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21:00
@Malachi You should start counting in the minus after zero and see their confusion.
@skiwi Brilliant!
anyone?
Truly, @Malachi, it was a question about logic / trying to learn how to efficiently parse XML, if you don't think this is the right forum to find that out, I'll just delete the question... — John Bustos 1 min ago
it's a VB.NET question
don't close it I have an answer
crap
21:29
@JeroenVannevel No rep-removal here either. At first I thought that perhaps we were the voting-ring, but seeing as both of us are still here... I guess we're not.
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Q: Code formatting and overall quality

Paul DessertI've been using JS for a while but I've never had the need to make anything robust and my knowledge has been limited to simple DOM manipulations and other basic web front-end tasks. I decided to make a simple project and dig a bit deeper. I'd appreciate a review of the code below. I'd like to k...

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Q: PHP project directory structure

Danielactually i'm using this project directory structure http://framework.zend.com/manual/1.12/en/project-structure.project.html But recently i started using namespaces in all my php-classes like: Myapp\Configuration\ Myapp\Controller\ Myapp\Persistence\Entities\ Myapp\Persistence\Dao\ Myapp\Valid...

The VB might Compile, but I have nothing to give it that will produce results, that is what makes this pseudo code. I can't run this code because 1.) I don't know what goes in 2.) I don't know what is supposed to come out — Malachi 28 mins ago
@Malachi just because you don't know the input and output does not make the code pseudocode. It might be a bit unclear, but that doesn't change if the code is real or not IMO.
I started an answer after I posted that. because I saw stuff that I would do differently and then @Jamal closed it... I have some things to finish today, so if it get's reopened I will post tomorrow or tonight if my family wood cutting doesn't suck up all my free time
@Malachi Sounds like you have an axe to grind....
I have too many things to do and not enough time to do it all! and not near enough money to pay for half of it
@rolfl lol BTW.Normal
21:36
Well today has been a down day: screencast.com/t/Sf65x2pyPa2
Looks like a fan has been banned.
Yes... Today a significant vote ring was broken down.
@rolfl: Do we have some comment on meta about it?
Not yet.... and it's not normal to do that.....
I don't think it was a fan
@LokiAstari - about 3K or so rep has been lost system wide today.
perhaps more.
Apart from the people directly involved, and as far as I have seen, Jamal was the heaviest hit at -130 rep.
21:40
How on earth can it be that this ex-Santa did not vote for me and @janos?
I lost -70
I am not sure I should be happy about losing only -5
I lost 130
actually, on previous days I lost -55 and -20, definitely due to the same guy
O well just have to go answer some questions to get it back.
5
21:41
@janos sorry, I meant @JeroenVannevel
@LokiAstari That's the spirit .... ;-)
@SimonAndréForsberg Jamal and Morwenn are C++. You're Java, I'm Java/C#
In one sense, it validates that we are ready for graduation.
Goes to show what languages are the best
The C/C++ folk were more heavily hit.
21:44
This doesn't mean that we have lost a regular, does it?
one user can generate 400 per day. so 5 of us can bring back 2k a day. easy-peasy
Back to work
I'm good for that
@SimonAndréForsberg Potentially
@janos technically, you can accept some answers also.
true. so it's 2k++
21:45
@rolfl Well, if we have, I have just not been able to figure out who. All the users I check are still here.
too bad no private chatrooms here
and you can read chatrooms anonymously
@janos moderators can create private chatrooms though, where not everyone can read
Well, the penny will dop at some point.
The information is public, just not published.
Can we publish it if we know?
Because now I'm anxious to do so
Sure.
I can't though
I guess the powers that be wouldn't want to leak too much clues about gaming the system
It wasn't a big secret though; he's second in the list of top active users in the C++ tag in the last 30 days. But has 1 rep.
@JeroenVannevel you killed this fun game for everyone
21:51
EngieOP has been a regular recently...
@JeroenVannevel You're smart.
@janos No fun on my watch
3
:)
@LokiAstari I think this has affected mostly C++ posters. I've lost 110 myself, and I'm back below 19K. It still had to be done, and hopefully the next instance won't be as bad.
@JeroenVannevel However, it is said that it was a voting ring. So that user is probably not the only one involved in it.
If you go thought the most heavily hit profiles, like Loki, and count the number of lines in the lost reputation, you can get an idea of how many accounts were deleted.
21:55
he had a big answer on the lost HOBO
TTQW
time to Sell a website, cut some wood, and I don't remember what else I have to do
@rolfl 7 accounts?
or so... yes
@rolfl I don't suppose the hobo riddle asker was one of the accounts involved?
That would be some nice gaming. Post attractive question, post nicely layed out answer, reap hot question benefits
the Hobo Riddler
I just noticed he did that answer in 10 minutes after posting so it wouldn't surprise me
21:58
just realized that I posted big answer on the lost hobo instead of Lazy hobo
Hey..
His 3rd highest votest answer is this
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A: Printing 100 prime numbers

EngieOP STOP. Do not use system("pause"). This is not portable. If you haven't already, read this Stop using using namespace std. Read this. I mentioned this in your last review as well. You don't need to use std::endl for every new line of your output table. Doing so flushes the output stream needlessl...

