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1:00 PM
@MattЭллен If I say from 1 to 2 back to 1 do you know what I mean now?
 
@JasperLoy not really.
 
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@Cerberus Really? I thought you are depressed.
 
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@MattЭллен OK I will send you a season's greetings now to explain things.
 
@JasperLoy OK :D
 
@MattЭллен Yay!
@JasperLoy Why on earth would you think that? I am not.
 
1:02 PM
@Cerberus how did your meringues turn out?
 
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@Cerberus Well, you have sleep problems and you sounded weird whenever I asked you some questions.
 
@MattЭллен Very well! Except that cocoa just doesn't work very well with meringue, and I didn't like the cinnamon ones much. But the regular ones are good, and consistency is good all over.
 
excellent news, apart from the bits that didn't work
 
@JasperLoy I don't know what you mean by the latter, but you shouldn't be jumping to conclusions.
@MattЭллен Any suggestions for another flavour?
 
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@Cerberus Well, just guessing, not jumping.
 
1:04 PM
It is jumping.
 
@Cerberus I like ginger. Chilli might work - it goes well with sweet things. add in chopped nuts?
 
Hmm interesting!
Ginger I have no idea how that would turn out. Chilli is sometimes used with chocolate, but I'm not sure how you imagine that in a meringue. I like the nuts!
 
I had sweet chilli crisps, they taste good
 
chilli meringue? :D that's a step too far even for my tastes
 
@MattЭллен Oh, I see. Hmm I happen to dislike those, mostly. Sorry.
 
user19161
1:07 PM
@MattЭллен Check your inbox and let me know what you think.
 
@JasperLoy will do - when I'm back home :)
@Cerberus ah - probably not a good idea then!
 
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@z7sgѪ Long time no see!
 
@z7sgѪ even after that Moroccan spice?
 
@JasperLoy HI!
 
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@z7sgѪ WOW! All caps in Mr Shiny style!
 
1:09 PM
@MattЭллен i think they are quite particular about their combinations. wonderful cooks though.
 
@z7sgѪ It is fair to say I am not a discerning chef
or a chef
for example, this evening I will be combining noodles, chicken flavouring, chilli powder and ginger
 
I think crisps are one of the best things in life as regards food.
 
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@Cerberus No guessing means this might be true, jumping means this is true.
 
mmmmm spicy chicken noodles
 
@MattЭллен Sounds fine!
@JasperLoy I don't know what you mean; just don't.
 
user19161
1:13 PM
@Cerberus Anyway you can be a chef I think!
 
@Cerberus agreed. such a good snack food
 
We all can! Cooking is not hard; you just have to do it.
The stupid can cook too.
 
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@Cerberus Just do it. Nike.
 
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@Cerberus If Yan can cook, so can you.
 
they seemed to have a fixed idea about what spices go with which meats and so on and do variations around that. one of the citrus and chicken tajines i had was just amazing
 
1:15 PM
@z7sgѪ sounds delish!
 
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@MattЭллен I shall go to bed now.
 
@JasperLoy have a good sleep
 
yeah it's really something. the closest equivalent to "fast food" places over there serve up the most healthy and delicious dishes you can imagine
 
Good night!
 
i mean, it's not cooked fast of course they just leave stuff simmering away but you can turn up and eat one straight away.
 
1:19 PM
@z7sgѪ Yeah northern Europe just sucks.
And I distrust eastern Europe too.
The Mediterranean is just great.
 
traditionally up north winter food options would be limited of course but still, that's no excuse for all the crap we eat
 
we need the fat to keep us warm!
that's why deep fried Mars bar caught on up in Bonnie Scotland ;-)
 
Oh God...
Is that good?
 
I've no idea. Probably for the first bite, and then you'd be full
 
I must bow in shame and admit I like many candy-bar ice-creams.
 
1:25 PM
Me too!
 
Oh, dear.
What will become of us?
 
good things?
 
Hey, am I a freak for liking coconut everything?
 
depends on what you mean by everything
 
Well, just everything!
 
1:26 PM
like a coconut pizza doesn't sound great
 
Hmm maybe not...
 
nor does coconut apples
 
Then again, it can go with salty food.
 
or carrots in coconut shavings
 
Coconut apples might be good?
Carrots too!
I think I might like those.
 
1:27 PM
maybe, maybe raw. but definitely not cooked
 
They put coconut in everything in Thailand.
 
I might like coconut kebab meat
 
They have dishes with coconut and carrot for sure.
 
