The 2nd Monitor

Hosch250

9:00 PM

@Vogel612 OK, I know it was correct, but I felt it changed your answer too much to not notify you about.

I guess I should have approved it and pinged you.

Anyone here use a VM?

rolfl

Often, but not the way you think.....

Way to go, oracle: search.oracle.com/search/…

You include a dictionary as part of your example dataset.

Thus, every single bloody search with any reaosnable word, will find it.

Duga

[StackExchange/StackExchange.DataExplorer] tms created pull request #62: Move index inside loop to avoid overcounting to merge tms/StackExchange.DataExplorer/improper-indexing into [StackExchange/StackExchange.DataExplorer/master](ht...

Hosch250

What?

Duga

tps://github.com/StackExchange/StackExchange.DataExplorer/tree/master)

rolfl

Duga

9:03 PM

[StackExchange/StackExchange.DataExplorer] gdalgas merged pull request #62: Move index inside loop to avoid overcounting from tms/StackExchange.DataExplorer/improper-indexing into [StackExchange/StackExchange.DataExplorer/master]...

(github.com/StackExchange/StackExchange.DataExplorer/tree/master)

Hosch250

Are you talking to me?

What does this have to do with a virtual machine?

Feeds

rolfl has stopped a feed from being posted into this room

Legato

With java, is it possible to change the value in an array using for each? What I tried didn't stick, was just wondering before just using iteration.

Feeds

rolfl has made a change to the feeds posted into this room

janos

@Legato, no you have to use a counting loop to do that

@Hosch250 what's your question about VMs ?

Legato

9:06 PM

Thanks @janos thought as much just double checking.

Hosch250

I want to know which VM to download to run Win10 Preview on.

I know VMWare is popular: my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads

janos

that's more of a Windows question than about VMs

Hosch250

Oh, but I thought there were many VM's that could do this?

Stack Exchange

Blog - Stack Exchange: Andreessen Horowitz Invests in Stack Exchange

Joel Spolsky on January 20, 2015

(Note: This is a cross post from Joel on Software).

Stack Exchange Raises $40m

Today Stack Exchange is pleased to announce that we have raised $40 million, mostly from Andreessen Horowitz.

Everybody wants to know what we’re going to do with all that money. First of all, of course we’re going to gold-plate the Aeron chairs in the office. Then we’re going to upgrade the game room, and we’re already sending lox platters to our highest-rep users.

But I’ll get into that in a minute. First, let me catch everyone up on what’s happening at Stack Exchange. …

Blog - Stack Exchange: Podcast #62 – Delete This Whole Episode

Abby T. Miller on February 04, 2015

Welcome to Stack Exchange Podcast #62, recorded live on January 20th–with a live studio audience (kinda)!. Today’s podcast was brought to you by the American Venture Capital Association. With you today are our hosts Jay Hanlon, David Fullerton, and Joel Spolsky.

Let’s jump right in: we made a big announcement! Andreessen Horowitz has invested a pile of money in our little company so we can improve our ‘programmer forums’. Precisely none of the pile of money is going into Jay’s raise, but one of those dollars is going to SomeKittens. …

Hosch250

And most could run on Windows?

rolfl

9:09 PM

That's the feed I wanted.

23 mins ago, by skiwi

@rolfl Maybe @Duga can post them

@skiwi ^^^ feeds adjusted...

janos

These are VMWare images, so they should work in any VMWare on any platform

Not sure if other virtualization software can run VMWare images

Hosch250

I'm not getting it.

rolfl

I know that Win10 has been seen running on quemu-kvm ....

Hosch250

I know a lot of people run it on VM.s

blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2014/10/…

Apparently you have to buy it.

janos

I stopped using VMWare when they started charging for it

these days I use VirtualBox

Hosch250

9:14 PM

OK.

skiwi

VMWare is still free, right?

Hosch250

Parts of it, it looks like.

Simon André Forsberg

@Donald.McLean wrestling? I might be nuts but I am not that nuts!

