@Shog9 @snailboat (I don't know if you've seen my request about resigning from the room owner) I think you've solved the issue well enough, but in my opinion the issue hasn't really been solved, the undercurrent is still there, until people get what they really want. And I know that seeing me be punished is a good idea. I just want to be here on SE to analyze English. I'm more than happy to do it in another room, so everyone can use the main room in peace. (And I can do my thing peacefully.)

Please consider it.

Good night!

It wasn't about you, really! So don't worry. :-)

@DamkerngT. I didn't think it was, but still don't think you should resign. Just saying

@Shog9 @snailboat (If you trust me that I should know the dynamic of the room, I can say that I know more than what you think I probably know, and probably too deeply. I don't know if you will believe me if I said that I had seen this coming since 10-11 months ago, but I'd had my hope in people, and obviously that was a wrong decision.)

@Araucaria Thanks for the nice words! I'm a bit tired now, and have to retire to my bed.

Good night!

And happy hunting (the chat log)!

Night

Thanks :)

@DamkerngT. to be clear, I'm not asking you to punish anyone. Just put out fires before folks get burned.

But whether you want to be in that role is your call; if you'd rather not, you can step down without leaving the room.

@Araucaria By the way, I know that when I analyze things, it's unavoidable to refer to people or their posts, but I always do it objectively. (So please don't take it the wrong way when you see your name in my messages. ;-)

@Shog9 I refer to myself being punished, not others. And yes, I want to step down.

(In a way, I know that if the mods chose to punish me, the undercurrent would be relieved.)

@DamkerngT. ah. Well, I don't wish for that either. As I said, your call

@Shog9 Thanks! I didn't know that I could do that!

@DamkerngT. like I said, room owner == room mod ;-)

Okay, well, I should go now. Good night!

@DamkerngT. Oh no probs. My posts are there to be discussed/dissected etc they're all fair game ... :) Night

@DamkerngT. Aaargh. Oh well. G'night

I sense drama here @Shog9, LOL.

@DamkerngT. Long time no see, good night.

@JasperLoy eh, it's nothing. English folk, y'know?

@Shog9 I roughly know what happened, because someone was talking about what happened here in another room, LOL and being a busybody I came here to look LOL

tsk

By the way, there was lots of drama in the math room just now, LOL, but no flags.

@Shog9 Yes, but I ain't doing that exactly. =)

@Shog9 Anyway, bye. Take care.

'later

Beware the wrath of Jim Reynolds: english.stackexchange.com/questions/239232/…

ELL status: 15,114 questions

(and that's going to be my last ELL status log)

@JasperLoy Long time no see indeed. How are things going on in your life and everything? I hope they're going well!

@DamkerngT. Going badly, still struggling with OCD and PTSD and still not working, still taking medication.

Oh, no!

@DamkerngT. I will need to do some very courageous and embarrassing things to get well, sometime later this year, so I hope I succeed, pray for me. =)

nods -- I hope medication helps.

I hope all the best for you!

I also got into various conflicts with various people in some other rooms, LOL.

@DamkerngT. You are no longer room owner here?

I guess conflicts are part of chat rooms now. I can see that some people usually think of chat as "fight".

@JasperLoy That's correct.

Hullo!

I've never asked to be one. So, in a way it was a burden for me.

@DamkerngT. I don't go to ELU room anymore. I just go to Writers room and Math room.

Hallo!

Another Friday for me.

@MARamezani Another weekend for you!

@DamkerngT. You're learning!

We all are!

@JasperLoy May I ask why?

@MARamezani I dislike some conversations there.

@JasperLoy Hmm, why?

@DamkerngT. Or some way to ping and pester a mod.

@MARamezani Well, some people misunderstand me there, that's all, not a big deal.

@DamkerngT. Why?

@MARamezani lol

@JasperLoy Sigh Happens that misunderstandings are the worst part of life.

@MARamezani First, ELL is doing fine, so maybe there is nothing to worry about the site as I thought there perhaps was.

@MARamezani Yes, I got into a few recently...

@JasperLoy We also did.

(Recently)

Second, I'm going to create a new room and move my English usage analysis stuff there, as I told you yesterday.

@MARamezani I think there is no need to bother a moderator, unless it is very serious.

@DamkerngT. Good. For a moment there I thought you were saying goodbye.

@DamkerngT. A room here would be better.

@MARamezani In a way, but it's not a real goodbye. ;-)

@JasperLoy Indeed.

Also, who are moderators, really? Aren't they us?

@JasperLoy Some people are too much acting like kids.

