The Renderfarm

Peter Varo

00:00

anyway @Qwertieϟ I don't like JS but it is damn fast thanks to the V8 engine

so are you in a web developing or something?

Vader

@ThomBlairIII I wonder what @iklsr will think of this

Thom Blair III

#BanNSFW

#AvertEyes

#AvertMouse

Vader

!!summon 8888

Thom Blair III

I don't know about you, Vader, but I for one am not offended by seashells.

#SomePeople

smh

Vader

@ThomBlairIII as long as it is nsfw it should be fine imo

Thom Blair III

00:03

@Vader your magical powers will not avail you this time Vader

@Vader XD

speaking of which, where are @Scales & @Iklsr?

still in exams?

Peter Varo

the only problem I find on that picture is her face

I don't like her face..

Thom Blair III

@PeterVaro choose a grain of sand and focus on that until you can't think of anything else, then look back...it might help.

Vader

@PeterVaro don't look at her than ;)

Thom Blair III

not everyone's perfect.

alas

Peter Varo

Oh I'm watching a video atm, so I won't ;)

Thom Blair III

00:06

she's in a video? where?

Qwertie ϟ

I keep acidentily trying to use blenders shortcuts in Unity3D

Peter Varo

nope, a blender video :)

gandalf3

I keep trying to use blender shorcuts everywhere..

Thom Blair III

@Qwertieϟ OMG! Me too! I've got brain-hotkey-rot from using blender too much!

Peter Varo

@gandalf3 +1

gandalf3

00:07

Everyone should make their shortcuts the same as blender.. :P

Thom Blair III

yep

Vader

I am used to it by now

sometimes I try to select all though

Thom Blair III

I'm always doing a

ugg

it never works

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 Dear unity3d, Please set all of your short cuts to match blender. Thanks

Vader

dear unity3d be cheaper

Qwertie ϟ

00:10

@Vader XD

gandalf3

Be open source ;)

Vader

wow the questions per day has gone up by 2 over the last 3 weeks

I wish BGE would die already

so devs can focus on real stuff

gandalf3

@Vader I wish it was brought to life

Vader

I could do without it

Thom Blair III

I want it to SIRI & Watson integrated into it

Vader

00:11

never used it since we got proper physics

gandalf3

There is so much more it could do though

blog.mikepan.com/post/55671023688/…

Thom Blair III

do the devs get paid or are they full-time somewhere else?

gandalf3

Some are full time to the BF

Qwertie ϟ

Did anyone else notice stack exchange go down yesterday?

gandalf3

Yes, I did

Thom Blair III

00:14

nope

gandalf3

Blender.org too

(and no, strangely enough it wasn't me)

Qwertie ϟ

23

A: All sites were down

We are working on mitigating a DDoS Attack: https://twitter.com/StackStatus/status/455249315112701953

second time this year

Thom Blair III

OOO, Sony attacked us??! conspiracy?!?

2

somebody that got downboated too often

probably

somebody wasn't allowed to graduate from beta on time

a villan is born!

I wonder if the hackers were doing lots of DDoS attacks to keep all the tech support people busy while the hackers worked on the heartbleeds?

plausible or not? you be the judge

Qwertie ϟ

@ThomBlairIII The first one was before heartbleed

Thom Blair III

hmm

Qwertie ϟ

00:20

@ThomBlairIII They knew about it before us :0

Thom Blair III

maybe it was the 5 year old boy that decided to go big time!

Qwertie ϟ

@ThomBlairIII He wants more than just xbox passwords

Vader

@Qwertieϟ repost

Qwertie ϟ

@Vader ?

Thom Blair III

now he needs candy & staying up past 7pm
#NewDemands

What will he demand next?!

Qwertie ϟ

00:25

@ThomBlairIII To Microsoft: Give me unlimited xbox live and you can have your private key back

Thom Blair III

I couldn't believe they only gave him 4 games and a subscription! For being such a detective! Kinda stingy, unless the 4 games have like 80+ hours of gameplay each (not including side missions + DLC), in which case, those 4 games might take him longer than he's been alive

Qwertie ϟ

:( importing .blend files does not work with unity in wine

gandalf3

I can't get unity to run at all in wine..

Thom Blair III

btw, do you ever wonder what alias people like Andrew Price & maybe Ton go by here?

do you ever think they sneak around looking so they don''t get bombarded by questions etc?

gandalf3

idk, but

Ton Roosendaal, Amsterdam, Netherlands

590 6

Qwertie ϟ

00:30

@gandalf3 forum.unity3d.com/threads/…

gandalf3

Andrew Price

1

Thom Blair III

maybe that's just what he wants us to think...
???!?

did I mention I have paranoid schizophrenia?

it's fun to play with, actually, as long as I keep it funny

gandalf3

@Qwertieϟ I tried that.. I'll have to give it another go

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 Try the latest script

gandalf3

There's another one besides the one of the first post?

