Winter Bash! 2018 edition

Riker

00:07

ok if this theory is right it should be super easy on PPCG (90% of questions are all the same tag)

but I haven't seen it being super common there? (re: waffles)

WELZ

@Riker Hmmm, good point - there's still the time thing.

Riker

true but still

WELZ

the one user who has it (that I saw) seems to have commented a bunch of times on the same post (q/a)

Riker

well its' certainly less of a time period than 2 days

since i have 15 comments on 1 post across like 2-3 days and nada

WELZ

Which post, I have an idea

I will upvote certain (newer) comments... see if my upvote theory sticks

David

00:18

can I get two DVs on this?

bet you can guess for what hat.

Ethan K

00:34

@David Sorry, I like that post to much to downvote. (plus I had already upvoted)

@WELZ good idea, check the upvote thing. I will do it to if the link it shared.

@Riker Please share the post with the comments.

Riker

10

Q: Are Hungarian and Turkish related?

I was told by somebody who has lived near Hungary that she thought that Hungarian and Turkish were related, and that their languages are very similar. A brief google search seems to support this. However, that article does say that this grouping is "criticized by some contemporary linguists" and...

there should be 15 total there, I believe I've deleted 1-2

David

@EthanK figures. when there is a hat for getting 5 DVs, the hat list does no get DVed...

Ethan K

@David I hope you get the downvotes, though. (that sounds weird to say)

David

:) only in hat season.

Ethan K

@Riker Can you test the comments on the same tag in a certain amount of time they? You could do 14 on a random post that nobody cares about and then do one more on another.

That way you don't have to make lots and lots of comments in that short of time.

David

00:45

thanks to who ever DVed. (that is an odd thing to say)

Riker

@David i gotchu

@EthanK I can do that but give me one of your posts you don't mind me testing it on

preferably on SO or something so I don't bump it needlessly

Ethan K

Okay @Riker, try it on this dead question: stackoverflow.com/questions/52807698/… (It's mine)

Riker

why'd bhargav lock it

Ethan K

Please do them on my dead answer.

Riker

>.>

the locked one?

dude did you try this already and get shut down by a mod

Ethan K

00:49

Oh.

I didn't see.

Riker

why did he lock it?

Ethan K

You could, um, answer my question.

Riker

cuz I'm like 99% certain spamming comments isn't a good idea mate

Ethan K

Delete after you try!

Then you are okay!

Riker

in a bit maybe

Ethan K

00:50

Answer my question, comment quickly, delete before the mods come. Easy.

I think

Riker

dude I'm a mod too. i know how this responsibility thing works

Ethan K

I could do it.

I just forgot to delete it.

Riker

you can try, and you'll likely get in trouble

just wait and do it legitimately

Ethan K

Good point

Riker

is it that hard to find 15 [python] questions

Ethan K

00:53

@Riker YES. People ask question that are really hard to have good discussions on because 50% are "why doesn't this work" questions, 25% are homework, and 20% are stupid and duplicates. The other 5% are okay sometimes.

80% come from 1 rep users that never come back to the site.

Riker

literally just leave comments telling them what's wrong

it doesn't need to be super helpful or answer the question but it can easily be somewhat useful

Ethan K

I do, but that is just one comment.

I get annoyed after 5.

Riker

which is worse

mildly annoyed or no hat

Ethan K

I already have waffles.

Riker

ah

David

00:55

@EthanK yah we get lots of why no worky Qs too. just comment saying something like "there is not enough information to answer" then CV as unclear.

Ethan K

I link to [help], [ask] or [mcve].

Which change to links on SO.

David

I know. I comment too.

Riker

I mean on PPCG we mostly just use Stack Overflow for off-topic questions because ya know something about not having a functioning tour

Ethan K

Sad.

David

@Riker PPCG?

never mind

I remember

programing puzzles and code golf.

Riker

01:00

yeep

Ethan K

Side Note: I am thinking about joining PPCG. Would you recommend it?

Riker

one of the 2 non-QA sites on SE i think

i mean yeah if your'e interested go for it

Ethan K

Okay.

