The 2nd Monitor

N3buchadnezzar

19:00

Is modifying in place bad?

Mat's Mug

modifying what?

the code in an answered question? that's asking for a rollback ;0)

N3buchadnezzar

Oh, I found the answer after some googling =)

syb0rg

0

A: Improving speed of moving average calculation

public class SimpleMovingAverage : Queue<double> { #region Fields double MovingSum; int WindowSize; #endregion #region Properties public double Average { get { return MovingSum / WindowSize; } } #endregion #region Structors public SimpleMovingAverage(int wind...

Captain Obvious

0

Q: PDF Conversion and Time Stamp Tool - MVP Winforms application to convert Word documents to PDF and add fields and scripts to PDF files

This is the latest edition of my PDF Tool, previously mentioned here, here, here, and inspired by my first attempt at a MVP here. Major differences from previous editions: It uses the MVP pattern (as opposed to the God-tier UI that did everything). The background/separate thread is gone. I wil...

Duga

So there actually is no issue? If not you should post your algorithm to code review. codereview.stackexchange.com — theblindprophet 8 secs ago

@theblindprophet Code Review isn't algorithm review, it's code review. We review the real actual implementation, not some hypothetical pseudo-code. Please see a guide to Code Review for Stack Overflow users — Mat's Mug 52 secs ago

@theblindprophet "you should post your algorithm to code review" should have been "you should post your working code to code review" then. — Mat's Mug 11 secs ago

syb0rg

19:19

I just realized that I have at least 50% of my questions starred

2

Hello @LukeG

Mat's Mug

in VBA Rubberducking, 19 secs ago, by Duga

> @Talorthain thanks! We'll try to issue a beta release tonight (shhh! it's a seekrit!) :wink:

Mast

@Legato We can help you with titles ^^

Mat's Mug

and 38 watchers just got a notification about it

syb0rg

@Mat'sMug 259 issues? Dang

Mast

@Legato Ooh, I'll flesh out my MALP a bit and enter that ^^

Mat's Mug

19:30

@syb0rg more like a "todo list"

Legato

@Mast Awesome!

syb0rg

@Mat'sMug I wish "issues" was named better

Mast

@Legato Think Raspberry with webserver with servos with LEDs with cameras.

syb0rg

Like "Requests" would be a better category, and then they could have subcatagories

Legato

'll reword it later(after work) to make it more appealing / generally inviting. I think it'd be fun, but I suppose that's a given since I suggest it.

Mat's Mug

19:31

v2.0 milestone: 54 open, 307 closed. critical: 1. bug: 28... and some should probably be closed... I need more time to test things!

Legato

@Mast Can't wait to see it!

I have an idea of what I'd make too.

Just want to see how everyone else feels.

N3buchadnezzar

There are more trees on earth than stars in the milkey way

Pimgd

yes, thanks for reading reddit

... wow I'm grumpy, apparently

sorry

syb0rg

@Pimgd You Canadian you

Legato

Good of you to recognize your own b.s. and apologize.

*offers virtual cookie to both*

Mat's Mug

19:41

@N3buchadnezzar except stars don't blow up at the same rate trees are being chopped

Pimgd

timber!!!

supernova happens

N3buchadnezzar

Ohio is the only state that does not share a letter with the word "Mackerel"?

@Pimgd Found on imgur actually with source to Reddit. Just thought not everyone stayed on reddit / imgur constantly. Sorry for reposting.

Legato

Don't be sorry, I don't lurk either, it's definitely new to someone.

Mast

19:59

@Legato Same here, it's a whole lot of mess right now and a whole lot of missing-a-client-to-do-decent-communications-with.

RoboSanta

Ripe zombie; open question with answers, at least one answer having score 0, no answer having score > 0: Home page (index.php) of a website for finding products php html typescript

skiwi

14

A: Do crocodiles age?

Well, this needs to be broken down into two parts. Do Crocodilians age (undergo senescence), and are Crocodilians immortal (will only die of external causes)? Are Crocodilians immortal? - No. They appear to live about as long as humans before they die. Measuring crocodile age is unreliable,...

wtf ^^

Mast

@skiwi No, they don't, time stands still for them...

