English Language Learners

Anonymous

07:03

A frustrating number of questions on ELL look like this:

Anonymous

1. The title contains something like the actual question.

Anonymous

2. The body contains a quote and nothing else, probably not formatted as a quote.

Damkerng T.

I think it's a result of the user-interface.

In our "Ask a Question" form, basically, there are three input boxes: title, body, and tags.

skullpatrol

I think it is the result of inexperience.

Maulik V

nima_persian is a strange user here

I mean she asks in a very unusual way

Damkerng T.

07:06

In the title input box, it says: What's your English language learning question? Be specific.

In the body input box, it's empty.

Maulik V

I asked her plenty of time to format/align but still... she has come with dozens of trivial queries leaving out answers as they are..never been chosen!

Damkerng T.

So naturally, a user would type his/her question in the title input box, and probably that's about it.

Maulik V

ell.stackexchange.com/users/3751/…

Damkerng T.

I see. I think most of our answers do not actually answer nima.

Maulik V

then?

Anonymous

07:09

Oh?

Damkerng T.

I was surprised yesterday when nima told me that nima couldn't understand rather.

Maulik V

yes...she's too novice...don't know the word for that

Anonymous

Oh, that was nima_persian who wrote that.

Maulik V

underdog wll be too harsh

Damkerng T.

It gave me a big long pause.

How could I explain it?

Anonymous

07:10

Underdog has a positive connotation. You root for the underdog to win!

Anonymous

Novice is okay. I would say "too much of a novice"

skullpatrol

inexperienced?

Anonymous

That sounds like a good choice

skullpatrol

:D

Maulik V

nah..inexperienced is still with some knowledge

Anonymous

07:11

Now who's being harsh? :-)

Maulik V

haha

Damkerng T.

Nima can ask questions; don't forget that.

skullpatrol

complete beginner?

Maulik V

but I mean... she does not understand anything... when explained and asks about complex tenses that even I'm learning these days

nods - complete beginner!

Damkerng T.

I was surprised because considering what nima wrote in nima's question, I expected nima knows what rather means.

Ah, perhaps that's another thing that surprised me as well.

Maulik V

07:13

another user is user(some number)

plenty of questions, almost same style, no research/homework and no chosen answers

Damkerng T.

Some of the questions are about nontrivial tense usages.

Anonymous

SE used to display the percent of answers each user has accepted.

Anonymous

They stopped displaying this information right before ELL launched, as I recall.

Damkerng T.

Here is a big question... Is ELL really for everyone learning English?

Anonymous

Can you explain what you mean?

Maulik V

07:15

@DamkerngT. I'm in fully agreement :P

Crystal, do you use the phrase 'full fledged'

for anything that's now fully functional?

Damkerng T.

I mean nima's case reminds me of the comments of that guy who criticized ELL.

Anonymous

0

A: Do you know the reason why there has been used this tense?

Has been used because writer or speaker wanted to say that They are married since 20 years and still they are married and not divorced.

Anonymous

Is this very low quality?

Anonymous

@MaulikV Hmm. Can you give me an example? It's easier for me to judge an example than to outline when it's used off the top of my head.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat It seems like one, but essentially (putting grammar and phrasing aside) it's probably exactly what nima needs.

Anonymous

07:17

@DamkerngT. It's difficult to understand, though, so it could use an edit.

Maulik V

Okay... "Hey, what happened to that transmitter you were making? There were some issues of working it?", "Ah, that's all done. It's working fully-fledged."

Parth Kohli

Finally...

Anonymous

@MaulikV I think full-fledged is used as an attributive adjective. I'm not sure it can be inflected to fully-fledged.

Maulik V

both are adjective and they both exist

interchangeable

Damkerng T.

macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/fully-fledged

Anonymous

07:20

It looks like you were trying to use it as an adverb modifying working.

Damkerng T.

I edited it a little: ell.stackexchange.com/a/19479/3281

Anonymous

COCA has 1012 results for full-fledged and only 16 for fully-fledged.

Anonymous

So it does look like there is a rare variant fully-fledged

Maulik V

hhmm

but is it used

Anonymous

Though not an adverbial inflection

Maulik V

07:21

instaead of fully functional

A full-fledged hotel means fully functioning hotel

Damkerng T.

full-fledged is what I've heard/seen in software talks/documentations.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I was unaware that anyone said fully-fledged until today, FWIW.

