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GiantCowFilms

01:56

Does anyone have advice on how to east a lobster?

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ @David

GiantCowFilms

02:25

Lobster eaten

mehh

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

02:44

I have never eaten a lobster, so no

My dad would literally die if he did, so I am a little cautious when it comes to seafood

ARadish

@GiantCowFilms you gotta boil them

and then eat the tail

they aren't that great

you can also eat the legs

GiantCowFilms

03:19

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Is he allergic?

@ARadish They came boiled

and I ate the tail

@ARadish agreed

@ARadish meh, skipped that.

kim holder

lobster bisque can be really good...

GiantCowFilms

@kimholder these were just strait up boiled

My mom doesn't cook fancy soups

kim holder

in that case the liberal application of butter really helps :]

GiantCowFilms

its either boiled, broiled, or steamed.

@kimholder I did that.

kim holder

was this a special occasion or something? sounds like you've never come across it before.

GiantCowFilms

03:23

@kimholder No

Good ones aren't easy to get.

These ones were specially flown in.

kim holder

ooo

GiantCowFilms

So we just bought 'em, since they were only there for one day.

kim holder

yeah, it's like that. we are only 3 hours from the pacific and they still cost a lot.

GiantCowFilms

Do lobsters live in those waters

I thought they were mainly a newengland thing

Acc. wikipeida, not just any ocean will do

kim holder

well, they like rocky spots. other than that, i think you can find them anywhere.

maybe different species, but basically lobsters

we have seen them a couple of times while snorkeling, tucked in rocky crevices.

GiantCowFilms

03:32

Oh okay

anyway, cya tomorrow, g2g

kim holder

cheers

David

03:55

@GiantCowFilms I thought that was a joke until I read the rest of the transcript.

(yeah in New England lobster is very common)

as in every food store year round.

@GiantCowFilms you can eat nearly the whole thing (except for the stomach region). But the claw and tail meat is the best.

LOL 5 stars on the iKlsR is a scary mod message.

and @NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ you never had lobster either? Up there is it harder to find? (I know the price would be stupid, but even once?)

PS @GiantCowFilms what was the price per pound for your lobster? (I'm expecting to be shocked again, like I was when talking gas prices)

ARadish

@David you know whats shocking?

David

@iKlsR well you could ask Gwenn, he made it... I looked it over and I think sapling-addon would be good. (I dont really have a problem with it as it is, but whatever.)

@ARadish lighting

ARadish

$95 an once for cannabis rn.

$95

David

@ARadish ok, and why would you know that???

dont tell me you do drugs

@iKlsR I went ahead and renamed it. consider it done.

ARadish

@David because i do...

David

04:09

@ARadish Really?

ARadish

no

not really

David

I thought that they kill your brain

ARadish

but still, the prices are really high]

David

@ARadish ok, thats good

kim holder

alcohol kills the brain better than anything

ARadish

04:10

@David they do, and quite honestly, itś really hard to smoke without choking

David

@ARadish I for on have no idea the street prices around here.

ARadish

@David so hereś the difference, around here, there aren't "street prices"

because you don't sell in the street unless you have to

David

right, you just go to walmart

ARadish

. . .

lol

\that would be crazy

David

(actually that is a popular place around here walmart's parking lot)

ARadish

04:13

waow

don't your walmart parking lots have security cameras?

David

I dont know what it is like in your part of the world, but here the drug problem is crazy.

@ARadish sure, but that doesn't stop them

ARadish

@David ...

you in chicago or something?

David

@ARadish nope, you know my state

the police logs are filled with "drug related incidents"

ARadish

i do?

David

ok, if you forgot thats good.

ARadish

04:15

@David well, they are here, too, but actually legalizing marijuana really helped with that.

(not that people stopeed doing drugs, but they started using legal ones)

David

@ARadish all I say now is chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/30926299#30926299

ARadish

19 mins ago, by David

(yeah in New England lobster is very common)

@David ok

kim holder

as a person who lives in a country that exports a whole lotta drugs, let me say that legalization is good. really, really, really good.

and thus, i have very strong opinions about it. cuz people die around here. a lot.

