The 2nd Monitor

Ismael Miguel

11:02

@Quill Tempted to mark as spam

Quill

@IsmaelMiguel Well, it's a library that replaces the purpose of the whole code, so that might not be so bad.

Ismael Miguel

Still tempted

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel Same here.

But NAA fits better.

Ismael Miguel

That's what I did

Quill

There is no block like: if (()number1 >= number20) — Quill 34 mins ago

Consistent spacing. Sometimes you have spaces after your if statements sometimes you don't. I prefer personally spaces. I can't see any instances of extraneous lines after if statements. — Quill 35 secs ago

Ismael Miguel

11:16

@Quill I can't either

rolfl

@Morwenn - At a wedding on Saturday these folks were the entertainment..... For some reason I figured you would like to increase their youtube view-counts......

The Steady Swagger - Tales of a Turtle (Official Video)

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Vogel612

> -"Raw" - Bald guy from Germany

Mast

@rolfl On a wedding?

Zak

Does Captain Obvious pick up every new question?

Mast

That's unexpected.

@Zak Yea. It's the feed.

Zak

11:23

is it supposed to be instant?

Mast

@Zak No.

It's on a timer of sorts.

So it can take between 2 seconds and a couple of minutes.

Which is also why it sometimes brings 5 questions at once.

skiwi

@Zak Maybe, yes

But it's a bit slow

Zak

ah okay, cool

Captain Obvious

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Q: What is wrong in this code?

I am trying to solve this problem. Here is my code. #include <stdio.h> #include <string.h> #include <stdlib.h> #define MAX 105 int max(int a, int b) { return a < b ? b :a; } void str2int(char* s, int len, int* a) { int i,j; for(i=0, j=len-1; i<len; i++, j--) a[i] = s[j] - ...

c

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Q: Filtering and aggregating data from a multi-Worksheet Workbook

First off, this is version 2 of a previous question about the same macro: Previous Version. Thank you to Raystafarian, RubberDuck and everyone in chat who helped me make it better. The Macro accesses a workbook containing 8 worksheets each with similarly structured but not identical tables of da...

vba excel

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Q: I want to shorten this code as much as possible - window timeout alert

I have this code here, (function () { // timedRefresh(10); //3600000 delayedAlert(); var timeoutID; function delayedAlert() { clearAlert(); timeoutID = window.setTimeout(slowAlert, 10000); } function slowAlert() { alert("You may have been logged out ...

javascript

Quill

on a related note...

Mast

11:24

@CaptainObvious Burn, broken.

Zak

@CaptainObvious needs a new title

@CaptainObvious Shameless Plug :)

Quill

there's basically only function calls

Morwenn

@rolfl That's funny enough ^^

Mast

@CaptainObvious It reads like a feature request, the feature being shorter code.

rolfl

@Morwenn Their style is certainly energetic, and their stage presence is very entertaining. We were there with the kids, in very rural ontario, at a remote camp site as a wedding venue. I am not sure how it worked, but it really was very appropriate, and good.

Mast

11:29

To be specific, I "Refactored Mercilessly". The order of operations is roughly the same and the initial "GenerateReport" sub doesn't look much different, but everything else is entirely re-done. — Zak 1 min ago

Don't put it in the comments, put it in the question.

Comments aren't meant to be forever.

rolfl

Something about having a "full pig roast" on the back of a truck, an alice-in-wonderland theme, and an open bar, 50km from the nearest town, (town, not city), and it all just worked together.

Mast

@CaptainObvious RBA after 3 downvotes.

skiwi

@rolfl That's an oddly interesting combination

rolfl

My wife is a redneck, and family events are always entertaining ;-)

Vogel612

@Mast and closed.

Mast

11:33

@CaptainObvious Am I the only one who thinks this is off-topic? scope

Stack Exchange

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Q: Is "You're doing it rong" a review?

This question sparked a thought in me. To me, the author is not doing this for exercise (not tagged with reinventing-the-wheel and no mention of the sort) so I assume it is done for production. I happen to have some experience with LibGDX which the author uses, enough to know that the library c...

discussion

Zak

@Mast It's certainly unclear what they want feedback on

Asim Abbas

@Hosch250 hi how are you

skiwi

@rolfl Oh...

Asim Abbas

how can i update longitude and latitude in the database

@Hosch250 hi hosch sori for late reply

Mast

11:38

@AsimAbbas I haven't seen Hosch the last couple of hours.

Asim Abbas

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Ismael Miguel

Please, stop spamming Hosch

Mast

@Quill It's gone now.

Zak

It felt really good being able to write this :) "Good Sign: It went from an order of magnitude over the character limit to under it :)"

Simon André Forsberg

@AsimAbbas Let me just say this straight out: The 2nd Monitor is not a help center to get help with any programming problem you might have. Do it the proper way, try things, search google, break the problem down, and ask a specific question on Stack Overflow.