Damkerng T.

Me neither.

Anonymous

Full-fledged is significantly more common in AmE

Maulik V

Grrrhh...it's again AmE and BrE

Damkerng T.

07:23

:14385346 Is it real?

Anonymous

Is it?

Maulik V

Fully is BrE

Anonymous

Let's check BNC.

Maulik V

oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/full+fledged.

Parth Kohli

@DamkerngT. I just checked. It's not.

Anonymous

07:23

Yep! 79 to 14 in BNC

Parth Kohli

(Thankfully!)

Anonymous

In favor of fully-fledged

Damkerng T.

@ParthKohli It shouldn't, 'cause I read it a few weeks ago that he just removed it from the app store.

Anonymous

I'll amend my earlier comment. Full-fledged is significantly more common in AmE.

Anonymous

Thanks, @MaulikV!

Maulik V

07:24

my pet dictionary suggests it cannot be used for other than birds and people :P

Parth Kohli

@DamkerngT. Yeah - at first I thought it was after he removed it.

Anonymous

Really? Hmm...

Parth Kohli

But it's just a stupid hoax.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Perhaps that gave me the bias toward full-fledged given my software background.

Maulik V

wordwebonline.com/en/FULLFLEDGED

Damkerng T.

07:25

@ParthKohli This confirms the saying "Don't trust everything you read on the Internet."

Maulik V

And surprisingly, that sounds better and appropriate

a bird, fully-fledged...now ready to fly!

Anonymous

Oh, I remember that site!

Parth Kohli

Another news says that it's coming back to the store! This one is true.

Anonymous

It had some weird examples . . .

Maulik V

because fledge refers to the feathers of the bird

Anonymous

07:26

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A: Which one is correct: 'escaped' or 'escaped from'?

Well, it all depends which context you are talking in. Okay, I found something good for this. WordWeb has better clarification on the usage of this verb (escape): 1- Run away from confinement (The convicted murderer escaped from a high security prision). 2 - Fail to experience (Fortuna...

Maulik V

Yeah, WW is my favorite

:)

Anonymous

I'm not sure I put much faith in it, myself.

Parth Kohli

@MaulikV WW... Woodrow Wilson? Willy Wonka? Walter White?

Anonymous

> The largest objects grow rapidly, becoming full-fledged planets in a few million years or less - an astronomical blink of an eye

Anonymous

> a tentative whimper at first, then a yelp, then a full-fledged howl

Anonymous

07:28

> The first full-fledged presidential debates took place fifty years ago tonight when Democrat John F. Kennedy faced Republican Richard M. Nixon in front of a national TV audience.

Damkerng T.

@ParthKohli I'd go for Willy Wonka. :-)

Anonymous

> These nationalist sentiments freed up Beijing to go on a full-fledged witch hunt.

Anonymous

> This would be a full-fledged fete, brimming with the kind of ambition that promises either raging success or ego-crushing disaster.

Anonymous

> And perhaps, in the not too distant future, this qualified appropriation might lead to full-fledged liberation.

Maulik V

yes yes... that's what brought a question in my mind

Anonymous

07:29

> Last week, the Securities and Exchange Commission said it had upgraded its inquiry into the backdating of stock options at Take-Two from an informal probe to a full-fledged investigation.

Maulik V

that's my fav but only the only source

Anonymous

This is the closest example I've found to "fully functional":

Maulik V

at times, it makes things clearest... that others try hard...so I have kept that as an option.

Anonymous

> Though a full-fledged, nationwide carbon credits system is years away, some states have already begun preparing.

Maulik V

ah...nima again!

Anonymous

07:31

> The medical teams that have been in place here say that they've been getting more supplies and more backups. They're able to handle a little bit more of the patients, although this is a field hospital. We don't want to give anyone the impression that they can do any kind of medical services here that you'd get in a full-fledged hospital.　　(note the contrast)

Anonymous

> It's just the hypocrisy, folks -- it's blatant, full-fledged, 100 percent hypocrisy.

Anonymous

It seems to me that perhaps most of the examples in COCA are used for non-bird non-humans.

Anonymous

These examples are all from COCA.

Anonymous

I should check GloWbE more often.

Anonymous

Are you familiar with GloWbE, Maulik?

Anonymous

07:34

@MaulikV I left a comment. I see what you mean about the formatting, by the way.

Maulik V

hhmm

nope..not familiar

Anonymous

corpus2.byu.edu/glowbe

Maulik V

hey wow... @snailboat thanks

hey you again became boat

as the plane is missing LOL

?

Damkerng T.

Now, nima is asking about RATHER explicitly.

Anonymous

07:50

"Phrasal verbs" are such a pain.

Damkerng T.

Learning a new language without immersion is sure a pain.

Anonymous

Well, I'd say "exposure".

Anonymous

The less exposure you have to the language, the slower you'll learn. (It's possible you may forget faster than you learn, if you have little enough exposure.)

Anonymous

I did write a long-ish answer about phrasal verbs, although it was probably not terribly helpful :-)

Anonymous

I'm too lazy to write another.

Damkerng T.

07:59

Do we have a question about "phrasal verbs"?

Somehow I think nima's English's progress is going backward.

I remember I saw some of nima's posts on ELU last year, or maybe earlier this year.

The way I can remember, nima back then was better at English than our current nima.

I wonder what happened to nima?

Anonymous

4

A: When to add "up" after a verb and when not?

Phrasal verbs In your question, you give examples where a verb is used together with another word, and the combination has some idiomatic meaning. These are commonly called phrasal verbs†. For example, look at the definition given by Collins for the phrasal verb pick up. It gives a whopping s...

Damkerng T.

Oh, you should make it canonical.

Anonymous

Oh, it predated canonical posts.

Anonymous

The OP thought I wrote that in 9 minutes. (He posted his comment 9 minutes after I wrote it, so I guess he misunderstood the indicator :-)

Anonymous

It actually took me all night.

Anonymous

08:07

Besides, there are other analyses that are probably more useful for learners.

Damkerng T.

Composing something that long is not trivial.

skullpatrol

Canonical answers force students to rote memorize also :-(

Damkerng T.

I offered a bounty!

Anonymous

Oh, dear.

Anonymous

I guess if the post is being bumped anyway, I'll make the minor edit I never got around to ;-)

Damkerng T.

08:12

@skullpatrol To me, canonical answers are for being bookmarked and coming back to read little by little.

@snailboat You could. I need to wait for at least 24 hours anyway. :-)

skullpatrol

@DamkerngT. Indeed they easier to memorize little by little ;-)

Damkerng T.

LOL

skullpatrol

That's why we do it for definitions in the vocabulary for math, etc.

You can't argue with a loaded canon :D

Damkerng T.

One thing I like about math is that students can get by rather well without having to memorize any jargon nor formula.

Especially if they know how to derive those formulas themselves.

Anonymous

Well, "math" is a pretty big subject.

Anonymous

08:19

It's true that it doesn't have to involve memorization, but you'll probably end up memorizing a lot of stuff anyway, don't you think? :-)

Damkerng T.

My "students" means pre-university level, of course.

@snailboat Give me the axioms, and I will derive all the rest. :-)

Anonymous

Akin to programming with no standard library!

Damkerng T.

Quite like so, I think.

Anonymous

Well, I suppose a standard library can contain some "axioms"--things you can't implement yourself.

Damkerng T.

So you see, I don't mind much about Lua not having a big battery included.

Anonymous

08:21

Well, I like Lua a lot!

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I think I need some way to put at least a character on the screen in any language. :-)

Oh, I can still remember how complicated it was when I had to do lots of outp just to get something out there.

It was a long piece of code, I think, in one of my labs, writing a code to display a number (which was fed into the system via toggle switches) on 3-digit LEDs!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Watch out! Putting a character on the screen isn't a pure function!

Damkerng T.

It sure wasn't!

I was just glad that it didn't turn out to be a spaghetti code. :-)

By definition, it's side effects.

Anonymous

Side effects are evil. All code must be pure!

Damkerng T.

But we need these functions anyway.

Anonymous

08:27

0

Q: What does "rather" mean in "rather Jimmy Olsenish"?

Jimmy Olsenish means "similar to Jimmy Olsen": He is a nice enough boy - rather Jimmy Olsen-ish I thought. She has an unreal figure, rather Barbie-ish in its proportions! When you say, for instance, he is similar to Jimmy Olsen (in appearance, behaviour and character) you would say Jim...

Anonymous

How does my edit look? Too drastic?

Damkerng T.

I was hoping that nima would give some feedback and then it might be closed as a duplicate.

Anonymous

Oh, I'd vote to close.

Anonymous

I think.

Damkerng T.

My message was just arrived...

@DamkerngT. Actually, (see, I can use commas too) I didn't call her a goon; rather, (again) I called her complectified. Which isn't a real word so maybe I'm the real goon here. Anyway, maybe I should be nice to third parties, not only to participants. Anyway, maybe she participates too, who knows. So I'll delete the offending part. — D_Bester 1 min ago

Anonymous

08:30

I took away my downvote, but I don't think I can upvote it without further explanation.

Anonymous

That could be tricky for learners, I suppose.

Anonymous

Let me show you what I mean:

Anonymous

macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/rather

Anonymous

> to a fairly large degree

Anonymous

dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/rather_1

Anonymous

08:32

> to a slight degree

Anonymous

> "SMALL AMOUNT"

Anonymous

education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/rather

Anonymous

> To a certain extent; somewhat

Anonymous

dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/american-english/rather_3

Anonymous

> to a noticeable degree; somewhat

Damkerng T.

08:34

I used the one in Macmillan in one of my comments. I think it's not rather good. Then the OP posted this by OP's self. I'm sure where the OP got this rephrasing, so I thought the OP understand the word.

Am i CORRECTLY EXPLAIN THE FOLLOWING? He is somewhat like Jimmy Olesen. — nima_persian 20 hours ago

Anonymous

You think it's not rather good?

Damkerng T.

I mean--to help OP to understand its meaning.

Anonymous

What does not rather mean?

Anonymous

Not very good?

Damkerng T.

To me, yes.

Anonymous

08:36

Ahh.

Anonymous

Not rather doesn't have an obvious meaning to me.

Damkerng T.

Hah!

@snailboat Or, not quite good.

Anonymous

I understand not quite! ;-)

skullpatrol

the opposite of "rather good"

Anonymous

Well, that's non-obvious.

Damkerng T.

08:38

So I was confused by the OP.

Anonymous

Not quite means "almost!" It doesn't mean the opposite of "quite".

Damkerng T.

To me, not quite can mean anything but quite. ;-)

It's just like when people say, "He is not the best doctor in town."

Is he a good doctor? Well, maybe. Maybe not.

skullpatrol

yes, the "rather" throws the meaning off...

Anonymous

Not quite is often used when something isn't almost correct, or almost whatever. But it means "almost". If it's used outside that situation, its meaning of "almost" softens the blow, making it sound like it's not as harsh as it is.

Anonymous

> Alice: 2 + 2 = 5.
> Bob: Not quite.

Anonymous

08:41

Here, Bob is being charitable. It's not almost true.

skullpatrol

"rather not good" is clearer imo

Anonymous

@skullpatrol That does seem clearer to me. Although I think I prefer "bad" to "not good" in that scenario :-)

Damkerng T.

@skullpatrol Agree.

It think "I'd rather not ..." is also common.

Anonymous

That's an idiom, though.

Anonymous

It's not the same "rather not".

Damkerng T.

08:42

So, "it's not rather good" sounds unnatural?

Or ambiguous?

skullpatrol

yes, to me

Anonymous

Well, it could work in context.

Anonymous

"It's rather good, don't you think?" "It's not rather good, it's horrific! A blight upon humanity!"

Damkerng T.

Isn't that similar to: "Do you like it?" "No, I don't like it. I love it!"

Anonymous

Sure, if you like.

Damkerng T.

08:45

But usually, "I don't like it" means something else.

Anonymous

Yeah.

Anonymous

Usually, your sentence is unnatural and (to me) the meaning is not obvious.

Damkerng T.

Discovery of the day: "It's not rather good" is rather not good.

Anonymous

Hee.

Damkerng T.

I found it!

I found it: "a bit" is informal.

Longman English Grammar 6.27.5

Anonymous

08:54

A bit, yeah.

Anonymous

Was this a previous topic of discussion?

