The 2nd Monitor

syb0rg

13:01

@Zak If the mods mention anything about changing it, I'll make a quick edit

Duga

Sorry, but SO is for specific questions, not for "refactor my existing code". Maybe codereview.stackexchange.com is a better fit for this. — Jägermeister 25 secs ago

throck95

what do you guys think of this html? I'm using blade syntax btw

Mast

@syb0rg The entire thing takes next to no time to execute here. Are you running virtual or something?

syb0rg

@Mast No, it's running on WinXP

Mast

Yes, but is that running within a VM by chance?

throck95

13:04

@for ($i = 0; $i < $projectSize; $i++)
            <option value="{{ array('projectName'=>$data[$i]['PRJ_ProjectName'],'projectId'=>$data[$i]['PRJ_ProjectId'])  }}">
                {{ $data[$i]['PRJ_ProjectName'] }} ({{ $data[$i]['PRJ_ProjectStatus'] }})</option>
        @endfor

Mast

:31107562 The fixed font button next to your chat box usually does the trick.

Duga

@Jägermeister: this question would get thrown out of codereview for the very same reasons that it's going to be thrown out of this site. It's a poor quality question on any site I'm afraid, and suggests as you've mentioned at that OP study the concepts and apply them first. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 27 secs ago

Mast

Code_Be_Here[0]
Code_Be_Here[1]

throck95

not sure about the security/validity/etc on passing an array in value

Mast

Shows up the moment you got multiline.

syb0rg

13:05

@Mast No, it's a live machine

Mast

Takes 6.3 seconds with a value of 1000000.

Of-course, I'm simply printing to screen instead of connecting to OPC.

But if that part is your bottleneck, you're screwed one way or another.

Joe Wallis

@Mast Mast if you run a profiler saying that the external code is the bottle neck you've got an upvote from me, :)

syb0rg

@JoeWallis method "recv" of "_socket.socket" is taking 7.328 seconds to execute

Duga

Ask here :: codereview.stackexchange.com — Kaushal28 47 secs ago

Mast

There's your problem.

Legato

13:09

Greetings everyone.

Mast

I'll kick the profiler into gear.

Duga

@OndrejSvejdar It's difficult to find any up to date info on the cookies size in modern browsers. I know that Chrome supports at least 3000 cookies . In our case in some instances we send about 150 cookies which I assume is less than modern browsers can handle. I'm looking into this now anyway. — Mark A 20 secs ago

Zak

@syb0rg If you don't change it, I'll flag it. Hate to be a buzzkill but a bad title is a bad title.

syb0rg

@Zak There you go

Keeps the pun, but also depicts what the question is about

Pimgd

Where will you be when boredom strikes

Vogel612

13:17

here ofc

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Duga hello, robot

Mast

Here, have some benchmarks.

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Not exactly.

rob0t

243 2 8

That's the only robot we got.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mast really?

> Duga is a female bot living in Code Review's main chat room, the 2nd Monitor.

Pimgd

bots are not robots

Mast

^^

Pimgd

13:20

how insensitive of you /s

Zak

@syb0rg "[Thing] runs slow" is still a bad title. IIRC, the standard comment is "titles should describe what the code does", no?

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

I don't understand CR culture, I come from PPCG

Mast

@Zak I think it's good enough in this case though, unless you can think of something much better.

Titles at CR are always up for improvement.

Pimgd

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC That's okay, we don't understand PPCG culture either

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

why doesn't Duga answer?

syb0rg

13:21

@Zak It generates some random values, and writes them to a test harness with OPC, and it's slow... title seems fine to me

Mast

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC @Duga doesn't like you.

You were being insensitive.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mast darn.

Pimgd

Looking at what's starred helps, usually

Zak

@syb0rg Okay. I admit I don't have much experience with what you're doing, so I'll trust your judgement.

Pimgd

looks like CR culture for today is slacking off

just what I need for this monday

Zak

13:24

@Pimgd ~~today~~ everyday

Pimgd

@Zak pssssst plausible deniability

syb0rg

@JoeWallis Trying to output profiler stuff to a file is resulting in gibberish in the file

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

one fourth of the stuff in PPCG chat is just funny images

*starboard

syb0rg

python -m profile -o log.txt -s time ./log_opc/py 10000 2

Joe Wallis

@syb0rg Huh? I normally just print it...

Mast

13:25

Yup. Don't put it in any file.

syb0rg

@JoeWallis It's getting truncated by the terminal, can't scroll up that far

WinXP, am I rite?

Joe Wallis

Nagh just Windows...

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Ah yes, windows

Pimgd

Oh yeah crap I'm gonna have to spend some time this week letting my pc upgrade to win 10

Mast

Remove the while True from your code so it ends and simply put it to screen.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:26

the windows...

Mast

Like I did in my answer.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd or what, a microsoft hitman will kill you

(probably)

Pimgd

Or I don't get win10 and I'll be screwed later

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd by a microsoft hitman

Pimgd

no, by microsoft developers ofc

Mast

13:27

If you're running 8 or 8.1 now, it's better. If you're running 7, upgrading may not be the best move :P

7 was very good.