David

@ARadish dont think that would help here, it is all heroin and fentanyl

ARadish

@kimholder it great for the government, and for the lower classes, but it kinda screws up the middle and upper classes

@David yah, here is mostly crack and heroin

kim holder

04:17

how so?

David

@kimholder bro, I have seen too many people die from drugs to make it OK to use them.

kim holder

people die from addiction. not from drugs. alcoholism kills more than any illegal drug.

and if they were legal, they'd be a LOT safer, because there would be standards.

ARadish

@kimholder well for the governments, they have a lot less "criminals" to deal with, but rich white kids who haven been exposed before start up...

kim holder

making things illegal doesn't reduce addiction, it just makes it a whole lot more dangerous.

David

@kimholder I'll never buy that. But you have your opinion and I can have mine.

kim holder

04:20

i have thought about it a lot. researched it too. i understand that people who feel differently feel that way because they think it is a health issue.

but you don't live in a place where cartels have so much power they can decide who gets elected. where they can do really whatever they please.

ARadish

@kimholder idk kim

personally, iǘe used marijuana, which is legal here, but iǘe tried to stay away from illegal stuff.

kim holder

i don't mean i read an article or two. i mean i have researched it extensively.

ARadish

iǘe researched it personally. :D

the one time i tried something illegal was pretty bad

kim holder

when you buy stuff sold by criminals, it can be pretty bad. crapshoot. cuz why should they care?

ARadish

itś called keddamine. not sure how to spell that

it was really dank

i think they use it to tranquilze animals for vaccines and stuff

kim holder

04:23

ketamine. that is strong stuff. it can be dangerous, and very hard to dose with correctly.

ARadish

@kimholder ok, that was really hard. ok

so staying legal sounds dandy to me

kim holder

beddy-bye for me. this is just a trigger issue for me, and i couldn't not say anything.

cheers ;)

ARadish

@kimholder bye

David

@kimholder ok, I really tried not to get started but, why should laws change that? If they are criminals now, why should legalizing their product, and setting up a bunch of safe guards and licensing make any difference? If they break the laws now, why should we expect it to be any different, when there are more laws for them to break?

ARadish

@David exactly

kim holder

04:27

for the same reason alcohol was a lot more dangerous when it was illegal

because when it is legal, it is sold by responsible businesses with clients, who have to comply with laws

David

@kimholder there were a LOT less deaths because of alcohol then too.

kim holder

moonshine can be dangerous

not to mention the people shot in the street

David

@kimholder sure that is true of the "good guys" but they are not the ones selling it now.

kim holder

when did you last here about liquor stores shooting each other over territory?

if you make it legal, the bad guys have no more reason to sell it

but you have to go the whole 9 yards. you have to regulate production, dosage, labelling,

David

@kimholder when did you hear of a drunk driver causing a death during prohibition?

kim holder

04:29

sales, taxes

ARadish

@David lol

kim holder

you seem to think people stopped drinking...

they did not

David

@kimholder I know, but this goes both ways.

ARadish

@kimholder but there was less

kim holder

no. there wasn't.

ARadish

04:30

there was

kim holder

i challenge you to prove that.

David

drugs are illegal now, and we have deaths. If this mirrors alcohol we will ahve MANY more deaths because it is not legal and open for everybody.

ARadish

@kimholder iǘe been around before and after legalization of marijuana, so lets use that as an example.

kim holder

specifically, that there was less addiction

casual use can be affected by laws. addiction is not.

ARadish

@kimholder iḿ sure there are other people like me

kim holder

04:32

use of marijuana is preferable to use of alcohol when we are talking about heavy use. by a long shot.

ARadish

the only reason i ever smoked weed, was because is legal

kim holder

well, there you go. perfect example.

believe me, you weren't harmed by that.