Hosch250

9:29 PM

I watched a bit of soccer last night.

The game was almost done and the players could hardly walk.

And when the ball was kicked off into the field by the goalie, and the players would jump and head it, the force of the ball hitting them would knock over piles of players.

It looked about as bad as football without helmets.

nhgrif

Soccer is nothing.

Watch rugby.

Hosch250

That sounds interesting.

nhgrif

Rugby is American football without pads.

Hosch250

Lovely.

I think polo sounds interesting.

My family says it is too dangerous.

They won't even watch it.

Donald.McLean

@SimonAndréForsberg You said you were watching WWE.

nhgrif

9:38 PM

There are 66 people on Careers within 50 miles of my city. That's before applying any filter like sql, ios, .net

bazola

hey @nhgrif. not sure if you would be curious to know that when I profiled my app on an actual device, the hungry method is taking 60% of the execution time vs only 3% in the simulator

nhgrif

That feels like not that many.

Yea, the simulator uses the full force of your Mac's processor... and Macs have pretty good processors...

Memory issues have an even bigger discrepency though.

If I put ios in, for within 50 miles of my city... there are only 4 candidates, but one of them is SO top 10% for ios...

But someone with a job-seeker profile, they're not necessarily seeking a job... are they?

13 candidates for .net, one is SO top 10%, one is SO top 30%.

Simon André Forsberg

@Donald.McLean yeah yeah, just make fun of my keyboard ;)

Donald.McLean

Well, there's this thing called the "delete key".

RubberDuck

@Donald.McLean That's my favorite key. It usually means I'm getting rid of smelly code.

Hosch250

9:43 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg You should write a script to catch the w's.

nhgrif

22 candidates for sql, two are top 10% on SO. One of them is almost definitely the same user as the top 10% .net user, given it's the same city and it's an extraordinarily small city...

Hosch250

What is their profile name?

Can't you tell from that?

nhgrif

Oh yea, same user #

It's $1000 for one month, $3000 for 6 months, and $5000 for a year.

Of Candidate Search.

Simon André Forsberg

@Donald.McLean after writing too many w's too often, I got sick of that button.

nhgrif

For what it's worth, I'm well within 50 miles of the Wal-Mart corporate offices (which is also where all of their programmers and SQL people are basically)

RubberDuck

9:47 PM

Okay. Hold up. Can someone please tell me what's more complicated about my code here?

Hello @RubberDuck Thank you very much for the code. I am going to test it and let you know if it worked. It looks a bit complicated, so have to do a good check. Sincerely, Richard — RHBerendsen 3 mins ago

Captain Obvious

-1

Q: Free Fall C++ Code Not Working Any Suggestions

I Need a little bit of help on a homework problem I have for my intro to programming class while working on my mechanical engineering degree. Ive never played with C++ before or any computer related programming things. I am completely 100 percent lost and don't seem to understand anything when it...

0

Q: paint fill function

Implement the "paint fill" function of image editing programs: Given a screen point and new color fill the surrounding area. Any comments on the code below? Time complexity: O(N^2) Space complezity: O(N^2) static int N = 6; static boolean[][] colored = new boolean[N+2][N+2]; static...

java algorithm recursion

0

Q: Strange behaviour in AsyncTask with occasional/random connection timeouts/errors, possible context leaks?

I'm new at Android and Java development, but not to object oriented programming in general. I've put together a demo app to start learning. It is made of: a main activity extending ActionBarActivity, in which a ViewPager is instantiated which has a FragmentPagerAdapter responsible for showin...

java android memory-management

Hosch250

@RubberDuck Probably that it is more advanced than he is.

RubberDuck

> I considered myself a talented developer, and was considered to be very highly skilled by my employers. Upon reflection, it is now clear to me that I was a terrible developer.

programmers.blogoverflow.com/2013/07/tools-are-not-skills ^

nhgrif

"Full Stack Developer" seems like a pretty fancy phrase for what it seems to actually imply...

