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@TARDISMaker Cool!
02:00
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ This downsampling thing is just so ironic. They compress video to make it use less bandwidth with 4:2:2 compression and such, and then people up the resolution to avoid the 4:2:2 artifacts and end up wasting space. They should rather provide 4k uncompressed than 8k at this point. or HD uncompressed rather than 4k.
what if you have an 8k tv?
8k uncompressed ftw
24 Gbps
@iKlsR I've been chatting with troy about HDRIs, racked up 2.6k video.
actually 48Gbps, sorry
damn
never mind
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ 8k uncompressed is virtually useless in most viewing conditions.
02:02
unless your face is slammed up against the screen
Honestly I am sick of people reacting to technology, instead of keeping pace
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ yes, so they should be focusing on using up the bandwidth to improve display on current tech.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I agree. I'm just saying its wasteful to support 8k when they don't even do 4k properly
ikr? I can agree with that
02:03
totally
:D
I have no idea what to do. I don't think I've ever come to agreement before
lol
ps, can you send me your friend's VR headset?
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ No.... D:
lol
If you ever see one on sale, let me know
I want to get into developing VR stuff
I'm leaning towards the HTC Vive right now, although if occulus touch wasn't so expensive I'd go with that for sure
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I thing the Vive is cool. It can do pretty much everything the Oculus can do, and then some more. Its also a tiny bit more comfortable
02:10
(although your face sweats something unreal in both of them)
I bet :/
I'd probably be using it for only 30 minutes at a time though
Its like "Look I'm in the future" But I can't see it because my face mask is flooding with my own sweat!
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ 30 minutes becomes 5 hours. You only take it off to pass out from exhaustion.
Looks like you can get them used on Ebay for around 650-700 USD atm
@GiantCowFilms Note taken
When you do take them off, you feel the same way you feel after staying up for 24 + hours solid
02:13
And your eyes hurt from all that near focusing on the screens.
Probably cause headaches for some
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Did for me, and made me feel sick. Didn't feel better for the rest of the day.
At least the headset was way more comfortable than the Hololens. The Hololens felt like a pair of glasses that keeps slipping down, and the head band give you a headache very quickly.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ totally.
without question
02:16
Has anyone from the blender SE ever gone and trolled the photography SE chat with photorealistic renders?
I wouldn't buy one though, Unless I was planning to develop it.
I am planning on developing something for it, main reason I am actually interested now. Besides, I need something to do with my beast PC
@10Replies nope, not a bad idea though
If only we had something photoreal enough
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I have my HDRIs. Those eat memory faster than a million tabs of google chrome
And I already have a million tabs of google chrome open.
lol, I bet
I just closed a dozen from researching used HTC vives . . .
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I don't close tabs
02:18
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I'm still beginnerish so I don't have an extensive portfolio yet.
they multiply until chrome crashes
@10Replies We are all beginners :)
@GiantCowFilms wow
@10Replies I've been doing this for the last 5 years and I still have virtually no portfolio. And all of what I do have is rubbish.
I am organized, so I close them often. I have quite a few bookmarks though i use frequently
02:19
even worse, 90% of my output came from like 4 months.
@GiantCowFilms What antivirus/antimalware etc do you guys use?
Pretty much all my renders are test renders. I haven't fully completed a full project yet.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ OSX + common sense ;)
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Microsoft Forfront Endpoint protection or something like that.
ah
oh right, I can understand why
02:21
@10Replies I have. But most people would say "Dude, that needs more work before you can even call it a test render"
What is your opinion on Trend Micro and Kaspersky, or have you even thought about it?
@GiantCowFilms I know the feeling . . .
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Never thought about it. Dad pays for and manages antivirus and backup.
I actually have one finished project that I made for my sister
The default cube last for several days before I finally delete it, then it is just empty sorrowful silence until I recover and have heart to actually make anything, and then I delete it all half way through and start over anyways . . .
@10Replies blue fire
kewl
My biggest issue is the only reason to finish a project is that people say "wow you are so talented" so there is no motivation not to be totally ambitious and tweak until perfect. As a result there is very low output.
The other thing is that I generally inevitably get sidetracked on some software problem.
Wow, newest thing is 7 months old already on my ArtStation
Although that planet thingy was a fun diversion
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I hate looking at your portfolio. It ruins my perception of being an adequate human being.
I'm working on this huge project for my school... and... uh... I put a fire simulation behind it so that they would be super impressed at the little work that I did...
02:25
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ That was a compliment.
lol
At least it isn't over textured
I like your naming processes... tornado + fire... firenado
Your image was better than all of the sharknados combined
2
simple, and works . . . mostly
@10Replies lol
oh no
After watching all those 8k videos, now there is a video I want to watch but it is 480p!!!!!
What do I do?
I recommend looking at the almost 8k version of my crappy demo render drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxf7lERLL3TlbUZEYkpwU1hXeXM/…
240p ftw
02:32
no . . . just no
love how it says Hi res . . .
ikr :D
Just left the preview render on... and the camera was in between the panels of glass in the sliding door
02:56
@10Replies looking good
 
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04:34
@10Replies Now that is an awesome way to make basic stuff look awesome - throw fire behind it!
 
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05:52
13 Subs!
Awesome!
 