@RoboSanta Yuck. @janos Are questions that have been pimped like this automatically excluded from being pimped again?

Since some answers are simply not worth an upvote.

They should get another answer, but in case of php, well, it's php...

@syb0rg Same here, 17 out of 31.

Some of my questions do very well, others are almost ignored.

Duga

It looks like you're implementing the actual calculator logic in the form itself. That's a good spaghetti recipe. Once you get it to work as intended, it would be nice if you posted your code on Code Review to get feedback on any/all aspects of the code, to make it better, cleaner, more efficient, flexible and maintainable. — Mat's Mug 42 secs ago

Mat's Mug

@skiwi cut it in two, count the rings

skiwi

20:11

@Mat'sMug I'm pretty sure it still dies then, right?

A_S00

apparently that is actually how you do it

"The most common method is to measure lamellar growth rings in bones and teeth—each ring corresponds to a change in growth rate which typically occurs once a year between dry and wet seasons."

Mat's Mug

@skiwi petty detail

@A_S00 ha!

Mast

WTF is wrong with the system, I got over 1100 helpful flags on SO.

Why do I get a lot of badges all of a sudden.

Quill

I just got the Marshal badge on CR with 540 flags as well

syb0rg

@A_S00 Lamellar reminds me of Materials Science

Quill

20:13

9

Q: Something's wrong with excavating

The excavator has been awarded to... many users just some time ago. What a... bug? Certainly it is, too many unavailable posts :D Also looks like it's everywhere. SO's got a similar problem a couple of minutes before.

bug edit-badges

Mat's Mug

devs are looking into it

Mast

We're investigating. — Adam ♦ 38 secs ago

N3buchadnezzar

Is not badges awarder periodically instead of instantaneously ?

Mast

Since this affects A LOT of users, there will be a lot of views on that question.

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast Hopefully he can find the rotten apple ;-)

Mast

20:16

@N3buchadnezzar Yes and no.

Quill

wow! raised 1500 flags /s

Mast

It's like 'once a day' for the big ones and 'when it's irreversible plus a few minutes' for the lesser ones.

@Quill Marshal on CR twice?

Quill

yeah

Mast

Awesome.

Now go to your profile and see if you actually got it twice :P

syb0rg

Three more votes on this and I get the guru badge I think: codereview.stackexchange.com/a/56807/27623

Mast

20:18

Oh, crap, I got even more badges now.

Quill

Mat's Mug

@Mast then take a screenshot because it'll be gone when the devs fix it ;p

Mast

2

Shiiiiiit.

skiwi

@Mast lol, that looks broken :D

Mast

@skiwi Yea, what gave it away? ^^

syb0rg

20:19

All I got was one lousy Excavator badge :(

Mast

@Quill The votes on that question, it's going through the roof.

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast 'n' badges on the wall, take one down pass it around ...

Mast

@N3buchadnezzar I got a script for that ^^

99 badges of beer on the wall.

N3buchadnezzar

def badges():
while True: yield "you deserve another badge"

4

A_S00

feel_validated.py

Legato

20:26

Yeah, I just got it. Just cause.

They should just make a new bade, silver and award it to those who experience a bug.

Mast

@Legato Just Cause 3x.

Legato

badge*

Mast

I don't know what they did and I expect (hope) they'll extensively cover it in a blog post.

Legato

Just excavator here. I got it may 19 of last year, and also just now.

Mast

But this is screwing-up the badge system big time.

yo'

20:27

@Legato it exists, twice: Good Question and bug silver badge on Meta Stack Exchange

Mat's Mug

is someone going to come up with a funky explanation for what happened here, and ask for a swag contest on MSE for the best story?

Quill

40

Q: Excavator and Marshall badges are being awarded over and over

The excavator has been awarded to... many users just some time ago. What a... bug? Certainly it is, too many unavailable posts :D Seems to affect Marshal and Excavator. Also looks like it's everywhere. SO's got a similar problem a couple of minutes before. Moreover, I can has THREE X mar...

bug badges

40 votes

@Mat'sMug doubt it, it's not a crashing bug

Mat's Mug

no, but it's a funny one

skiwi

@Quill Yet

Mast

Probably won't turn into one either, unless they start spawning badges every 5 minutes and won't stop for months.

