The 2nd Monitor

Ismael Miguel

15:00

How many GB is that?

EBrown

150MiB.

Ismael Miguel

How many DOM elements?

EBrown

~50

Ismael Miguel

How may lines of Javascript you need to modify it?

EBrown

~30.

Ismael Miguel

15:03

Try the profiling tool

Probably the elements have some heavy CSS styles

Keep an eye on reflow

If you are changing an HTML element that already has styles, you should stop

EBrown

This is great. You can't use $('#MainContent_txtSearch').is(':focus') for what I want.

Ismael Miguel

Use a documentFragment

EBrown

Because as soon as you hit the enter key it loses focus.

Ismael Miguel

Attach a submit handler

Check which input has content and submit accordingly

EBrown

But inputs have content.

I need to submit based on which one the user was in.

Ismael Miguel

15:08

Is it for old IE versions?

EBrown

It doesn't work in Chrome either.

Ismael Miguel

Hum

You can follow this bad idea:

When the user hits enter, you can call a function and pass this as the input field.

Let me make a basic example

<input id="a">
<input id="b">

<script>
	function handleSubmit(){
		alert(this.id);
	}

	function handleEnter(e){
		if(e.which)
		{
			handleSubmit.call(this);
		}
	}

	$('input').keyup(handleEnter);
</script>

Something like that uglyness

Dan Pantry

@EBrown what are you trying to do

this sounds XY to me

Ismael Miguel

Wait...

Why don't you create 2 different forms?

Off-topic question:

Duga

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because belongs on codereview — Joshua 51 secs ago

Ismael Miguel

15:15

How do you handle a client that thinks that you are stupid and dumb?

Dan Pantry

@IsmaelMiguel get the work done for them and never work for them again

Mast

@DanPantry That ^^

Dan Pantry

you can't change their opinion of you so you might as well walk away or finish the job ASAP

Duga

@Joshua That question is off-topic on Code Review because it is asking explanations about the code. Code Review has as a goal to review and improve code you wrote, own or maintain. — Ismael Miguel 12 secs ago

Ismael Miguel

The problem is that the work is continuous

Dan Pantry

15:17

anything else will present you as unprofessional

EBrown

@DanPantry If the user is in any Qty input box, submit the addItemsToCart function. If the user is in the Search box, submit the performSearch function.

Ismael Miguel

I have to maintain the website

Dan Pantry

@EBrown Use two forms. Those are two different actions, they dserve two different forms. If you're doing any kind of hacking (like you are now), you're going to break any kind of accessibility tools because you're doing weird.

Ismael Miguel

Add articles and contents

EBrown

When they press Enter that is.

@DanPantry Can't, ASP.NET.

Ismael Miguel

15:17

I'll just ask it on the right place.

Dan Pantry

@EBrown you can create two forms in ASP.Net. There's nothing stopping you.

@IsmaelMiguel well, you aren't going to change their opinion

Either you walk away or begrudgingly take the easy money

Ismael Miguel

@DanPantry I know, but I won't bother you with things you aren't interested.

Dan Pantry

@IsmaelMiguel It's not that I'm not interested.. I'm giving you the real POV.

Ismael Miguel

Take the money, easy

Dan Pantry

If a person has already decided you're stupid then you probably aren't going to change that.

Ismael Miguel

15:19

I just wanted them to show a little respect and improved their poor grammar

EBrown

@DanPantry Can't, because the entire thing is already in a form from the Master Page.

Dan Pantry

@EBrown you can create more than one form.. its just a HTML tag.

EBrown

@DanPantry You can't have a form in a form, though.

Ismael Miguel

They are teachers and write in butchered Portuguese

Dan Pantry

@IsmaelMiguel They won't do that for someone they are hiring.

Mast

15:20

@IsmaelMiguel You can't.

