maybe that's the rule that should be emulated.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
O lasagna, you may think you can escape, but I stab you viciously with my steely plastic knife. Pow! Bam! Bash! I say. No, you're not getting out of this one. You bleed with the blood of many tomatoes, and I almost relent, thinking of their past suffering. But onward! Victory, at last!
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@aediaλ We need not care about tomato suffering, because everyone knows their souls are evil. That's why we eat them, as a civic good of ridding the world of tiny red globular evils.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
I never thought of it that way!
Those heirloom ones are the worst. It's like someone's trying to reincarnate a long-dead monster. I shall have to eat them all, to save us.
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@aediaλ me neither
@aediaλ Yeah, after I posted my message I started pondering the complicit crimes of tomato-growers.
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
The pizza! Think of all the tainted pizza! drools
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
7:26 PM
@aediaλ This calls for a covert operation, of vengeful destruction of evil!
 
Daniel δ
Daniel δ
0
A: Which is correct: "he don't" or "he doesn't"?

nelson100 % "he doesn't" is correct... Only stuped and silly persons say "he don't"

What to do?
 
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
Mr. Shiny and New 安宇
@Danielδ downvote, I guess
 
Daniel δ
Daniel δ
No flag applicable?
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
@Danielδ Flag it.
Not welcome in our community.
 
Daniel δ
Daniel δ
@Kitḫ I'm getting to the point where a declined flag hurts a lot...
...but I think this one's safe enough. Flagged as suggested.
Crunchy tomato fondue delight
Which would be absolutely sick, IMO.
 
Kitḫ
Kitḫ
7:44 PM
@MattЭллен trying to breathe, trying to stifle peals of laughter, hide tears...
 
aedia λ
aedia λ
7:54 PM
I got sidetracked looking for a reference for don't used in third person in AAVE and didn't do anything.
Harder to find than I thought. I think my google-fu is off today.
> Third person singular present tense –s is dropped and don’t and have are used with the third person. He walk. – “He walks.” / He don’t sing. – “He doesn’t sing.” / She have it. – “She has it.”
 
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