@MattЭллен I ate a coconut pizza. It was alright. Could have been better but the coconut part was ok.
 
I happen to dislike kebab, but I see what you mean.
 
1:28 PM
just mind you don't go coco loco
 
Also: new tim minchin video: youtu.be/_SFdUJLebzU
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I knew it!!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I see. also Hello! I will withold judgement until I try it
 
I like him.
But I'm afraid I'm not getting many of the references.
 
@MattЭллен Well, it certainly wouldn't be for everyone. But I thought it was ok. Ham, coconut, pineapple, and hot chili peppers, I think it was. I think overall it was a bit too sweet, so maybe I'd improve it by doing coconut-cooked chicken instead of raw coconut on the pizza.
 
1:35 PM
Ah.
 
how about coconut flour in the dough?
 
I'd remove the pineapple and most of the peppers.
 
i'm currently at 22,999 rep, which pleases me
 
And chicken instead of ham?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 i find raw coconut kind of disgusting, so it doesn't sound like it's for me.
however, some coconut-cooked things are fine
 
1:37 PM
Oooh I totally understand why you should hate raw coconut, what with its slightly rotting smell, but I like that too.
Though the fibres can be a bit tiring.
 
@JSBᾶngs well, I merely wanted to point out that people can, and do, eat coconut pizza. (Granted: I never ordered it a second time... :) )
 
Excellent.
 
what? rotting? i don't remember that. i like the whole process, getting a whole one and cracking it
 
What if you just chucked some Thai curry on naan?
That would be a great pizza.
 
@Cerberus To my knowledge I've never had Thai food. So... I dunno.
 
1:38 PM
@z7sgѪ Not actually rotting, but it smells a bit like old milk.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Huh? What?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 thai food is the best. by far my favorite asian cuisine. (indian takes second)
 
It is the best eastern food!
 
don't ruin it for me please
 
Jinx!
I like Indian and Japanese a lot too.
And Vietnamese, so far as I know it.
Chinese, not so much.
 
@Cerberus yeah, japanese and vietnamese are good. chinese isn't great.
 
1:39 PM
Finally someone who agrees!
 
the order is: thai > indian > vietnamese > japanese > szechuan > cantonese
 
Chinese is too sweet and nondescript to me.
 
@Cerberus Shocking, I know
 
well, you really do need to distinguish szechuan from cantonese. cantonese is more common overseas, at last
 
Hmm I barely know what Szechuan tastes like; but Cantonese?
 
1:41 PM
most generic chinese food outside of china is cantonese
 
Okay, perhaps Cantonese is what is sold in most cheap restaurants here? I know Szechuan is fancier.
Jinx again.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Try it! It's really good.
Thai curries are fucking delicious.
 
canton = hong kong, and given the early prominence of hong kong in contact with the west, "chinese food" as it came to be known in the west is mostly cantonese
 
@JSBᾶngs Uh, no.
Canton = Guangzhou.
 
@Cerberus oh. huh. i guess i was completely wrong about that.
 
You Americans and Honkong! Kit thought it was Hainan.
In any case, it is the same general area.
 
1:43 PM
i knew that Canton was something other than Canton in modern naming, but i had it mixed up
 
Huh?
What do you mean?
I know only Chinese Canton and Swiss cantons.
 
@Cerberus > Guangzhou (Chinese: 广州; Mandarin pronunciation: [ku̯ɑ̀ŋʈʂɤ́ʊ̯]), known historically as Canton or Kwangchow
 
Oh, I see.
Well, it is still Canton.
Just like Peking, Bombay, Calcutta, etc.
 
New Amsterdam
 
but we agree that @MrShinyandNew really needs to try some thai food
 
1:45 PM
@MattЭллен Now that's different.
 
@MrShinyandNew where do you live? are there any good thai restaurants nearby?
 
But London is still Londen in Dutch, and Den Haag is still The Hague in English.
I'm sure there are plenty of Thai restaurants in Toronto.
And Mr is very much into things Asian, I heard...
 
@Cerberus oh, yeah, toronto has everything
@Cerberus what do you mean by that?
 
@JSBᾶngs I believe he and nearly all of his co-workers married Asians.
 
1:47 PM
@JSBᾶngs The problem is that I'm allergic to peanuts and I understand that those are very common in Thai food
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Peanuts? Hmm I have never noticed any; in the curry paste, perhaps?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 just get the non-peanut dishes. there are plenty of them.
 
Certainly no whole peanuts.
 