I am not sure when, but I will at some point.

It looks fun.

Riker

make it one of your brunhilde sites lmao

Ethan K

I am not going for that. I am only on SO and Meta SE.

I will join PPCG next, but probably after winter bash.

Then I would still need one more (I do have one hidden site I could use, but I don't want to use it, that is why it is hidden)

Challenge you to find the hidden site. :)

Riker

01:06

maybe in a bit

Ethan K

I know that mods can see. Oh wait, you are a mod.

Why didn't I know that?

I feel like I knew that at one point but I forgot.

WELZ

@EthanK I found it

Riker

ok I've left 16 comments in 15 minutes, all on [python] on SO

we'll see if I get waffles

yep I got it that's it

WELZ

cheers!

Riker

the question is how long is the time

Ethan K

01:12

@Riker I was going to say that!

Riker

should I just edit the post right now to say within a short period of time (~1 UTC day?)

WELZ

@Riker that seems fair, maybe even 12 hours though,

Ethan K

Now let's find the time.

Each try will be a day!

This will take some time, so we should start now.

Riker

somebody has to do that first lol

go try on another site maybe

leave comments and then make sure you leave the last one in 13 hours from now

if that doesn't work, cool, it's 12 hours (otherwise it's 24)

Ethan K

@Riker Good idea!

I sadly can't do that. (on my hidden site I could, but I don't know where bc of my little gaming knowledge)

@WELZ Thanks for the upvote, btw :)

Riker

01:17

@EthanK you literally just outed your hidden site but ok

WELZ

@EthanK wha—me? No

Ethan K

@Riker To 2 whole people??? Oh no! (and nobody will care)

WELZ

To everyone in the room...

Ethan K

Fine, 7 people

I really don't care, though.

WELZ

now, try and find my hidden site. :D

David

01:25

I got the hint but just had to check.

WELZ

😂

David

do you have an account on every site?

WELZ

Yes, but none of them are hidden...

David

wow. so you and Glorfindel. probably a few others.

WELZ

@David Lots of others.

David

01:28

PS I like your profile. Nice use of image links.

WELZ

😏👍

I just realized, I have over 10k rep on chat (network-wide), do I get any special privs?

@David feel free to copy it to your own profile if you'd like.

David

@WELZ 10k network wide?

WELZ

yeh

I guess, my chat profile shows 10.2k

David

then yes you now can see flags.

watch

WELZ

nope, nothing. Maybe it counts my meta.se rep...?

David

01:31

somebody flag that message there ^^ (I'm a mod so my flag would be treated differently.)

lol sorry

you posted between my messages

Ethan K

Flagged.

David

there you go.

ArtOfCode

please don't flag unnecessarily...

WELZ

oh, cool

David

@WELZ better look quick, they get handled fast.

@ArtOfCode sorry, I asked then to. @WELZ is new to the chat mod privilege.

WELZ

01:33

Ethan K

@ArtOfCode Sorry, a mod told me to do it.

WELZ

MOD FIGHT!!!

2

ArtOfCode

@David MSE has screenshots, IIRC :)

WELZ

Popcorn!

David

"mod told me to do it." lol

@ArtOfCode yah but that's so 2017

WELZ

01:34

Lmao

David

@Uranium what is your chat profile "about" field about?

WELZ

It's about ME, I'm a celebrity!

Catija

I know y'all want everyone to come and hang out in here but I don't know that flags send the right signal... ;)

Ethan K

And another mod enters...

Catija

01:49

Mod... Bah.

... Mods are great and wonderful people.

Ethan K

Then what does "♦" mean?

Catija

Me, not so much. ;)

Riker

02:01

@Catija by the way, does it violate the CM Code™ to tell us how long the time period for waffles is? now that we've established the main criteria

Ethan K

@Catija Please... I don't want to test this!

Riker

don't need to ping her again :p

she'll either respond or not

Ethan K

@Riker Good point, I just thought I would add it anyway.

Catija

@Riker dunno... sort of irrelevant, since the main criteria is still wrong.