Dan Pantry

You are there to impress them

Not the other way around

Ismael Miguel

They keep sending emails saying things like:
"Please, publish on our website this PDF with **the folowing text**:"

Dan Pantry

They aren't going to take out of their schedule because the person they are paying thinks they're unprofessional

Ismael Miguel

And then they highlight it all

Dan Pantry

@EBrown hm, true. I don't know what to say then

@IsmaelMiguel .....so?

Mast

15:21

Indeed, so?

What's the problem here?

Ismael Miguel

It's unprofessional and seems that they think I'm too stupid to understand where is the text

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel It's also unprofessional to try and change their habits.

Their problems are their problems, not yours.

Ismael Miguel

@Mast It started to be an "habit" on the last 5 messages

EBrown

@DanPantry Somehow, I need to lock it down so that if you press Enter in the Qty fields, it submits the addItemsToCart function, but if you press it in the Search field, it submits the performSearch function.

Vogel612

right.. The Workplace anyone?

Ismael Miguel

15:23

5 mins ago, by Ismael Miguel

I'll just ask it on the right place.

Dan Pantry

@EBrown you could listen to the key down event

EBrown

I could obviously do it with a global variable set/unset when the Search Box is focused/unfocused, but that seems wrong.

Ismael Miguel

You're late

Vogel612

@IsmaelMiguel yes... then again you're still tallking about it...

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel You got a project manager? You could talk with him about it, it's kind of his job to fix problems in the workflow.

Ismael Miguel

15:24

@Mast I'm the project manager. I'm the HR. It's just me and my boss.

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel In that case, you're screwed.

Ismael Miguel

@Vogel612 Because I'm being asked about it.

Dan Pantry

@IsmaelMiguel @Mast separate chat room please? or the workplace

Ismael Miguel

@Mast Yeah, I arrived to that conclusion

@DanPantry No need to.

Mast

@DanPantry No need, that was my final statement. I'm done.

Ismael Miguel

15:25

Conclusions have been taken

2

See?

There's just one question:

Why when it is 1 hour and 100 messages about C#, no one complains

EBrown

@DanPantry Is there a way to set the default button for the form to a specific button? I can then do something with document.getElementById('<%:txtSearch.ClientID%>').onkeypress.

Vogel612

okay great, now I only have to implement the saving logic and remove the stuff from the old form...

@IsmaelMiguel y u no complain?

Ismael Miguel

When it is a quick question and a quick exchange of ideas, everybody complains?

Dan Pantry

because c# is on topic and workplace stuff is not

Vogel612

@EBrown Ismael has a point...

Dan Pantry

15:27

(although I have noticed this with javascript as well. 100 comments of c#? fine, 100 comments of js? nope, javascript libraries chat room pls)

Vogel612

this is devolving into a 1 on 1 debug session...

Captain Obvious

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Q: Process PowerPoint xml in python

I run a tiny open source project to help create speech aids for disabled people (the github is here). One of the things that is useful is for people to design speech setups in Powerpoint, and then have the PowerPoint file processed to extract the images and the other information. The script be...

Malachi

I am going to butt in here, I haven't been following chat at all

Mast

@DanPantry Not everything C# is on-topic here.

@Malachi Welcome back ^^

Ismael Miguel

@Vogel612 I asked kindly to move the messages to another chatroom so we all could talk about it. And what happened? I was almost pitch-forked to death

Malachi

15:27

Review Queue Notifier no longer counts reviews that you cannot currently review

@Mast thank you

Ismael Miguel

Greetings

@Vogel612 Notice the keywords: "kindly" and "we"

I was interested in the conversation

Malachi

if you are missing me in the 2nd Monitor, check Javascript Libraries I might be posting updates on Memer or Review Queue Notifier

Ismael Miguel

Everybody threw his stone saying it was fine because there was no site business

Vogel612

no use to obsess over it now.

but you're right

Ismael Miguel

Sadly, I am right

I hate being always right

Vogel612

15:31

can we now stop being passive-aggressive and go do something (more or less) productive?