@JSBᾶngs Sure, the non-peanut-non-peanut-contaminated ones
 
@Cerberus peanut sauce is very common in thai dishes
 
1:48 PM
@Cerberus my brother too
 
@JSBᾶngs Hm OK, never noticed that.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Good score.
 
@Cerberus and most of my local friends
 
Funny.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 you all married asians en-masse? was there a group ceremony?
 
There must be some explanation.
 
1:49 PM
@JSBᾶngs no, it just sorta happened.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 you want phad see lo or phad khee mao. (spelling may vary)
 
Something about the industry you all work in?
@JSBᾶngs drools even seeing those unfamiliar-but-Thai-looking names
 
@Cerberus part of the explanation is that some of my local friends are actually the husbands of my wife's friends and they were a group a chinese girls that hung out together in school. So, it's somewhat of a tautology that they are all in relationships where the woman is asian.
 
Yes, I see.
 
@Cerberus Another part of the explanation is that some of my friends are Chinese so it's natural that they seek out Chinese wives.
 
1:51 PM
But your brother? And your co-workers?
I can't imagine what it would be like to be living with Asians all day.
Is it very different, socially and culturally?
Or not at all?
 
But here at my workplace every single person on the development team has studied Chinese, Korean, or Japanese, and the four married guys are married to asian women and only one of us is Chinese already
 
Have they/you been assimilated?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 So why have they all studies Asian languages? Work related?
 
@Cerberus no, just personal reasons
 
Then the coincidence is that they all ended up working there?
 
@Cerberus probably, yes
 
1:53 PM
Or does everybody study Asian languages in T'to?
 
@Cerberus it seems that way sometimes
 
my favorite thai dish
 
At least 4 families that I know of at my daughter's daycare are mixed-race families (I mean, mixed caucasian-asian) and probably another half-dozen at my son's daycare
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 so you're the ones creating all those stereotypes about white nerds liking asian girls ;)
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Huh, at daycare too!? Could it be something about your neighbourhood?
 
1:55 PM
ironically my Chinese classes have traditionally been heavily filled with Chinese students who want to learn their "native" language
 
@JSBᾶngs Ahh I think I know that dish. I like!
 
@JSBᾶngs Well, I'm certainly not helping things. But my brother is hardly a nerd, he works in construction.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Huh? Chinese students, as in students from China?
 
@Cerberus Could be, except not all the kids at daycare live near here, some are from far away but their parents work here.
@Cerberus students who are ethnically Chinese
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 So second-generation immigrants or something?
 
1:56 PM
My neighbourhood IS near a small Koreatown, but most of the mixed people I know are Chinese not Korean (though I do know some).
@Cerberus Yeah, or first-generation-but-came-here-when-very-small.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 So is it that a great many people working in the offices nearby are somehow Asians? I'm trying to solve this demographic puzzle.
Hmmm....
wobbles heads
 
@Cerberus well, demographically, there are quite a lot of East asian and south asians in toronto
Although I noticed this phenomenon a lot when I was in Vancouver
Plus I'm sure that I am under a quite large confirmation bias. After all, non-mixed-couples are certainly not noteworthy.
But I know SO MANY mixed couples.... I see so many kids with just one parent and I think "That kid is mixed, where's his/her mom/dad so I can confirm..."
 
you know, @MrShinyandNew, I always thought your kids looked half-asian, but i never commented on it
 
One day my friend was in a drug store and every single other couple there was a mixed white guy/asian girl
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 lol
 
2:01 PM
@JSBᾶngs I guess you missed the conversation back when I added the 安宇 to my name :)
@JSBᾶngs (also he is married to an American/Chinese girl) (actually she's the illustrator of my book)
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 what does that mean anyway?
 
@JSBᾶngs They are part of my kids Chinese names
daughter = 正安 son = 正宇
The 正 part is their generation's character from the family motto
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 i see that character as a-circumflex
 
The family motto is quite long, and not even my mother-in-law knows what it means because it's written in Classical Chinese
@JSBᾶngs really!!?! What browser/OS are you using? Sounds like you have the wrong character encoding, maybe?
 
unicode, baby. this is chrome on Win7
 
2:04 PM
@JSBᾶngs very very odd
 
I see 正, in Win XP, FF 8. That is, it looks like a person stood next to a flat tree
 
@Cerberus btw, i made mozarella cheese at home earlier this week for the first time
@MattЭллен that's another a-circumflex
ok, my OS locale is set to ro, so that could be the reason
 
@JSBᾶngs Wow!
 
@MattЭллен I see it too.
 
We see the tree!
 