Duga

If you have working code you think could be improved, see CodeReview.stackexchange.com. If you have non-working code, provide a minimal example. Either way, you need to show some code; we won't just write your GCSE coursework for you. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago

nhgrif

9:57 PM

Or maybe I just work at a small company where it's rare that more than one person knows what the hell is going on...

Duga

Please don't post this question as-is to CodeReview. Step 1: Write some code. — nhgrif 18 secs ago

nhgrif

Maybe @Duga could ignore posting comments that are made by people in chat?

Hosch250

Ping @SimonAndréForsberg with that ^^

Duga

From some experience on Code Review I can say: The number of lines says nothing about the quality of the code! — Simon André Forsberg 22 secs ago

Simon André Forsberg

@nhgrif sometimes I just wish @Duga could decide things on her own...

nhgrif

10:03 PM

So... regardless of what sort of decisions my company makes in regards to hiring, since I will be considered our best programmer after my boss is gone, I will 100% be involved in the hiring process (or... if I'm not, I should probably find another job)... but I have no clue how to be on that side of an interview.

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Maybe a possibility would be to ignore if a user has an account on CR with rep > x? Could be done with caching

RubberDuck

> * How to constructively review other people’s code. Code reviews can send a shiver down the spine of the most experienced programmer. They can be harrowing, aggravating and an ultimate waste of time. They can also be a delight, an opportunity to learn from others and to improve your skills! The most important aspect of code reviews is not what technical details you are looking out for, but the attitude and expectations that people approach the review with. If you’re dying to bag out someone’s code and make them feel bad, if you’re on the witch-hunt to see how many bugs you can find, then …

2

nhgrif

I've only interviewed for two programming positions... and one of them was barely an interview at all.

Donald.McLean

@RubberDuck I've been the victim of a witch-hunt code review. Not here - the internet barely existed at that time.

RubberDuck

@Donald.McLean Ya know, I mention naming all of the time here. I don't do it at work. I just silently fix it.... One too many bruised egos all because naming is hard...

SirPython

10:13 PM

Is there any where in the help center where it says you shouldn't answer questions in a comment?

nhgrif

I know one way to find out if there is @SirPython

Hosch250

I don't know, but I was told not to by 200_success once.

SirPython

@nhgrif How is that?

Hosch250

Read it.

SirPython

I have been. I couldn't find it anywhere.

mariosangiorgio

10:14 PM

@SirPython isn't it a general guideline on Stack Exchange?

SirPython

I thought it was, but I'm in a disagreement with someone and I need solid evidence.

Donald.McLean

@RubberDuck I don't have anyone at work to review my code.

nhgrif

There's rarely solid evidence when it comes to unspoken Internet community rules...

mariosangiorgio

@Donald.McLean post it here then :)

nhgrif

Posting work code online is probably not a good way to keep your job.

Donald.McLean

10:17 PM

@nhgrif Well, there might have been times when that was true, but mostly not (at the moment).

nhgrif

Hmm. You work for NASA or something, right?

Telescope stuff.

Donald.McLean

@nhgrif stsci.edu

mariosangiorgio

yeah, mine was half a joke

nhgrif

@Donald.McLean Is that a public institution?

Donald.McLean

@nhgrif We're a non-profit, operating mostly under NASA contract.

nhgrif

10:20 PM

But a private institution?

Donald.McLean

@nhgrif I'm not sure what you mean.

nhgrif

I wonder.... is code written by and owned by public institutions subject to FOIA?

Donald.McLean

@nhgrif I wouldn't be surprised - unless it's classified.

nhgrif

NASA is a public institution. It is owned by the United States Government. Boeing is a privately held institution that happens to fulfill a lot of government contracts.

Donald.McLean

@nhgrif I see what you mean. Yes, we're a private institution, a division of aura-astronomy.org

nhgrif

10:23 PM

Hmm... I want to ask that FOIA on a SE site... but I don't know where it would be appropriate.

