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17:03
Afternoon
@EthanBierlein Greetings
How's the leg and the laptops?
Good, so far
Your Windows Vista laptop is really suffering
First, you have Windows Vista in it
2nd, you made a forkbomb run on startup
Wow, I've almost gotten +100 rep on Super User today from that question alone.
It's an interesting question
But honestly
The fix is quite stupid
17:06
@IsmaelMiguel I'm thinking I might just put the laptop out of it's misery.
Nah, don't do that
Wait
Can we move this to the other room?
By putting Windows 7 on it and giving it away to someone who needs it.
I suggest installing an SSD first
They are cheap now-a-days
I had a Kingston V200 a while ago
I've seen some as low as 35 dollars.
After 22 months, it died
They had some reliability issues
17:08
a laptop is probably lightweight enough to end via viking funeral if you can find something to keep it afloat
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They would crap out after 3-5 months
and if it's the right brand, it even self-ignites
I got a Kingston v300 now and no complaints so far
@DanLyons Apple?
at this point, it seems all laptop brands have had burning battery issues at one point or another
I have a desktop and 2 nearly-dead laptops
17:10
@DanLyons Yeah, like the iPhone 5c that overheated and ignited in one girl's pocket during school.
@EthanBierlein What can we say? She was smoking hot
it's the price we pay for making batteries out of highly reactive chemicals like lithium
Hmm. I need to to find some questions to answer..
Languages?
@DanLyons Well, who told those materials to be great for batteries?
Personally, I think we should make batteries out of plutonium. That way we'd know the cause of death for everyone: radiation poisoning.
17:16
@EthanBierlein And the world would end
Can anyone tell me the difference between L​i and Li?
Is that a question, or a statement with a bad question-mark?
A question
s/Anyone can/Can anyone/ then.
17:18
HI SIMON!
It took me 20 minutes to figure it out
@IsmaelMiguel Yes
@rolfl Long time no chat! What you been up to recently?
@rolfl What is the difference then?
@IsmaelMiguel the first one the L is a unicode char
17:20
@SimonAndréForsberg Since last time we spoke, I have ..... built a laundry, unpacked a container, been out of the country.... twice, built a box, been to a wedding, bought two cars, sold one, installed a driveway, and a pathway, planted some trees, dug some holes, and more.
0x4C3F vs 0x4C
@SimonAndréForsberg Sorta wrong. There's a 0-width whitespace there.
My parents have been staing with me for 8 weeks, and they're now in their own house.....
... which needs a lot more work from me before it is "finished".
@rolfl Wow, you've been busy.
Yes, I know.
17:22
@SimonAndréForsberg Without an hex editor, and not being able to see the difference, it took me that long. I have a validator that was dying on that string. And I had to investigate
@IsmaelMiguel oops, my mistake. saved in wrong encoding
@IsmaelMiguel See, I was right.
Oh, right. Sorry.
@rolfl Not at 100%, but you weren't wrong either.
@rolfl Awesome! That IRL is quite something, huh?
17:24
@SimonAndréForsberg I was seeing it with UTF-8, which rendered that symbol there invisible to me.
I am in a pedantic mood.... your question was: Can anyone tell me the difference between L​i and Li?
The answer is clearly "yes"
100%
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totally agree ^^
@rolfl Yes, but I was talking about the 2nd question.
6 mins ago, by Ismael Miguel
@rolfl What is the difference then?
which I answered
problem solved
And he answered as well
17:26
Hi Lee!
19 secs ago, by Simon André Forsberg
problem solved
It wasn't a problem but a challenge for you
Ohhh... busted. My wife is watching me type from my home computer .....
lol
4
there's a 0b20 unicode char inserted in the first one
17:27
You're screwed
@rolfl which means...?
@SimonAndréForsberg Which is undetectable on an UTF-8 context
She just phoned me saying: "Yes, you are pedantic".... I .... was shockd ;-)
5
ahaha who needs spyware and keyloggers when they got a wife!
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I still need, cause I don't have a wife
17:29
(@rolfl she saw you star that)
@rolfl And that was just yesterday!
Black stars ;-) Adding yellow now.
Well 2/5 of those stars were mine
@JeroenVannevel Yesterday we drove for about 800km.....
And still all those things done
So efficient
17:32
0
Q: Permutation algorithm of N unique elements with low memory footprint

amphibientI actually had a real life need (outside work, no less) to come up with every single permutation of N elements (the N in my case being 12, so a total of 12! = 479,001,600) and run each one against a simple evaluation to produce some metric in order to determine which permutation is the most optim...