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Ismael Miguel

11:43

Thank you! I wanted to say those words but I would sound like as a$$hole

Mast

@SimonAndréForsberg I want the possibility to flag chat messages as 'help vampire'. But it would probably get shot down on MSE.

Ismael Miguel

I sense a feature-request

Vogel612

@Mast meh. if no RO is around, first tell the user to stop

if they don't stop, ping a RO

if you are through all ROs, go flag for mod attention and explain the situation

Simon André Forsberg

@Mast The correct action of 'help vampire' messages is to write them a message and tell them how to properly approach things, not deleting their message.

Vogel612

alternatively if they are spamming, then flag all spam, for 10k people to understand the situation with as little context as possible

Mast

11:46

@SimonAndréForsberg True.

I was going to expand on my proposal, but it turned offensive pretty fast.

Ismael Miguel

@Mast Same problem here

Quill

@SimonAndréForsberg Don't hit the vampire with garlic, give them some red cordial, and tell em where to get the blood

Simon André Forsberg

uuuum.... no

Vogel612

get the vampire into a rehab center

Simon André Forsberg

that ^^

Quill

11:51

:P

skiwi

@Vogel612 Trick question: Should the vampires be supervised by humans or by vampires?

Vogel612

often enough they stop bugging you, and ~~sometimes~~ surprisingly often they become useful members of the community

Mast

@Quill Kill the vampire.

Vogel612

@skiwi obviously werewolves

Mast

@Vogel612 I'm glad you have more hope in humanity than I have.

Vogel612

11:52

that's not hope in humanity.. I've seen it happen

Dan Pantry

Monking :-)

Ismael Miguel

Greetings

Zak

Monking

rolfl

The misspelling of "wrong" as "rong" is obviously intentional, but I must admit it just looks wrong to me! Is there a reason for it to be spelled "rong"? — rolfl 17 secs ago

TTGTW

Simon André Forsberg

Pro tip: Never set your sound notifications to "visible room". God, that was annoying.

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HI @ROLFL!

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Ismael Miguel

12:07

@SimonAndréForsberg That's life-changing advice. Thanks. Now, I'm paranoid...

Mast

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Q: How to preserve the remaining trolls?

During the early medieval age, the population of trolls is declining. These are savage creatures who aren't as cunning as humans, and not only are we part of their diet, humans are in fact their only source of food. An adult troll is about ten times as large as a mature human but half as agile. ...

fauna mythical-creatures

Ismael Miguel

Oh, wait, no. I already was apranoid!

Mast

Stack Exchange, one of the few places in the internet where questions about feeding trolls can actually be on-topic.

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Zak

12:24

does anyone know when @RubberDuck is usually online?

Quill

It's less internet slang than it is racist slur toward eastern countries: urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Engrish — Quill 2 mins ago

Dan Pantry

@Quill it is? I've never used engrish in a racist manner...

Zak

I hadn't even noticed people starred my question :) you guys are awesome

Quill

@DanPantry opinions on linguistic meanings differ, but, its use in that meta question is pointless

Regarding your observation about the InvalidCastException, it falls under the Bonehead exception category: "That argument is null, that typecast is bad, that index is out of range, you're trying to divide by zero – these are all problems that you could have prevented very easily in the first place, so prevent the mess in the first place rather than trying to clean it up." — dcastro 57 secs ago

lol

I'm surprised this groovy question doesn't have more answers

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Q: Scissors: A fluent API for manipulating lists using the familiar copy-cut-and-paste

What I've hastily named the Scissors API brings the cut-copy-paste paradigm made popular by word processors to the realm of list processing. The Scissors API is fluent, provides methods to manipulate a list, and maintains context through the use of a customizable clipboard. An example: Fixing Yo...

linked-list groovy

Jeroen Vannevel

I needed 4 more revisions but I finally figured out why throw statements aren't allowed!

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A: Why can't I throw exceptions from an expression-bodied member?

This happens because the first two code snippets (5 and Console.WriteLine) are expressions. More specifically these are respectively NumericLiteralExpression and InvocationExpression. The latter one (throw new Exception()) is a statement -- in this case: ThrowStatement. If you look at the Rosly...

(for the C# folks)

Quill

12:38

highly voted self-answer, nice

Dan Pantry

From article:
>Boneheaded exceptions are your own darn fault, you could have prevented them and therefore they are bugs in your code. You should not catch them; doing so is hiding a bug in your code

skiwi

@JeroenVannevel I guess we have a new Eric Lippert!

Jeroen Vannevel

But.. but I preferred the Lippert one..

Vogel612

@skiwi no you misunderstood...

Jon does Java...

C# is just a hobby :)

skiwi

Double ninja-edit then...

