Winter Bash! 2018 edition

David

00:06

Here is an interesting cake hat case codereview.stackexchange.com/users/110054/coldspeed#winter-bash Only has the hat on SO! not three sites.

@Panda and @alecxe ^^

and anyone else that has theories on the Eliza Doolots hat.

jknappen

Impressive amounts of reputation per day ...

alecxe

00:23

`@David indeed, quite an interesting case

Panda

@David That's interesting, so it is possible to get it on just 1 site

He did get a total of >3200 rep since WB started

So, the hat probably got something to do with rep

alecxe

could it be related to being at some place in the reputation league? stackexchange.com/leagues/1/week/stackoverflow/2018-12-16/…

Erik the Outgolfer

jeez reputation league

alecxe

:D

idk just throwing out ideas

Rob

👏

Panda

00:36

Good idea, but I don't think it's that

Cause Catija would probably have gotten it on Meta.SE stackexchange.com/leagues/4/week/meta/…

Erik the Outgolfer

I mean, using the rep league for anything hat-related is unfair imho

Panda

There could be a combination of rep that would trigger the hat, maybe >3200 to get the hat on just one site

and >500 + 2 more >200 to get it simultaneously on 3 sites

alecxe

yeah, good idea

Panda

stackoverflow.com/users/1144035/gordon-linoff?tab=topactivity

This user's top on SO this week and has it too

David

interesting.

Panda

00:39

So does the 2nd user on SO stackoverflow.com/users/2901002/jezrael

The top 5 has it

alecxe

yeah, Gordon is a crazy (in a good way) database guy, I met him once - he just thinks SQL - all of these monstrous queries he writes in the answers are just from his head

amazing

Panda

minimum 1506 rep this week

@alecxe Wow!

alecxe

yeah, he is being doing databases for 30+ years

dinosaur

Panda

haha that's long

David

@Panda what was your rep on the three when you got it?

Panda

00:42

meta 932, politics 584 and ell 495

David

hmm

Panda

I think @alecxe's right; it might have something to do with rep leagues

David

but there must be some min.

else users on small sites would have it for just a tiny bit of rep.

Panda

Yea, a lot of users still get it on a few sites simultaneously

David

ok so there is no magic across three sites thing.

Panda

00:44

So probably a combination of rep on a few sites may count towards the hat

David

what would make it trigger simultaneously?

Panda

a total of maybe, >1200 rep on 3 sites

David

@Panda good thinking. try to balance the hat to give small sites a chance

Panda

@David Yep, it does explain why a lot of users got it on ~3 sites

David

@alecxe do you know what your rep was on each of the sites when you got the cake hat?

alecxe

00:46

unfortunately, don't remember

Panda

Actually a lot of users have the site

Wait I think I calculated lol @alecxe

David

@Panda so maybe something as simple as get X number of rep in a week (across all sites)

Panda

never mind I can't find it

@David yea if you go through the rep leagues, the top users have the hat

try mathematics stackexchange.com/leagues/69/week/math/…

David

shoot. if that was the case why could you get it on three, then add a fourth site too?

alecxe

yeah, that's what happened to me, I've got that hat on the CR site later on

Panda

00:50

I think it doesn't solely follow the rep leagues cause the week starts slightly late at Dec 16 while WB started on Dec 12; it's probably "get some amount of rep within 7 days"

David

that is what I was thinking. 7 days

Panda

Apparently the threshold is >1000 to get it on just one site; and a total of >1500 to get it on 3 sites

David

yet why would the hat show up during WB day 6?

Panda

ah yes, could there be a chance it appeared earlier and no one realised it?

we only found out about this hat after Monica updated the post, right?

David

@Panda very, very small

MonicaCellio was first and Glorfindel was the second user to get the hat, both were on the first page of the leader board.

Panda

00:57

@David I mean like if the threshold is 1000, then normally one could only get the hat at the earliest day 5, so we could have missed it on day 5

Are we sure Monica got it first?

David

@Panda no. I guess not.

Panda

Cause this user would have hit 1000 by day 4 codereview.stackexchange.com/users/110054/coldspeed#winter-bash

so probably he got it without anyone realizing

David

@Panda Monica crossed 1000 rep on meta on dec 16. However she only got the hat on the 18th.

