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apparently they can make lots of (mostly) quiet sounds
00:25
German people (@ACuriousMind @TobiasFünke are those I can think of) do you relate?
@HerrFeinmann Partly: The introduction is a false friend - "it tastes" is a literal translation of es schmeckt, but German schmecken without any qualifiers is positively connotated, i..e "it tastes" as a full sentence is an actual compliment. Similarly, "one cannot complain" is an idiom expressing approval - literally: There is nothing to complain about, i.e. everything is fine
(though if this was the only thing you said as praise it would still be perceived as deliberately avoiding saying anything specific, this is not what I would say to cooking a friend presented to me)
i.e. all these phrases are what a German would say to express approval, but if they were the only thing they said as approval it would be weird, but not quite as weird as it comes across in the translation
this might also be a very German answer to the question :P
00:40
@ACuriousMind yeah, you confirmed the steretype. One cannot complain. :P
In Italy you have the same sentences and you would only say that jokingly, in an ironic way, so you have to make sure the irony is evident. If you say it seriously it may come off as a little rude :P
@HerrFeinmann I think that is the most easiest and consistent way to label all these brackets, especially including Poisson and Lagrange. What you proposed only works for Fermions and Bosons; it certainly wont work with anyons, say.
I never had to work with anyons and I barely know what they are, so I guess I'll conced the point!
@HerrFeinmann There is certainly some kind of irony/understatement to "one cannot complain", but "it tastes" is just how the German verb functions
just wait until you ask a German "how's it going" and they reply "it has to" :P
(German: "Wie geht's?" - "Muss")
I dropped an "e" in my "concede" grrrrr
@ACuriousMind I swear, these "German replies" in English crack me up
00:57
I was also explicitly taught to reply "I'm fine, thanks. How are you?" instead of trying to answer the question :P
here, $C$ are fermionic operators (on a lattice).
@ACuriousMind Incidentally, Italian has the same literal question to ask what's up
I am wondering if the second and third lines in (3.6) are actually correct. I am getting a different answer after trying direct computation.
"Come va?"
also there is an error in the first image. the $\sigma^+$ should have a minus sign in front of its $\pi i$
01:01
@HerrFeinmann The German "Wie geht's?" is the same - but it's not a question you ask strangers. If you pose this question to someone, it's completely within the bounds of politeness to answer with an honest assessment of how it's going (though oversharing isn't expected :P)
My attempt is $\begin{aligned}
\sigma^{(m)}_+\sigma_+^{(m+1)} &= \exp(-i\pi\sum_{j=1}^{m-1}\sigma_+^{(j)} \sigma_-^{(j)} )C_m^\dagger \exp(-i\pi\sigma_+^{(m)} \sigma_-^{(m)} ) \exp(-i\pi\sum_{j=1}^{m-1}\sigma_+^{(j)} \sigma_-^{(j)} )C_{m+1} \\
&= \exp(-2i\pi\sum_{j=1}^{m-1}\sigma_+^{(j)} \sigma_-^{(j)} )C_m^\dagger \exp(-i\pi\sigma_+^{(m)} \sigma_-^{(m)} )C_{m+1} \\
&= \exp(-2i\pi\sum_{j=1}^{m-1}\sigma_+^{(j)} \sigma_-^{(j)} )[\exp(i\pi\sigma_+^{(m)} \sigma_-^{(m)} )C_m]^\dagger C_{m+1} \\
&= \exp(-2i\pi\sum_{j=1}^{m-1}\sigma_+^{(j)} \sigma_-^{(j)} )C_m^\dagger C_{m+1}.