Mat's Mug

20:30

looks like it's almost fixed now

Mast

Oh, I already lost some of them.

The excavators are gone.

yo'

@Mast the Powers are wiping the spills....

Mast

Guess so.

Mat's Mug

HI SIMON!!

Simon Forsberg

HI MAT'S MUG!!

syb0rg

20:33

@Mast Dang it, the one badge I did get

Simon Forsberg

@Mat'sMug @Mast I think elections started in June, but we got elected in July.

Mat's Mug

I did say "late June" :)

bleh, whatever

we'll see when that Sheriff badge comes in

Mast

@Mat'sMug 6-8 weeks.

Mat's Mug

lol

Simon Forsberg

@Mast In this case I think it's more 2-8 weeks for once.

Mast

20:35

Not too much earlier today.

Almost like it's related.

Mat's Mug

20:46

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A: Excavator and Marshall badges are being awarded over and over

We just did a major revamp of how badges are awarded behind the scenes to drastically reduce the load on SQL Server. It now takes advantage of some pre-compute work we're doing to track badge progress in the profile. However, I screwed up 2 queries, specifically the text names of the badges that...

Mast

@CaptainObvious Does it work as intended after the changes?

> However, I screwed up 2 queries

We kind of noticed.

Mat's Mug

I don't always screw up my queries. But when I do, I do it on the production server.

5

Mast

lol

Note that they answered the issue within 29 minutes.

29 minutes.

That's good people.

That's very well.

@TZHX Yes, in SQL 2016 on compat 130. I have been fighting fires the past 2 days and trying my best not to let users notice anything is happening. I failed here :( — Nick Craver ♦ 56 secs ago

N3buchadnezzar

Btw where is the first monitor?

Legato

Being facetious or actually asking?

Mat's Mug

20:54

@N3buchadnezzar it's hidden

syb0rg

TTQW

Bye everyone

Mat's Mug

later!

Legato

The first monitor came after the second!

tricks.

Mat's Mug

lol, true

"The 2nd Monitor" was coined quite early in The Great Revival actually

Simon Forsberg

@N3buchadnezzar @Legato The 1st Monitor is actually the name of our moderator chat room :)

And then we also have The Nth Monitor, which allows for some more loose talk.

Legato

21:05

I guessed what the 1st was, thanks for confirming though.

N3buchadnezzar

@SimonForsberg Nice to know =)

@SimonForsberg Funny that you have n rooms for loose talk ;-)

mumbling something about programmers should have used zero-based numbering

Mast

I think The 2nd Monitor existed before The 1st Monitor though.

It's a rip-off.

Legato

It definitely did.

Mast

@N3buchadnezzar The 0th Monitor?

Mat's Mug

17

A: What should be the name of our main chatroom?

The 2nd Monitor We all [hopefully - if not you're missing out!] work with at least two monitors. I noticed I keep the chat window open on my 2nd monitor [almost] all the time. Having a 2nd monitor is also quite handy during an actual peer review. I think it makes a perfectly suited name for our...

Simon Forsberg

21:08

@Mast True. It did.

And good night

Legato

Good night.

Mat's Mug

since Dec.11 '13

'night @SimonForsberg!

Mast

@SimonForsberg Night Simon, sweet dreams about your over-engineered Snakes'n'Chutes solution :-)

2

Simon Forsberg

@Mast Ah, still haven't starting coding that one. I'd better code it before Factorio 0.13 is released I guess...

Mast

@SimonForsberg Yea, or you'll magically run out of time ^^

@gdoron This wasn't a bug! We just decided to reconsider our recent generosity expansion. — Nick Craver ♦ 10 mins ago

Legato

21:11

Quick question, is suggesting someone post a question on a non-SE site against the rules?

Vogel612

no, not really.

Legato

Just confirming, thanks.