Donald.McLean

Copyright status of work by the U. S. government

A work of the United States government, as defined by the United States copyright law, is "a work prepared by an officer or employee" of the federal government "as part of that person's official duties.". In general, under section 105 of the Copyright Act, such works are not entitled to domestic copyright protection under U. S. law. This act only applies to U. S. domestic copyright as that is the extent of U. S. federal law. The U. S. government asserts that it can still hold the copyright to those works in other countries. In addition, many publications of the U. S. government contain protectable...

nhgrif

Copyright law and FOIA aren't quite the same thing.

The gist of my skimming that article suggests that any code written by and owned by the USGov wouldn't be copyrighted.

But not being copyrighted and being available for public perusal are two different things.

Donald.McLean

I doubt you would get the FAA to cough up their air traffic control system code.

Doorknob

@skiwi Are you the main contributor to the bot that watches for mentions of CR on SO and posts them in chat?

nhgrif

I think I'll ask on Politics perhaps.

Hosch250

10:30 PM

@Doorknob No, that is @SimonAndréForsberg

200_success

Wanna Build a Rocket? NASA’s About to Give Away a Mountain of Its Code — Wired Magazine

nhgrif

That's a cool article. I'm going to include a link to that in my question because it's relavent but still wouldn't quite answer the question.

200_success

Code developed by a contractor would probably have different status.

SirPython

If anyone has the time, could you lend a hand over at a question of mine: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/79389/fizzbuzz-challenge I tried answering it myself, but it's not a very good answer.

nhgrif

Well, I assume the contractor would hold a copyright, certainly

But if you're providing something to the United States Government, you have to comply to certain things.

And if government written code is subject to FOIA, then code they contracted out almost certainly would as well.

Simon André Forsberg

10:37 PM

@Doorknob hey there

Hosch250

@Doorknob is a mod at PPCG.

Simon André Forsberg

@Doorknob @skiwi just started the project, but he has practically not done anything on it since I started hosting it on my machine. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't for @skiwi though, he laid the foundation.

@Hosch250 I am aware.

SirPython

And one of the most active members on Vi and Vim

Doorknob

@SimonAndréForsberg Hey, just wondering if it'd be possible to set up another hook for the bot, since I noticed you added one for Programmers. Would that be possible?

Simon André Forsberg

@SirPython that I was not aware about

Duga

10:39 PM

That code doesn't work, so this is certainly not read for CodeReview. Your question is much too vague for StackOverflow. I suggest you find a Python tutorial to work through, and read the style guide. If you're wondering if another part of the datetime module could be used, RTFM. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago

SirPython

I was looking at the stats yesterday - atleast that's what I think they said.

Simon André Forsberg

@Doorknob shouldn't be too hard I guess. What hook do you have in mind?

rolfl

@Simon - the price of success.

@Duga Well said, jon.

nhgrif

Could @Duga be programmed to automatically upvote a comment if he posts it here and it gets starred here?

Simon André Forsberg

@rolfl apparently...

I hope I won't regret @Duga's new features....

Doorknob

10:40 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Haven't run it by the community yet, but watching for mentions of Programming Puzzles & Code Golf might be useful. (Just wanted to verify that it would be feasible before posting on PPCG meta.)

rolfl

Code-golf suggestions happen often on SO?

nhgrif

0

Q: US Government software and the Freedom of Information Act

Is code written by the United States Government (its employees, or if for some reason we start electing a Code Czar... then elected officials) subject to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)? Wikipedia suggests that any code written by the United States Government would not be copyrighted. Wir...

united-states copyright

Simon André Forsberg

@Doorknob Do you get a lot of posts from Stack Overflow? Have you ever seen your site being suggested in a comment?

Hosch250

We did this here because we kept getting bad posts sent here by misinformed SO users.

SirPython

How many votes does it take until a question is closed?

Phrancis

10:42 PM

5

Hosch250

@SirPython 5

SirPython

Thanks.

Phrancis

(mods can override that, of course)

Doorknob

@SimonAndréForsberg Yes, I've had to reprimand a few people for suggesting to post bad questions on PPCG instead. (The only way I've been able to find out about those though were users actually reposting them, so an automated watching thingy would be useful.)

