English Language Learners

Catija

00:31

@snailboat I was trying to figure out that whole whose/which... and I was struggling to find a "whichst" or something like that serves the purpose of whose but is based on "which"... I guess the word I was looking for is "whose".

What does @DamkerngT. mean about the answer going network-wide?

Man_From_India

02:27

@snailboat Thanks for viewing those trees. A little help will be greatly appreciated :-)

Jude Niroshan

05:49

hi everybody

Damkerng T.

08:55

@Catija StackExchange regularly picks questions from various stacks and promotes them network-wide as Hot Network Questions (I don't know how exactly SE picks them). Usually, network questions will get more views, and thus more votes.

stackexchange.com/questions?tab=hot

Jude Niroshan

09:07

hi

Damkerng T.

Hi!

Good afternoon! I just dropped in for a bit.

Jude Niroshan

I'm totally bored at office

Damkerng T.

How is your day?

Oh, no!

Jude Niroshan

just tell me some of things which are interesting for you right now?

i mean, some kind of popular strange news

Damkerng T.

I'm browsing new questions on ELL!

Jude Niroshan

09:09

tech stuff

anything

Damkerng T.

For stuff like tech news, I usually use Engadget.

> Segway is now a Chinese company thanks to Ninebot and Xiaomi
http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/15/segway-ninebot-xiaomi-acquisition/

Wow, I just bought a few Xiaomi headphones and one smartphone!

Jude Niroshan

cool

Damkerng T.

So they used my money to buy Segway!

:P

Jude Niroshan

ohww

Jim Reynolds

11:27

@Dam!

MARamezani

@Jim!

Jim Reynolds

Hi MAR!

MARamezani

How's it going?

Jim Reynolds

Peachy.

MARamezani

Just like a normal day, huh?

Jim Reynolds

11:34

Yes, but I have a date with Dam! O.O

A chat date.

Damkerng T.

@JimReynolds I just came back in. Give me a few more minutes.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. How many?

Jim Reynolds

Take your time. I just got home.

MARamezani

Me too.

O.O

This is a conspiracy!

Jim Reynolds

You are welcome to join us, as far as I know, MAR.

It's not that it's a private chat, so much as not a public public chat.

Damkerng T.

11:39

@Jim I can do it now or about an hour later. It's up to you. What do you think?

Jim Reynolds

Later might be better. I can walk dogs, and they can go poo-poo.

Damkerng T.

:D

MARamezani

o.o

Jim Reynolds

O.O

Damkerng T.

Okay, an hour later then!

Jim Reynolds

11:40

ok.

MARamezani

Bye!

For an hour.

Damkerng T.

See ya @MARamezani! :-)

Jim Reynolds

What sup, MAR?

MARamezani

Just came back from school.

No more school for two days.

Jim Reynolds

Is it a holiday or normal schedule?

MARamezani

11:43

Normal schedule. For the zillionth time, Fridays are holidays in Iran.

And, on Thursdays schools are exceptionally off.

Jim Reynolds

Well, first time for me.

MARamezani

@JimReynolds Ya know, I know.

Jim Reynolds

Exceptionally off. Occasionally?

MARamezani

I should be writing in my profile pic:

> Fridays are off in Iran!

@JimReynolds When there is school, there's no school on Thursdays.

Jim Reynolds

Some people use holiday like US uses weekend.

I guess UK says holiday for Sat and Sun / normal weekly days off.

MARamezani

11:45

@JimReynolds I = some people

Jim Reynolds

When there is school . . . they's no . . . WHAT?

So, if there is no school, then there is school on Thursdays?

O.O

You make no sense, boy.

MARamezani

Mission accomplished.

Jim Reynolds

May I suggest that you consider switching to US English? It's far superior.

Consider if you need to refuel your camel, for example.

Would you rather say the long word petrol, or simply gas?

MARamezani

Petrol.

Jim Reynolds

Why you . . . o.o

Damkerng T.

12:40

:D

MARamezani

Hullo @Man @Fantasier! And welcome back @Dam.

Damkerng T.

I'm back!

MARamezani

Oh no!

It's phuunny how a guy in the world thinks this is a technical question:

> why printers suck so much?

Ok, here is the point. We are in 2011, and I just wasted 50 pages because I tried to print a PDF and the printer stops after 5 lines, spits out the paper sheet, and continues on the next paper sheet. Clicking "delete" on the printing queue does not do anything. Occasionally, when I send stuff to print, the printer is "not online", while it clearly is. Deleting the printing queue and then resubmitting magically works.