Like, I ask this to colleagues on break and they will reply with some trouble they have (either at work or privately) and then we talk about that; it's not the same kind of polite greeting it is in most anglophone countries
@ACuriousMind oooh, well I see what you mean. Well, even in English I never had this boundary. I reply sincerely in every language, I don't care what people meant. It's not quite just an idiom, it has the meaning of asking about someone's wellbeing too. The only situation in which I say "I'm fine, thank you" is when I'm too lazy to say it all
I mean that I don't feel compelled to say that I am fine. I could, but not because of some social obligation
In Japan it's even more extreme. You'd probably lie to avoid making the other person uneasy
My usual way to go is to reply "not well" :P
I mean, just like you can say "I'm fine, thank you" without oversharing, you can say "I'm not fine, thank you" without oversharing
They are asking how, not why
@HerrFeinmann Sure, but saying "not fine" is an obvious invitation for them to ask "why not?"
which is impolite if it was just meant as an idiom and not a genuine question
I like the French where you just say ça va in reply to ça va
01:15
It's really that in German I will only ask someone "how it's going" if I am prepared for the answer to spawn an entire conversation - but in English that is how some meetings start and the only expected answer is "I'm fine" - someone actually giving an answer disrupts the expected flow (but it is extremely funny to observe as someone not that involved in the actual topic of the meeting because it would also be impolite for the asker to interrupt the answer :P)
@qwerty as someone who only speaks no living romance language I cannot tell what this means :P
but I would assume 'va' is a form of 'to go'
ca va? is how are you but it is also a response to itself: ca va? ca va.
@ACuriousMind just "how are you" in french. I think literally you're right - "is it going”
and the answer is "is it going?"? or does it also mean "it's going"?
if two people are just asking each other the question here, neither answering but just continuing the conversation I find that even more bizarre than the English expectation of answering "I'm fine" :P
@Slereah defend your language
my french consists of a few basic phrases from high school, so I don't know the fine details of the translation, but it's an accepted response with a full stop, rather than a continued questioning
lol. I also know how say he is cute "Il est mignon"? xD I don't know why they taught us that first
Japanese I remember how to ask for a phone number and that's about it
01:31
did you take some kind of "pickup lines in X languages" course :P
hehehe maybe 👀
the resolution to my question above is that $C_j^\dagger C_j$ is a projector, so it has a simple exponential, which becomes the identity when the parameter is $2\pi i$
01:56
schweg
02:39
does anyone know what a running wave operator is
03:32
meow
04:06
mewoth
soooo busyyy
04:22
hi nI
@naturallyInconsistent Kittel hasn't been too bad... but I've also only gotten through the first 2 chapters
its pretty dry
at some points i had to re-read a bunch but it was all pretty self explanatory since i already had some background
we will see if that holds true for the chapters i dont have background in....
it seems like a good reference book. not necessarily a good learning book. but its ok, its all i have and im learning so it works
@Allie sprinkle some water. It gets better later
like later in the book or is that a joke
04:45
later in the book
Kittel isn't a bad author. It's just that it is trying to be super fast
04:58
yayyyyy
im glad it was fast tbh
it was short and sweet review of reciprocal lattice and some info about bragg diffraction that cleared things up for me
gonna work on ch 2 exercises tomorrow
 
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06:31
morning
@HerrFeinmann coming back to the brief discussion we had a few days ago: I just watched a video where a famous German celebrity talked bs about something physics related; OK, fine. But the comments were so unbearable I could not stand it. It made me speechless
I don't want to even share what they say... it was unbelievable hahaha. I don't know if I should laugh or cry
07:07
hi
07:46
@TobiasFünke ¿Por qué no los dos?
08:42
@TobiasFünke that pain was necessary to make you stronger, 15年前の俺
@HerrFeinmann werent ya two... toddlers... that far back?
08:57
do you believe that reality is a platonic mathematical object? why or why not?
or do you believe in a weaker hypothesis that the universe is has infinitely many layers of platonic mathematical descriptions (Like Feynman's onion)?
or do you take an instrumentalist approach to physics where mathematics models observations instead of some structure of objective reality?
or some other view of physics
@naturallyInconsistent Steins;Gate reference :P
I was 9, btw
@qwerty In Italian you can do that. The usual way of asking is "come va?" which is the literal translation of "how's it going?". Even though the standard answer is "bene" ("fine"), some people like to reply "va" ("it's going"). The impact is like "I'm surviving"
09:25
@TobiasFünke ...you watched a nonsense video and expected more sanity from the comments? Let's say that would not be my usual expectation on the internet :P
Hell these days they may not even be human comments
apparently, Descartes infamously told his pupils to dissect dogs and ignore the squeals because he didn't think the dogs had inner experiences
:(
this is an example of how bad philosophies can negatively impact the world
Descartes though humans were superior to animals, but he was just putting Descartes before the horse.
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@RyderRude en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Dog_affair this was a really horrifying thing
09:33
@qwerty wow
@ACuriousMind well, there was one comment clarifying from a guy with a PhD in Quantum Physics. Then quite a lot of guys answered that comment talking about evil science, corona...you name it
but yes, you are right. however, I am surprised every single time how unspeakably ..... some people are. holy moly :d
so my point is that there were some reasonable comments trying to clarify...
but you cannot win the fight against stupidity
people are still torturing animals but it is normalised because it is for food
torturing for experiments is less acceptable except for rats
Some of my best friends are rats ...
@HerrFeinmann microwave that dayum banana somewhere farther away plz
@TobiasFünke actually, you can... it is just, probably, too unethical...
@naturallyInconsistent o.o what are you proposing?
09:43
@qwerty definitely not myow myow's proposal...
anyway, time for fun miehehehe
@RyderRude Once again I ask you to research things more carefully before just asserting stuff. This story is likely apocryphal and vivisections were rather common in Descartes' day - it was not a unique belief of Descartes due to his philosophy, all the scientists were dissecting animals, essentially. He also had a dog called Monsieur Grat whom he seems to have liked a lot.
See two AskHistorian threads failing to turn up definite of evidence of Descartes specifically being exceptionally cruel to animals himself: reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/n3txww/comment/gwydsh2, reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7wg8m2/comment/du05jus
@JohnRennie are they tortured for experiments :P
@naturallyInconsistent byeee! I will remain in the dark about how we rid the world of stupidity... o.o
@ACuriousMind oh
When I worked at Unilever we had a lab that did LD50 experiments on animals. But that didn't mean the people working there were heartless butchers. They were very aware of the suffering of the animals and did their best to minimise it and to look for in vivo models they could use instead.
09:47
@qwerty cu
@ACuriousMind the source I'm watching says that Aristotle's philosophy didn't make a sharp distinction between mind and body. Descartes made a distinction (calling the separate parts body and soul) and simultaneously declared that only humans had the soul
The problem was that in the UK at the time legislation forced them to do the experiments if Unilever wanted to release the products being tested.
@JohnRennie what is LD50, if I may ask?
@TobiasFünke oh I'm not leaving, I think nI is xD
oh sorry. actually the second time this happens haha
I should not write when I am tired lol
it seems like this philosophy would indeed be dangeous for society, and I wouldn't be surprised if it worsened animal torture even relative to that period
In toxicology, the median lethal dose, LD50 (abbreviation for "lethal dose, 50%"), LC50 (lethal concentration, 50%) or LCt50 is a toxic unit that measures the lethal dose of a given substance. The value of LD50 for a substance is the dose required to kill half the members of a tested population after a specified test duration. LD50 figures are frequently used as a general indicator of a substance's acute toxicity. A lower LD50 is indicative of higher toxicity. The term LD50 is generally attributed to John William Trevan. The test was created by J. W. Trevan in 1927. The term semilethal dose is...
Damn pipped at the post :-)
ninja'd :)
I'm glad I decided to avoid biological sciences and all that jazz
09:49
thanks
@naturallyInconsistent 🗿
@RyderRude just vibes but I wouldn't be surprised either
@qwerty They seem to be happier on average than physics people :P
@TobiasFünke and you felt a primal need to annihilate them, right? Then you realized that there are fights that reason can't win and your rage became grief
hahah
not yet
for now I just put away my cell phone
When I reach that level of frustration, I start making screenshots and sending them to my friends
With raging voice notes
09:55
@HerrFeinmann "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted in a sick society." ;p
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today, we again face the dangerous question of whether a machine that talks like a human should be treated with dignity. if the machine begs you to give it rights, do you deny it because ur math theory says that it can't have inner experiences?