Simon André Forsberg

@nhgrif I think that should be possible, perhaps something I might want to talk with @Vogel612 about. Vogel and @Unihedro are working on a more interactive bot that listens in chat, which I might re-use some code for. If they could implement some trigger for wwhen a message gets starred, and I wwould use that code, then yes. At the moment.... it would take some wwork for me - annd I am laso not sure if it's worth it.

Doorknob

10:43 PM

(I'd post a few examples, but there's no feature for searching comments.)

Simon André Forsberg

@Doorknob data.stackexchange.com

nhgrif

wwhat's wwrong wwith your www key?

Simon André Forsberg

@nhgrif EWWWWERYTHING!

Doorknob

@SimonAndréForsberg Ah, right. Just a second...

200_success

@Doorknob data.stackexchange.com/codegolf/query/221905/comment-search

SirPython

10:45 PM

Apparently "Moderators" is the least active/popular non-meta site.

Simon André Forsberg

@nhgrif on further thought, listening for starred messages and auto-upvoting a comment is not worth it, I believe.

nhgrif

@SimonAndréForsberg My other suggestion was for @Duga to not post comments made by someone who is in that chat.

Doorknob

@SirPython It's Community Building now.

Simon André Forsberg

@nhgrif that should be more feasable. I'll have to tell @Duga the user names / ids though, it's not smart enough to figure that out on its own.

SirPython

And CR is the most popular site that has not had a "makeover"

Doorknob

10:47 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Here's an example:

@lostsock Programming Puzzles & Code Golf is for programming contests / challenges, not for questions about programming. I suggest you read our Help Center article about what's on topic. — Doorknob Sep 22 '14 at 2:54

Most of the other ones are deleted now I suppose.

Simon André Forsberg

@Doorknob Honestly, I'm not sure if you folks get enough comments for it to be worth a trigger. I mean... people could mention gardening and I could give them a heads-up about it, but I doubt that will be very useful. The fact that PPCG is also CR's mortal enemies ~~might also be related~~ has nothing to do with this.

7

Doorknob

@SimonAndréForsberg Alright, seems reasonable. (Except for the fact that PPCG is clearly a far superior site to CR.) Thanks!

I mean, uhhh... what? Did I say something?

200_success

11:10 PM

43

Q: How should I handle questions which are answered in the comments?

Sometimes I have asked a question which got no answers, but is answered in the comments to the question. How should I handle these questions? I can't accept an answer, so it is never an accepted question. For example this one: Menu button can only be clicked one time (ok here the answer in the...

discussion questions answers-as-comments

3

Problems with answers that are disguised as comments include: inability to upvote/downvote, discouraging others from answering, encouraging the OP to change the question, and zombification.

Also, comment threads can get nasty when other users comment on comments.

Example:

no need to return the pointer of array in this example unless you want to free the memory in main rather than in function itself. — MORTAL 3 hours ago

I can see that if I remove return myArray; the program remains the same. I don't quite understand why I don't need a return in that function. — cp177 3 hours ago

@MORTAL What is your logic behind always zeroing out allocated memory? As advice, it's really context dependent -i.e. depends on what you are going to use the memory for. It can also lead to a false sense of security - for example if you are going to use it to hold a struct which contains pointers. NULL is not guaranteed to be represented in memory the same way as (char)((int)0) (which is what gets stored by memset(myArray, 0, size)) — kdopen 2 hours ago

struct is different stroy if it has pointers. but when you used buildin type like 'int'and 'char' you can initialize it by memset as i said or even better if you used calloc it done all in single call. here demo example ideone.com/RyHLdE — MORTAL 44 mins ago

And if you are on a machine which uses a sign+magnitude representation for int? Then (int) 0 might have a totally different representation in memory to '\0' — kdopen 24 mins ago

@kdopen .. thanks i fixed it. — MORTAL 19 mins ago

Duga

If your code works but you want to improve how it is written, you should post it to codereview.stackexchange.com — Mr E 1 min ago

200_success

I'm going to nuke that whole thread.

bazola

@Duga there sure are a lot of these every day!