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14:08
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ none. Win defender is on, but because windows update is broken, it is probably doing nothing.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ in my opinion if you are just looking for a PC thing, then just go for one of the free ones. (I have used Avira in the past, but there may be better ones now.)
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ last time I had something you could call a virus, was back many years ago, and running all that anti junk.
well, no offense, but you don't seem to be much of an expert :P
I agree that nothing beats being cautious though
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ on offense taken, I know what you mean.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ if you just watch the url bar, what you are really clicking on, plus turn off flash and java by default, then you are probably safe from 90% of the stuff.
yeah, flash isn't even installed on this machine
14:18
wow, good for you.
but I would miss it.
@GiantCowFilms and to make this "first" even more special, I agree with you too. (there's one you don't see every day) :)
for the "normal" home use 8k is stupid.
kinda of the same as back a few years ago when all the phone makers were racing to pack more and more pixels in to the screens. "But guys we can't even see those, there's too many of them." However the marking guys always win "highest ppi in any screen!"
well, the more ppi could be critical if mobile VR takes off
I can understand why the cameras need to shoot at crazy resolutions, but final output - 4k is plenty enough.
correction, 4k uncompressed
compression artifacts are the bane of YouTube
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ dont think so. remember apples marketing line "retina display" you really can't see any more pixels, our naked eyes just dont look at dots that small.
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ O definitely, I was just talking screen size.
VR uses lenses to make it seem like the screen is several feet away, and much larger
You actually can see individual lines of pixels if it is too low res
14:30
interesting.
so the VR stuff will jam more pixels in there, but for a phone 1920 x 1080 is good
pretty much
anything over just adds a little sharpness, not worth the extra ppi imo
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ not worth the extra battery drain.
TTFN
 
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17:38
Anecdotal comment. Finnair flight 666 to Helsinki (HEL) departs every day from Copenhagen. Flies on Friday the 13th as well. — J. Hougaard 19 hours ago
 
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20:49
why did u guys star my typo?
jurks
21:13
New video uploading now
@Ward it made the joke funnier TBH.
(fat always sounds funnier when said with a long a sound)
lol
@Ward and since you are far from fat, saying, "I'm pretty faat" is funny!
lol
I'm afraid yes.
This is a sign that the end is coming
had better delete the evidence...
he agreed with me yesterday
it was weird
21:28
ok, this in insanity.
The question is, who is going insane?
I can't be NID,
Normally I'd say cow, but he just agreed with me!
which only leaves one person...
MUAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!
I'm insane
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@X-27 by agreeing with me, your insane, and @NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ is insane
yes - but why does agreeing with cow make you insane, unless.....
21:30
we are all insane
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to an outside viewer, yah.
I'm CraZy !!!
im sane
@Ward Nope, your not...
2 mins ago, by NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ
we are all insane
@Ward I disagree. Oh wait, yeah you are sane.
D:
hello darkness
Doctored!
nope
check the site, I just snipped it
it's 699,9xx
easy enough if you happen to be prepared
Easy enough to doctor also...
wut is wut?
@X-27 yup. But I didn't
21:36
who didnt why?
when?
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Yes, but I did,
And I wasn't prepared either...
21:36
doctored for sure
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Pretty!
 ^
Hideous gradient
 ^
Hideous*
@10Replies i have almost 6x your rep. lmaooooo
I joined 3 months ago
21:38
i havent done this site in a while
I'm just casually trying things (and failing) in blender and then asking relevant questions.
Occasionally I get my act together to make cool gifs for answers
OK, how is that, you "hideous gradient" people
@gandalf3 it is themed after you...
nice
why did you change the numbers though?
@gandalf3 could tell you the significance of the first three of those numbers
@10Replies the tag is for drivers in blender, not system drivers for peripherals.
Oh yeah, sorry, I keep forgetting....
thats ok
22:05
@X-27 hah
@X-27 :O
Watch andrew price's fire tutorial. youtube.com/watch?v=u-zK7Bu8cAI. Your fire could be much better.
my fire?
or somebody else?
@10Replies you can just type the "@" and the first letter, then press tab.
@10replies hmm It doesn't work for my name
22:11
fore example to get your name I just do "@1" tab then keep typing.
sure it does, just you can't ping yourself.
Does @D + tab go to @David when you type it?
yep :)
as a chat tip, @dav would also go to me :)
@dav How do you get shortcut usernames?
watch: @10r
just the way the chat pings work.
Oh, so first three letters work
22:13
yep
What if someone's username is dave?
I'm not 100% sure, I think it will ping whoever you tab over to, and it you just typed "@dav" it would ping the most recently active in the room.
I just noticed how many daves there are..
@dave what good timing.
I just made that account lol. It doesn't have 20 rep tho..
22:17
that is what i thought :)
O, hold on I can make it so he can chat.
Yay!
@dave try now
@10Replies pinged me
Pinged me too...
lol
22:18
interesting
@10Replies I know I could do much better, but decent looking fire takes a LONG time to do...
try tabing over to one of our names
@X-27 Just increasing the resolution makes your fire 10x better
Whichever person chatted last is first in the username tab list
@dave and would make it bake 10x slower.
I had the resolution much higher, and cranked it down because I was too impatient.
22:20
@10Replies yep, and I thought that carried over to who it pinged.
@x-27 Also true... but this is why we play videogames
Some day I'll take the time to make the fire sim look decent.
@X-27 its really not as a painfull if your just rendering a small demo scene with an X.
Its a pain in the ass if you are adding a smoke simulation to an already huge scene
@10Replies very true - but I'm still impatient...
22:26
@X-27 i will watch it
22:41
@Ward was it any good?
nods head
oh good. I wasn't as happy with that one as with others...
you should do VO
23:16
9* and dropping. Cryofreeze activated.
outside?
yes
it was -20 earlier inside
Yikes!
-20 inside
as in, 52 degrees below freezing!?!?!?
what was it like outside!?!??!
cold
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ same is
cus my window. but it was only 9
not -20 lmao
@X-27 15
luckily it was an ice-cream maker
the house was around 75
23:28
@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ uhhg.
I bet Grant Thompson's house is -321°
at least, in his Liquid Nitrogen....

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