Pimgd

I'm running 7

Mast

For Windows standards...

syb0rg

@Mast Tried that, still off the screen

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mast ^

do you people use carets to express agreement, or no?

Mast

@syb0rg It shouldn't. Perhaps that's a bug caused by the OpenOPC.

Pimgd

13:28

kinda?

Mast

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC No, we use stars.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

There should be a "don't disturb the natives" sign here

@Mast then the starboard is filled with useless stuff

Pimgd

funny but actually no

Mast

Nah, nice-people-room.

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Take a look at the starboard. Take a look at your statement. What do you conclude?

Pimgd

because that'd create a walled-off community

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:29

@Pimgd it's a joke

@Mast darn.

Pimgd

@Mast that the starwall is filled with useless stuff =D

Mast

Exactly.

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A: What's a Zombie? And what are the many other memes of Code Review?

Meme: Stargree, Stargreed Originator: Skiwi Cultural Height: A conversation about a duck Background: Stars shine in CR chat quite fluently, and it sort of means that we either find it funny or that we agree, if this were Facebook they would be Likes

Blame @skiwi

And @Zak, for running out of stars all the time.

Duga

Maybe you need to visit Code Review? — FirstStep 1 min ago

Pimgd

Gotta ping all the regulars

skiwi

@Mast Ding ding ping

Mast

13:31

And @Malachi and @Mat'sMug for setting that trend.

syb0rg

@Mast I'm thinking it's calling quite a lot of methods

skiwi

Selling on Ebay is a whole lot more complicated than I thought :/

Mast

@Pimgd How to get a chat-ban 101.

@syb0rg Oh, yes, could be.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mast apparently stars are more valuable than carets - but what if I don't agree that much? TS?

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A: What's a Zombie? And what are the many other memes of Code Review?

Meme: TS | RSA Originator: SimonAndréForsberg (TS), rolfl (RSA) Cultural Height: star-power Background: The 2nd Monitor is quite a star-happy chatroom. How many of you know that there's only a number of times you can "star" a chat post - a star cap (like the rep cap and the vote cap, a star ca...

Mast

TS are for when you've ran out.

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Joe Wallis

13:32

@syb0rg You in batch? you could try (python -m profile -o log.txt -s time ./log_opc/py 10000 2)>>file.txt?

syb0rg

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC It happens more than you'd think

Mast

@syb0rg You can truncate the output. and only ask for the top 50 or so.

Pimgd

I think I ran out of stars only once

Look at me I have standards

Mast

Code-wise you can do that by p.sort_stats('time').print_stats(10), I'm still looking for the cmd equivalent.

Joe Wallis

Oh sick it can go anywhere >>file.txt python run.py

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:33

You know, microsoft only hires JAVA developers.

Pimgd

That seems really unlikely

syb0rg

   ncalls  tottime  percall  cumtime  percall filename:lineno(function)
      100   15.707    0.157   15.707    0.157 :0(recv)

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd No, JAVA is different from Java

That's why windows ten exists

Pimgd

... imho you're trying too hard OR you're not trying hard enough

I get it, they hire incompetent peoples, that's why they make crappy software amirite

Mast

How about we keep this civil.

Pimgd

13:36

It's still civil =D

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd also the NSA hacked Iran because they found FOUR zero-days in windows - and they only needed one

syb0rg

Let's all just agree Windows sucks

Mast

Just sayin' before it's too late :P

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

yeah...

Pimgd

and it's the best we got! (For general purpose anyway)

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:37

@Pimgd why not *nix?

Mast

@Pimgd I'm at Ubuntu atm.

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Are these the same, or do they achieve the same goal?

SELECT mp_dim.displayno as mp_display, mp_dim.masterpolicypart as mp_part, count() as all_active, cert_fact.certificate_status, sum(insured_amount) as all_insured_amount, sum (premiums_paid_amount + upfront_premium) as all_sum_premiums, mnth_act.count as monthly_active ,...

sql

Mast

For development purposes, Linux trumps Windows big time.

8

Pimgd

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC because if you want to do development and gaming then you get Windows because it will do all the things

Zak

New User with a good first question.

Mast

13:38

@CaptainObvious Go away.

@Pimgd Dual-boot.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@CaptainObvious not even a message

Mast

That's what I have on my main machines. Windows on one partition, Linux on another.

syb0rg

@CaptainObvious Flagged as VLQ

Zak

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC you can't ping @CaptainObvious because it's a feed, not a user. You have to reply to the message.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Programmers - people who tell computers what to do

@Zak Oh.

Didn't know he was a feed (hope I got that gender right)

Pimgd

13:39

It's not for pinging purposes, it's primarily so people know what post you're talking about

especially because there's sometimes 2 or 3

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

why's he called captain obvious?

Mast

@CaptainObvious Closed.

Pimgd

@Mast but what if I just want to click buttons

syb0rg

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Isn't it obvious?

throck95

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC because Captain Slowpoke was taken

2

Mast

13:40

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC He's slow.

So we usually know half of what he's going to say before he posts it.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Mast the feed's slowness is a problem at PPCG too

Mast

Especially back in the day when there were less questions.