@Cerberus also a whey ricotta. they both turned out delicious. i was amazed.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 it looks fine on that page
 
Better than store-bought?
 
@JSBᾶngs It's odd though, why would your browser not show the page using unicode
 
2:06 PM
I used to have that problem too.
 
Also when ping me and it fills my name in, do you see the two characters there?
 
@Cerberus way better. store-bought mozarella here is tasteless. even the relatively high-grade stuff
 
Until I installed this:
{{Infobox font | name=Code2000 | familyname= | image= | style= | classifications= | creator=James Kass | commissioned_by= | foundry= | foundries= | creationdate= | releasedate=2008, v1.171 RTM | trademark= | based_on= | aka= | variations= | sample= | shown_here= | sample_fullimage= }} Code2000 is a pan-Unicode digital font, which includes characters and symbols from a very large range of writing systems. As of the current final version 1.171 released in 2008, Code2000 is designed and implemented by James Kass to include as much of the Unicode 5.2 standard as practical (whereas 6.0 is the...
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 that actually works now
 
@JSBᾶngs Hmm OK. And the ricotta too?
 
2:08 PM
Is it possible that you've got the wrong encoding for this page?
 
@Cerberus it's hard to buy ricotta here. mine turned out a lot dryer and firmer than most ricottas, almost like a cream cheese, but it had a wonderful flavor.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I have auto-detect encoding off, and UTF-8 enabled.
@JSBᾶngs OK, interesting! And was it a lot of work?
 
Ultimate Text Force 8
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 encoding is utf-8. i have no idea.
 
it's a new superhero comic for proof readers
 
2:09 PM
@Cerberus it took about 1.5 hrs, and i got a pound of mozarella and a half-pound of ricotta
 
@JSBᾶngs 1.5 hours both together?
 
@Cerberus yep. pretty quick.
 
And I presume you had to wait for a few days after that? I have no idea how those cheeses are made.
 
@JSBᾶngs on the unihan page, or on chinese.stackexchange.com, do you see chinese characters?
 
Still a nice produce:time ratio.
 
2:11 PM
@Cerberus no. mozarella is a fresh cheese, which means that it isn't aged. it's actually best the day that you make it
@MrShinyandNew安宇 yes, yes. and i can see the characters in your name, and the second character in your children's names. it's just that one character which shows up weird.
it's probably not worth bothering with now
 
Or just install Code2000.
 
@Mitch it happens. vote to close.
 
Aye
he's a serial poor to middling question asker
 
3:09 PM
Ohai!
 
Ohayou gozaimasu!
 
I came to tell a story.
Then I'm off.
Anyone want to hear a funny kid story?
 
sits ready to listen
 
@Kitḫ yes plz
 
So a friend of mine has two kids.
 
3:14 PM
Very funny.
 
The youngest, we'll call him Alex, is in Kindergarten.
 
Oh sorry. It ain't over yet.
 
Alex's daddy gets a call from school to come pick up his son.
Alex is getting kicked out of kindergarten for fighting.
 
good for Alex. i hope he punched that kid hard.
he had it coming, the punk.
 
3:15 PM
The teacher is apologetic. She says, "Just so you know, Alex didn't start it, but our policy is to send both kids home."
On the ride home, Alex says "Daddy, I need to tell you something about the fight I had with Jake."
"I did what I was supposed to do, Daddy. He pushed me and I said 'Jake, please stop pushing me.'"
"I said please, Daddy. I really did."
"He wouldn't stop pushing me."
"I said 'Please stop pushing me, Jake.'"
"But he wouldn't stop."
"So I punched his fucking lights out."
5
 
I had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard at that one.
 
awesome
 
I love the "I said please, Daddy."
 
indeed :D
 
3:19 PM
That is great!
 
@Kitḫ Tell me this is a true story and not embellished
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 This is a true story.
 
@MrShiny I have a French question, do you think you can help?
 
Except the names have been changed.
 
@Kitḫ awesome
@Mahnax maybe
 
3:22 PM
I should say likely true; it is as related by his daddy.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, have you ever heard the outdated insult "tête-carrés"?
 
Blockheads?
 
@Mahnax my mom uses that to refer to the "english"
 
That's pretty outdated in English too.
 
@Kitḫ Squarehead, aka nerd.
 
3:23 PM
@Kitḫ I think my parents would've grounded me forever for using that language
 
@FallenAngelEyes I would have said, "Alex, honey, we don't say "fucking" in this house"
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Okay. Would you say you have a square head or you are a square head?
 