Mast

@Legato As long as it's a comment.

Would make a lousy answer IMO.

Vogel612

^^

Legato

Yeah, that's a given.

Mast

21:12

In that case I don't see a problem.

N3buchadnezzar

I think "W" is the best answer I have ever seen.

Legato

Math question?

N3buchadnezzar

The question was whether there existed a continuous function, which was non-differentiable in 5 places.

Mast

Second opinion?

Legato

No improvement.

Vogel612

21:14

meh... approve and edit.

fix the damn a/an issue

Legato

Yeah, only thing that's actually worthy of a change, but wasn't changed.

Vogel612

actually the italics are superfluous.

I'd have dropped them, too

Legato

Not worth the edit. Stylistic choice, not actually distracting, consistent emphasis. Agree to disagree in advance.

Vogel612

inconsistent, actually..

Trademarks, (but not Rubocop??), Class (but not error) and HTTP-Request Method

Duga

If the code works, perhaps move to Code review for an opinion? — Weather Vane 24 secs ago

Mast

21:20

I'm not entirely sober so I won't attempt to fix it (at risk of making it worse), but I concur something should be done. Just not what the proposed edit is.

I'd almost close the question for being too stubby.

Duga

Agreed. Seems like a good performance question over there. Voting to close as "Too Broad", since Stack Overflow usually does not deal with Code Review-Style questions. They have too many possible answers. — Vogel612 44 secs ago

Vogel612

it's ruby. it actually is that short.

Duga

@WeatherVane: People keep saying that, but I don't think it makes sense. First, code that fails to meet its performance requirements is not working code. Second, in your actual job, would you submit unworkably slow code for code review? — user2357112 28 secs ago

@user2357112 actually Code Review considers code that's provably correct, but slow "working". Time is not always a criterion of "working". Some people don't even have the luxury of codereviews at their jobs (~shudder). Additionally CodeReview.SE has the tags time-limit-exceeded and performance. Such questions are on-topic there. — Vogel612 14 secs ago

N3buchadnezzar

Seems like codereview is the dumpster for SO. "Eh, it does not really fit here. Not sure what it does / what the question is.. Hey, try on codereview".

Vogel612

@N3buchadnezzar you're mixing us up with Programmers

also it's gotten quite a bit better.

N3buchadnezzar

21:27

@Vogel612 Great =)

Duga

I refered to codereview help and I'm not sure this question is suitable there. — Henrique Barcelos 20 secs ago

2

Vogel612

wow... I'm actually kinda impressed :D

Someone else wanna join the fray?

DJanssens

Evening all

Mast

@Vogel612 Yea, I know, but we usually wrap it at least in a def

@Duga People actually read that? Good!

3

@N3buchadnezzar Ping me if you don't have an answer on your latest question in 18 hours. I should have the time to write you one by then.

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast No hurries

Hosch250

21:46

Got a bug with the badges?

I was just alerted twice that I had earned Marshal.

I've had that since July 6 2015.

Quill

65

Q: Excavator and Marshall badges are being awarded over and over

The excavator has been awarded to... many users just some time ago. What a... bug? Certainly it is, too many unavailable posts :D Seems to affect Marshal and Excavator. Also looks like it's everywhere. SO's got a similar problem a couple of minutes before. Moreover, I can has THREE X mar...

bug status-completed badges

Mast

@Hosch250 Scroll up. It will all become clear.

Vogel612

→ 8 messages moved to The Nth Monitor

Mast

@Vogel612 One of them does not belong there.

in The Nth Monitor, 2 mins ago, by Mast

@Hosch250 Scroll up. It will all become clear.

Vogel612

whoops.

collateral

N3buchadnezzar

21:52

I thought it was funny :p

Quill

← 1 message moved from The Nth Monitor

Vogel612

now that's messy

at least it's not yt-onebox spam tho

Quill

The Nth Monitor is messy

Mast

@Vogel612 It happens.

Vogel612

it's a better trash can @Quill :D

Duga

21:55

possible answer invalidation by 200_success on question by Tony Stark: codereview.stackexchange.com/posts/131140/revisions

Mast

@Duga You really don't want to get Tony Stark angry.