Damkerng T.

Yes. I remember once we'd a question about "a bit" vs. "a little".

Anonymous

Not this one!

Anonymous

-1

Q: "A small question" versus "a little question"

Which adjective should I use with question, small or little?

word-choice adjective

Anonymous

3

Q: What is "tad askew"?

Seinfeld, "The Raincoats." (Jerry and Elaine sitting in the booth) ELAINE: N-I know they're your parents Jerry an' they're very nice people. But don't you think it's odd, that a thirty-five year old man is going to these lengths to see that someone else's parents are enjoying t...

meaning-in-context vocabulary

Anonymous

09:02

Hmm.

Anonymous

I can't find it!

Damkerng T.

It must be the last November or after that.

I remember you said something like you didn't think "a bit" is informal, and I said it is.

But "a bit" wasn't the essence of the question and answer, I think.

Hmm... probably the OP requested for a phrase that it can be used for postponing an interview.

Anonymous

It does sound informal to me.

Damkerng T.

A-ha! Hehe.

Anonymous

Where's the question? :-) I can't find it.

Anonymous

09:06

I found it!

Anonymous

Is a little more formal than a little bit? They seem about the same to me. — snailplane Dec 31 '13 at 17:23

Anonymous

A little bit and a little both seem informal to me.

Anonymous

That's probably why I wrote that.

Damkerng T.

Ah, yes. That's it!

Ah, it's "a little bit" not just "a bit".

Anonymous

I used a different detergent this weekend, and my laundry all smells funny now.

Damkerng T.

09:08

You will get used to it in a little bit. :-)

Anonymous

I hope so!

Anonymous

It gives me this feeling like something is slightly wrong.

Damkerng T.

Oh, what is an expression (in English) to make your new shoes comfortable for your feet?

In Thai, we have something like "bite it first".

(We call shoes "it".)

Anonymous

Wear them in. Break them in.

Anonymous

Maybe the latter is better.

Anonymous

09:15

I'm not sure.

Anonymous

Oh, that's a "phrasal verb" (verb + particle + NP combo):
> wear [ in ] [ your new shoes ]
> wear [ your new shoes ] [ in ]
> *wear [ in ] [ them ]
> wear [ them ] [ in ]

Damkerng T.

They are!

Anonymous

An unstressed personal pronoun must come between the NP object and the verb.

Anonymous

Same with break in. But with a stressed NP like "your new shoes", the particle can go before or after.

Anonymous

Hmm...

Anonymous

09:22

(Oh, no, the ellipsis police!)

Anonymous

(I'm piling up ellipsis tickets fast...!)

Anonymous

Definiteness is a difficult subject, isn't it?

Anonymous

People give simplified analyses of when to say the and a

Damkerng T.

For people whose first language has no concept of articles.

(I'm one of them.)

How can you describe the difference between colors to color-blinded people?

It's hard.

Anonymous

Well, I don't think this is the same thing.

Damkerng T.

09:25

Perhaps not exactly, but I think it's very similar.

Anonymous

In that you actually can describe when the and a(n) are used, if you like :-)

Damkerng T.

Oh, I think I read about someone who lost his sight when he was around 4.

Then with a modern medical miracle, he got his sight back when he's 30 something.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I read about someone who had laser eye surgery who claimed that she saw many new, never before seen colors during her surgery

Damkerng T.

And he couldn't make sense of what he see!

@snailboat During?

Anonymous

You're awake during laser eye surgery.

Damkerng T.

09:29

Does she still see those new colors after the surgery?

Anonymous

I only recall "during", and I imagine she would have said so if she meant after as well

Anonymous

I don't know if the report is true.

Anonymous

But it's a fun thought, isn't it? Seeing new colors.

Damkerng T.

In my 30 something case, the guy can see the curb and the street but couldn't tell which is the curb and which is the street.

He can see everything perfectly, and yet he couldn't understand it in 3D.

@snailboat It could be if that's normal. :-)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I bet he can learn.

Anonymous

09:32

The brain is more plastic than we once thought.

Damkerng T.

According to the documentary, it's over one year after his surgery, and it didn't improve much.