Riker

oh dang ok thanks though

@Catija I assume you've seen the updated version of "on the same tag" (vs same post?)

Catija

02:11

Yes, it works... but I'll bet you that y'all can find someone who has it without meeting it.

@Riker yep.

Riker

hm ok thanks

Ethan K

Great! We are wrong again!

Riker

showerthought: 15 comments in a certain amount of time, no tag requirement?

alternatively, something something "first 12 hours of the utc day" (cuz breakfast?)

Ethan K

@Riker Good idea for the first, not so sure about the second. (because somebody pointed out that a waffler is someone who talks a lot)

Riker

oh is it ok that makes more sense

Ethan K

02:13

Can anybody try @Riker's first idea? I am all out of waffles...

David

02:58

ever happen to anyone else? diy.stackexchange.com/q/153062/94494

@Riker now that sound more like it. 15 comments by X o'clock

hooray (in kind of a sarcastic voice) my knitting answer passed all of my most UVed answers on BSE. voting...

Nog Shine

05:12

I just got Cleanup duty on Movies&TV and I didn't retag today.

I improved title and body.

Question I edited got an upvote a 15 minutes ago.

If that helps

Theory could be "Improve the title of the question and the question should be upvoted after your edit"

3

Nog Shine

05:35

There should be a feature to wear multiple hats at a time. We can see both Ben and Gus wearing hats.

Rob

05:46

@NogShine I suggested that: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/48109857#48109857

Nog Shine

@Rob Yes.

I added a new angle so that Catija can put some more interest in implementing that ;)

Rob

It makes sense to be able to combine non-hats with actual hats.

afk

MONSTEEEER

06:21

how did i get the secret hat?

Catija

@NogShine Ha. Seems that the triviality of being able to screenshot yourself with one hat and add a new one makes it unlikely that they'll make that possible.

Feeds

07:31

1

Q: Why not wear several hats at once on winter bash?

I found old question How about multiple hats? that was status-declined But possibly 6 years later something changed? Wearing a several hats at once can make winter bash even more fun.

discussion winter-bash

Ankit Sharma

07:48

@NogShine you can if you know how to take screenshot ;)

Derpy

08:28

@Catija little problem: actual hats can go outside the bounds of the avatar picture. The avatar picture cannot go outside its own bounds (that would be an interesting philosophical question though) .

btw, I hope the trigger for the gingerbread hat isn't the one Catija had in mind.

Mithrandir

I think it's similar.

Derpy

@Mithrandir I don't even have six sites.

Mithrandir

Good thing that it's only three, then

Derpy

Yep! Sharepoint. 200 rep on Sharepoint. Is that a yearly requirement?

Nog Shine

09:17

@AnkitSharma Yes, I know. I was just joking.

U9-Forward

earned it's ain't being cheesy hat!!!

Eran

I wonder if there's a winter solstice hat this year. We'll know soon.

ypercubeᵀᴹ

10:04

Morning everyone.

What are the requirements for Brunhilde?

Does 150 in 3 sites mean 150 in each one of the sites?

Eran

yes

ypercubeᵀᴹ

The wording is ... bad.

And what's the theory on Waffles?

Eran

15 comments in a short period of time (1 day?) possibly all in posts having a common tag

Nog Shine

I got it by posting comments under winterbash tag. All within 2 hours. Same question and its answers.

Derpy

@ypercubeᵀᴹ just go commenting on the replies of either the Time swag contest or the Knitting show-off posts on the main meta site.

Got mine by commenting on the various knitting patterns.

Michael Dodd

10:20

@Feeds TF2 might have something to say about that :)

b_jonas

10:32

Hmm, so what's all this about waffles?

yper-crazyhat-cubeᵀᴹ

@Derpy OK, but I don't want it on Meta ;)

jknappen

10:53

#Waffles: Obviously 15 comments on one question (comments may be deleted) are clearly a necessary condition. The other ingredient is probably that you also have a post (either question or answer) in that question. Probably this post also needs some positive score.