@SimonAndréForsberg what if i ask from any one ?if u cant help me its ok i will not take a help from you
@Hosch250 what u had left for the night?
@AsimAbbas This room is still not a room for asking for help about anything and everything.
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Several hours. I pinged you as soon as I saw your ping.
Oh, I had left the room. I went to bed.
You have only 1 reputation on Stack Exchange network, you were given access to this room explicitly in order to write (I'm not sure who did that, but someone did). Normally users need at least 20 reputation in order to chat anywhere.
17:50
Anyone want to kill one of my zombies?
Actually, it is only 1 zombie
I've been spamming RD and VSDiagnostics at my U.
?
You have been spamming RubberDuck and VisualDiagnostics at your University?
Yep. VSDiagnostics.
VS stands for Visual Studio, yes, but it is just VSDiagnostics.
I don't have anyone to talk about programming stuff
Just here on the Stack Exchange network
Same here.
At church yesterday, the question of the week was "How many sheep were supposed to be in the fold?" - referring to the parable of the 100 sheep, 1 lost.
17:55
I have only 1 friend here (his family is my friend as well, but they moved)
I jokingly said "4" (100 in base 2). Nobody got it.
They didn't even get it after I tried to explain.
that's because there is no 4 in base 2 :)
Isn't 100 pronounced 4 in base 2?
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Q: Adding/changing ID3 tags to media files with "artist - title" format

morbidCodeThis code put or change ID3 tags to media files based on their file names. It assumes the files are in this format: morbid angel - maze of torment.mp3 The resulting tag would be: Artist: morbid angel Title: maze of torment I used (boost::filesystem)[http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/release/libs...

http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/08/24/the-most-difficult-hello-world-of-your-life/
CommitStrip - Blog relating the daily life of web agencies developers
The most difficult “Hello World” of your life
CommitStrip
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17:57
You don't count one, ten, eleven, one hundred..., do you?
@CommitStrip so true
@CommitStrip tsss... make that twins.
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Had been my greatest fear!
lol... I can't relate to that. Yet...
@Heslacher I don't think twins are that bad in principle, it's goign to be a fear if you are only planning to have one more ;-)
18:04
Well Web.config eff you too.
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Q: Generic vector implementation in C using macros

ryvnfI while ago I experimented with macros in C and came up with the idea of implementing a generic vector library using macros. This code uses the non standard typeof extension that returns the type of an expression. #ifndef VECTOR_H #define VECTOR_H #include <stdlib.h> #include <string.h> #defi...