David

@kimholder OK, so then legalizing it wouldn't help anything! you just said that addiction is not affected by laws. So the only thing to be gained is the risk of many more people being exposed to drugs.

ARadish

@kimholder no, i wasn't majorly harmed. but i wouldn have done it at all if it wasn't legal

kim holder

being exposed to drugs is not a problem. at all. especially when you know what you are getting, and how to use it, and it is responsibly made.

see, this is the point. there is nothing more dangerous than heavy use of alcohol.

ARadish

04:34

@kimholder thatś not what iḿ saying... >:|

David

@kimholder NOT true, I've been to drug awareness events and such that talks about "gateway drugs"

ARadish

kim holder

the war on drugs is based on a lot of distortion and bad science

by the way, i can't see the image.

David

and this is why I started out by saying "But you have your opinion and I can have mine."

I knew we could only get in to an argument

@kimholder no image, just white space

ARadish

why are we even talking about this, guys?

kim holder

04:36

i just want you to be aware that my opinion is based on extensive research. and i have strong feelings about it because i've seen a side of it you never have.

ARadish

not a constructive argument

kim holder

i don't see how it is a problem. it is an important thing to talk about. i have no less respect for david.

not that i know him very well..

David

@kimholder I got that, back at the start. Yet I think you under estimate what I do know about this, and are just rubing me off as another anti drug nut.

ARadish

@kimholder you've got your studies, i have first hand experience

David

@kimholder same can be said from me to you.

kim holder

04:38

no, i'm not. but i have done enough work on this that i can have an extensive argument about the main ways drug laws are usually defended.

trying a few drugs a little is anecdotal evidence. it has no real bearing.

David

ok, anyway I got to go

ARadish

@kimholder there was less use, and less abuse before legalization here at least.

@David bye david

David

later

kim holder

g'night

@ARadish when legalization comes in there tends to be a 'party period'. then things calm down.

ARadish

@kimholder how long does party period last?

kim holder

04:41

i need to sleep too. it just really is something important to me. people have been gunned down in broad daylight by cartel members in my town, who walked away and remain powerful.

seriously, there is a side to this that doesn't even get reported to the outside world

@ARadish you could look at the case of Portugal, or the Netherlands. they have stats on that.

anyway... goodnight :]

ARadish

@kimholder ok, i got someone in portugal, iĺl ask him

@kimholder goodnight

GiantCowFilms

06:12

@David $11.99 per pound

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

12:41

@David super expensive and my dad is deadly allergic and I have never tried it for myself because I don't want to die

someonewithpc

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Allergic to what?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Shellfish as a whole

We used to go to Maine all the time too, could of had some great lobster there

ngo ductri

13:11

@Matt yeah man, I just started to learn cycle, (I used modo bfore) and by far it's the most intuitive 3d software I ever tried. I just love it. The main reason I like internal is because the render result look somewhat "unrealistic" and it's fast ( I dont have CUDA :( )

Cody

16:48

@someonewithpc maybe not a washing machine since it can not simulate itself , a 3d printer maybe lol

@David @root java is not that bad

David

17:09

@Cody that was an old message... you been gone for a while?

user208519

@Cody why are you telling me this ?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

17:28

good afternoon folkses of the interwebs!

GiantCowFilms

@root I agree with you on python and java being awful

although java isn't that bad from a writing standpoint, more of a what it takes to run standpoint

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

python is fun

GiantCowFilms

I find it hard to read....

the indents are confusing to me

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

really?

GiantCowFilms

yeah

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

17:30

Do you not indent normal code?!

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I do

the brackets just make it a little clearer

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

I agree

GiantCowFilms

also, I just generally don't like the syntax

but its not that bad.

just not my favorite

few languages are genuinely awful.

(except for those made to be awful)

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@GiantCowFilms no, on a scale of 1-10 I'd say 8.5-9

@GiantCowFilms absolutely agree

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I'd put it at about a 6

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

17:32

ok

GiantCowFilms

PHP at about an 8

c++ at about a 7

java about a 6 as well

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

what is at 10?