Feeds

11:05

1

Q: This years Winter Bash is super hard

I always look forward to Winter Bash. This year it feels really hard to get any hats. And because of this I kind of quit giving it much thought after a few days. That's a shame because it takes a lot of times to come up with all that stuff for us! Is it just me or are Winter Bash hats too hard...

discussion winter-bash-2018

yper-crazyhat-cubeᵀᴹ

11:26

@jknappen @NogShine @Eran thnx

Glorfindel

11:50

@Eran No December 21st hat this year, it seems ...

@jknappen no post needed, I checked it with my sockpuppet.

Eran

@Glorfindel I guess not. I won't miss those hats that just require voting (or even just visiting) on a specific date. They were getting old.

Glorfindel

me neither

Ankit Sharma

12:20

Why I didn't got Silencium

CalvT

@Eran There's still Glasses With A Number On Top

@AnkitSharma Link?

This one still has a couple hours until a week has past

2 hours and 11 minutes to be precise

Ankit Sharma

1

Q: Does anything suggest Ben 10 (2016) is part of the Ben 10 multiverse?

In Ben 10 we got to know there are multiple universes with multiple iterations of Ben 10 and even multiple future timelines too. That made me wonder, is even Ben 10 (2016) part of that multiverse? Is there any in or out of universe confirmation about it?

chronology ben-10 ben-10-2016

CalvT

@AnkitSharma Yep that's the one I linked. Still a couple hours left

Ankit Sharma

I though 24 hours * 7

CalvT

Yes. You posted at 14:34 GMT

It's currently 12:25 GMT

Derpy

12:26

trying to find a reply now

WELZ

12:55

@Glorfindel but it isn't the 21st yet.... 😕

Glorfindel

not here, but it is in the UTC+14 timezone ...

CalvT

@WELZ Generally you can get it awarded for 48 hours - 12 hours either side of 21st UTC

David

14:19

@Glorfindel that is exactly what I came to check. hmm.

Dylan

@jknappen I know exactly how I got waffles. I posted an answer to a question, quickly posted 15 comments on it. The answer never got any upvotes.

Feeds

14:43

0

Q: Are there new hats to be revealed during this Winter Bash?

Are there new hats to be revealed during this Winter Bash? I remember that this was done in some earlier Winter Bash. This Winter Bash already feels a bit exhausted: all accessible hats are collected, and only extraordinary activity or extraordinary luck will bring in some more of them. Some new ...

discussion winter-bash-2018

Dylan

15:08

@Eran WE DID IT! The meta question got to +3 and we got RedBaron! :D

Eran

@Dylan congrats! I actually need +4, since I upvoted the question.

Dylan

oh crap.

hahaha

wait.. I didnt upvote it..

evil smile

@Eran mwahahaha

Eran

@Dylan cool :)

CalvT

@AnkitSharma You have the hat now!

Dylan

15:24

I could use one more vote.... just one more.. meta.stackexchange.com/a/320183/437604

God bless you

CalvT

Yw - it's good enough an answer to merit it :)

Glorfindel

Since it's begging season, I need one more here :)

It doesn't give me reputation, I already repcapped today :P

thanks :)

Dylan

16:15

How long does its a me take?

I believe I just deleted my 6th comment.

Nog Shine

18:10

Any progress of Clean up duty?

Two more users got the hat on Hinduism.

CalvT

Either of those low activity?

Nog Shine

Yes. A 200 rep user who suggested edits.

7 suggested edits during Winterbash. 1 rejected.

WELZ

Mine were also all suggested edits (on meta)

yper-crazyhat-cubeᵀᴹ

A user got it on both SO and dba.se

Lots of comments and revisions.

Nog Shine

So, try this guys and gals. "Edit a question with zero score and the question should get reach positive score (without counting your vote)"

I got this for a 0 score question on Movies

yper-crazyhat-cubeᵀᴹ

18:24

If someone upvotes this one, we'll see: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/225391/…

It has only 1 upvote, mine, and I edited it hours ago.

Nog Shine

I think closed questions don't count.

It didn't count for my Topbar hat

@yper-crazyhat-cubeᵀᴹ You don't have that hat? Have a look on new questions.

Does the question have reopen votes on it?