Ismael Miguel

Sure

1

Q: Process PowerPoint xml in python

I run a tiny open source project to help create speech aids for disabled people (the github is here). One of the things that is useful is for people to design speech setups in Powerpoint, and then have the PowerPoint file processed to extract the images and the other information. The script be...

python powerpoint

Free edit: removing the language from the title

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel And xml -> XML

Ismael Miguel

@Mast And the XML tag is missing

Vogel612

just for the record.. that was 4 messages about editing how much? 30 characters?

Ismael Miguel

Yes, around that.

Vogel612

15:34

you both have insta-edit privileges

Ismael Miguel

I know

Vogel612

go forth and use them

Ismael Miguel

I wanted to offer a free edit

Mast

@Vogel612 I fixed the title.

EBrown

@DanPantry I found it: stackoverflow.com/questions/7638119/…

Vogel612

15:35

@IsmaelMiguel is there a point in that? What do you gain from making the edit here in chat for somebody else (who most probably has insta-edit anyways)?...

@EBrown right.. can you get a room if you want to have a 1 on 1 debug, please right now?

Ismael Miguel

I wanted to offer it to someone. If someone who doesn't have insta-editpicks it up, they get +2

Mast

@Vogel612 He was trying to be nice.

EBrown

@Vogel612 It's not a debug session, I found what I needed. Conversation complete.

Vogel612

there is no such user active here right now

Ismael Miguel

I don't know

EBrown could want to edit it

He has lower rep than me, I think

EBrown

15:37

@IsmaelMiguel I have instant edit.

Ismael Miguel

I had no idea

I don't track users

Besides, I was trying to change the chat into on-topic stuff

It was a win-win-win-win situation that ended in a lose-win-null-null

Mast

Anyone who doesn't have Strunk & White yet?

Dan Pantry

@Mast strunk and white? wot

EBrown

@DanPantry Badge for edit 80 posts.

Ismael Miguel

codereview.stackexchange.com/help/badges/12/strunk-white

I don't

Dan Pantry

15:39

probably me, then

I don't edit often

Ismael Miguel

But I won't get rep from edits, so, I leave to those who get

Vogel612

neither do I... still got 200 edit over time..

@IsmaelMiguel no point in that. low-rep users often don't edit because nobody shows them how it's done

Dan Pantry

> I don't edit often

Vogel612

high-rep users (like you) can lead by example

2

Dan Pantry

> low-rep users often don't edi

:-(

Ismael Miguel

15:41

@Vogel612 I'm still in the "low" category

Vogel612

no you aren't...

Ismael Miguel

But I'm not on high

EBrown

@IsmaelMiguel Only when the new permission levels go into effect.

Ismael Miguel

But I'm not on mid-range either

Vogel612

@IsmaelMiguel 2k translates to mod-tools

that's upper mid range

EBrown

15:42

@IsmaelMiguel codereview.stackexchange.com/…

If you're on page 4 of 1858, you are a high-rep user.

Ismael Miguel

I will only consider myself high-reputation when I get over 5k

Vogel612

well then, nobody's stopping you :)

Ismael Miguel

Which will translate in a few months

Malachi

wow

Ismael Miguel

I know no-one is stopping me

Malachi

15:43

Github is being difficult, check this out

Ismael Miguel

Share it

EBrown

Anyone have any SO answers needing upvotes (while I'm on SO)?

Ismael Miguel

@EBrown You're free to check my profile

Malachi

@EBrown if you want you can scroll through my profile as well

Ismael Miguel

You won't find many decent answers

Or decent questions

EBrown

15:44

@IsmaelMiguel @Malachi No time for that, just figured I'd ask before I signed out of SO for the day.

Ismael Miguel

Alright

Malachi

cool

Ismael Miguel

Then I'll show some bizarre stuff

EBrown

If you have any (on hand) I'll upvote.

Probably.

