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12:00 AM
Haha! When have I voted that one up?!
o.o
How should I know if SE is Standard English and not StackExchange? (rhetoric)
 
A rhetoric question shouldn't be noted that it's rhetoric, imho. :-)
 
@DamkerngT. Dunno, some people answer them.
 
People sometimes also say "pun intended".
(or "no pun intended") <-- Sorry! This is what I meant.
 
@DamkerngT. I know. Pun intended or not, decide for yourself (pun intended)
Amazing! The largest fullerene is C2160.
 
Anonymous
I posted another answer:
 
Anonymous
12:07 AM
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A: List of common symbols and abbreviations

snailboatThe following symbols are used in The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language, p. xii: * ungrammatical                *This books is mine. # semantically or pragmatically anomalous    #We frightened the cheese. % grammatical in some dialect(s) only     %He hadn't many friends. ? of qu...

 
Anonymous
Does the chart look okay for everyone? Unfortunately, Stack Exchange is defective and lacks table formatting
 
Oh, on our meta site!
 
You really like Cambridge!
 
Anonymous
Not everything published by CUP is of equal quality
 
Anonymous
You should judge each work on its own merits rather than by association with Cambridge, if possible
 
12:09 AM
I wanna invent a new one: $
(makes an utterance as grammatical if you so)
 
I'm better outta here.
 
Anonymous
Dollar signs sometimes represent a syllable boundary
 
@snailboat I think I've seen them somewhere.
@DamkerngT. NOOO! Why?
 
Feel free to discuss any matter. I'd like to ask for only one thing, please keep all chat messages intact, at least for a while.
 
@DamkerngT. Okay, and with full stops.
 
12:13 AM
@MARamezani My hibernation cycle is shortened down a bit. :-)
 
@DamkerngT. Hmm, how do you save your tasks?
 
@MARamezani I keep them in my tabs. ;-)
 
@DamkerngT. Your tabs in FumbleFinger Fast and Furious?
 
Yeah. Can I go now? Pleassee.
 
You misspelled it. It's PLZZZZZZZ UURGGGEEEENNT THX. Bye! Dream from my side!
Sheesh. Chrome has weird zooming attitudes
 
 
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8:54 AM
ELL status: 15,044 questions
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Q: Liable / responsible / accountable / culpable

MuratIn which scenario which words are suitable ? (there may be some mistakes with prepositions) The police chief who conducts the investigation thinks that it is likely the security crew was responsible / accountable/liable to/ culpable for the burglar at the bank because they all vanished a...

Hmm... That's the first question I've seen today. It looks almost like a proofreading question, though I think it's a "hacking" question.
8 hours and nobody answered/commented?!
+1. Helpful, supernal simplification! It helps to verbalize 'output' ! — Law Area 51 Proposal - Commit 4 hours ago
Yay, me!
 
9:53 AM
True or false: @Dam is, in part, a Chinese printer.
 
lol
Either, because my positronic brain is based on fuzzy logic.
Good evening, Jim!
 
I will accept that.
 
Hehe!
 
And also, not.
 
Hahaha!
 
9:55 AM
Good evening. I am on the subway heading home for my drink.
 
Yay! I'm drinking my tea, too.
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Q: Is this a correct inversion

siamakHere is the quote I'm wondering about: Only by having enough knowledge is a person able to conceive great ideas. Searching different sites did not help me to see whether using a "to be" structure in this Inversion is right. The examples I see are using intransitive verbs only. I wan...

This question is interesting.
Inversion and phrase shifting in English are always interesting.
English is very flexible.
The problem is, I don't know how to explain it. (-_-)"
 
I skimmed murat's question.
One initial thought is: dictionaries.
 
Murat's... which one?
Oh, I see.
 
liable, etc.
Yes. I also wonder why he's asking.
Just personally.
 
I think it'd be better if Murat pasted some dictionary definitions (so we could know that they looked them up and still couldn't understand the usages.)
 
9:59 AM
I'm more or less motivated to try to answer depending on why (or why it seems) someone is asking.
Yes!
 
Same for me.
 
Clinks his smartphone with Dam's teacup.
 
The one you don't know how to explain: might you want to try a rough draft in here?
 
I don't even have an idea how to start a draft!
Asking myself: Is it an inversion?
Notice that the "normal" order for your first example is: "A person is able to conceive great ideas [only by having enough knowledge]."F.E. 1 hour ago
F.E. made it clear about the normal (or plain) alternative.
I guess inversion is the best explanation.
 