5 minutes after the question was posted
Detective Jeroen is on the case
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@Malachi YIKES!
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A: Removing whitespaces in a string

EngieOP char* result = strcpy((char*)malloc(str.length()+1), str.c_str()); This seems more suited for a C program than a C++ one. In fact, with C++11, you don't need to write your own function. Behold: std::remove_if Note: std::remove_if Removes all elements satisfying specific criteria f...

4th answer, 5 minutes after posting
22:01
@JeroenVannevel that is some fast typing
3 out of his 4 highest answers are within 5 minutes of posting and each time the questioner got banned
As the site becomes more popular, us mods should continue to look for suspicious activity. We hardly get such issues on this site, but they can still happen at any time.
Alright, close it up. Case solved
@JeroenVannevel hobo riddle?
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A: Solving the Lazy Hobo Riddle

EngieOPNotice how the square of a number 15 or greater exceeds 200? What you can do, is set the interval from 1 to 14. There is no advantage in evaluating the same combination over and over again. Realize that the most efficient way is to structure your for loops such that $$ a \leq b \leq c \leq d...

22:02
ok I am really going home now
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A: Simple TakeOut Menu

EngieOPThis would most likely be a nightmare to most C++ programmers. Your code contains nested switch statements, no functions, magic numbers, etc. It is very hard to read your code. You should have at at least four functions here. One to take the customer's pizza order, another to take the side orde...

3 minutes after posting
Let's have a moment of silence for @Malachi's rep.
5
4 out of 5 highest answers are cheated so far
How did we never notice this..
@Phrancis Let's have a bunch of stars for @Malachi's rep.
@JeroenVannevel I'm sensing a new SEDE query in a not so distant future.
For the record, one of the complications in this particular case, is that normally sock accounts are outright destroyed, but, because of the way this one was done, the questions and answers that were related to those accounts need to be preserved.
there is no nice solution here... it's a mess.
22:04
@rolfl You make the mess, you a moderator cleans it up.
@rolfl Well, the questions by themselves might have been okay. And all answers except his as well. Can you destroy the accounts, remove the rep from his account and preserve it for others?
At this point it is out of our hands, the devs do the clean up.
A SEDE query for "number of characters written per minute" or something could be a slight indication of this
TTQW
From what I have heard, the cleanup can take days.
You can perhaps expect to see rep adjustments in some other scripts that run later.
This is, unfortunately, not over.
22:06
It seems curious that he only received a 7 day ban though
probably that's no over either
Systematic abuse that causes this much trouble..
@rolfl meaning?
Gaming the system like this is totally unnecessary, it isn't that hard to get reputation around here...
As a general observation, as moderators we will be more diligent about monitoring things, and, feel free to raise concerns if you see things suspicious
22:07
@JeroenVannevel it's a start at least. And we don't know what happens after those 7 days.
@janos Just that not all the fixes are in yet, I don't believe
Hopefully, Engine realizes the mistakes and completely changes.
or improves his method
7 days is the standard first-time suspension for voting irregularities.
I suspect that the eventual privilege requirement adjustments could play a role in pressuring some people to get more rep.
22:08
@rolfl It's been 27 chat messages since anything was starred in chat. That's suspicious.
lol
3
chat stars invalidated
the shock?
whew, I thought lol-autostar failed ;-)
I looked at his first 15 highest rated answers. 13 of them were cheated with. Geezes.
22:10
Doesn't he know that Selfies are OK?
@rolfl @Jamal Were any other regulars under suspicion for voting irregularities?
Just wondering since my question had one of his 15 highest rated answers.
@syb0rg No.
Time for movies in bed, I did my duty for today
night
Cheers @Jeroen
@JeroenVannevel Good work, Detective.
22:14
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@Phrancis Turns out that wasn't @Malachi's rep. It was Engie's.
ttgtb
see you tomorrow
Night @janos
BTW.Normal: I think I met this guy on the train today:
Ostemar, Uddevalla, Sweden
101 1
I heard him talk about programming, and so I started talking with him. I was surprised he had heard about Code Review. Not many people have.
Now I just hope he'll drop by and post a question or an answer some time.
BTW.Normal again, @Mat'sMug, is it somehow possible to do client-side web development using C#?
BTW.Normal #3: TTGTB
Night @Simon
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A: Solving the Lazy Hobo Riddle

EngieOPNotice how the square of a number 15 or greater exceeds 200? What you can do, is set the interval from 1 to 14. There is no advantage in evaluating the same combination over and over again. Realize that the most efficient way is to structure your for loops such that $$ a \leq b \leq c \leq d...