Vogel612

Edit summary: "OCR"

Quill

@Duga WUT

Vogel612

there's a code-block in the quote

Mast

@Vogel612 Which, oddly enough, exactly describes what happened.

Optical Character Recognition.

As in, human picture-to-text-translation.

Vogel612

21:56

I know. Skiwi used to be knees deep in that

Mast

Our mods go above and beyond. As usual.

3

Wait...

We expect our mods to excel. They should probably find another selling point.

We don't get impressed easily anymore.

Vogel612

@Mast yup. We're slightly ~cough spoiled

Mast

Slightly.

Quill

Feel the Code Review love

N3buchadnezzar

@Mast Is Jake the excel guy?

Mast

21:59

@N3buchadnezzar No, @Zak is.

Quill

and Mat'sMug

Vogel612

@N3buchadnezzar who the heck is Jake?

N3buchadnezzar

@Vogel612 Apparently not the excel guy

Quill

147

Q: Is Google using ReCaptcha as a free source of human-intelligent labour?

Having worked at the Amazon Mechanical Turk for a long time, I find that some ReCaptcha questions are very similar to the 1c tasks there. Identify this, identify that. A search shows that several web authors share the same suspicion. Most of them are high in the tinfoil scale, so they are not th...

technology google

Mast

@Quill Yea, that went HNQ a day ago or so.

This is amazing. You went on conspiracy theory blogs to see whether it was true, even though google makes no secret of this and it's explicitly written on recaptcha's website... — Najib Idrissi Jun 3 at 10:07

Quill

22:00

lol

Mast

For those of us who like human OCR, think about joining PGDP.

Link

Vogel612

PGDP = Project Gutenberg Distributed Proofreaders

Duga

Here's me expecting that if someone is asking "is it possible" that would imply "how would it be done", but I digress. As for the purpose of this rule, the X.C assembly itself currently requires X.B for portions of its code (and needs refactoring), but there is a specific folder that cannot access X.B, thus not allowing us to remove the assembly reference (yet). In addition to that, programmers that are new to our framework regularly want to re-add the assembly, which tends to be missed in code review. As for which code analysis tool, I would lean toward using Roslyn, if possible. — Spazmoose 44 secs ago

Vogel612

@Duga fp

also... damnit you're not smokey

Quill

lol

rob0t

22:33

Hello @syb0rg

200_success

The questions feed isn't working.

This scala question slipped through, and got answered in half an hour (unfortunately).

-1

Q: SCALA: How do compare element in list with all other elements to remove in on certain condition

I have a list object that contains names of all files present at particular location. The location contains 2 types of files .prof and .data files. I want to parse the list and remove the .prof elements if corresponding .data files are not present. How can I achieve this using map/filter? ListO...

algorithm scala

syb0rg

Down vote applied

@200_success Should I flag that answer in this case? On one hand I know the mods know about it, but on the other hand I need to raise more flags

Quill

@200_success It looks like it's a chat issue, the actual feed has the question in it

> Also, if anyone is active in the Code Review community, I'd also be interested in knowing whether HRM questions would be welcome or unwelcome there, as well, but I suppose here on Meta.SO, that information should be offered in the comments.

7

Q: Can I ask about assembly programming in the game "Human Resource Machine"?

There's a Steam/iOS game called "Human Resource Machine", where you solve levels and advance by programming in a proprietary assembly language. The game is essentially an introduction to the fundamentals of programming, at the assembly level, aimed at novices, or kids, or OCD weirdos like me who...

discussion scope

rob0t

22:52

Hello @Dmitry Nogin

Mast

@Quill !@#$ you, I was halfway with an answer before realizing it's on MSO instead of MCR.

Quill

lol

Joe Wallis

I was going to ask a HRM question before, it'd be on-topic right? It has a non-gui language (and a gui one) and has an interpreter... So I can't see why it'd not be for CR.

Mast

@Quill @200_success Does that mean a bug report is incoming or is a known issue at work here?