Vogel612

@SimonAndréForsberg this feature sounds like it could be more trouble than it's worth.

You'd have to have duga look at what messages she posted and compare these with the starring events that happen.

I don't know how exactly tha starring thing works... but I have an idea... you probably won't like it though and with the current state of javabot that's not anywhere near implementable.

You'd have to wait for JCE... that's uni's thing though

Duga

Once you fix that, though, we'd be glad to have you ask a question on Code Review. — 200_success 54 secs ago

Vogel612

11:25 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg the first part of your reasoning smells like a design flaw to me...

SirPython

@200_success Thanks.

nhgrif

"The cemeteries of the world are full of indispensable men." — Laconic Droid 4 hours ago

Simon André Forsberg

@Vogel612 exactly wwhat I also concluded.

Hosch250

Incoming question.

Simon André Forsberg

@Vogel612 design flaw? I mean... adding new triggers isn't complicated, and I could make an abstraction of the functionality. I'm just not sure if it is worth it.

Captain Obvious

11:39 PM

0

Q: Unit Testing Search and Sort method(s)

I just decided to write a unit test, and see how to do it. This is my unit test: [TestMethod] public void TestSearchSort() { System.IO.File.WriteAllText(@"C:\Users\Hosch250\Documents\Visual Studio 2013\Projects\ConsoleApplication14\ConsoleApplication14\TestFile.cs", string.Empty); va...

c# unit-testing

Vogel612

Point taken ....

RubberDuck

@SimonAndréForsberg what's it like to have users? =;)-

Hosch250

@RubberDuck Ask me that.

I have users - 72 Windows Phone users and 6618 Windows Store users.

People from around the world too.

mjolka

@Hosch250 can you share what the app is?

Hosch250

Learn OneNote.

It is all about the Windows Store and Phone OneNote's.

Mehrad

11:50 PM

I love OneNote

Hosch250

I am adding OneNote 2013 now, and I will need to completely re-write the Windows Store and Phone OneNote's when Win 10 comes out.

Mehrad

@mjolka if there is an issue with VS that is not discussed in the net, is there a way to report it and seek help?

Hosch250

I do too. I want to cover the whole Office suite, but that would be at least a full time job.

You could ask a question at the MS forums.

Mehrad

hands up if you think MS forums are crap :D

Hosch250

I used to be part of the Windows/Office/... forums.

Mehrad

11:52 PM

Oops :D

Hosch250

The MS Support Engineers are terrible - never providing any help.

mjolka

@Mehrad i only know the msdn forums, like Hosch250 mentioned

Hosch250

I am actually still a Wiki Author.

Simon André Forsberg

@RubberDuck It is nice to make things that are actually used.

Hosch250

I meant there, but I was not really part of them.

Give you the link.

I had a couple participation badges that expired because I stopped.

Captain Obvious

11:54 PM

0

Q: Report frequency of usage of each character

Method to report number of occurrences for characters in a string. It works perfectly well for alphanumeric characters but not for symbols such as "$" and others.... Can anyone help me out please :) public static void reportFrequencyUsage(String text){ String temp = text; String usedSymb...

java beginner strings

mjolka

@Hosch250 i found your app on the app store, why did you decide to make it free?

Hosch250

Because my parents want me too.

But, once OneNote 2013 is done, it will be slightly different.

I am planning on either adding ads, or allowing the one section (Windows Store if running Windows Store app, Windows Phone if running Windows Phone app) accessible, and require payment for the rest.

Maybe $1.99 each?

Mehrad

@Hosch250 there is no VS category when asking questions ? am I missing sumething ?

Hosch250

answers.microsoft.com/en-us/profile/…

That is my profile.

Mehrad

@mjolka make it 99.1 :D

Hosch250

11:56 PM

Let me find the right place at MSDN.

Bug report: connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio