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@FakeMod did you notice that I used two 's's for disappointment? Wonder why I did that. (Just ignore it, please)
 
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02:12
It's great to be able to see the sunshine when getting up every morning. When in a room where there is no window straightforward directing to the outdoor, I can't see the sunshine day or night and feel like being in a dungeon making me feel somewhat depressed.
03:06
excuse me what
changes to a numpy array apply to everything previously assigned to that array?
spent an hour trying to figure out what was wrong with my code, who would expect that
Yes "=" goes bothways..really makes things difficult in Python...
and this happens for many other objects other than numpy arrays too
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Q: How does python assign values after assignment operator

qwertpOkay a very silly question I'm sure. But how does python assign value to variables? Say there is a variable a and is assigned the value a=2. So python assigns a memory location to the variable and a now points to the memory location that contains the value 2. Now, if I assign a variable b=a the ...

@ManasDogra whaaaaa....
happens for python list appending too :)

only way I saw to get around this is using deepcopy
03:22
why can't this language just be normal
@SirCumference ask Rossum :p
thanks for the link tho, good to know
@SirCumference code for what you supposedly wanted to achieve
Is that python? Ewww
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow why "Ewww"?
03:38
@ManasDogra Because I only learned cpp and not python πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ so I don't understand it.
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yo coolio
@abhas_RewCie sup{}
@abhas_RewCie have you search 1s1k hunter in yt?
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow No bro... I searched youtube in youtube and twitter in youtube
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow I don't like music
03:47
@abhas_RewCie But hunter1s1k is also in youtube so search it in youtube then you go to youtube to search after you search on youtube then you search it okay
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow I searched Youtube for youtube to find hunter1s1k on youtube, but searching hunter1s1k on youtube lead be to even bigger youtube
@abhas_RewCie I have a feeling that whenever you talk in chat I hear him talkin by screaming.
@abhas_RewCie Then how you lead it to smaller youtube? Have you find any bound of youtube or is it boundless?
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow No, I'm silent
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow Youtube is boundless when you have smaller youtube and bigger youtube together, but I only have smaller youtube, I don't give a damn to bigger youtube, because there is a youtube inside youtube that can youtube upto the youtube of the youtube youtube youtube youtube youtube
@abhas_RewCie abhas he has read entire bible in 9 hour without formally reading it.
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow coolio
03:53
@abhas_RewCie I said where is sup youtube and inf youtube search for it. I know youtube can create youtube where youtube is in youtube and all of it in single YouTube that goest to infinite youtube but in order to prove it is infinite we need to prove it is not bounded by a large or small youtube even you watching youtube there is youtube outside your frame of observation.
Susan Wojcicki is a true loop genius.
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow The frame of observation is infinite, see youtube when youtube is of the bigger or inf bounded condition youtube is the youtube best youtube o youtub o youtube coolio youtube coolio youtube
@abhas_RewCie what kind of frame is youtube? It is really becoming abstract.
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow It's rounda
@abhas_RewCie I have a conjecture that says youtube has uncountable sets of frame.
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow I've a even better conjecture that says that youtube has countable sets of frame
03:59
@abhas_RewCie I'd contradict your conjecture!
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow I'd contradict yours
@abhas_RewCie Then there is no cases left. So we need to define something that is uncountable and countable at same time.
It is similar to schrodinger cat.
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow No. We can assume it's true, rest is okay
@abhas_RewCie May be it has conditions of outcome! I can't believe in every outcome is uncountable and countable at same time.
Yes it has condition.
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow Nof
04:10
The condition was already held when we contradict each other.
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow no
@abhas_RewCie y,x,z?
@WhyWhatWhereWhenHow x, y, z, t
xxx
yyy
zzz
ttt
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05:46
Page 35 :- atomic spectral lines have discrete energy values.
Page 251 :- nooooooo. How can they be infinitely sharp, they have a width whyy ? due to **Heisenberg**
** Uncertainty Principle**

$\delta E \cdot \delta t \leq \frac{h}{4 \pi}$
Wondering why formatting doesn't work?
Hint: Don't use Shift+enter
of course I am
let's try you suggestion on strikethrough
---this time I'll use shift enter---
no it doesn't
@GuruVishnu very nice suggestion
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Yo! I asked my first question.
06:37
@JohnRennie hi
@Yuvraj hi :-)
07:01
@JohnRennie Hello
@abhas_RewCie hi :-)
@JohnRennie I asked you for a formula...
Angle of deviation of ray of light in curved spacetime
Light deflection in a gravitational field.
For light passing a black hole?
I tried searching for it, but didn't find
Or any massive body?
07:04
@JohnRennie No, not blackhole, just general
@JohnRennie general formula that can work for blackhole, massive body and normal body
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A: Bending of light - photon's inertia instead of mass

John RennieIn Newtonian gravity the acceleration due to gravity is independant of the mass of the object - a falling elephant accelerates downwards at the same speed as an accelerating gnat (ignoring air resistance). That means the orbit of an object does not depend on the object's mass (provided the object...

Also:
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A: How can gravity affect light?

John RennieNewton's law does predict the bending of light. However it predicts a value that is a factor of two smaller than actually observed. The Newtonian equation for gravity produces a force: $$ F = \frac{GMm}{r^2} $$ so the acceleration of the smaller mass, $m$, is: $$ a = \frac{F}{m} = \frac{GM}{r...