Ismael Miguel

4

A: How/why is “ *[attribute^="string" ” a valid querySelector? (JS bug?)

This is primarly opinion based and is nowhere close to a definitive answer. Browsers are EXTREMELY complex. Done! Nothing is predictible on them. First, let's analize a list of faulty selectors: a[onclick^="ajaxLoad(" (missing ]) a[onclick^="ajaxLoad(]" (missing ]) a[onclick="" (missing ]) a[...

Malachi

15:46

@EBrown stackoverflow.com/questions/31748086/… --> stackoverflow.com/questions/29477886/… --> stackoverflow.com/questions/13056051/… --> stackoverflow.com/a/31705130/1214743

Ismael Miguel

4

A: MySQL OPTIMIZE all tables?

I made this 'simple' code: set @a=null,@c=null,@b=concat("show tables where",ifnull(concat(" `Tables_in_",database(),"` like '",@c,"' and"),'')," (@a:=concat_ws(',',@a,`Tables_in_",database(),"`))"); Prepare `bd` from @b; EXECUTE `bd`; DEALLOCATE PREPARE `bd`; set @a:=concat('optimize table ',...

^ next Code Review question!

Malachi

@Malachi do you have any suggestion? — bloom berg Jul 29 at 16:05

@bloomberg, yes, the one I have given — Malachi Jul 29 at 18:52

Mat's Mug

@rolfl I had my draft lying there for like 30 minutes!

rolfl

Snooze you lose..... ;-)

my-code-is-compiling.

Vogel612

@Mat'sMug and... are you a robot or not?

Mat's Mug

15:48

some people actually work you know :)

3

@Vogel612 nope

rolfl

16 secs ago, by rolfl

my-code-is-compiling.

Mat's Mug

yeah yeah

Ismael Miguel

Thanks, Santa!

EBrown

@Mat'sMug Some people also have a strange issue where the count returned is 34, but the data-set is 68 elements.

Mat's Mug

good to see you again in The 2nd Monitor @rolfl - feels like it's been forever!

Vogel612

15:49

my colleague recently told me his scala code takes up to an hour to compile

rolfl

@Mat'sMug I have been crazy busy, and still am. Today is an exception.

Vogel612

I was dead sure he'd be joking..

Ismael Miguel

@EBrown If you want to learn all about Javascript comments: stackoverflow.com/a/28412991/2729937 (You can use to other languages)

Mat's Mug

@rolfl good. make sure you rethrow it so tomorrow is another exception ;-)

rolfl

Yeah, the 2nd monitor is the default-exception-handler

IntensifierDescriptorMan

15:52

@IsmaelMiguel I do that comment pseudo-programming for testing all the time.

Dan Pantry

@Mat'sMug throw new MonkingException()

Ismael Miguel

@IntensifierDescriptorMan It's the easiest way. 1-char change to run a whole different block of code.

Dan Pantry

wait.

i screwedu p

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel For a beta, you're in mid range

Dan Pantry

@Mat'sMug function MonkingException() {}

rolfl

15:54

@Mat'sMug For the record, the past couple of months has been "planned" absence. It is in large part why I "resigned" when I did. I expect to be busy in my "free time" for another month at least.

Ismael Miguel

@Mast If that's so, when it gets out of beta I will be in mid range as well

Mast

Yea.

Vogel612

@rolfl how's the publishing work going?

rolfl

I am breaking promises with JDOM answers.... ;-) The publishing business is also taking second-seat by the way.

Vogel612

oh

rolfl

15:57

I have to run..... meetings.... in 2 minutes.

Vogel612

enjoy?!

Ismael Miguel

@rolfl ~~Break a leg~~ Have fun!

Mat's Mug

For some values of "fun" :-)

Ismael Miguel

Oh, yeah

Some types of fun aren't appropriate for such environment

Like playing with balls

Soccer balls, tennis balls, ping-pong balls

EBrown

@Mat'sMug Did that bounty I got yesterday get awarded automagically, or did you manually do it?