Panda

@David oh, the 1-site-threshold could be higher, maybe at 1200

Feeds

07:50

0

Q: Why no Solstice hat?

There appears to be no Solstice hat this year (unless it's super secret). I haven't seen anyone with a Solstice hat, and it's not listed on the Winter Bash 2018 Hat list. Where in the World hats that looked like Solstice hats appeared in the 2016 hat list, and they were fantastic! Why not? Was ...

Ankit Sharma

Is there soem hidden trigger for Red Baron?

Feeds

08:34

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Q: What is the additonal criteria to fullfill for Red Baron Hat?

On Movies & TV SE, I qualified for Red Baron Hat twice but never got it. From Winter Bash page: answer a question scoring -3 or lower; the question eventually becomes 3+ and your answer becomes 5+ And I completed it here but no hat. Is there any unsaid rule or some bug in calculations?

bug winter-bash winter-bash-2018

U9-Forward

10:28

Guys, earned the Gonna Find Out Hat!

Wow, best rank record for me! 3rd place! :D

Tinkeringbell

0

Q: Is there an audit on IPS while reviewing?

I just noticed the following: Hat earned - peackeeper Successfully complete 20 reviews without failing an audit. What's weird is that, since the winterbash started, I made more (much much more) than 20 reviews. I (think I usually) have no problem with reviewing the VTC, LQP and so on.....

discussion

Can anyone help out there? What's a successful review? And I think 'without failing an audit' on a site without audits just means 20 successful reviews?

U9-Forward

@Tinkeringbell Because, some time SE tricks you to see if you are paying attention, so some times they will have tests, the posts look like what they were before, and see if you know what happen at the end, so example, their showing a question zero vote score, then see if you say it is a bad question, if you say it's good you fail if the question became negative scored and closed, and if you say bad question in the case of question becoming negative-scored, you passed the test.

Sorry, realized IPS doesn't have that, so everything is considered succesful...

Tinkeringbell

Yes, but IPS doesn't have review audits. So the question which then remains is 'what makes a successful review' as the asker reviewed many more than 20 posts.

U9-Forward

@Tinkeringbell Realized too, see the last comment...

Tinkeringbell

Still weird that they apparently had to do more than 20 reviews...

Do you think it goes per queue?

U9-Forward

10:43

@Tinkeringbell Yes, of course, that's what i was ready to tell you.

Tinkeringbell

Okay. Thank you :) That makes enough for an answer then :)

U9-Forward

@Tinkeringbell Should i make a IPS account and answer?

Tinkeringbell

Only if you want to ;)

U9-Forward

@Tinkeringbell done it.

Tinkeringbell

Thank you :D

U9-Forward

11:04

@Tinkeringbell I it okay, my post?

Tinkeringbell

Yes, it's great :)

IPS Meta isn't half as scary as main, when it comes to writing answers :P

U9-Forward

@Tinkeringbell Lol, MSO is like that, scary... :-)

Feeds

11:37

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Q: List of expected new secret hats - 2018

I realized that everyone's thinking there is gonna be more new secret hats that are so far undiscovered, since i see from this post: How many secret hats are there for Winter Bash 2018? Answer saying "at least 9", so would be nice if you could realize some undiscovered secret-hats, then post it...

discussion winter-bash winter-bash-2018 secret-hats

U9-Forward

Chee... i would like to delete my question but i can't...

Erik the Outgolfer

12:37

better think next time... ;-)

Rand al'Thor

14:32

I just returned after some hours offline to find that I earned "Eliza Doolots" on Science Fiction & Fantasy and Puzzling.

I'm not sure how, since I haven't actually done anything there in the intervening time.

Could it be something as simple as "earn rep on the site on a particular date"? Or is the hat not common enough for that?

jknappen

That Eliza Doolots is for getting a lot of reputation

My current hypothesis is get 1500 (15 is a magic number in hatology) of total reputation on the SE network. Only sites with more than 200 rep gain count. Time frame is not yet clear, maybe it is the whole Winter Bash which will make the hat accessible to many more users to come.