Qwertie ϟ

00:34

@gandalf3 the 9th page

gandalf3

Thanks

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 first one didn't work for me ether

Vader

use fbx

all unity does is export as fbx and import it

it can't read blend files natively

Qwertie ϟ

@Vader That worked

Vader

yeah unity can't actually read any blender maya or max files, it is just a bad lie

Qwertie ϟ

00:41

@Vader Better then nothing

Thom Blair III

I wonder if Blender or Rigify will ever get an overhaul with facial manipulation & presets, like DAZ3D...DAZ is REALLY awesome in that department!

have you guys ever tried DAZ3D?

I was really impressed with their facial & letter pronunciation presets & controls

they give it away for free buy make you pay for everything else, all the models and their modeling program Hexagon doesn't work on my mac

so I found Blender

Vader

daz3d sucks

Thom Blair III

what don't you like about it?

Vader

it is cheating

you are not really creating

Thom Blair III

cheating is in the eye of the beholder

gandalf3

00:46

lol

Thom Blair III

you can create an atmosphere, ambience, a work of art, rather than a mesh

it's a differnt form of art than modeling with mesh & modifiers etc

a different "medium" if you will

different skill set

they have amazing facial and body movement controls...I was really bummed when I tried to use rigify after daz

do any of you use Poser?

is it any good?

gandalf3

I wish the number of steps in the screw modifier could be set lower..

Thom Blair III

how low can it go?

gandalf3

2

Thom Blair III

can you modify the modifier?

gandalf3

00:49

Not unless you know C

Thom Blair III

that sounds like a line from The Matrix

"Can the Modifier be Modified?"

do you know c?

what would you do with less than two?

#rhymedAgain

(how low can it go?)

what would you do with steps less than two?

gandalf3

@ThomBlairIII Get rid of all these extra loopcuts

Thom Blair III

Loopcuts begone, notify Ton!

To the devs we will write, to plead of our plight!

can you post a screen shot?

Vader

a screenshot

gandalf3

I already fixed it with a decimate modifier..

Thom Blair III

00:56

Decimate is our friend! It worked in the end!

Anybody want a peanut?

#PrincessBride

►

gandalf3

This is not a default cube

It's a one-vertex cube

Thom Blair III

Wow, what a surprise! I can't believe my eyes!

How did you do it, what is the secret? Come and tell us, we promise we'll keep it!

XD

THOM IS A BARD, IT'S NOT THAT HARD

:D

seriously, how did you make it? what's your stack look like?

gandalf3

Here is the blend, my friend: pasteall.org/blend/28425

:P

Vader

did you use the skin modifier?

gandalf3

Nope

Too easy

Thom Blair III

01:04

what does the build do?

I don't get it

gandalf3

It gets rid of one of the double faces

I'm sure there is a better way to do this..

Thom Blair III

uh, is there anyway you can describe how build does that? I thought it was only for animating

should I ask it as a question?

if so, how should I even phrase it so you can explain it? I thought it was only for time lapse animation

Vader

@ThomBlairIII it is a hack

Thom Blair III

this is the awesome tricks I like to learn with modifiers & stuff like that

Vader

the dupe faces were created last

so he times the build to cut them off at the right ppint

... i think

gandalf3

01:09

Yep

Total hack

Thom Blair III

what does hack mean in this circumstance?

gandalf3

It means the cube will get messed up if you play the animation..

Thom Blair III

does that mean you modified the code? or is it just a way of using the modifier to achieve an end other than the most obvious one?

Vader

it means it shouldn't work and is a very dirty trick that only works under specific circumstances, eg. only works on one frame in this case

gandalf3

I used a modifier in a way it was not meant to be used, with the result that strange things happen in some cases

@Vader Well, it works on frames 35-90, but yes, that's about it

Thom Blair III

01:12

@gandalf3 ok, that's what I thought you meant...yeah, hacks are neat to learn

Vader

@gandalf3 well same concept. A specific time range

Thom Blair III

I like to call them tricks to differentiate from nefarious things like destructive hacking

but I'm getting used to the term

I'm working back through your stack to see if I can learn the whole idea...I feel like I'm in Hogwarts

Oh, I had no idea the screw modifier would do that...the Screw.001 modifier made extrusions of the edge

gandalf3

Yep

It actually extruded it out and then back again (that's where the double faces came from)