:d yeah. one should also keep in mind that (hopefully) there is a bias in the comment section, in the sense that people are more likely to spread bs than trying to correct the bs (because they know it won't be successful anyway)
even if our theory says that it doesn't have experiences, it would be hard to deny its appeals because it would behave like a human
@TobiasFünke also why would the people who could correct it even watch this stuff :P I haven't seen the video you're talking about and I probably never will unless someone sends it to me as ragebait (please do not send me the video :P)
i think society would eventually be compelled to accept a behavior-based philosophy of consciousness
09:58
@ACuriousMind hehe, prepare yourself :p
oh no lol
@ACuriousMind it was an Instagram reel, so you cannot really control what you see
The appropriate measure of control is called "not watching Instagram reels" :P
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D: run away from Meta
09:59
in the film Animatrix, they explore these ideas
actually I didn't even think ppl under 30 used FB or insta
:D
that's not true, at least not in Europe
I stopped using the few social media I was on when they went all in on algorithmic feeds instead of chronological feeds from people I had explicitly subscribed to
ah, and the "reel" was actually part from a stream on twitch
I am exaggerating but definitely I feel like gen z is not really on FB/insta as much as millennials, and even millennials don't really post anymore
10:01
so the target audience was like 15year olds :s
@qwerty I don't know any statistics, I can just tell from my experience and the people I know personally. Many are much younger than 30 and use it (together with other stuff).
but well, not FB. Only instagram
ahhh. I guess Instagram is not yet completely uncool. for now 👀
yeah hehe
and to not leave any weird impression: My screen time usually is like a few minutes a day
for now
heheheh
I rather think I spend too much time on SE lol
10:18
@qwerty Wait, what? It makes sense for FB (even though I would argue that most people my age have it), but IG is all the rage
Someone just sent an IG reel to me :P
@HerrFeinmann I just thought the 'cool' apps were tik tok and discord xD maybe I am out of touch :p
@TobiasFünke lol you don't count SE as "screen time"? What are you browsing this site on?!
@ACuriousMind no I mean a few minutes a day on Instagram
@qwerty no, it's the children who are wrong!
@qwerty Well, tiktok is, although people use it mostly to watch/publish. IG is more about interacting, I think. Anyways, TikTok is the only one I loathe. It's the nest of misinformation.
Discord, definitely no. It's not a "normie" app
It's definitely for nerds :P
10:31
@HerrFeinmann LOL. this is like when I asked some guy I met if he used Signal and he was like "I have only heard of drug dealers or privacy/tech nerds using it"
@ACuriousMind dot matrix printer
@RyderRude I already told you explicitly several times to not post content from that channel here. Next time you do it you get suspended again, and no, this is not negotiable.
@Slereah to be fair, reading chat as it's printed by one of these printers with endless paper sounds kind of cool
@qwerty My dear, my next question would be "what in the world is 'signal'?" :P
I use Signal :P
@HerrFeinmann soon the Americans will be banned from the clock app and it will hopefully die off...
10:35
@ACuriousMind I just read it here
@ACuriousMind hehehe very sus
TELEGRAM, you guys should use that
(but also like three other messengers in order to be able to communicate with everyone)
My prof is so obsessed with telegram that one day he distributed telegram stickers to everyone
using this machine to communicate
10:37
@qwerty Very - my busiest thread there has messages like "yo, do we have a plan for tomorrow? are we killing this guy or just burning the house down?"