Rand al'Thor

Ooh, that would fit with Catija's original inspiration for making that hat last year.

jknappen

@Randal'Thor And the design fits it, too

kcw78

I earned 6 hats in about 10 days, wore the new one each day....so when is the Cheesy hat awarded?

Eran

15:04

@Randal'Thor it's interesting that you got this hat on just 2 sites. Till now I thought at least 3 sites are required.

jknappen

@Eran There is even one user who earned it on a single site, scroll upwards in this chat to find it.

Eran

Yes, I just checked the top yearly user on SO and he got it. He didn't have it the last time I checked, which was shortly after this hat was first awarded.

Actually, many of the top monthly users on SO have it now.

Rand al'Thor

15:24

Maybe it's for "earn at least X rep during Winter Bash"?

@ArtOfCode Does that pinned "Knit with more colo[u]rs" link automatically download some kind of browser add-on? I clicked it expecting to see a pretty picture or at least a webpage, but instead I got a warning that something might be trying to harm my computer.

I'd suggest either changing the link to go to a webpage with the option of downloading something, or changing the link description to make it clear what people might get from clicking on it.

Glorfindel

16:32

@jknappen let me try what happens if I join 20 accounts with my sock (gaining 2000 reputation by association bonuses)

I suspect I won't get the hat, but at least it's a corner case we have to try :)

jknappen

16:52

@Glorfindel: This should not work, first the association bonus is only 100, not 200, second I think it must be really earned reputation like in the Brunhilde hat

Catija

@Randal'Thor it's a script.

Glorfindel

@jknappen ah, right, otherwise I should've gotten it on Board & Card Games already.

Rand al'Thor

17:10

@Catija Can we not have pinned links that try to make changes/downloads to people's computers without warning?

I don't know exactly what it is or what it's trying to do, otherwise I'd edit the message myself.

Nog Shine

@Randal'Thor I clicked on it many times now and it didn't download anything on my computer.

Rand al'Thor

(keyboard problems, sorry)

@NogShine When I click it, first a new tab appears, then disappears again and I get what looks like a file-download popup except that it says:

If it wasn't someone I knew posting it, I'd assume the link was dodgy/harmful and delete it directly.

Nog Shine

It's Art of Code's userscript

Rand al'Thor

I'm not tech-savvy, but I'm internet-savvy enough to be deeply suspicious of an innocuous-looking link which gives that kind of behaviour and warning when clicked.

Catija

@Randal'Thor I don't know if that's possible but we can make it clearer when it's an executable or download (like PDF links). I'm mobile so I can't edit it but you can edit it to say something like "Want to knit with more colors? Install this userscript!" With a link.

Rand al'Thor

17:20

@Catija Thanks; done.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Catija userscript installation shouldn't involve download prompts like that...

Rand al'Thor

That should be clear enough to those who know what userscripts are, and enough to make the rest of us avoid clicking ;-)

Catija

If you don't have *monkey installed it might?

Rand al'Thor

I resisted the temptation to change "colors" to "colours", although I'm surprised a Brit like @Art used the wrong spelling.

Erik the Outgolfer

maybe that's what happens when you slide your finger over an en-US GBoard? ;-)

user2314737

17:28

@kcw78 not sure, but you might have to wait a while before the hat is triggered

ArtOfCode

@Randal'Thor I blame all the programming. Also, you need Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey for that to work, that's why you got the weird prompt.

Feeds

21:16

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Q: No Silencium hat for 15 days

I have got a question on Stackoverflow in Russian created Dec 12, 2018, 19:58 MSK — and it still has no answers for 15 days. Is it a bug?

support bug winter-bash winter-bash-2018

kcw78

21:57

Discovered knitting and posting the image to related MSE question is worth your time (at least if you have low rep on MSE). Got +18 rep on MSE, plus Teacher badge, more privileges, and a WB 2018 Tophat on MSE. :)

eLRuLL

@kcw78 you are welcome ;)

Alexander O'Mara

22:13

I think there's a time restriction on 007, example of a user who didn't get one: stackoverflow.com/a/53871984/3155639

jknappen

23:45

@AlexanderO'Mara Deleted comments spoil the hat

Alexander O'Mara

@jknappen Maybe, but I don't think there were any comments over here: stackoverflow.com/questions/53862273/…

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Winter Bash! 2018 edition