@CaptainObvious Vectors in C...
@Mast (Out of curiosity) Would C not be a good choice for that?
@SirPython It doesn't exist by default in C.
He implemented it himself.
C++ is good with vectors, C doesn't have them.
Does C++ already have vectors?
18:16
@SirPython Yea.
Just #include <vector>
What is a vector anyway, a sort of fancy list/array thing?
Depends on the language.... ^^^
A vector is C++'s equivalent of .NET's list, roughly
That is what I always used it as.
This has more information on C++ vectors.
18:21
Wow, and all this time I thought a vector was a direction with a force
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@skiwi - you're a candidate for swag, I believe.... on meta.so
...or a brand of cereals
direction and magnitude - doesn't necessarily have to be force
@Mat'sMug That's sort of what I thought; I thought that they were similar/identical to scalars.
@DanLyons I failed physics ;-)
18:22
@Mat'sMug I always thought vectors had a magnitude and direction as well.
Scalars were the ones with no direction.
@EBrown Your understanding is correct.
@Mat'sMug Shame on you!
the distinction is that the unit of the magnitude does not need to be force, it can be anything.....
@EBrown I blame XNA
@rolfl I figured, I aced High School physics. :)
Yeah.
A vector can be any measurement with both a magnitude, and a direction.
18:24
And this is why I can't program games.
My AP Physics class was the bomb. College statics; not so much.
@EBrown I aced Physics in HS and college, and took a B in HS Advanced Physics.
Or a lame vilain in Despicable Me
In C++ the term vector comes from the "fact" that the list is a linked list, where it has a value (magnitude), and a pointer to "next" (direction). Over time, the concept has evolved so much it is hardly relevant any more, though.
For example, it's not really just a linked list, anymor.e
@rolfl I love programming etymology
18:26
Sorry to bother you, but can anyone explain me this commitstrip? Honestly, I don't understand those!
@IsmaelMiguel you'll understand when you have kids
LOL.
Kids take up LOTS of time.
@IsmaelMiguel I thought you said you blocked the commitstrip feed.
Lots and quantities of time. I should know, seeing as there are 4 younger than me.
18:27
I blocked them, but I checked this one since at least 4 related to it
And they are usually horrid brats - I know, because I was one.
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If I could do something naughty and think I wouldn't get caught, I did it.
@Hosch250 I couldn't afford to be a brat.
Probably fortunately for me, I was regularly caught.
Lets just say that my father wasn't exactly an example to follow.
Or someone you want to have at less than 50km away from you
Yikes, that sounds like my paternal grandpa.
18:30
let's keep it at that
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Just to give you an idea, I ran away from home and lived a month and a half on the street just to be away from him
I seem to be missing a Stock field...
The business is going to be pissed I lost their stock.
One vote short: just pimpin'
Santa delivered.
18:36
in full
Well, it was just one vote needed ;-) But thanks.... populist on the way, I hope....
How can i improve this window timeout alert code is what Code Review is all about @Mast. I vote to leave open. — Malachi 5 hours ago
@Malachi The question was edited in the meantime.
Do you ever have one of those days where you do something really daft...... because you forgot you did them before?
Are there any C++ programmers around?
I have a very small question.
cough...... stackoverflow.com/help/badges/62/populist?userid=1305253 - apparently I already have populist for that.... but thanks for "good answer".....
18:43
@rolfl Congrats!
Will this compile?
typedef unsigned long long ull;
@EthanBierlein Have you tried compiling it?
@SirPython I'm on a mobile phone, so I can't.
Ah sorry. Perhaps IDEone?
@SirPython MindReader!
18:46
@EthanBierlein It should. And it should be 64-bit number at a minimum.
@Mat'sMug - I see you are enjoying the ♦-effect ;-)
additional opinions very welcome
I figure that means: "the question is clearer now"...
@rolfl I have no idea what you're talking about ;-)
@rolfl Huh how?
18:57
A little birdy whispered in my ear......
pssst. It's Stack Overflow, with a capital "O" ;-)
@Vogel612 That does clarify some things, but I personally still ahve some difficulty understand it, but that's not your problem
@rolfl I didn't whisper nothing
Argh... crap, and I am wrong, @skiwi - it's the author of the answer, not the question, that gets the swag
So many mistakes today.
> 114 answers
#SOrunningOutOfMugs
19:00
@rolfl :o still interesting to see that question pop up!
Last I checked, my answer to that post was #2
@Mast I see... let me take a look again
@nhgrif When I checked it was there, too.... and climbing
looks like someone took care of the comments, @Mast
what question are you two talking about there @rolfl, @nhgrif?
@Malachi I flagged a couple to clean things up.
19:04
167
Q: 10 Million Questions - Let's Share Some Stories That the Number Doesn't Convey

Tim PostIt's easy to look at numbers; numbers tell us that billions of developers have been helped by what we built. That alone is very warming and makes us feel exceptionally great about what we're doing, wouldn't it be nice to take a little time on a Friday to share some stories that the numbers can't ...

No point in having distracting comments around, people should focus on the question.
right I can't vote for your answers there, no votes
I posted a C++ answer. If I got anything wrong, please tell me. I'm still new to C++.
Oh boy, no code, no clue:
@EthanBierlein That's a lot of should without explanation.
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Q: How do I bring the website back?

bee25I took up the job to redesign a blog (wordpress using minamaze theme) - I thought it should not be too hard, until the employer asked me to change the language of the "Read More" button into a different language. I tried with the wp-admin tools with no success. After digging around on the Interne...

@Mast Fair enough.
19:15
@EthanBierlein I suggest adding the explanation or removing them.
The using namespace std; problem is indeed bad, I usually link to that SO question as well.
I don't know whether bools like the one you propose are readable enough, I wouldn't put it in my code-base without comment.
@EthanBierlein Just wow. Deleting a line because it throws an error?
Good luck, I guess...
Lol.... That's not a good way to program. If you program that way your entire project would be gone in about an hour if one line throws an error.
@Mast Why not? Should I have it return a bool and leave the if statements?
bool inRange(int x, int y)
{
    return x >= 0 && a < m && y >= 0 && y < n;
}
That's comparing 4 variables with each other and 0.
@Mast The right name is "between"
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Q: How do I bring the website back?

bee25I took up the job to redesign a blog (wordpress using minamaze theme) - I thought it should not be too hard, until the employer asked me to change the language of the "Read More" button into a different language. I tried with the wp-admin tools with no success. After digging around on the Interne...