Vogel612

16:02

I was wondering, too

Jeroen Vannevel

I think I just wrote the biggest test in terms of LoC and method name length

Duga

Better suited for codereview.stackexchange.com. — D Stanley 15 secs ago

EBrown

I only noticed because I thought it had a couple more days to go.

I assume that answer was helpful, @Vogel612?

Vogel612

@EBrown well you mostly reiterated stuff I had already fixed after leaving the code alone for 3 weeks

EBrown

@Vogel612 Ah.

Vogel612

16:03

but yes, it was helpful :)

Duga

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it belongs on codereview.stackexchange.com — D Stanley 47 secs ago

Ismael Miguel

@EBrown Bounties are awarded automatically after 7 days. Or manually.

Mat's Mug

Manual, you earned it ;-)

EBrown

@Mat'sMug Aha, thanks! :)

Ismael Miguel

If the bounty isn't awarded and the question has no answers, it will have 1 more extra day to be awarded

Vogel612

16:04

@JeroenVannevel If this were the java room, I would instantly move that message

can we please stop pasting significant amounts of code in here?

EBrown

It still had like, two days, I thought?

Hosch250

Hi, @AsimAbbas. I had left for the night.

Ismael Miguel

I don't know the question in question

Jeroen Vannevel

Comme tu veux

Ismael Miguel

But I had awarded a bounty once

And it was left to waste

Vogel612

16:05

@JeroenVannevel arigatou gozaimassu

Ismael Miguel

So, I promised that I won't give any more bounties

Heslacher

Author added the code, please cast a reopen vote (if the code seems ok, I can't judge)

-1

Q: An attempt at implementing Maybe in C++11

I gave a shot at implementing Maybe for C++ and a slight twist in my implementation is that it uses thread_local static instance of Just and Nothing + placement new operator to minimize the number of (de)allocations. This is the first time I'm using thread_local and placement new operator, so I ...

c++ c++11

EBrown

@Heslacher Seems to be a bit much for an hpp file.

Heslacher

I have absolutly know clue about c++

SirPython

Can you award/reward a bounty to yourself?

Heslacher

16:07

I guess no

Mat's Mug

nope

Hosch250

I guess there is no need for me to say "no" too.

Duga

I think this would be better on codereview.stackexchange.com — WookieCoder 11 secs ago

Ismael Miguel

@SirPython Why would you do that?

Duga

Pls try this: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/20126/… — Luong Ba Linh 58 secs ago

SirPython

16:09

@IsmaelMiguel I wouldn't want to do that, but I just noticed a bounty previously put on a question by a user that has already answered that question.

Duga

As @huu mentions, you should post your code, but probably the most important would be to migrate the question to codereview.stackexchange.com where your code will be imporved. — Aleksandar 48 secs ago

Ismael Miguel

@SirPython Maybe he knows that there's more to say about it, but his knowledge about the language doesn't allow him to go any deeper than that.

SirPython

I would assume that.

Ismael Miguel

Like me on C# and Java answers

EBrown

Oh I messed up bad.

Pretty sure Transparentmucosal is not a word.

Ismael Miguel

16:11

Share with us

Yeah, it isn't

EBrown

It's supposed to be TRANSMUCOSAL.

Duga

@Aleksandar I'm not sure code review is the best place for a code fragment, since they like complete projects over there. — jaggedSpire 9 secs ago

EBrown

At least I know that when I called this method a heuristic method, I was not mistaken. :)

Ismael Miguel

That doesn't make it any better :/

I mean, the meaning is the same

Duga

@BryanOlesky Check kl1p.com/03kW for a code review — jaimetotal 10 secs ago

@jaggedSpire This would be considered a snippet and closed. The full code would be welcome at Code Review. Fix first, migrate later. — Mast 59 secs ago

Ismael Miguel

16:21

Off-topic question:

Have you ever felt that weird anxiety that "tells you" that something bad is going to happen?