Vogel612

12:40

@JeroenVannevel you got too much upvotes to be Lippert.

Jeroen Vannevel

Lippert and a half

Mast

@Zak Usually around now.

He was around half an hour ago.

Zak

Cool. I really want to show off the progress I made with my refactoring :)

SHhow off is perhaps not the right sentiment

Quill

Self-answering is a valid form of answering here, (if you're talking about a SE question)

Zak

something more along the lines of "my-code-is-so-much-better-I-feel-like-10-times-the-programmer-I-was-a-week-ago-‌THANK-YOU!"

Mat's Mug

12:47

Would be nice to see the working snippet in this answer. — Stefan Steinegger 30 mins ago

@JeroenVannevel ^^ obviously didn't quite read the answer

Jeroen Vannevel

lol yeah

"It can't be done"
"So can you show how it's done?"

Mat's Mug

Nice Q&A there

Captain Obvious

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Q: HTML to Markdown converter

I've made a simple HTML→Markdown converter in Javascript and am looking for any feedback. For now, I've basically used Stack Exchange's /editing-help as a guide as to what to convert, but I might look at CommonMark's spec later on. It uses DOMParser() and then goes through the child nodes to con...

javascript converting markdown

Jeroen Vannevel

Thanks! I'm pretty proud that I managed to discover the language design decisions for not allowing it on my own

One step closer to becoming an expert

RubberDuck

@Zak I'm always online. Just not always in chat. What's up?

Zak

12:53

@RubberDuck I was hoping you could take a look at my re-written code and tell me what you think

Vogel612

hmm... something's off...

Ismael Miguel

Greetings (again)

EBrown

If anyone has any constructive criticism for this question I'd appreciate it.

Jeroen Vannevel

@EBrown You're still not using auto-properties

RubberDuck

@Zak I might be able to, but it won't be soon.

Jeroen Vannevel

12:57

Por qué no?

RubberDuck

BTW.WasteOfTime

Ismael Miguel

@Vogel612 What is it?

@RubberDuck Meeting?

Vogel612

my code stopped working,..

EBrown

@JeroenVannevel I actually did move some of them to auto-properties, after I posted that question.

Vogel612

and I have no clue why.

EBrown

12:58

I'd edit it, though it might be considered an invalid edit.

Ismael Miguel

Javascript?

Zak

@RubberDuck Okay, thank you. Do you know anyone else who might be willing if available?

Jeroen Vannevel

nobody answered that aspect yet so you can change it

It would help if you could update whatever you have already

EBrown

Alright, I also converted all the _PascalCase things to _camelCase.

Jeroen Vannevel

I don't like wasting time

Now we're talking

EBrown

12:59

I did both of those after it was posted...lol

Jeroen Vannevel

Soon you'll start using braces as well

Dan Pantry

Why do people use _fooBar instead of this.fooBar ;-;

Ismael Miguel

_privateVar

publicVar

EBrown

@DanPantry Because local parameters are fooBar.

Dan Pantry

@IsmaelMiguel I know what the convention is, but I don't get why it is used

EBrown

13:01

In C# I use: private field _fooBar, public property FooBar, local parameter fooBar.

Dan Pantry

You never have public variables, you'd have properties

Ismael Miguel

@DanPantry To easily identify them. Since you can write fooBar and you don't know which one is it.

Dan Pantry

local parameter one makes sense, but I just prefer this. rather than prefix with _

EBrown

So, using _fooBar for private fields allows you to easily tell it's a this. field.

Dan Pantry

this. explicitly says "this is on this object" instead of relying on code convention to point it out for you

holy-war-incoming

Hello @IntensifierDescriptorMan

EBrown

13:02

Yeah, but the new conventions are recommending eliminating this.

IntensifierDescriptorMan

Hello

Vogel612

be nice, and go play holy war somewhere else, will ya?

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EBrown

@JeroenVannevel Question updated.

IntensifierDescriptorMan

Making modals to confirm user's actions is so.... boring..... I mean, It's fine if I don't confirm a irreversible delete, right?

Duga

The efficient way is to start coding, then ask your question if it doesn't work. If it works and you're not sure it's efficient, you can opt for code review instead. — Mena 55 secs ago

EBrown

13:07

@IntensifierDescriptorMan Sure, as long as you don't verify input data either. ;)

Vogel612

@IntensifierDescriptorMan why do you have an irreversible delete in this day and age anyways?

also be glad it's modals.

Ismael Miguel

@EBrown And use root with an hard-to-find password, like password

Vogel612

that's a huge improvement over confirmation pages

Ismael Miguel

Yeah, he is right

Imagine a giant a$$ page just to say "I want to delete"

IntensifierDescriptorMan

Yeah, this is the fanciest thing I've made so far. So much Javascript. I love how it's looking. Older version had a delete page.