Now, I am not asking why these things happen and how can I solve them. What I am asking is a technical reason behind the fact that in 2011 printe…

Damkerng T.

:D

MARamezani

When I saw this first,

-29

Q: Where should I ask difficult, technical questions?

I ask this because I am really annoyed by the behavior on superuser. I am a guy with questions, and I love technical details. If I have a problem I want not only to solve my problem, but to understand the underlying details on why the problem happens in the first place. I am curious, and my knowl...

discussion

I thought oh dang! It's another one of those arrogant people who think others know nothing

Phuunny how things turned out.

Jim Reynolds

12:52

Hmm...

Hi @Man and Fan and all.

Dam, where do you want to go, any idea?

MARamezani

@JimReynolds Disneyland.

Jim Reynolds

O.0

Damkerng T.

Dunno, how about a new room?

Jim Reynolds

Try to be more serious, like me.

Oh. how does it work? is it private?

MARamezani

@JimReynolds I'm exploding from seriousness. Can I stop now?

@DamkerngT. Why?

Damkerng T.

12:55

The content is always public, but we can choose who can join the chat.

@MARamezani I think Jim may like it private. :-)

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Aah, the date.

Chuckles

Damkerng T.

Yes! Envy?

:P

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. I'll have what you're having.

Damkerng T.

But I think Jim has already mentioned that you can join us on our date. :P

@MARamezani lol

Man_From_India

Hi @DamkerngT. @MARamezani @JimReynolds...sorry I was on phone :-)

Jim Reynolds

12:56

Hi Man!

Damkerng T.

Good evening @Man_From_India!

Man_From_India

Good evening...I am raining cats and dog today :D

Damkerng T.

I'm glad to hear you're raining well! :P

Man_From_India

ha ha

MARamezani

@JimReynolds BTW, seriously though, why do you wanna open up a different room?

YOU NO LIKE ME? Sobbing and looking cute

Damkerng T.

13:00

@MARamezani petting MAR...

MARamezani

Pats oneself

Man_From_India

@JimReynolds is the new room for man eaters only :D

MARamezani

@Man_From_India Yes. No Mans allowed.

Damkerng T.

wiggling cat food in front of MAR...

Man_From_India

i am happy to be off his plate :D

MARamezani

13:01

@DamkerngT. Purr

Jim Reynolds

Ha! I don't know. I want to mention a few things to Dam that might just be between us, at least for now.

MARamezani

Imitating Dam's cat so that I get to load that library

@JimReynolds Now I'm feeling too nose-poker.

Man_From_India

Jim sounds very serious today :-)

MARamezani

@Man_From_India He feels dative.

Man_From_India

:-/

MARamezani

13:05

Dative is a concept in chemistry.

Man_From_India

ohh i see

MARamezani

Refreshing the site rooms for ELL for 5th time. I have to see their conversation!

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani lol

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Is the room created yet?

Damkerng T.

:-)

Man_From_India

13:07

Yes @MARamezani i am already in :-)

MARamezani

NOOOOOO! Feels neglected

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani petting MAR again...

MARamezani

@Man_From_India No you're not. Or maybe you are.... Shivers

Man_From_India

yes i m :-) u can check ;-)

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Thanks! I couldn't reach it. Damn that scratching.

Man_From_India

13:10

Scratching, where? :O

U need FE bum that Dam prescribed for u? :D

MARamezani

@Man_From_India The wall. D'oh.

@Man_From_India I finished eating it an hour ago.

Man_From_India

Oh I see....that bad effect from Jim has rubbed off badly on me.

MARamezani

Where is he, BTW? So much for going on a date.

Damkerng T.

(whispering) Follow the cat food...

Man_From_India

FE or Jim? :D

ha ha Dam :D

user62015

13:13

Hi

I have a question.

I am in hurry.

Damkerng T.

Hi @user62015!

MARamezani

Hullo @user62015!

Man_From_India

hi @user62015

user62015

When do we use 'told' instead of 'said' in the indirect speech?

Damkerng T.

13:30

@user62015 She told me (something). He said (what he said)

Man_From_India

sorry I was offline :-) (I was kicked out :D)

MARamezani

Everyone was kicked out.

Damkerng T.

I think all of us were!

MARamezani

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Q: Chat is currently down

So, I tried to get into chat today only to get a connection timeout. I figured it might be my connection, but isup.me is also saying that chat.stackexchange.com is down: . (Note: I added a freehand circle because those are mandatory on Meta.)

support

Man_From_India

may I share a link? @user62015 you will find details

@DamkerngT. In a nutshell great :-)

MARamezani

13:31

@user62015 you can grasp many things from this: ell.stackexchange.com/search?q=tell+say

Man_From_India

@MARamezani oh that explains why i got a shoe mark on my bum :D

MARamezani

@Man_From_India But they missed. They couldn't kick mine.

Man_From_India

MARamezani

@Man_From_India Oh no, not again. :}

Man_From_India

and this dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/say-or-tell

@MARamezani no no this is not OED :D

Jim Reynolds

13:36

Ah !

Man_From_India

hi jim....

MARamezani

@JimReynolds Ah! You Ah! a lot today.

Is that a symptom of getting serious?

Jim Reynolds

@MAR and @Man_From_India Me and Dam are chatting just a little bit about how we want to enjoy each other chatting in here ...

In a private chatroom on a free chatroom website.

MARamezani

@JimReynolds Where?

Jim Reynolds

Do you want to join us for a minute?

MARamezani

13:40

Yes.

Jim Reynolds

Send me an email, and I can invite you.

Man_From_India

sure...:-)

Jim Reynolds

I mean, give me an email addy

MARamezani

Go kid urslf PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Jim Reynolds

You don't wanna give an email addy?

@Man_From_India you can go to that link.

Man_From_India

13:43

I am 1 there

MARamezani

@JimReynolds Nope. Now go be sad somewhere.

Jim Reynolds

Haha. You got abandoned. And you will hurt for a few days now.

Or years.

Damkerng T.

Hello @fredley!

Damkerng T.

14:50

:D

Man_From_India

I rained back...:D

Damkerng T.

I'm glad to see you rain here!

MARamezani

Me here too.

Man_From_India

is the room too wet? ;-)

Damkerng T.

I think rain is becoming an all-purpose word for us now!

mopping the floor diligently...

Man_From_India

14:52

And OED will consider changing the meaning of "rain" in next edition :D

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

MARamezani

@Man_From_India Aaargh! It's leaking.

Man_From_India

@MARamezani Use umbrella :D

MARamezani

@Man_From_India o.0

Man_From_India

Or if u got cold already use FE blum :D :D

MARamezani

14:53

Is there an umbrella that protects you down?

Damkerng T.

FE blum?

Man_From_India

tiger

:D

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. That delicious delicious thing.

Damkerng T.

Oh!

I was thinking of Federation Era!

Man_From_India

:-/

:D

bye now...see u later :-)

Damkerng T.

15:00

See you!

MARamezani

15:13

Chemistry is phun!

Damkerng T.

Hey, I don't understand the badge stats of our profile look!

> 64/100 score
28/20 answers

What do they mean?

@MARamezani We need 20 people more, and two goals!

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. You haven't seen C2160 yet!

Well, I haven't seen it too.

Damkerng T.

Oh, I thought we were going to play football. Umm... I mean soccer.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Phuunny thing is, soccer is فوتبال in Persian, which is derived (no, copied) from Football

Damkerng T.

It's the same in Thai!

MARamezani

15:19

Hehe

Now I wonder the reason behind this.

Damkerng T.

I think it's because the game was introduced to various parts of the world before the era of Hollywood.

MARamezani

Hmm.

Damkerng T.

Oh, I see. They want us to pump up the number of our answers to get more badges!

So, it's kind of the same cat food, just more obvious.

MARamezani

15:32

Yep. Play around with it a little.

Damkerng T.

I have a confession to make: my cat is a food addict :P

MARamezani

Aaah. Your cat is cuter than your head bubble thingie.

Damkerng T.

Hee... (Argh! I was just kidding. Don't bite me, Hagu!)

@MARamezani Head bubble thingie? My avatar?

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Your head bubble thingie.

Hope this helps

Damkerng T.

o_O

MARamezani

15:41

@DamkerngT. Wait. Your cat can bite a robot with a head bubble thingie?

Damkerng T.

lol

He sure can!

MARamezani

11

Q: New profile pages are out - bugs and feedback master list

Some of you may have noticed that we just launched the new profile and activity pages that we have been talking about for a while now on most Stack Exchange sites. Most? Well, yes, the new design is dependent on a SE network-wide update (a new base css framework) that the design team have been w...

discussion profile-page

Damkerng T.