19:24
@EthanBierlein git reset --hard
The m and a don't belong there? o.O
Jokes on her if she's not using Git
(She probably doesn't even know what Git is)
@skiwi The profile picture looks rather she-like to me.
@Mast Well sure, there are other things wrong with that function, but I was covering a different part.
@SirPython Fair point
19:28
@SirPython Nice answer!
@EthanBierlein Thanks. I just added something else to it.
Wow. I've almost gotten +50 on my Super User question.
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A: 10 Million Questions - Let's Share Some Stories That the Number Doesn't Convey

nhgrifJon Skeet isn't an expert at everything. I've always seen excellent answers from Jon Skeet. He is a legendary contributor to the site. His answers always strive to explain the why behind the problem, and for someone like myself who strives to collect as much knowledge about their profession as...

I rep-capped today...
omg
I have a new highest-score answer on SO...
2
What?
2
OH!
Nice!
19:53
> I have a bit of a problem with a "Setter" function. Setters don't return true. Setters just set a value, and don't return anything: a setter isn't a Function, it's an Action - an Action delegate that takes one parameter. Don't ask me the VB syntax for it though.
I hate VB.NET inline delegate syntax
<----- oh look, it says 50k here!
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Oh, yes, it does
But I ran out of stars today :/
just realized :)
You're starless now
Anyone want to recommend me a good Top Gear episode?
better: I'm just above 1K short of hitting 40K on CR :)
@IsmaelMiguel Polar expedition
19:57
@rolfl Can't find streams or download links
@Mat'sMug That's really better!
@IsmaelMiguel Really?
I have no words
@rolfl I tried torrentz.eu -.-
@rolfl I'm not sure such links are welcome on SE chat.
@nhgrif and I still can't vote....ugh!
Great answer though @nhgrif
@Malachi huh, how so?
19:59
@Mast That's OK. Being unsure of things is a fact of life.
@rolfl Is that the one they throw a mini on a pair os skies in a mini?
you vote-banned on SO?
> You've earned the "Vox Populi" badge (Use the maximum 40 votes in a day).
back to training.....
20:00
@IsmaelMiguel No, that's where a toyota hilux and a dog sled race to the magnetic north pole.
Oh
I think I know which one is it
And I think that's the one
Thanks for the link
@rolfl I love that answer
You're welcome.
45% done, and can't watch more than 5 seconds of it
20:28
I admire your want to optimize your program, but right now the way you are asking your question lends itself to a broadness that seems as though you are looking more for a coding service, which SO is not. So I have to flag this post. This may be better for Code Review on stack exchange. — ThatGuyRussell 28 secs ago
20:43
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Q: 'Mini Twitter' in Python 3

BlaZeI've written a 'Mini Twitter' (that's what I've called it) in Python. It includes a text-based login screen and user panel where you can create Tweets, and change your username and password. User's names, passwords and whether or not it is an administrator is logged in a text file. It also logs ...

@Mat'sMug You have trouble with VB properties and delegates? Or just delegates? I.e. Function(x) x.Property == True?
@nhgrif I like how you called out my answer to that question with one of your answers in it as well. :)
21:00
0
A: Latitude/longitude waypoint distance calculations, crosstrack, VMG, ETA, etc

jonrsharpeIt's not really clear why Odometer is a class. You only ever create one instance of it, and don't actually need any of the instance attributes. The only thing you could sensibly store as a class/instance attribute, the Geod instance, you actually recreate on every call. Also, the error handling ...

@RoboSanta Oh, nice work @janos! Didn't know @RoboSanta was alive.
@RoboSanta He actually picked a decent answer this time ^^
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Q: CoreFreq, a Processor monitoring driver

CyrIngThis is a request for any who would like to review my processor kernel driver source code available in the GitHub where intelfreq.c is the driver which reads CPU c-states counters every second ; and corefreqd.c aggregates them into performance ratios . The key ideas are : One kernel thread per...