There is another user who got this hat by editing their own posts. Some are tag edits.

CalvT

18:59

I just got it on meta and I haven't done much there...

Nog Shine

so is it something with 7?

CalvT

New theory - 3 edits that get upvotes that aren't yours?

Vickel

just knitted my favorite hat: ruber ducky with waffles meta.stackexchange.com/a/320629/251777

b_jonas

Hmm.

CalvT

19:20

Right ok. I did a spot of serial voting

I upvoted three of the questions @yper-crazyhat-cubeᵀᴹ had edited, and low and behold they now have clean up

So latest theory for cleanup - Edit 3 questions (that aren't yours) that later get upvoted by another user

I'm willing to do a bit of voting if anyone else wishes to try and get it - just ping me

@WELZ you're usually up for this kinda thing

Nog Shine

@CalvT So the count is 3 posts? All the 3 should be upvoted?

53 mins ago, by Nog Shine

There is another user who got this hat by editing their own posts. Some are tag edits.

How do you explain this?

CalvT

Have a link to the user?

Nog Shine

Checking their all revisions. Give me a sec.

hinduism.stackexchange.com/users/661/…

2 edits during winterbash which are not theirs.

CalvT

Ok I'm stumped again

Damn thought I'd got it then

Maybe it does include your own posts, but that does seem a little strange

Nog Shine

19:36

I don't know when this user is awarded Cleanup duty hat. I am the first one on the site to earn that.

There are 3 or 4 others who earned that hat.

McNets

I've got it two days ago, more or less, but I don't remember what was doing. Maybe rejecting some pending edits?

CalvT

@McNets No it's not that. I can't review on meta.se and I have the hat

McNets

@CalvT Did you answer any question on meta? I posted an answer on dba meta

CalvT

@McNets Only the sandbox

Which generally doesn't count

WELZ

@CalvT what shall I do?

CalvT

19:51

@WELZ You got links to three recent edits on gd.se?

Edits of yours

McNets

@CalvT If you have a look at my history on Votes cast, I remember to get it just after this downvote dba.stackexchange.com/questions/225350/…

CalvT

Or make some edits if you'd prefer

McNets

dba.stackexchange.com/users/110455/…

CalvT

@McNets I don't do downvotes generally so :D

Also it's a slow hat - discard anything in the 30 minutes before it was awarded

Alexander O'Mara

Just got Eliza Doolots on 4 sites.

McNets

19:55

@CalvT Mostly reviews

Alexander O'Mara

Definitely didn't reach 1200 on any of them.

WELZ

@CalvT not my own posts, correct?

most recent is 2d ago... -_-

Alexander O'Mara

(Thank goodness, that means I don't have to grind out 1200 rep on SO anymore)

CalvT

Warning here comes a post dump

Message too long :/

graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/118223/… graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/1502/… graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/21374/…

graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/41321/… graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/29661/… graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/10759/… graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/10700/…

graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/118121/… graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/118012/… @WELZ did you upvote any of these?

WELZ

@CalvT yes

CalvT

20:01

@WELZ Are there any in that 9 you did not upvote?

WELZ

> 🙊

I edited them, I usually upvote content I fix.

CalvT

That's fine, just if you upvoted the lot it helps me :D

If you didn't, then that's where my theory fall flat

WELZ

I voted for 8/9

CalvT

Cool, so in theory you just need one more vote

Ping me if you get clean up in the next 30 minutes

WELZ

I didn't make 9 edits on meta though.

I only made 5

And I got it.

CalvT

20:04

No - it's just those are the nine posts you edited that only got 1 vote after

Which was probably yours, but I had no way of finding out

Except asking you

yper-crazyhat-cubeᵀᴹ

@CalvT Thnx. Not sure if 3 votes were needed but it worked!

WELZ

20:26

@CalvT Nothing.

Panda

@Eran Congrats on Red Baron! Looks like that Red Baron candidate worked!

I still need to get my answer to 5 though :( meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320012/…

Eran

@Panda It did! Your great edit of the question really helped. Thanks! I hope you manage to get to 5 (you already got my upvote)

Panda

@Eran Haha thanks!