(it's my weekly D&D group)
Incidentally, after one month I managed to create a WeChat account. It was a long ride. First I couldn't access my account from 10 years ago due to inactivity: it needed me to create a new account. Turns out that it gave me an error "unstable connection" which was just a lie, despite getting through all the security stuff; eventually, I tried (again) with my other number and it worked
in Australia FB messenger is still the top messaging app amongst millenials (and has been for like 15 yrs) but I think but Europe likes Whatsapp much more from what I've seen. china uses WeChat and Japan uses Line. I can't remember what Americans like
But I couldn't add anyone, so I had to ask to people in China to scan my QR code
I'm still on IRC
Indefeatable application
@Slereah 2 kewl 4 skewl
10:39
@qwerty Of course we prefer WA, but the enlightned ones prefer Telegram
@HerrFeinmann wait for real? I thought it was just the trumpists and antivaxxers on there
How do you know I'm not one? :P
JK
Telegram is more free, so it is true that it has more people doing illegal stuff, but as a messaging app it is superior to anything in any way
@ACuriousMind u told me to stop posting clickbait which is unreasonable because the content of the video barely has anything to do with the title bait. this channel has many established researchers coming over
i am posting these in a way that the title doesn't show
It had voice videomessages way before Whatsapp did. You can delete your messages in private conversations anytime: you can even delete the other person's messages (for them too). You can have voice chats in groups, you could edit messages way before than you could on Whatsapp
You can save and create sticker packs, unlike whatsapp that only lets you save your own and you can not migrate them to another phone. No messaging app is a good as telegram with gifs :P
And cherry on the top, you can have it on multiple devices at the same time without any problem and the messages are stored in their servers so no useless backups are needed
@RyderRude Let me make it clear: I'm telling you to not post videos from that channel here. I've made my stance on channels like this clear before and I will not let you continue to try to direct people to this channel who's at best an amoral content factory and at worst an active grifter.
@HerrFeinmann why are you acting as if voice messages are a good thing :P
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10:51
Because I'm totally a voice message guy and now I know you are not
Only through voice messages my true self will come out!
I either want to read your messages asynchronously or I want to talk to you synchronously, voice messages are the worst of both worlds!
depends. it can be annoying to type a long message. and receiving voice messages can be fine, too, because one can put them on 2x speed hehe
@ACuriousMind u are being authoritarian. i specifically only post the videos that are not questionable. i have posted videos from Lee Smolin and bolbteppa posted two from Susskind and other string theory researchers.
i also think the chat members should decide this
I stand by the @ACuriousMind dictatorship
May his reign be brutal but just
@RyderRude Yes, I am literally exercising my authority as a moderator and room owner to tell you what not to do. As I said, this is not negotiable.
@ACuriousMind This is the reason
but I don't use them regularly anyway
i leave it to the users to protest these rules
@ACuriousMind i will stop posting videos from this channel then
finally asked the question, which some replied here but I didn't understand; linking it in case it's better explained physics.stackexchange.com/questions/840116/…
"but I didn't understand"
10:59
@ACuriousMind a true generation gap moment xD
why don't you ask for clarification in a comment under an answer then?
@HerrFeinmann I'm not sure if you mean you sound like that and it's cool and therefore you like voice messages or if you mean I sound like that and need to hide that and therefore don't like voice messages :P
I didn't understand the replies here in the chat is what I meant, what do you mean with the quotes? @TobiasFünke
@ACuriousMind The first. The voice message is the expression of "I talk, you listen". If they miss something, they listen to it again!
yeah, that's the annoying part!
11:03
ah, sorry, I misunderstood @misternobody
I thought you did not understand the answers there, and now ask for clarification here. Sorry
no problem, the reason i didn't ask for more details here is because either i was told i was an idiot or the question was unclear or etc
(or bc it just takes over the chat for a single person)
the answer by the doomsday clock seems pretty good to me
i think he will need an update soon XD (not funny though)
@ACuriousMind My way to go is that I only use voice notes with people I know are okay with them and use them too
Or, the other situation is if someone asks for my help, so they can't complain
11:42
And when I thought I hated BCS, junctions come into play
has any of you carried out joules experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_(thermodynamics)#/media/File:Joule's_Apparatus_(Harper's_Scan).png
 
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In theoretical physics, Whitehead's theory of gravitation was introduced by the mathematician and philosopher Alfred North Whitehead in 1922. While never broadly accepted, at one time it was a scientifically plausible alternative to general relativity. However, after further experimental and theoretical consideration, the theory is now generally regarded as obsolete. == Principal features == Whitehead developed his theory of gravitation by considering how the world line of a particle is affected by those of nearby particles. He arrived at an expression for what he called the "potential impetus...
hi
Curse the morning
Do you guys work through technical details in a paper you read?
@SillyGoose depends on why I'm reading it
If you're lazy just remember the order of reading for a quick look over
Abstract, skim equations, conclusion
13:53
Also can the cauchy riemann eqns be interpreted as a statement about curvature
Hi Allie, Hi Goose
@SillyGoose interesting
i think the complex plane does not have a metric
nvm it does
it is the complex norm
absolute value?!
13:55
to my understanding you dont really need a metric anyway to talk about curvature
Well nevermind
oh. Do you mean it in the sense of a connection?
@RyderRude this is the only notion of curvature i know. But it always shows up on a manifold so i guess a metric is involved
@SillyGoose Why curvature? In Riemannian geometry terms, the C-R equations are the equations for a function to be conformal (w.r.t. the standard Euclidean metric on $\mathbb{R}^2\cong\mathbb{C}$)
@SillyGoose one can define a connection without a metric
but I don't understand in what sense can the C R eqns be related to some connection
maybe u mean to work in a complex manifold?
the complex plane is a special case of a complex manifold
@ACuriousMind well i guess it just looks kind of suggestive to me since C-R is of the form $\partial_\mu f_\nu - \partial_\nu f_\mu = 0$
14:00
hiya tobias :3
although, incidentally i did literally just last night watch a lecture that motivates why such functions correspond to conformal transformations on $R^{(2,0)} (= \mathbb{R}^2)$
or i mean i guess: could we also say that conformal transformations on $R^2$ are (in correspondence with) flat connections?
@SillyGoose No, they're not
the minus sign in the second C-R equation is not that
oh i see
hm well then my question is if there is a useful operation $\partial_i f_j + (-1)^r \partial_j f_i$
If you want to phrase this in terms of forms, it's the form $f_\text{CR} = f_y \mathrm{d}x + f_x \mathrm{d}y$ that is closed and coclosed (=harmonic), not the naive form $f_x\mathrm{d}x + f_y\mathrm{d}y$ you might want to associate to a two-component vector.
where $r$ can be some integer dependent on $j$ perhaps
14:05
then you can write the C-R equations as $\mathrm{d}f_\text{CR} = 0$ and $\delta f_\text{CR} = 0$
@SillyGoose see above; the standard treatment is to change the form you are considering, not the operation
sorry what is $\delta$?
oh
is it true that infinite-dimensional lie algebras cannot be exponentiated into a Lie group?
@SillyGoose It's an ill-defined statement with unless you say exactly what notion of infinite-dimensional manifold you're using
meow
14:11
hm well i guess my question is: in physics is there actually a reason to give preference to the Lie algebra over the Lie group?
see e.g. Schottenloher's book on CFT for a discussion of the existence of "the Lie group" associated with the Virasoro algebra
is it the springer lecture notes?
it's on his website for free :P
ooh a chapter on bargmann's theorem
i own one of their other books lol :P
can a finite-dimensional quantum system have infinite symmetries? where a symmetry $S$ is $[H, S] = 0$? By a heuristic-ey argument, the number of conserved quantities should go like $\sum_i n_i^2$ where $n_i$ is the degeneracy of hamiltonian eigenvalues. so, i would think the answer is absolutely not.
i mean not counting "trivial" reproductions of symmetries, i.e., scalar multiples of old symmetries and etc.
14:28
@SillyGoose The largest symmetry algebra possible is obviously $\mathfrak{gl}(H)$ ($H$ the Hilbert space), which is achieved by choosing the Hamiltonian as the identity.
i see
also is there any use in talking about "almost-symmetries" $S'$ such that $[H, S'] = \epsilon$ where $\epsilon$ is small? can one obtain "perturbative solutions" via way of using "almost-symmetries" to produce quantum numbers and etc.
what do you think :P
(hint: if ACM says "what do you think :P", it means "hell yeah")
oh no i was about to say (something equivalent to) hell no XD
(hint2: don't trust me, I don't know almost symmetries)
14:36
naively, $\partial_t S'_H \sim i[H, S'_H] = i\epsilon \implies S'_H = \langle S'_H(0) \rangle e^{-it\epsilon}$, and a complex exponential doesn't really care if $\epsilon$ is small.
but i might be using a wrong definition of an almost-symmetry
also is there a name for when a number operator is a projector?
the case i encountered is for a spin-1/2 chain. the number operator is $ \sum_j \sigma_+^{(j)}\sigma_-^{(j)}$ where $j$ refers to the lattice site (different lattice sites have commuting $su(2)$ algebras).
but this seems particular to the 2-dim rep of su(2) because it crucially relies on the involutary nature of the paulis
or more physically, it crucially relies on the fact that each system can only house one or zero "particles"
does anyone have a good note on renormalization?
i am thinking it might be best to understand abstracted out of the messy sea of qft...but im not sure
15:41
A lot of symmetries are quasisymmetries
solid bodies aren't actually homogeneous!
and neither is the universe
after Hegel finished his book, he described himself as no longer a "lover of wisdom" but as someone who was "already wise". he believed he had completely finished the subject
this is in reference to the book "Phenomenology of Spirit". Hegel stopped calling himself a philosopher after this. another philosopher named Shelling stopped talking to Hegel after this book
16:05
@RyderRude Do you have any source at all for this? Where does the phrase "already wise" occur in the Phenomenology of Spirit? Where does Hegel "stop calling himself a philosopher"?
Also the other philosopher who disliked him after the phenomenology is called Schelling, but there is no indication that they "stopped talking", they just became critical of each others' work instead of friends.
@ACuriousMind it is from the same video i had posted today. the guest there goes over this
@ACuriousMind i think it needs not occur in the book itself. but he is talking about Hegel's attitude irl after writing that book
@ACuriousMind they stopped talking for 20 years according to the guest
but he also says that this may have had other reasons. there is not evidence for huge beef between Hegel and Schelling, except that Hegel once called Schelling's followers stupid
Oh, so your idea of stopping to bring up that channel is just to quote from it.
The purpose of a rule is not that you try to skirt it as much as you can while not literally violating it.
can someone let me know if i'm being annoying with the comments to an answer?
the question is: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/840116/…, but i think some formulas are not correctly explained in the best answer (by doomsday clock)
i am not trying to discuss the channel itself, but more like the ideas the guest discusses. the ideas do not belong to the channel
@RyderRude Then you should be able to find actual academic sources backing up your claims, or, y'know, actually citing Hegel when you claim Hegel describes himself as something.
16:19
(i mean unreasonable more than annoying)
@ACuriousMind i just googled this quote and what shows up is someone else's quote on Hegel about him claiming to have found absolute wisdom at the end of his book. maybe this is an actual claim of Hegel or maybe this is other peoples' interpretation of his attitude in the book
@RyderRude So why do you just state these things as fact if you can't even tell yourself if this is actually what Hegel said or only what other people interpret him as? Why is the burden on everyone else to try to decipher which of the random things you say are true, which are speculation and which are just blindly believing the one source you have listened to?
@misternobody I don't think they're unreasonable but keep in mind that SE works best with clear questions that can have clear answers - if you find yourself wanting an answer to explain more and more, often it is more useful if you just ask a seperate question about the specific thing you want to know more about instead of trying to get one answer that clears up all your confusions.
i tried being more specific and got worse answers earlier (maybe it wasn't clear either.) but thanks a lot for the feedback
@ACuriousMind i think you put a far too high standard on any comment that gets made here (especially on any comment I make). why do I need to have sources for everything I say? why can't i trust someone in academia who has studied this?
specially after ACM trusted a random letter XD sorry had to say it
16:26
i googled the guest. he seems reputable
The last comment from the author of the answer indicates that he perceives you a bit as moving the goalposts (i.e. you asked one thing, he answered it, and now you ask him a different thing in the comments). I don't have a strong opinion on whether he's right, but if this happens, a seperate question that's more specific is often useful
@Slereah careful, "quasi-symmetry" as a word is already taken :P
Yeah, I understand that, so I reduced the requirements just to get it accepted, since he did put effort.
Hemisemidemi symmetry
he is a professor in California institute of integral studies. And he has studied the works of these people. he is merely commenting on them
Maybe I should just accept in a few hours
I would like to note that a mathematical derivation can't have random formulas popping in (like the differential dV)
16:29
it's normal to wait a bit with acceptance if you aren't fully satisfied with any answer (or just need to think about the answers you've gotten)
the other answers are bad imho
@SillyGoose You should consider that this is already the 99% case in perturbation theory: If you have $H = H_0 + \epsilon H_p$, it's extremely common that $H_0$ has symmetries that $H_p$ does not, and so $[H,S] = \epsilon [H_p,S]$ for symmetries $S$ of the unperturbed Hamiltonian $H_0$
hm but now i am running into a contradiction it seems. if i just directly compute $S_\text{heis}(t)$, for an almost-symmetry, I get that $S_\text{heis}(t) = (\mathbb{I} - it\epsilon) S$, which is not hermitian. so i guess i must be doing something wrong...
unless $\epsilon$ is pure imaginary
@SillyGoose What is $S_\text{heis}(t)$ and how are you computing it?
$S_\text{heis}(t) := e^{-itH}Se^{itH} = \exp(-it \text{ad}_H)S$
16:40
also note that the commutator of two self-adjoint operators is skew-self-adjoint, i.e. $\mathrm{i}[A,B]$ is self-adjoint. So if you have $[A,B]=\epsilon$, then indeed $\epsilon$ is purely imaginary if $A$ and $B$ are self-adjoint
right i guess that constraint i was missing
it is like $[x, p] \sim i$
well i mean the above is even a proof of the fact that $\epsilon$ must be pure imaginary
since unitary conjugation leaves a hermitian thing hermitian
but i mean this seemingly leads to all sorts of bizarre consequences
$S(t) = (1 + \epsilon t) S(0)$ (dropping the heisenberg subscript now).
I mean have you considered that this commutation relation is impossible on finite-dimensional spaces :P
the CCR can famously only be represented on infinite-dimensional spaces
Hence, $\langle S(t) \rangle = (1 + \epsilon t) \langle S(0) \rangle$, which is unbounded from above
well i guess i didn't mean to constrain myself so strongly. i guess i should allow $[H, S] = \epsilon A$ where $A$ is some matrix such that $\lvert \lvert \epsilon A \lvert \lvert << \lvert \lvert H \lvert \lvert$ or something
well it seems like nilpotency + pure imaginary argument of the exponential leads to unboundedness from above
but i mean you cannot have nilpotency and non-pure imaginary argument of the exponential seemingly. heuristically if you had such a situation, then the time evolved operator would not be hermitian
I'm not really sure what you're trying to do here
well i am curious about what a simple physical model of an almost-symmetry would be
16:50
any of the simple perturbation theory examples where $H_0$ is spherically symmetric but $H_p$ isn't
17:02
hi girls
17:20
hi
There's a whole field of cosmology which is about the fact that homogeneity is only an approximate symmetry
18:08
It's not so surprising, should it?
yeah but you still have to figure out what happens
 
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Flantasy flan...
20:35
On January 28th, the Bulletin's Science and Security Board (SASB) will reveal the 2025 Doomsday Clock time in Washington, DC.
What's your guess? In seconds.
21:17
They won't do it
DC will have been nuked
21:47
I think it will move up, maybe 3 s
Bc of possible iran-us, and russia-us escalations. Iran is still enriching uranium,..apparently.
Maybe more than 3, like 5-8
 
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@naturallyInconsistent I want to rephrase a question i asked a few days ago--so the individual components of mixed states do not interfere, is what I meant, I suppose. While in a superposition of states you have interference. Is that correct?
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