In case someone missed the new profile page.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Or its feedback request thingie. Good call robot with a head bubble thingie.

Damkerng T.

Hmm... "Sync the width of rep update boxes" -- Is there the limit of the number of upvoted points for a single answer?

MARamezani

15:50

@DamkerngT. Huh?

Damkerng T.

I mean, that post suggest the box width should be the same, +5, +10, +55, +100, or whatever. So I wondered.

Oh, actually, the limit of points isn't really relevant. It's about CSS.

MARamezani

It is. I don't get what Unihedro means there.

Damkerng T.

(I was thinking how we should display a +55555 answer. :-)

I think he meant that the +100 box looks wider than others, and he wished they were all of the same width.

I bookmarked that page. It's a clever way to ask for feedback from users.

MARamezani

Google is your first friend, Wikipedia is the second, and dictionaries and thesaurus's are the third! So, my first internetic friend gives me this: english.stackexchange.com/questions/212060/… — MARamezani 4 mins ago

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani You could've mentioned that SE is your second friend for a question like this! :P

MARamezani

16:02

@DamkerngT. SE is friend 0.

Damkerng T.

LOL!

Ilan

16:27

@DamkerngT.

hi

MARamezani

Hullo Ilan!

Ilan

hi

how are you?

MARamezani

Fine, thanks. You?

Ilan

hm

I am struggling with excel

wanted to ask @DamkerngT. about it

Damkerng T.

Hello, @Ilan!

Ilan

16:30

hi!

I wanted to ask you something basic about excel

Damkerng T.

Ah, it doesn't have to be me. Anyone here can help to, if they'd like.

MARamezani

@Ilan Well there he is. Ask him before Hagu eats him.

Ilan

I cannot move the row

Damkerng T.

Yes?

Eh?

Ilan

the excel ask me "do you want to remove blablabla"

MARamezani

16:31

@Ilan The row's leg is broken.

Ilan

instead of just inserting the row in between

I open my Asus-Windows once in a year

all time going bananas of it :))

Damkerng T.

I haven't used Excel for a while. If you aren't unsure if it's safe to move a row, I think you can copy the row (so you have two rows, one old, one new) and delete the old one.

lol

Ilan

:)

MARamezani

Oh, Dam how dare you not see Jimbie coming in?

Ilan

thanks

I liked it :)

MARamezani

16:33

Maybe he's stalking for prey.

Damkerng T.

Argh! I was too focused on Excel!

Ilan

@DamkerngT. you really helped me

lol

Damkerng T.

My pleasure!

poking at @Jim...

MARamezani

Hmm, even @Catija's been here.

Ping ping ping yeah!

Damkerng T.

Catija was here yesterday, too. Maybe Catija is busy answering something on the main site.

Ilan

16:38

@DamkerngT. unbelievable - I get "the command you chose cannot be performed with multiple selections"

I dont like Windows

:(

lol

Damkerng T.

That's weird.

Can you copy a single cell?

MARamezani

@Ilan Windows doesn't like you too. :P

It told me that.

Ilan

windows does not like anybody

pos

MARamezani

BTW maybe there's something wrong with your PC - It has Damiticized!

Damkerng T.

I googled for you message, Microsoft says, its cause is "By design, the error message appears in Microsoft Excel when you use one of the following commands with a nonadjacent cell range."

Catija

16:40

@MARamezani What's up?

Ilan

@DamkerngT. I can copy-paste single one

MARamezani

@Catija Hullo!

Catija

I'm "here" but I'm not really... :P

MARamezani

@Catija Answering something?

Ilan

@DamkerngT. I chose the row, not cells

:)

Damkerng T.

16:41

@Ilan Was your selected cells is a nonadjacent cell range?

@Ilan That's even more curious!

Catija

@MARamezani Nah. Clearly my answers and comments have been annoying people recently, so I'm a bit miffed.

MARamezani

@Catija What? Why?

Pets Catija

Damkerng T.

@Ilan Does you worksheet has some cells that are larger than other cells? (Like, being merged from two or more cells?)

@Catija Oh, no!

Ilan

@yes

@DamkerngT. yes

Damkerng T.

@Ilan A-ha!

MARamezani

16:43

@Catija BTW your profile pic reminds me of our traditional clay vases.