Thom Blair III

what does the first decimate do again? I don't get it...is it necessary to make the cube or is it just to get rid of the non-manifold double faces? Meaning, is it necessary constructively or is it just aesthetic?

it seems to be just aesthetic

gandalf3

It gets rid of the extra edges

Useful if you want a wireframe modifier or something

Thom Blair III

01:25

oh, you mean the edges of the 3 folded faces from the Screw.001?

gandalf3

yes

Thom Blair III

so then it makes the 3 faces into one face?

gandalf3

Not quite

There are actualy six faces

Thom Blair III

six?

gandalf3

It makes them into 3

Convert to mesh and you'll see

Thom Blair III

01:30

it looks like 3...

gandalf3

They are split in the middle

Alt+C

>mesh

Thom Blair III

uh, do I apply any modifers before I convert to mesh?

gandalf3

Convert to mesh will apply the modifiers

Thom Blair III

I converted to mesh and this is all I see in edit mode (those are the vertex normals)

do I have to turn off some of the modifiers before converting to mesh?

gandalf3

Oh, yes

Disable everything after the second screw

Thom Blair III

01:37

you mean the first screw? there's only one

gandalf3

?

There should be two

Thom Blair III

oh, I accidentally applied one a long time ago...reloading now...

Sintel

1

Q: Apply vertex paint to a vertex

Through the user interface, you paint a vertex by hitting V in 3D View, and clicking on a vertex. How can this be achieved in Python?

python

Thom Blair III

@gandalf3 I did that and now I only see 2 faces:

oh, do I have to unfold it to see the 3 panels overlapping before converting to mesh?

gandalf3

It would help

But they are there

Just on top of each other

Thom Blair III

01:41

got it

ok, now I'm just a bit lost on why the first screw makes 3 separate vertices spaced apart...I see the 3 steps, but why does it make them like 3 line segments...

gandalf3

?

Thom Blair III

yeah, same here, I'm confused...
:P

XD

Vader

^^ repost

Thom Blair III

#OldiesButGoodies!

#maybe?

Vader

#notReallyThat0Ld

Thom Blair III

01:49

still applicable after all of these posts

Vader

^ _ ^

Thom Blair III

no, I just made it this morning while I was reminiscing about how confused I was when I first started asking questions here about the alpha overlay node

I think I need to play with the screw modifier to see how it works so I can see how it'd do that to the point

but right now, I think my brain is indeed fried...but thanks for the tutorials Gandalf! Super neat!

I should go eat dinner

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 could you get unity working?

Thom Blair III

adios!

gandalf3

@Qwertieϟ Still installing

Qwertie ϟ

01:51

@gandalf3 Still :0

gandalf3

I had some isseus and had to restart

oops

bbl

gandalf3

02:11

ah, I g2g anyway

o/

Qwertie ϟ

05:05

anyone still here?

gandalf3

06:10

I'm here again

Qwertie ϟ

06:21

@gandalf3 have you done many of Andrew prices tutorials?

gandalf3

@Qwertieϟ Not lately..

I used to do every one

But I haven't done any tutorials for a while..

Qwertie ϟ

They are quite good at showing the different tools. I only just found the snapping tool

gandalf3

Which reminds me, have you seen any good rigging/animation tutorials lately? I really should to learn how to do those things at some point..

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 I haven't done much animation

gandalf3

yep, that's my problem..

Qwertie ϟ

06:27

I am creating a little game in unity to display all of my blender renders and moddles

gandalf3

That's cool. Unity still isn't working for me..

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 :(

gandalf3

Looks like some dependency problems though, at least I know what the trouble is.

Qwertie ϟ

Have you voted for this feedback.unity3d.com/suggestions/… ?

gandalf3

I don't have a unity account..

Qwertie ϟ

06:31

@gandalf3 So you have never used unity then?

gandalf3

Nope

I've heard lots of good things about it, but I have yet to run it successfully

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 I used to run it on my macbook before I could get it working on ubuntu

Here is a early screen shot

gandalf3

Nice, a gallery :)

Qwertie ϟ

I just thought it would be a cool idea

its a little empty ATM

gandalf3

When you walk into them it would be cool if you ended up in the actual 3D scene

Qwertie ϟ

06:35

@gandalf3 That could work well with the one on the right

gandalf3

Oh yeah, idk about that with the rainy window..

Qwertie ϟ

I don't know if you can import animations into unity

gandalf3

I'm pretty sure you can

I think there was a question about it here

IIRC FBX supports animation

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 Do you have a render you want me to add?

gandalf3

What do you mean?

Qwertie ϟ

06:40

add to the unity game

next to the barrels one

gandalf3

You want one of my renders? or..?

I'm confused..