@FallenAngelEyes I probably would have ignored it. But it would have been hard to discipline when laughing really hard.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Haha, yeeeeah. Also, neat, your snowman is blue.
 
@Mahnax Either probably works, my mom uses it (jokingly, I guess) thus: "les anglais ont les tetes carres"
 
3:24 PM
OK. I have to go. Later, folks!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah, okay.
@Kitḫ Bye!
 
@FallenAngelEyes different from other snowmen?
 
cya @Kit! merry yuletide
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 In one of the other rooms it's red.
Sandbox, that is.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Our highlight color in The Bridge is orange, so it's orange there.
 
3:26 PM
@Mahnax But in French, as far as I know, you can call someone by a defining attribute if you want to emphasize that that is the essence of what they are.
@FallenAngelEyes hm.... is the Snowman a CSS snowman then?
someone ping me, I've got Firebug open
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Maybe? Ask @balpha!
@MrShinyandNew安宇 ping ping
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ping again.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah, okay. That makes sense.
 
Yeah so it's a CSS snowman
 
clever! So user script could be written to turn it into something else...
 
@MattЭллен Ooh, devious.
 
3:32 PM
Well, I'd have to figure out user scripts first :D
 
We should turn it into a giant letter 𝒳
@MrShinyandNew安宇 OOH.
 
barf you can set content from css? But the whole separation thing?!
 
@MattЭллен well, it's supposed to be presentation content
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I made him green, with a black hat, and black letters.
 
3:37 PM
like adding quote marks, or something
I mean, you can add image content, right? so why not text content
 
I suppose
 
@Mahnax You have to click "save" or "fork" to get a link to your fiddle
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah.
 
@MattЭллен like just about every part of HTML/CSS, it can be used for good or ill
 
@MattЭллен It's really useful for adding colons to all entries in the first column of a table, say.
Or ellipses to cut-off stuff.
 
It's like a Ring of Power. You can do great things with it but it will turn you into a wraith
 
Or " (Russian)" to all links that lead to sites that are in Russian.
Stuff like that.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 may as well just delete those links, nobody would click on them anyway
 
Yes, I can see that as a matter of style you might want to do something that changes the content. Still feels a little weird
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, no true Russian would link to them from an English-speaking site. The first rule of Fight Club and all.
The Russian part of the Internet is self-containing.
It even has its own name, Runet.
 
3:41 PM
so, not some much inter then
 
Exactly.
 
unless that's now short for internal
 
Nobody uses Google there. And everybody uses ICQ.
 
It's a world of its own.
 
3:42 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 Can... can you take me there?
 
Learn Russian.
 
вью
 
That makes just as much sense as its English equivalent DM:
 
Пуц куцал ацт.
 
hey, @Reg, you never told me whether you've been to vladivostok
 
3:44 PM
Well, you never told me whether you've been to Castrop-Rauxel, either.
 
(it is, of course, way on the other side of the continent from you)
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I'm just button mashing with my keyboard set to Russian layout.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 but you never asked me whether i've been to Castrop-Rauxel
 
@Mahnax No, really?
@JSBᾶngs And you never asked me whether I've been to Vladivostok.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 i pinged you yesterday with that question. you must have missed it.
 
3:45 PM
Oh? Then I apologize.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I lied. I tried to make it look like words, so I spaced them and made the first letter uppercase. It was careful button mashing.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 np.
 
@JSBᾶngs HAVE you been to Castrop-Rauxel? Because now I'm curious
 
Пуц ("putz") is plausibly a real Russian word
@MrShinyandNew安宇 i've never even HEARD of Castrop-Rauxel
 
@JSBᾶngs and куцал is plausibly a real Russian verb in past tense.
In fact that's a valid sentence right there.
 
3:47 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 true
but ацт does not look much like a real word
 
Bah. Just about, then.
 
@JSBᾶngs Works for me.
Also, it could be an acronym.
 
@JSBᾶngs now you know where to go for your next vacation
 
@Mahnax i know only epsilon russian. i'm only guessing here based on a general knowledge of russian phonotactics.
@RegDwightѬſ道 it's not forbidden by Russian phonology, but really how many words end in -tsC?
 
Seven. No wait, eight.
 
3:49 PM
@JSBᾶngs Hm. I don't know any Russian. Except Pushka, as it is my friend's cat's name.
13 hours ago, by JSBᾶngs
so random question: has anyone here ever been to Vladivostok? maybe @Reg or @Jasper?
 
I am pretty sure we had a user from Vladivostok.
 

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