Ilan

but the row I select is ok

nothing merged

the file has header

where the cells was merged

MARamezani

@Ilan Can I suggest something? Screw Excel! :D

Catija

@MARamezani Not a big deal, just someone taking the fact that I'm replying to their comments by tagging them as a personal affront. Had Mods delete the convo because clearly it was inappropriate.

Damkerng T.

Maybe you need to copy/move more than one rows at once. I mean, select as many rows as needed to cover the height of those larger cells.

MARamezani

@Catija Is it about that conversation about APA?

Catija

16:44

@MARamezani I'll tell my plush hippo you said that.

Ilan

@MARamezani thanks!

MARamezani

@Catija I'm dead!

@Ilan Anytime!

Catija

@MARamezani no, the question about Chinese printer technology.

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A: Why is 'The Chinese have invented the printer' wrong?

We can say the Chinese have invented printing because the Chinese are still inventing (or still might invent). From Grammar for English Language Teachers (Parrott, 2000). Cambridge. pp. 186-187. Chapter on verb tenses for "the past": "Unfinished periods of time We use the present perfect simp...

MARamezani

@Catija Oh, Jimbie.

Good/bad thing I can't see anything.

Did you argue with Jim?

Catija

@MARamezani No, f.e.

MARamezani

16:46

@Catija Were there punches and fists?

Catija

@MARamezani No, just implications that I don't know how to speak English and that my personal preference to avoid the phrasing he/she chose mean that I say it's "wrong"... which I've never said, only said that I don't personally use that phrasing.

MARamezani

So things got serious? That's unphuunny and sad to hear.

What's with people recently?

Damkerng T.

I didn't know what exactly happened, but I think sometimes we forget that there are more than one variants of English.

MARamezani

There are pointless arguments and fights.

Catija

@MARamezani more serious than it warrants.

Damkerng T.

16:51

I guess that an argument might be about what should be used vs. what is possible.

MARamezani

And they happen a lot recently.

@Catija Well, F.E. was a tamed and nice tiger.

What happened to him is beyond me.

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Surely, some alien entities must have deployed some kinds of devices before the coming invasion!

MARamezani

Or what happened to you both.

@DamkerngT. I think Jimbie's now laughing as his plans have sorted out well.

Divide and CONQUER! I mean eat!

MWAHAHAHAHHHA!

Damkerng T.

Yeah It's much easier when we're not united.

Catija

@MARamezani he(?) wasn't mean, just seemed to be regularly mis-reading me and I felt we were talking in circles, getting nowhere.

MARamezani

16:53

That was very clever TXMAHD1425176 known as @JimReynolds on Earth!

@Catija Hmm, so are you a he?

Catija

@MARamezani I am a she.

MARamezani

Aaah! Another Snailor!

Catija

Are most of the people here male?

Damkerng T.

I'm male.

Ilan

@DamkerngT. what is your paypal? I'll send you money

Damkerng T.

16:54

But you can think of me as a cute robot, if you'd like. :-)

MARamezani

@Catija Most regs are, except Snailor.

Ilan

You solved my problem!

MARamezani

And some other people I can't remember.

Damkerng T.

@Ilan Hehe! No need to do that. I'm just glad I can help!

MARamezani

@Ilan Quick! Upvote his posts!

Ilan

16:55

That was great advice

MARamezani

BTW @Catija I myself had a semi-argument today. I was perceived as rude.

Catija

Ah. I see. I think SE tends to attract a lot of men.

MARamezani

I'm sorry, we don't write here to immediately solve the problem, a thought you give for something blury as this, can also be helpful. There is absolutely no need to be rude nor to tell me if my answer was helpful or not, votes are for that purpose. — Ndrina Limani 2 hours ago

@Catija It's not that much.

Sigh

Sigh sigh

Catija

@MARamezani Hmmmm... personally, I appreciate when people explain why they downvote... otherwise, how can I fix my answer?

MARamezani

@Catija EVEN I WASN'T THE DOWNVOTER! Sobbing

Pets and pats and poots oneself

Catija

16:57

Awww, sorry. :(

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani I think she meant, in general. :-)

MARamezani

@Catija BTW, nothing I said is serious.

Unless I say so.

Damkerng T.

@Catija I'm pretty sure @MARamezani is serious.

correction: not serious

:P

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. I'm pretty sure you're serious too.

DEAD SERIOUS!

Damkerng T.

I'm sorry!

MARamezani

16:58

No.

You're robot.

With a head bubble thingie.

Damkerng T.

palming his face... consulting his cat...

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. I'd better run.

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