Eran

I think that's the best way of tackling this recurring hat - group effort. It's much harder to get it completely on your own.

Panda

Yep, Red Baron’s the hardest each year, you’d just need some luck sometimes

@chat Just stating a fact that I need 2 more votes here – meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320012/… :P

Rob

22:14

@AlexanderO'Mara - There's your 5th vote: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/320012/…

Ethan K

22:58

21 hours ago, by Riker

showerthought: 15 comments in a certain amount of time, no tag requirement?

What do you think about this?

Has anybody tested the "15 comments", "no tag requirement" part by commenting 15 times in a very short time to test the first bit?

kcw78

23:27

I've seen a few waffle hats. has anyone confirmed its 15 comments? other caveats? on same question? in a day? what else?

Ethan K

Yes, it is 15 comments. Just not sure where.

We know that on the same exact answer or question works.

We know that the same exact question and/or it's answers works.

We know that one the same tag works.

We know that it is broader than the last suggestion because a SO employee said so.

Riker

@kcw78 definitely less than or equal to a day

Ethan K

But we don't know the time frame or what exactly you have to do to get it.

Riker

2 days is a no-go for sure (even on the same post)

it's either 24 or 12 hours I believe

kcw78

Ah, thanks...15 comments on the same tag should be 'relatively' simple, right?

Ethan K

23:30

@Riker Oh right!

Riker

yea just do them quickly

you can do it on SO in like 15 minutes if you just pick like [python] and sort by new

kcw78

@Riker, yes exactly :)

Riker

@EthanK *SE but yea

@kcw78 also, if you can please test without the same tag

would be useful to see if that works

(maybe do 14 and 1 and then wait 20 minutes?)

Ethan K

We need to test time (do 13 hours on the last one and see if you get waffles) and if it is just any comments (do it in 5 minutes and see)

Riker

the other theory was related to "comment in the early morning" (waffles == breakfast)

Ethan K

23:32

@Riker But a waffler is someone who talks a lot.

Riker

yes but I mean you can have 2 things that fit the name

kcw78

you mean just 15, but different tags? thats harder, cuz I can only intelligently comment on [python] and a few related tags [numpy]

Ethan K

@Riker But it seems so perfect.

Riker

@kcw78 do 14 on python and just 1 somewhere else

maybe a comment on formatting

Ethan K

@kcw78 I feel your pain. @Riker good fix idea!

Riker

23:33

but yeah I get it

kcw78

gotcha; like the waffles in the morning idea (GMT I assume?)

Ethan K

So @kcw78 will test if different tags is good.

Will you, @kcw78?

Catija

@Riker They both work... technically, I work for SO the company.

kcw78

I will a little later and report. In fact, it will probably be early in the morning GMT

@Catija should know, she created the Eliza Doolots hat :)

Ethan K

I think what @Catija is saying is that the trigger will work in the morning. (and other times as well) Am I correct?

Catija

23:35

Huh?

Ethan K

Then I am not correct then?

Catija

I'm talking about the linked comment... correcting SE to SO...

Ethan K

Ohhhhhhhhhh.....

Forget it.

kcw78

BTW, where do I request a different size Top hat? Mine is too big; sits on my nose.

Mithrandir

Select "show controls", and shrink it.

kcw78

23:38

seriously? I was j/k Thanks!

Catija

Gus is a ninja.

Riker

@Catija oh really? huh, TIL

Catija

Yeah, it creates a decent amount of confusion.

Riker

@NogShine false, didn't edit titles I don't think (linguistics)

Mithrandir

both are valid legal names for the company AFAIK

ArtOfCode

23:46

IIRC, the actual name is Stack Exchange, Inc. still, but DBA Stack Overflow

Catija

23:59

If you ask who we work for, we work for Stack Overflow. This is why there's occasionally confusion... for example, we sent out a survey that was designed for mods and we referred to the mods as Stack Overflow Moderators... but we meant all 577-ish of the network mods, not only the 26 SO mods.

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Winter Bash! 2018 edition