GiantCowFilms

javascript goes at 5

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ nothing

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

. . .

GiantCowFilms

That is where a perfect language would go

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

17:33

why the unused portion of the scale? Adjust it to get more precision

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I only know few langauges, so I'm leaving room for better ones

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@GiantCowFilms My scale is adjusted to current languages, so I think we pretty much agree

@GiantCowFilms ok

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I'd just add decimals if I need more precision

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Okay, re-adjusting

PHP is 10

C++ 8

Java 7

python 6.5

javascript, 5

(I didn't scale down

now, inorder to use the entire scale,

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

ah, 1/5 of 6 is .5 good to know

GiantCowFilms

assembly 1

:P

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

17:36

:P

@Alex are you the same alex that lurks and had the creepy profile pic? Just want to make sure I know who I'm talking to

Guilty Silence has spoken!

user208519

17:51

@GiantCowFilms to me python is not a real programming language , and i'm ready to be hated for saying this X)

user208519

at least in blender all we do is import and use prexisting modules that import other modules.. at the end you will find a wrapper for an external low level language.

user208519

the indentation is also stup.., a bad idea, python is interpreted .. extra chars have to be skipped everytime it's evaluated

user208519

and i did say it's a bad "programming language" , for it to be picky about mixing tabs and spaces means it's meant for people who make art
I mean who cares if your code looks cute? yep,artists.

user208519

and it was just an opinion and i put that there to fill the blank space,not sure why david thinks i need help for having a different opinion than his

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

18:16

@root Yeah, it's a scripting language

@root lol, we appreciate differing opinions. It proves that not everyone is like me, which is a huge relief

ARadish

18:36

haroo family

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

the what?

ARadish

just hi

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

ok . .. I'm not family to you :P

ARadish

i can't even call you that?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

well you can say whatever you want

doesn't make it accurat

e

ARadish

18:44

wow. calm down

just saying hi

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol, I am super calm

just setting here chillin'

Misinterpreted that I think

ARadish

20:02

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ 1/5 of 6 is 1.2..

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

20:36

I know

someonewithpc

21:33

Portugal just won the Euro Cup! :D

ARadish

@someonewithpc yay!

someonewithpc

Yay! :D

@ARadish (I didn't even watch most of the game :P)

"I don't like footbal, I only watch it for the ads! Bleeeeh"

ARadish

i didn't watch any, but thats still great

Edity

Hullo

someonewithpc

@Edity Hello!

Edity

21:45

this chat is so quiet yet so welcoming and kind :]

someonewithpc

@Edity Not that quiet

Edity

ok

do you need to ping me every time

someonewithpc

When there are enough people around

Edity

(i'm not mad at you)

someonewithpc

@Edity No..?

Edity

21:46

@someonewithpc See how annoying pinging can be?

someonewithpc

No..?

Edity

@someonewithpc When you abuse this feature?

anyways,

someonewithpc

I have the ping sounds on for all

Edity

what is blender?

art software?

someonewithpc

3D software

And much more

Edity

21:48

oh

someonewithpc

Primarily for art, yeah

Why do you ask?

ARadish

@Edity Pinging isn't annoying, it's just letting people know who you are talking to.

someonewithpc

And what you're replying to

ARadish

@someonewithpc right

Edity

@someonewithpc i never used blender

ARadish

21:50

@Edity you should

someonewithpc

^^

ARadish

@Edity always use blender, for everything

someonewithpc

Need to order a cake? Make one in Blender instead! It's just as tasty! (YMMV)

Apr 9 at 1:13, by gandalf3

Edity

22:17

whay does it say congrats david

someonewithpc

I can't remember...

X-27

23:44

@Edity he filled the review que for the 20th time....

i've gotten it... let me see. oh yes. ONCE.

he has gotten it (as of april) 20 times!

@David how many are you up to now?

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