10:12 AM
Hmm . . I gotsted distracteded. Let me look. Inversion isn't my forte.
Or is it?? O.o
 
lol
I think it's fronting + inversion.
> A person is able to conceive great ideas only by having enough knowledge.
Only by having enough knowledge [a person is] able to conceive great ideas.
Only by having enough knowledge is a person able to conceive great ideas.
But maybe explaining it as an inversion in one step is easier to understand.
> A robot is in a room.
In a room is a robot.
:P
 
Here! In here!!
 
Yeah!
Big question of the day: "How can you make everyone like you?" "You can't."
 
Clone yourself?
 
Possibly!
 
10:19 AM
Then eliminate all non-clones.
 
Wait, does that mean every copy!? -- Ah, I see.
 
I shouldn't've thought of non-clones as copies. :P
 
10:33 AM
O.O
OK. Yes. You are right.
It is an example of fronting.
Do you have some idea why someone would want to do so?
If so, it might be helpful to readers to state that.
And there is a particular reason why we invert.
 
Fronting? I think fronting and inversion are usually about focus.
 
Yes. And why change the order of subject and auxiliary there?
 
That, I don't know (or know as much as know know).
I know that it doesn't sound good without the inversion.
 
When not: A knowledgeable person is able to conceive great ideas.
 
However, when we say or write something in an uncommon way, it always is about some sort of emphasis.
 
10:42 AM
This came up the other day!
One or two days ago, and I forgot the rule. Now I got it.
Nowhere ... ?
Wasn't it?
Something started with "Nowhere"
and we were talking about inversion.
 
Oh, it was just yesterday.
 
Yeah.
And actually, I think you said it.
But I forgot.
 
Eh?
 
I think you (someone?) said something like "because it's negative."
But that's just it.
 
Did I stumble on something important?
Ahh
 
10:44 AM
When we front an adverbial that is negative or limiting, we invert subject and first auxiliary.
 
nods
 
There you go.
Write it up!
 
Oh, I can see that now.
I didn't think of Only in a negative sense.
 
"Negative or limiting"
 
Now I can see that it restricts the cases.
nods
 
10:46 AM
Few are the people who know this. O.O
 
nods
 
Well, I always knew it, but couldn't articulate it.
I can do it!
 
Yay!
 
To be clear: I can invert when the condition applies, but I normally cannot explain why.
I did not imply that I will write YOUR answer.
Even if you were to go and ride the sun away.
O.o
 
I was just thinking that I will link the question to Man_From_India's answer.
@JimReynolds Who knows? I could have had to.
 
10:50 AM
O.O
Where is his?
 
I think it's in that Nowhere question.
 
Yes. Do you have it open on tab 386?
 
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A: There are vs are there

Man_From_IndiaFrom Practical English Usage by Michael Swan - We can use nowhere at the beginning of the sentence for the purpose of emphasis, and then auxiliary verb will precede the subject. Example - Nowhere had I less expected to see her than in my house. In your example sentence, Nowhere in th...

 
Our room is crowded today.
I mean that in a positive way, of course.
Popular.
 
:-)
 
10:53 AM
Maybe our stimulating conversation yesterday sold subscriptions. O.0
I plan to be very conventional today, however.
Life is about balance.
 
Just to let you know. There was something happened last night, and I was a part of it. Anyway, that is about as much as I want to say. The rest, I think you may be able to guess.
@JimReynolds You sure have lived in the East long enough!
 
Hmm. No, I don't know.
If I don't need to, I don't need to.
If I need to, then I suppose I'll find out.
 
Then, it'd be better not to know it or be a part of it. It's not what you should be bothered or gotten involved with. I mean, to keep your mind in peace and calm.
 
Gah. I have been thinking for some days that I want to chat with you somewhere else. But only because I have a sort of business idea or partially-formed thoughts.
And I thought I might like to just share the gist of it with you and see if you have any thoughts.
 
Oh, I've forgotten about your school forming! Sorry!
 
10:59 AM
What? Me too.
I am thinking about lots of things lately.
 
I mean, I should've asked you about how it's going.
 
Oh. My new job?
I have a new job.
:D
 
Yay!
 
And I always have ideas.
 
@JimReynolds If you think my thought is worth it, I'm more than happy to help!
 
11:01 AM
When we are both settled for 30 minutes, sometime, let's figure out a place to chat.
 
nods -- How about tomorrow evening? Like at 7 or 8 p.m. (my local time)?
 