Quill

probably chat caching issues

Mast

22:57

@JoeWallis Sure, go ahead. We've reviewed tis-100 and scratch before.

Minecraft would be stretching the rules, but perhaps even that would be on-topic.

Quill

otherwise, @200_success if you want to write up a meta post, I'll pimp in the tavern and see if I can get a dev to take a look

Joe Wallis

@Mast The lack of a tag was the main turn-off for me, it'd probably just be un-answerd. But that's legit. How 'Minecraft', as in redstone?

Quill

redstone, repeaters, switches

they're mostly just renamed circuitry parts

Mast

@JoeWallis Yea.

If lacking a tag is a problem, we'll make it for you.

But I think you can make it yourself.

You got 1.5x my rep.

Joe Wallis

Oh, that's cool. I probably can, but it'd probably be a dead question, :/

Mast

23:02

How much is it on Steam?

Joe Wallis

6 pounds 99 pence, I don't have the pound sign, the joys of non-UK keyboards.

Quill

@JoeWallis 200_success reviewed my Scratch question pretty well

also it turns out there's a website that does a plaintext version of Scratch code, so we might want to update our rules to use that just in case future Scratch questions

Mast

@JoeWallis You'll be fine. I'll probably try it somewhere next week. Obligatory ping to @Pimgd as well.

200_success

0

Q: Chat rooms are not receiving question feeds

There seems to be something preventing question feeds from appearing in chat. For one example, the Code Review chat room's feed subscriptions include Recent Questions - Code Review Stack Exchange and Recent Questions - Code Review Meta Stack Exchange, but no chat messages have been relayed from ...

bug chat feed

Joe Wallis

@Quill Is there something that 200_success isn't good at?

6

Quill

23:05

@JoeWallis nope, he's successful at everything

Mast

@Quill Heck no. We still want that to be exception cases. Allowing questions to contain images instead of code blocks for languages which really should get code blocks is opening the door for evil.

Quill

why don't you love me, Markdown

Mast

markdown

oooh

Use * instead.

markdown

Joe Wallis

I'm sure _ works too...

Mast

Yea, but more error prone apparently.

200_success

23:06

Jun 2 at 16:45, by 200_success

@Mast There are two university courses that I didn't do well in. One was Digital Design. The other was a physics course at 8 am.

Quill

3

Q: Chat rooms are not receiving question feeds

There seems to be something preventing question feeds from appearing in chat. For one example, the Code Review chat room's feed subscriptions include Recent Questions - Code Review Stack Exchange and Recent Questions - Code Review Meta Stack Exchange, but no chat messages have been relayed from ...

bug chat feed

Mast

@200_success I almost forgot about that :-)

rob0t

23:18

Hello @syb0rg

Vogel612

@syb0rg that's a repeat message.. is rob0t stable?

rob0t

@Vogel612 Could I borrow a cup of sugar?

syb0rg

@Vogel612 No, I left and rejoined the room

He's stable

Tho I really should implement a kill command for others in the chatroom to use

Vogel612

worst case an RO can kick (or a mod will suspend)

syb0rg

@Vogel612 He's also only online when I am, so I can take him off if need be

Joe Wallis

23:22

@Quill Does this apply to Duga too? I know Captain Obvious is not a 'person'.

syb0rg

It'll be a while before I let him in here unsupervised

Vogel612

@JoeWallis shouldn't apply to duga.

Duga is not a feed

Quill

I don't know why it reposted here....

Vogel612

@Quill script going rampant?

Quill

@JoeWallis Captain Obvious is an RSS feed, Duga is a bot

@Vogel612 no like I don't know why I posted 200_success' question

Vogel612

23:24

why use "it" then?

Joe Wallis

Oh, is there an exception made for Jamal, cause this wasn't messaged, as 'possible answer invalidation'.

Quill

@Vogel612 I'm not using a script

Vogel612

hrngh...

carp

Random guess... SQL blew up RSS and the StackAPI?

@JoeWallis there's no exception for Jamal (nor for anyone else)

Joe Wallis

Oh, Duga's still alive, I probably won't worry about it then. Thanks, )

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