23 mins ago, by Jeroen Vannevel
47
A: Solving the Lazy Hobo Riddle

EngieOPNotice how the square of a number 15 or greater exceeds 200? What you can do, is set the interval from 1 to 14. There is no advantage in evaluating the same combination over and over again. Realize that the most efficient way is to structure your for loops such that $$ a \leq b \leq c \leq d...

22:30
leaderboards get updated in ~90mins, right?
not certain about that.
sometime, yes.
ok. well, everyone (except janos) can expect to go up one spot
i think
I mention it whenever it pops up. Plus, this is tagged beginner. It's always good to stop a bad habit before it develops. — EngieOP Oct 13 at 21:24
Put in context, comments like that now seem.... odd.
@rolfl this one especially
What is counter doing? — EngieOP Oct 9 at 6:10
I was counting the iterations. — user54410 Oct 9 at 6:10
22:35
nothing
I can trigger a post-vote refresh.... so, things like:
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A: Copying one array to the end of another array

EngieOP The first for loop is unnecessary. You can use a while loop instead. while(first != last) *(--toLast) = *(--last); Consider using a range-based for loop (C++11 only) for outputting values. for(auto i : toArray) std::cout << i << " "; Your program can be simplified using std::vectors, ite...

become
4
A: Copying one array to the end of another array

EngieOP The first for loop is unnecessary. You can use a while loop instead. while(first != last) *(--toLast) = *(--last); Consider using a range-based for loop (C++11 only) for outputting values. for(auto i : toArray) std::cout << i << " "; Your program can be simplified using std::vectors, ite...

There
Yup. The Lazy Hobo answer went from 47 to 36.
looks like engie's accounts were voting a fair bit on community ads, as well
Interesting... oh.
I just watched an answer go from 10 to 4 in front of my eyes.
22:50
Yup, @RubberDuck - seen this one? codereview.stackexchange.com/a/65146/31503
go to that answer, then.....
upvote it, and then remove your upvote.
I guess the system re-computes the post score only on change.... (and in an overnight script).
You don't have to upvote, you can just view the vote count.
It has given me a reason to visit pretty much all his posts, and re-read a bunch of answers i would not normally have read.
So, in the process, a bunch of people are getting eyes-on, so that may help offset the losses a little bit.
It's not the rep that bothers me (although I feel bad for people who lost rep).
It's that anyone ever felt the need to do it.
I mean, I've been here six months and earned almost 8k rep.
More actually. I've given out a number of bounties. It's not hard to gain rep here. Questions stay on the front page long enough to get eyes on.
I almost feel like we're doing something wrong if someone felt it necessary to vote fraud. I can see it on SO, but here?
23:08
Well, what a day. Sorry all to those people with damaged rep scores today.
Next time (and I assume that as Code Review grows, there will be a next time) I hope it does not get that far along that the impact is this significant
Again, there are automated systems in place to detect irregularities, but, if you happen to see things that are odd, then feel free to flag for mod attention.
yo @Mat'sMug what do you think? i.imgur.com/EUxbftQ.png
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Q: Sending messages to methods defined inside AppDelegate from a block causes EXEC_BAD_ACCESS

user56499To address backwards compatibility for UIAlertView I have come up with an Interface that would seem to work for both iOS versions 8 and lower. In addition to that I have few classes that is responsible for managing an idle timer once the app has been launched. Upon completion of ~30 minutes of i...

23:33
@mjolka better! :)
thanks :)
turns out wpf has a blur effect! which is good, because my attempts to do things manually were a disaster
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Q: Cola Machine #1

ChantolaI have been working on the code listed here. I am working on Problem #2, 0 stars. Here's what I have to do: Write a program that presents the user w/ a choice of your 5 favorite beverages (Coke, Water, Sprite, ... , Whatever). Then allow the user to choose a beverage by entering a number 1-...

i think i'll just edit it into the other answer after all
23:55
Hey guys. Am I missing something important here?
I'm not sure why this was closed as hypothetical. The .Net portion looks like legit (but perhaps sanitized) code. I would personally like to see the full method declaration included though. It helps to understand what arguments a method takes in — RubberDuck 3 mins ago

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