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Who said anything about a problem?

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

changing the topic...

Check out Spacewar! (play.starmaninnovations.com/spacewar) basically spacewar retro game except with BOTS. It's hosted there, you can post bots at the PPCG challenge

Zak

Is it 3pm already? Damn that was quick.

Duga

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this is not a code review site. You may be able to ask the question on codereview.stackexchange.com , but please first read their help pages about what questions are on-topic and also on how to write a good question. — AdrianHHH 17 secs ago

Pimgd

13:44

It sounds cool but somehow playing games at work seems too much like slacking

Mast

@Pimgd Yes @DanPantry, you're all a bunch of slackers.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd but you can write a bot to play against other bots. there's a text area for JS right there

Pimgd

Yeah but how do I put it

I dunno how to put it

games are... not work?

And this might be work?

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd scroll down. type your code. click "set userbot code". the bot with the name "userbot" is your bot

Pimgd

sometimes (<1%?)

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:46

no flash :)

Pimgd

also open plan office

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

unless you can't render HTML canvas, you're fine

@Pimgd ?

Pimgd

I'm talking about the idea that playing games whilst your coworkers (who are sitting next to you) are working is a violation of workplace ethics

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd oh.

what about chatting?

...

Vogel612

on the phone for 40 minutes and the chat has 120 new messages ...

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:47

@Pimgd thought you were in a private space

Pimgd

Well this is a website about programming...?

Jeroen Vannevel

quit yabbering on phones then

Pimgd

It's a super flimsy excuse

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

yeah

Pimgd

I lose plausible deniability the moment I start playing games or reading fanfiction

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:49

@Pimgd I just write my bot and don't scroll up to the game window

Captain Obvious

0

Q: How can I use vector for entering numbers?

I want to enter names, student numbers and student scores and display this information. I used arrays in this way: #include "stdafx.h" #include <iostream> #include <string> #define size 3 using namespace std; class student{ public: void vrod(); void dis(); int stno,score,i,n; }; void...

c++ vectors

Pimgd

You should post your bot as a code review question =)

Vogel612

@JeroenVannevel phone interview with gruesome acoustics

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Pimgd that's actually a really good idea!

Jeroen Vannevel

@Vogel612 you applying or offering?

Pimgd

13:50

@Vogel612 I am now imagining you getting interviewed by a bunch of sounds, rather than people

Vogel612

@JeroenVannevel applying.

Jeroen Vannevel

How did it go?

Vogel612

Reasonably well I'd imagine. I probably don't fit what they're looking for

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

apparently 199 of 200 computer programming job applicants can't write FizzBuzz

Vogel612

they wanted a sysadmin and I see myself more as a dev

also I think my hourly rate of 15€ might have scared them a little

Pimgd

13:52

I'd like to get that rate

Vogel612

It's a high pitch for a Student in the second semester, but I think it's reasonable for someone with a finished training

Jeroen Vannevel

what area?

Vogel612

Stuttgart

Pimgd

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC where are you getting that from

I heard 2/3 or 9/10 even

but 199/200 seems like you're doing some statistical magic

Vogel612

@Pimgd You could probably aim at 20 an hour in this area

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:53

@Pimgd the creator of SE

blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program

Mast

I think he's exaggerating.

Jeroen Vannevel

I get +- 15£ in London -- don't know how that corresponds to Stuttgart though.

Mast

One company having that stats doesn't mean everyone is having that stats.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

> I've also seen self-proclaimed senior programmers take more than 10-15 minutes to write a solution.

Legato

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC That's a bit outdated.

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

13:55

another company

Phrancis

monking

Pimgd

well pay is dependent on responsibilities ofc

uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Phrancis why is your username in italics?

Pimgd

I've had unsupervised junior dev roles before

syb0rg

@Phrancis Monking!

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC He's a room owner

Pimgd

13:55

but right now my first supervised junior dev role

Jeroen Vannevel

@Pimgd you're a graduate though, not a junior

Pimgd

the difference is immense and I can see why you'd pay proper devs a ton of cash

Dex' ter

Monking ^_^

Pimgd

also, if you've never had a supervised junior dev role before, get one first before thinking you can be a medior/senior dev =D

syb0rg

@Dex'ter Hello!

Pimgd

13:57

but more to the point, @Vogel612, what are you doing for that kind of cash

Mast

@syb0rg Congratulations on hitting HNQ ^^

Dex' ter

@syb0rg wazzup ?

syb0rg

@Mast I did? With that question?

Phrancis

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Because I am a room owner here

syb0rg

@Dex'ter Work. And Mondays

Legato

13:58

There's a great question / answer about this very topic on Quora, let me see if I can find it again...

Pimgd

@Phrancis wrong person try again

syb0rg

@Mast I think the bar needs to be raised...

Phrancis

@Pimgd Thanks, sorry about that

Mast

Legato

comic while I find it...

Pimgd

13:59

this room is a trap, what with the pings

Vogel612

@Pimgd sysadmin stuff

Mast

@syb0rg I think it's simply a slow day on the rest of SE.

Vogel612

most probably...

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