oh, now that I look at @RoboSanta's activity, I see that it has been running for a while. I just always seem to have missed it.
@EBrown I just find the syntax bulky and annoying ;-)
21:13
@Phrancis are you around?
I need to get just the Year from a Date Time in SSRS, any ideas?
hey, thanks @Simon, and welcome back (I guess you were on vacation)
Nevermind I got it
oh, have to go
catch you guys another time
yes, I was away for two weeks. On a tiny little hill in the middle of nowhere in France. together with about 6000 other people.
21:18
See you.
huh
I think I finally just understood C# generics.
@EthanBierlein all the power to you!
(the hard part is not abusing them)
Unfortunately, I can't see how they'd be used other than in types related to collections of objects...
IRepository<TEntity>
IHostApplication<TApp>
ISmurf<TFoo>
Func<TParam1,TParam2,TOutput>
@Mat'sMug I've seen this in other C# code too, but why are you prefixing the class name with I?
21:26
@SirPython Because it's an interface, not a class.
because they're interfaces ;-)
Hah beat you to it. ;-)
I think some Mug should delete my last three Chat posts....I am so embarrassed at how easy that was..... and that I asked such a question in chat
yeah but mine has a smiley
@Mat'sMug Well then you win automatically
21:26
@Malachi wouldn't that be mod priv abuse?
Hmm, all this thinking about generics had gotten me thinking. Python needs generics.
you know what the greatest thing is about generics?
consider C# 1.1 and its ArrayList
everything in an ArrayList is an object
@EthanBierlein Why? Python's typing is pretty dynamic.
21:29
if all that's in it is a bunch of ints, you're boxing every item into the ArrayList, and unboxing every item out of it
with generics, you have a List<T>
and zero boxing
huh
wow
Generics are pretty powerful
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Q: Swift 2.0 JSON parsing

tailecI am looking for the best way of parsing JSON in Swift 2.0. I have this JSON { "latitude": 37.8267, "longitude": -122.423, "currently": { "time": 1440110395, "summary": "Clear" // optional field } } and field summary is NOT always visible in response. My model object and pars...

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Q: Console Calculator C#

pgerchevThis is a calculator I've made in C#. namespace Calculator { using System; using System.Collections.Generic; class Program { static void Main() { Dictionary<int, Func<double, double, double>> MyDict = new Dictionary<int, Func<double, do...

with generic type constraints, you can also tell the compiler that any T in Smutf<T> is implementing interface IFoo, or is derived from FooBase - or any TEntity in IRepository<TEntity> is a reference type (i.e. a class)
and you can have generic methods, too
Generic methods?
*opens MSDN*
Monking
21:33
public void Foo<T>(T foo)
monking!
Yup
Good monking @Quill
lol..
Which folder does CMD open when you start it, normally?
@Quill Your user's folder.
For example, C:\Users\Quill
21:36
If you run it as an admin it opens up in system32
@SirPython Ah, thanks. (mac)
@Quill Depends on how you start it.
There's a superuser question asking about that
There's a cool trick
You simply write "cmd" on the address bar
And CMD opens on that folder
I have to use command.com at my school, because CMD is blocked.
@Mat'sMug it would be worse if I flagged it, :)
@Quill You can carry your own copy of CMD, I think
21:39
@Malachi if you flagged it and I deleted it, the system would auto-ban you for 30 minutes if I'm not mistaken.
@Malachi Hey, did you get your question answered?
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A: Generating controls based on PropertyInfo

Mat's MugPublic Interface IViewModelControlMapping End Interface This is called a marker interface - an interface that does nothing. It's a design smell more often than not, because it's misusing interfaces to convey metadata. The .net framework has attributes for that; when you need metadata for a type...

pimp
14 mins ago, by Malachi
I think some Mug should delete my last three Chat posts....I am so embarrassed at how easy that was..... and that I asked such a question in chat
thanks @Santa, TTQW
@Quill Thanks guys, that was helping out this SU answer of mine ;-)
What's CR etiquette when providing bounties?
@Mast In what context?
21:46
Should I award it to an answer the moment a good one pops up, a couple of days after it was placed or moments before it expires?
It will be auto awarded after 7 days IIRC.
I usually wait about an hour before it expires
For sites like SO, where the solution is a fix, you should, though.
Hmm, I wonder if it's possible for C# generics to only accept certain types...
@Quill Speaking of bounties, do you approve of the answer to that question you put a bounty on?
4 mins ago, by Quill
I usually wait about an hour before it expires
I understand that. I just unsure if you agreed/liked it.
21:51
Hmm, I don't know. I read it, but, I felt it could've been expanded on a little more, on touched on the author's code a little more
I liked it, though. (whoops, forgot to upvote it, lol)
@EthanBierlein in what way?
I'm going to add more to my answer once I sort out something else I'm working on.
Sure, okay.
@JeroenVannevel For example, say I defined the class TwoTuple<TItem1, TItem2> and I only want the types TItem1 and TItem1 to be int, long, or double. Is that possible?
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A: Is there a constraint that restricts my generic method to numeric types?

Jeroen VannevelConsidering the popularity of this question and the interest behind such a function I am surprised to see that there is no answer involving T4 yet. In this sample code I will demonstrate a very simple example of how you can use the powerful templating engine to do what the compiler pretty much d...

21:57
@Quill Lacking a better idea, I'll stick with that.

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