Hosch250

Sometimes, but it never happens.

Usually just before I get the grade for my final in a course I'm not sure I did very well in.

Ismael Miguel

I'm feeling it

Captain Obvious

0

Q: CSS3 Flexbox: Creating my own "framework"

Currently I have an application that is relying on Bootstrap's Grid layout. I originally chose it because it was easy to learn and looked good. However, it didn't handle nesting as well as I thought it would. After investigating and finding out that it used float for all the grid classes, I do...

css

1

Q: SPOJ solution of GRAVITY

I am solving problem GRAVITY on SPOJ. I am using normal BFS but I am getting TLE. The time limit is 2 sec and my code should easily run within this limit. #include <bits/stdc++.h> using namespace std; #define ll long long typedef pair <int , int > pii; #define INF (1000000000) #define ull unsig...

c++ algorithm time-limit-exceeded

Ismael Miguel

But it has never been this strong to me

EBrown

> 583 results found

Ismael Miguel

16:23

I really feel that something really bad will happen

EBrown

> taking a minute in Chrome to adjust DOM

Wonder why I have performance issues...lol

Hosch250

Don't worry about it.

Ismael Miguel

Yeah, I'm trying to

@EBrown Why's that?

EBrown

Lets try searching for all these items again...

Ismael Miguel

Alright

Malachi

16:33

0

A: 10 Million Questions - Let's Share Some Stories That the Number Doesn't Convey

Convert Date from yyyymmdd to mm/dd/yyyy Excel Dealing with date data can get really messy, any programmer or database admin can tell you that much, so when I came across an instance where I needed to extract information from a SQL Server table and then insert it all into another table (short ve...

please help me out so I don't go negative....lol

EBrown

I'm surprised this answer there has DV's.

Ismael Miguel

It has 2

EBrown

I know.

No need to report data I can click a number to get.

Ismael Miguel

Sorry

Malachi

16:47

no more votes on Meta.SO

Ismael Miguel

I voted too much already in there

Malachi

another 150 rep on SO and I will Repmax! lol

Ismael Miguel

I promised myself not to participare there, and I'm breaking that promise

Malachi

lol

3

I have an accepted answer with 0 votes --> stackoverflow.com/a/18752129/1214743

Ismael Miguel

I'm scared to upvote it

Malachi

16:49

and another one --> stackoverflow.com/a/18114615/1214743

Ismael Miguel

Once, someone did a pretty awesome edit with a question I had

And it was smashed down and closed by Community ♦

Malachi

wow

Ismael Miguel

It just had 1 downvote

Malachi

on another note, --> stackoverflow.com/a/14696681/1214743 a third accepted answer with no votes

Ismael Miguel

I want to upvote them, but I don't want the same to happen to your answers

Malachi

16:51

I usually delete questions I don't profit from. never had one community closed

@IsmaelMiguel lol

3

Ismael Miguel

Well, to this day I have no idea why it was deleted

Since it was Community ♦ who deleted it, I'll never know

I could re-ask it

But the project I needed it for was abandoned

Malachi

OP Accepted and didn't upvote --> GREAT ANSWER --> stackoverflow.com/a/11040427/1214743

Ismael Miguel

@Malachi Not a great answer, in my opinion. Misses a bit of meat.

But it isn't bad

Malachi

I wasn't going to write PHP code for him....

Ismael Miguel

An edit to fix a few mistakes on your text and you're done

I got it

Malachi

16:55

<s>I barely</s>I don't write PHP code for myself

Ismael Miguel

I write PHP

I write JS

I make JS code run in PHP

I make PHP code run in JS

SirPython

You did write PHP in JS and JS in PHP in that PPCG answer of yours.

Ismael Miguel

And on polyglot

That one is my best classified answer on all the network.

I'm specially proud of the ingenuity of if("\0"=='\0'){ [php functions here] }

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