Right now, one of the actors just bought me some fried rice!!
Happiness.
Yes.
I think so.
 
Nice!
It's 6:03 p.m. now over here.
 
I am one hour ahead of you!
 
Got it!
 
11:03 AM
So our business should be: I read stock market information, and you buy and sell!
:D
 
Hah!
:D
Related: ell.stackexchange.com/a/54650/3281. As you appear to already know, an inversion can happen when we front an adverbial that is negative or limiting. Here is an example from the book in that post: Only after her death was I able to appreciate her.Damkerng T. 24 secs ago
I borrowed your "front an adverbial that is negative or limiting". Hope you don't mind. :-)
Oh! By doing that, I think I just made the question look more like a duplicate!
 
11:23 AM
I think this is a great place for people to help each other craft answers.
Well, do you think it should be deemed a duplicate?
 
11:43 AM
@JimReynolds The inversion question? I think so.
But I'd like to hear more from the OP. (Something like, oh, yes, I got it now.)
 
On closer reading, @Dam, it seems that the OP is confused specifically about the verb to be.
 
Yes. The verb to be in inversions.
 
I think they can use a specific answer.
 
My idea was that the OP might be able to figure it out themselves after seeing the examples in MFI's answer.
@JimReynolds An answer is of course useful!
 
But what harm in answering?
 
11:46 AM
So, I think it could be closed as a dup, but I didn't vote to close it.
@JimReynolds Nothing, if the answer is a good answer!
(But we could end up with octadups like those mentioned on Meta.SE!)
 
Ha. Well, but if we take it to the extreme, there should then be only as many questions as there are chapters in a good grammar!
 
Indeed!
So I think, it's sort of like how the community chooses to strike a balance.
This is a great long answer about this subject but how does this help the OP understand why his text book is telling him that the correct choice is "The Chinese invented the printer." and the choice "The Chinese have invented the printer." is wrong (in this case). — Catija 7 hours ago
 
Yes. And more often than not x is deemed a duplicate or not on rather arbitrary grounds.
 
@JimReynolds Indeed. I think we can even look at everything on any stack as subjective, if we really want to.
I think it's the best to keep things in checked and balanced by listening to each other.
 
I disagree with Catija 90.3% of the time.
Therefore, s/he must be "eliminated". 0.0
 
11:54 AM
About the comment above (from the Chinese invented the printer question), I think we can answer the OP along the lines of either the book was telling a baby rule; it's not incomplete, or the book was wrong.
@JimReynolds Hah! I think their answers/comments are useful, too.
 
Or even, let's focus on this (baby) rule... :-)
 
Hmm... That can be such an important point for all of us to remember.
I like "rules of thumb"
Or "Textbooks often/sometimes teach . . ."
 
nods -- They're useful. Sadly, I see times and again the learner misunderstands English usage because of these rules.
Oh, I think I'm gonna have something delicious tonight!
 
Are you venturing out for food?
 
11:59 AM
A neighbor is cooking something, and I think I will get some of the dishes she makes.
 
hi
i have a questions
 
These are the things that keep life worth living.
Hi!
 
Hi! @user965347!
@JimReynolds Yes!
 
what is the plural of 'do' ?
and what is the plural of 'does'
 
12:00 PM
Eh, hmm... I think you mean does, but I've never thought of it as plural.
@Jim Is it plural?
 
yea actually i write a blog and there are so many 'do' words in my blog , but what should i write to plural 'do' ?
 
give us an example sentence.
 
there in my blog
 
Okay. Here is how I see and use it. Use does with its singular subject; use do with its plural subject.
 
12:02 PM
'do and dont in C++'
 
Oh, I see...
I think it's Do's and Don'ts
Hmm... Not sure about the '.
 
Yes.
Do's
 
oh yes i see
 
@JimReynolds Did I put the apostrophe in the right place in Don'ts?
 
12:04 PM
Don't's
 
Ahh
 
There is probably more than one good answer to don't
 
thanks anyway
have a good day
 
You're welcome!
 
sure!
 
12:06 PM
Oh, this is a smart way to evade the problem! -- DOs & DONTs
:D
 
yes
Or, one could say, solve it!
 
:D
Good evening @Man_From_India!
 
I am raining fine @DamkerngT.
:D
 
Hahaha!
 
Good evening @DamkerngT.
 
12:09 PM
I think I'm raining okay, too!
 
What about our Jim?
 
Hi Man!
 
Oh it's hard to make tree diagram :-(
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Q: Are these "for + nouns" adjectival prepositional phrases or adverbial prepositional ones?