Qwertie ϟ

@gandalf3 one of yours

gandalf3

ah

Qwertie ϟ

I don't have many good renders yet

gandalf3

hm

Anything specific you want?

Qwertie ϟ

06:45

@gandalf3 Anything

gandalf3

hm

A bit noisy.. This is from before I got a good GPU

Will that work?

Qwertie ϟ

yep

gandalf3

:D

It's stretched though..

Qwertie ϟ

I can fix that

Uniys lighting system is not working very well with this scene

When you add multiple spot lights things start to get odd

Sintel

0

Q: Rigid body collision not precise

I'm new to blender and have been playing with the rigid body simulations. I noticed that collision is not very accurate, which is okay usually, but in this instance, it makes objects fly through each other: This simulation moved the plane upwards smashing a cylinder into pieces. Note that ther...

rigid-body-simulation collision

Thom Blair III

08:49

HELP! Why can't I sign into Disqus?

I can't even post as guest...

Thom Blair III

09:06

finally, figured it out

you have to sign in BEFORE you put your cursor in the comment field

lulz

Mornin' @Charles

:)

just sayin hi

Thom Blair III

09:19

@Vader I'm starting to notice you use the word "dirty" more often than I would expect

your first comment to me included the word "filthy"

might I suggest a diction upgrade in the direction of "clean"?

:)

Thom Blair III

09:44

Vader: I also fixed my Flash error, even though I'm still using my Mac.
_(folds arms, smiling smugly)_

why can't I get these formatting things to work properly sometimes??

#reallyMessinWithMyStyle

Sintel

09:55

1

Q: GameEngine: KX_BlenderMaterial vs KX_PolygonMaterial

I have a question about the material types in the game-engine. e.g.: http://www.blender.org/documentation/blender_python_api_2_66_4/bge.types.KX_PolyProxy.html#bge.types.KX_PolyProxy.material When is the material a BlenderMaterial object and when a PoylgonMaterial object? What are the internal ...

materials game-engine

Thom Blair III

10:11

I wonder if there is a specific range of effects that can be created with a modifier? It would seem so. Hence, theoretically, one could generate an Effect Map, similar to this one here

mrob.com/pub/comp/xmorphia

This is the Possibility Map for the Reaction-Diffusion equation. Click on any one area and it shows you details of what textures/effects/possibilities are achievable and what their settings are to reproduce it.

Sintel

10:47

0

Q: How to extract models from 3D games in offline mode?

Independent of the legal aspect of reusing models within games, is there a way to extract models from 3D games? Background of this question: I want to learn more about low-poly modeling. Although there are tutorials out there, I come across some superb models in games and I wonder: is it a high ...

export external-applications

Sintel

12:02

0

Q: Noise reduction blur / postprocess in blender

I use Photoshops Surface Blur to reduce the noise, but it operates only on 2D Isn't there a way to blur in Blender, but also smarter then PS maybe using some extended info that Blender has? I found http://mattebb.com/weblog/surface-blur/ , but the sample link is broken and quite old Any idea h...

cycles

Sintel

12:14

0

Q: Why can't I see my floor when I play in blender?

![ ][1] [1]: https://i.sstatic.net/WjMWp.pngplease help me solve my problem?It would really help me solve this problem.

python

Peter Varo

12:47

why blender doesn't have a simple "Revolve" operator?

I know, you can create similar things with Screw

Vader

use spin, Alt R

Peter Varo

(or started from a a circle and extruding upward)

check

@Vader wow it is super limited and unintuitive to use :)

but basically yes, that's exactly what I've been looking for

one of my students asked me about this

well, personally I never needed this

since there are so many ways to produce the same result

however this implementation is super stupid

Vader

you have to use the 3d cursor

what are you trygin to make?

Peter Varo

me? nothing

I just asked -- since I've been asked for this feature

what is really silly about this revolve/spin tool is if you write 360d it won't close itself

you have to Remove Doubles after the operation

this is very unintuitive

also, it would be way better to select a global axis as default vector

not the mouse projected to the screen and connected to the origin point

^ how intuitive is that?

although I'm one of the greatest fans of blender (I became a true evangelist) sometimes when I face such bad design as this I don't know what to say..

Vader

13:03

is it hard to create perfect circles?

CharlesL

@ThomBlairIII heyo :D

Thom Blair III

ah hola!

are you at school now?

Vader

spring break?

Sintel

14:11

0

Q: Blend connected components

I've a mesh that have few connected components, there is a way to have a unique connected component out of it. More specifically I've a cube on which I put a text using boolean operator, however although the mesh is now one, the letters are not connected with the face, there is an easy way to do...

mesh topology

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