@DamkerngT. The worst thing that happens is that you argue with X, and then X says something that everyone stars, and it makes it seem as if X is correct and you are wrong.

They're us with more responsibilities they have to take care of.

@JasperLoy Nah. People don't star things because of that.

@JasperLoy I know those cynical stars very well. ;-)

It's because they heard something philosophical.

@MARamezani Most people don't do that.

@DamkerngT. Me too. =)

@DamkerngT. Don't do don't star?

O.O

@MARamezani Starring messages cynically.

Take that!

I cynically starred you!

Heh! Not very cynical for me. :D

@DamkerngT. Oh you have no idea....

:D

@DamkerngT. So, tell me more about this room you're gonna create.

It's my usual. One thing I'm happy about this room is that we have more people now!

O.O

I was first here when this room had virtually 0 members.

Don't follow.

@DamkerngT. Maybe I will come here more often. WHo are the regulars?

@DamkerngT. Link please.

Only Shog9 is new here.

@JasperLoy Behold the almighty regs!

@MARamezani I think it was around October or November 2013.

That isn't a link.

@MARamezani o_O -- What kind of link do you want?

@DamkerngT. Link to the room.

When there was no one in the room?

@DamkerngT. Who talks here these days mostly?

@JasperLoy Me,

me,

ME,

me,

and?

me

@JasperLoy I guess about 40% of the room is my stuff.

me.

That's 5 people!

Maybe I will come here and talk from now...

Which is a great improvement from 100%. ;-)

@JasperLoy You're very welcome here!

I need some encouragement for my life problems. Are you guys encouraging people?

@JasperLoy Kinda.

@DamkerngT. So, you won't be here anymore?

I don't know. But if I were in another room, and you needed some help, you knew where to find me.

You could even drag me back. ;-)

By the way, one thing I want to say about "fight".

@DamkerngT. Is humor allowed there?

@MARamezani Of course!

@DamkerngT. YESSSSSS. Phew

It should be pretty much the same as here.

But I will turn people asking for a quick edit, homework help, corrections, etc. back to the main room.

Is this the main room for ELL?

@DamkerngT. Aaah.

(i.e. all the short-term stuff) I'd like to focus on the longer-term stuff (i.e. learning!).

@JasperLoy Yes!

@JasperLoy Yep. But there's a revolution coming this way...

@DamkerngT. OK, I will come here and talk to you from now...

@DamkerngT. You're applying SE rules to a chat. Hureka!

Hahaha!

@JasperLoy Not to me? Sobbing

@MARamezani You too, if you are encouraging.

@MAR Encourage him, quick

@JasperLoy If you're gonna stay here, as I hope,

Pro tip: Never take me seriously, unless I said so.

BTW, I can be very sympathetic you know.

Hey, I starred that! (So people can understand you correctly. :-)

@DamkerngT. Eh. Snailor's gonna come again and make so much sense that message will disappear in the sea of her starred thingies.

:D

@JasperLoy BTW, our regs, ordering from the most messages, are: Dam, Snailor, me, Jimbie, Shooting Star, Stoney, Ben and some others.

@MARamezani OK, not regs in the ELU.

(Which translates to: @DamkerngT., @snailboat, @MARamezani, @JimReynolds, @CopperKettle, @StoneyB, @BenKovitz and etc.)

I think snailboat, Jim Reynolds, StoneyB, and Ben use the ELU room, too, sometimes.

@JasperLoy Only the nicer ELU regs are here, I suppose.

@MARamezani I have not been there for a long time...

@JasperLoy Good for you!

Even I use the ELU room, too. But I know that I can't handle too many chat sessions very well.

Whom pinged me dammit?

@JimReynolds Me.

I pinged you like last year! :P

@JimReynolds

O.O

Hi Robot and MAR.

Oh, you meant more recently. :-)

Hi!

@JimReynolds @JimReynolds

@JimReynolds hULLO!

I saw you asking what I was doing here. But I don't know where I was.

O.0

LOL

@JimReynolds Who or whom?

We are English people. We always say whom.

@JasperLoy Who is correct.

Hi Jasper.

I am!

O.o

Jimbie was imitating formality.

Even my pet owl says, "Whom, whoooom."

@JasperLoy Pro Tip: Never take anything Jimbie says seriously, even if he said so.

@MARamezani Too confusing for me.

@JasperLoy Well, Jim and me are the clowns here.

He means two confusing.

In short.

We don't mock people though.

Dam, you relieved yourself of command!

@MARamezani sigh -- Better not bring that up.