EBrown

13:09

@IsmaelMiguel We use them at work.

Because IE7/8 + Modals != success.

Ismael Miguel

Come on...

You can get a simple dialog

EBrown

Not with the options I need for work.

Ismael Miguel

May I ask what options?

Or it is secret?

EBrown

Government stuff.

Quill

This App Makes a Wacky Game Out of Sorting Your Email on Wired.

Ismael Miguel

13:11

Secret then

EBrown

We have specific government regulations that force us to do certain things in certain ways.

And a lot of them.

Ismael Miguel

@EBrown You're f*cked!

Donald.McLean

Greetings, Programs.

Vogel612

Greetings, Stargazer

EBrown

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Q: Add an html code tidbit dynamically through button or keypress

The code at the bottom will insert a form block that works as an invoice line generator overall. I would like to be able to add lines in between already saved and generated lines, but do not know how to proceed to do so. Does anyone have any ideas? Here is an example of what I want to do : Ge...

javascript php jquery html

Quill

13:26

@EBrown off-topic, asking for help writing unwritten code

Thanks, @IsmaelMiguel. Fixed now

Captain Obvious

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Q: Add an html code tidbit dynamically through button or keypress

The code at the bottom will insert a form block that works as an invoice line generator overall. I would like to be able to add lines in between already saved and generated lines, but do not know how to proceed to do so. Does anyone have any ideas? Here is an example of what I want to do : Ge...

javascript jquery html

Ismael Miguel

@Quill You're welcome. I've told that user on previous answers to declare the variables in the bloody loop. He ignored it always.

Heslacher

@EBrown I personally would prefer that you implement changes suggested from previous reviews before you post another question. I don't want to offend you, but it is somehow boring to bring the same stuff up for each question like for instance autoimplemented properties etc.

Vogel612

reminds you of the good old times of JDQ..

> I'm looking for general review and best practices

Quill

@IsmaelMiguel perhaps it's always buried in your always exceptionally helpful other comments

Malachi

13:30

Monking

Ismael Miguel

@Quill codereview.stackexchange.com/a/101207/53773 codereview.stackexchange.com/a/101412/53773 <-- those disagree. It's one of the first points I make.

Heslacher

hey @Malachi only 198 rep to get

EBrown

@Heslacher Unfortunately you cannot always use auto-implemented properties.

Especially in struct types.

Which is why I branched away from it.

Vogel612

@IsmaelMiguel these are huge

Ismael Miguel

@Vogel612 They are.

Vogel612

13:32

@CaptainObvious still needs some CVs

Malachi

@Heslacher I am working on it!

of course I have a house to sell, a job to get, and a home to pack, all within the next 4 weeks along with other things.... lol

Ismael Miguel

@Vogel612 Hammered down!

Captain Obvious

-1

Q: Paging in WPF applications

Paging control are used in WPF application.This control are used in MVVM design pattern.This controls are used in datagrid..

c# wpf

RubberDuck

Yeah @IsmaelMiguel. Daily stand up.

Ismael Miguel

@RubberDuck ?

Quill

13:36

@IsmaelMiguel listed first != !buried

Ismael Miguel

Still don't get it

RubberDuck

@Zak there's a reasonably healthy community around vba these days. Good questions in that tag don't go unanswered. Someone will come by eventually.

@IsmaelMiguel you asked if I had a meeting.

Ismael Miguel

@RubberDuck Oh, I got it. Yeah, you're screwed. Any more today?

Quill

Defining variables in the loop has no practical advantages, since all variables are function scope anyway. — Greg Burghardt 2 mins ago

Defining variables in the loop is a good way to denote their usage for the loop, rather than externally to the loop, although their use may extend after the loop. — Quill 14 secs ago

RubberDuck

Not today.

Ismael Miguel

13:38

@Quill You're kinda right. But I kinda set my foot away when I see the same user doing the same mistake 3 times and then still says he didn't knew about the right way!

RubberDuck

@DanPantry I don't get it either. I like the this keyword, but I use the underscore anywhere I'm working with a team for consistency's sake.

Quill

@Heslacher, it's best to avoid tagging with custom reasons unless absolutely necessary, the datagrid one probably could've been tagged with 'unclear what you're asking'

And yeah, even non-vba users are writing reviews, these days.

Heslacher

@Quill which question do you mean. Link please

Quill

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Q: Paging in WPF applications

Paging control are used in WPF application.This control are used in MVVM design pattern.This controls are used in datagrid..

c# wpf

Heslacher

@Quill There the custom reason is IMHO legit

Quill

13:47

'unclear what you're asking' would've been fine

Heslacher

"Unclear what you are asking" doesn't fit here, because there is no code in that post.

brb

Mast

@Heslacher Blatantly off-topic?

Broken code would fit, since there is none.

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