Anonymous

Ah, this is an answer I wrote about our topic from a few days ago:

Anonymous

-2

Q: "It is" or "it are"

Does it always agree with a singular verb? For example, does one say (i) or rather (ii)? (i) It is the birds he is chasing away. (ii) It are the birds he is chasing away.

pronouns verb-agreement

Damkerng T.

Perhaps it's something like you can't hear foreign languages the way you could when you're very young.

Anonymous

Oh, your brain is definitely very different from a child's in terms of plasticity.

Anonymous

09:34

And in many other ways.

Anonymous

It's thought that learning many things is harder for adults than for children.

Damkerng T.

Perhaps it's just different, not harder.

But I think I have to admit that many things seem to be much harder.

Anonymous

Well, we have plenty of advantages over children.

Damkerng T.

And plenty of disadvantages.

Anonymous

Yeah. :-)

skullpatrol

09:36

There really is not very much known about how the brain actually works.

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

I'm doing whatever the exact opposite of nodding is.

Damkerng T.

Hah!

(shaking head? ^)

skullpatrol

You disagree then?

Anonymous

Having this discussion is beyond me for the evening.

skullpatrol

09:38

me too pal

Anonymous

Yay! I'm somebody's pal!

Damkerng T.

I think we know much more than the last decades, but we still have much more to learn about our brains.

skullpatrol

:D

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I can agree with that.

Anonymous

We know an awful lot about how the brain works.

Anonymous

09:38

But there's an awful lot more we don't know ;-)

Anonymous

(Using the same phrase in both sentences is not intended as an assertion that we're "halfway there" or anything like that, by the way.)

Damkerng T.

I think the problem is we're (I'm) unsure about where we are in our way to know-it-all about our brains.

Sandeep Dhamija

Quick question - In India, when someone doesn't feel like working but still has to, one jokingly uses a Hindi phrase which translates to - "I have to do it for the evil-doer stomach" which implies one can't survive without earning livelihood and to earn that, one has to do work. I'm sure there is an English equivalent of this phrase. Does anyone have any idea?

Anonymous

Oh! That sounds like it would make a good question for ELL.

Damkerng T.

+1

A good phrase right now is perhaps beyond me.

Anonymous

09:44

I'm no good at that sort of thing, myself. Answering that kind of question, I mean.

skullpatrol

I owe, I owe, so off to work I go :D

Anonymous

But there are other people who are better at it, and your question will get their attention if you post it out there.

Anonymous

@skullpatrol Bad pun! ;-)

Anonymous

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Q: Why is "Mary told the cake to be cut by John" ungrammatical?

Mary told the cake to be cut by John. A textbook says that this example is ungrammatical, but it seems to make sense to me: where does the sentence have its fault?

grammaticality

Anonymous

This is still a good question.

Damkerng T.

09:47

Me telling my cake: You're going to be cut by John. Heehee.

Cake: Yikes!

Anonymous

> ??Mary told the cake to be cut by John.
> Mary told John not to be fooled by fad diets.
> Mary expected the cake to be cut by John.

Damkerng T.

> Either my parents or my sister ARE/IS going to visit...

I would guess native speakers might use either.

Anonymous

So, different speakers will use different solutions to resolve the number conflict.

Anonymous

Some will prefer are, favoring agreement with greater number (with "my parents").

Damkerng T.

Aha! That's what I guessed.

Anonymous

09:57

Some will prefer is, favoring proximal agreement (with "my sister").

Anonymous

I think some will use either.

Damkerng T.

Here the OP asked: As a native speaker, which one is "certainly" correct?

Nico

@DamkerngT. and @snailboat, do you ever sleep?

Damkerng T.

I'm disqualified on both respects.

Anonymous

And some style guides recommend placing the plural conjunct closer to the verb because it satisfies both camps:

Damkerng T.

09:58

@Nico I sure will.

Anonymous

> Either my sister or my parents are going to visit.

Anonymous

This is not the only solution, but it is a decent one.

Damkerng T.

The more late hour it is the more ungrammatical sentences I will produce. :-)

Anonymous

And is never a preposition. — snailplane 7 mins ago

Anonymous

@snailplane one and one is two. Here, and is a preposition. but I'm removing from this — Maulik V 1 min ago

Anonymous

09:59

Hmm...

Damkerng T.

Hmm...

Anonymous

@MaulikV Why do you think that's a preposition?

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