Kinzle BConsider: Some "for + nouns" are adjectival prepositional phrases; others are adverbial prepositional ones, but I am not sure which is which in these following examples: The pension plans involve very little risk for employers. A bank creates a reserve for loan losses. How do invest...

 
Don't leave us without raining.
 
12:11 PM
Oh, that one!
It's still in my "Later" tabs.
 
yes I am planning to make tree diagram
 
Maybe a few hundred tabs from this one!
 
yes I started to answer, and realized I made mistake in my last diagram
 
@Man_From_India Nice!
 
12:14 PM
Good Heavens!
It's a work of art.
 
ha ha
No I made some mistake in last sentence. Though I have done with only three sentences. I am having hard time to diagram.
 
(cont...) means there are more arts coming soon. :P
@Man_From_India Oh, you did all that manually! I thought you used some kind of program.
 
Let's see...I don't know how will I denote infinitive clause in tree diagram...let's see
@DamkerngT. No online tool :-)
 
Ahh
 
this one is wrong
> How do investors decide on the expected returns they require for individual investments?
I need to mention Relative clause there
 
12:18 PM
nods
 
The right one is this
 
It's [ How do investors decide on [ the expected returns [ they require for individual investments ] ] ]
 
I am taking a little nap. I want to see the perfect tree diagram when I wake up. :D
 
Hahaha!
 
Let's see if I can concentrate and prepare them :-)
 
12:19 PM
Ah, I'm going to get some dishes from my neighbor.
BBL
 
Yay! Enjoy.
 
100 rep is not easy to come :-) Jim,u need to do hard work.
 
Oh Gosh!!!
 
Let's see!
I might have to do some work on my real job later. But I will take a look, ok?
 
12:21 PM
Oh sure :-)
 
12:35 PM
I had to get it in there. If it's a dupe, that's ok.
 
A ping before tofu soup!
+1 and going back to my tofu. :-)
 
1:13 PM
I can recall that question now.
I think it's one of the tricky corners, probably not only in the English language.
> I've built schools for children.
Was it about "schools for children"? Or was it about "I built them for children"?
A genuinely ambiguous sentence, though however we read it doesn't matter much.
 
 
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2:44 PM
print "Hello!"
How are we all?
 
@Iplodman I'm not sure. Maybe I will be more sure about today tomorrow.
But so far, so good.
 
Ah, that's in time's nature! You can't be sure about how tommorow's yesterday will end, unless it's today's tomorrow!
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Good to hear it though ;p
 
I had part of our controlled assement for computer science today c:/:c
 
Ah! How was it going?
 
2:50 PM
*We had (mobile-- can't edit)
Good thanks! We've had about two hours out of twenty so far, and it's going well!
 
That's very nice!
 
;P
I'll talk again when I'm home c:
 
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Q: Can wee bonnie lass be used for a 2-year-old girl?

Ardis EllI know what wee bonnie lass means, but my question is can we use it for kids? I heard that it can only be used when complimenting a girl, as in boys use it, but I may be mistaken.

 
@Iplodman Okay!
 
We shall know more about today tomorrow, wee bonnie lass. That's in time's nature.
O.O
 
2:54 PM
By the way, I've just watched the later parts of The Railway Man. I didn't know that it's a great movie! Coincidentally, it's about two men during WW II, one having been holding his anger, hatred, and grudge (which was reasonable) for so long. After they resolved their matters, it was a good ending in the end.
@JimReynolds It's the first time I've ever heard the three words being used as one!
 
Hi. :D
I woke up from my nap feeling bad. :'(
Too long of a nap, I think.
 
Aww... I know that kind of feeling after a nap!
 
And I felt a strangely intense concern that I did something without thinking . . . inconsiderately.
Like I put the answer to the inversion question.
 
Hah!
 
And I edited Chinese printer, which the OP rolled back.
 
2:58 PM
?!?
 
But somehow, I think I didn't commit a deadly sin.
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A: Why is 'The Chinese have invented the printer' wrong?

Peter Cordes "The Chinese invented the printer." Statement of historical fact. "The Chinese have invented the printer."? Saying it that way implies it just happened, like you'd say "The Chinese have invaded our moon base!". As discussed in comments, you can get away with this usage in reply to a q...

What was invented was the printing press. Two kinds, I think.
Not what we call a printer, I think.
 
Oh, I see. I think all but "the printing press" would've been accepted as an edit by the OP.
 

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