@abhas_RewCie Were you asking where it is in a book?
contradicting to what einstein believe
@JohnRennie yes
I want to see how it was derived
What GR books have you got?
@JohnRennie Schutz
07:08
Let me dig out my copy of Schutz ...
p293 in my edition
@JohnRennie Oh okay, I'll find that
@JohnRennie Thanks :)
I need to work now for a bit. Back later ...
07:59
the weather is so hot that walking outdoors feels like being broiled.
08:14
@Yuvraj @FakeMod have you guys solved Irodov ?
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08:38
@MadameAkira I have solved 90% of Mechanics (excluding SR), and a bit (20%) of Electromagnetism and about 50% of Waves and Oscillations.
Hi all, I came across a complex vector field $\mathbb R^3\to\mathbb C^3$ with an imaginary part with zero divergence and real part with zero curl. I wanted to ask if anyone knows any other such fields and what other properties to expect from that or where such things else naturally could occur.
@FakeMod the electromagnetism is not differential right ?
I mean I have never read it so I am not sure to what extent it covers electromagnetism.
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@MadameAkira You can solve it using both the forms. Though Irodov (Arihant version) has mentioned only the point form of Maxwell's equations in the short theory section preceding the questions...
@MadameAkira yes not all but electrodynamics and mechanics
@FakeMod hmmm
@Yuvraj you're in IIT right ? for engineering or physics ?
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08:49
:54400064 which branch?
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@Yuvraj oh, nice :)
@Rudi_Birnbaum That's what the "Faraday field" $F = E + \mathrm{i}B$ is when there's no magnetic field
But of course the proper formulation of combining $E$ and $B$ into a single object is to use the EM tensor, not this (decidedly not covariant!) construction. I've seen it in some places, though
In general, complex vector fields in physics will often be of this type of being combined from two real fields, since we measure real, not complex, numbers with most measurement devices, so it is unnatural for a (classical) physically relevant quantity to be complex-valued
09:04
@ACuriousMind hi
It's just representation which makes working and visualizing functions
09:18
How is the image projected not too close for the user too see?
I'm was wondering the same for other AR devices
(Google Glass?)
For example, on the Hololens 2, isn't the projected image too close to the person's eyes and therefore blurred and hard to focus on?
@JingleBells When you focus on something in a well-projected 3d image (VR or not), you focus on the apparent distance of the object in the image, not on where the screen is.
@JingleBells the optics create a virtual image at a reasonable distanec from you.
10:22
How can I see here that the right matrix $L$ is a Lorentz boost?
That $\epsilon$ stands for time reversal, and $Q$ for spatial rotations, is clear
Also, I'm unsure of the mathematical definition of a Lorentz boost. But I'm guessing it's just boosting a frame with a velocity in a fixed direction (for all boosts)
10:47
@ACuriousMind Thanks a lot, that is very interesting. I came across that when looking at the quantum mechanical "mechanical momentum density" of an electron in the magnetic field. The imaginary part is essentially the electrons current density, that is divergence free. But then there is this "odd" real part, that I fail to understand/give an interpretation to. Its curl-free and contains for example the gradient of the electron density. In non-spin zero cases its contains also some spin terms.
@ACuriousMind would you have any idea what that might be?
@ShaVuklia Apply $L$ to a vector $(t,x,y,z)$ and observe that it transforms the coordinates like a boost would do. Otherwise take this as the definition of a boost.
@Rudi_Birnbaum Why would a momentum density be complex and not real?
Are you just talking about the wavefunction in momentum space?
The Quantum mechanical momentum density is complex in general.
$\psi^*\hat{\pi}\psi$
And $\pi$ is just the momentum operator?
with $\hat{\pi}=\hat{p}-A$
no
its the "mechanical momentum" in the the magnetic field
but what is that supposed to be?
10:54
$A$ the vectir potential
i.e. what physical relevance do you think this term has?
this is called "mechanical momentum density"
and its used to define the probablility current density
$J=\Im\{\psi^*\hat{\pi}\psi\}$
some call it also "kinetic momentum density"
and I have heared the name "kinematic" as well
I have never had any reason to worry about this quantity at all, I'm afraid
so I can't tell you anything about it, sorry
Well I am not really worrying. but since $\hat{\pi}$ is a good old gauge independent operator, there is no reason not to regard its density distribution
OK but thanks that Faraday density thing is already quite helpful
Is it possible that its something about "forces"
?
like virtual forces?
there aren't really any forces in QM
11:02
:-(
@ACuriousMind do you recognise this instantly as a Lorentz boost?
this is a general expression I found on stack
I am willing to believe that if one does the calculations, it turns out alright
but
hm, I'm a bit scared to just claim it's true without checking it (but the calculation seems aweful)
@ShaVuklia No. Note also that (I think) the "velocity" $\lambda$ in that expression is really a rapidity
12:09
@ShaVuklia quora.com/…
12:38
@bolbteppa A thanks, might have a look at that later!
13:04
@ShaVuklia What is lorentz boost?
13:28
@SirCumference That's because of how name binding works in Python. It can be confusing if you've already done some coding in languages that use a different data model. There's a great article about this: nedbatchelder.com/text/names.html
That link's in a comment on the page linked by Manas, but I reposted it here, just in case you missed it. ;) For a TL;DR see here
@SirCumference I should also mention that assignment operators, eg += can be a little surprising when operating on mutable objects, so if foo and bar are (the names of) lists, foo += bar extends the existing list bound to the name foo, but foo = foo + bar creates a new list, and binds that to foo.
@MadameAkira Completed, (Including QM)
:-P
But, QM not full.... (around 60% of part), will take a shot on SR Part
14:12
@FakeMod Zinda hai ki marr gya?
@ACuriousMind so it's like those 3d spoons on paper we see ?
@abhas_RewCie keep bluffing :-p
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@abhas_RewCie Main Schrodinger's Mod hu...
@MadameAkira I'll do more... I'm getting bored :P
@FakeMod Glad you told me, I need a microscope to see your profile clearly
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@MadameAkira I eat all my meals on one of those...
@abhas_RewCie English, please.
14:17
@ACuriousMind sorry...
@MadameAkira I don't know any 3d spoons, I'm afraid
translation: alive or dead?
@ACuriousMind Have you ever been to China before?
Before what?
I'm not in China now, either!
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@ACuriousMind before he asked you :P
@ACuriousMind before this text?
@FakeMod Wanna take a course on bathroom singing?
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14:20
@abhas_RewCie I am a pro...
@FakeMod Have you recorded before?
@MadameAkira There is nothing worth reading anyway
@FakeMod, is there anything like close flag?
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@abhas_RewCie who the heck records bathroom singing man!!!
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@Krishna what?
@FakeMod Parallel lines have so much in common. It's a shame that they never meet...
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14:21
@Krishna What? I think there are much more things worth reading than one could ever reasonably read in a lifetime!
@Fakemod, when did I talk about bathroom singing?
@ACuriousMind I was talking about Fakemod's profile picture
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@Krishna oh, I un-pinged you
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@abhas_RewCie they do meet in private, don't you know? :D
14:23
@FakeMod lol...
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@ACuriousMind yo, ACM! How's life?
By the way, as I asked, is there any close flag?
It...lives.
@ACuriousMind How not to get bored in lockdown?
@Krishna If you add enough context so that we know what you want to flag to close, you might get an answer to that :P
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14:25
@ACuriousMind Nice
No, I was just asking. There is a deletion flag, so I imagined...
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@Krishna are you talking about answers?
Do you mean on the main site or in chat? On questions or on answers?
Questions
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@ACuriousMind I have raised 0 flags in chat :(
14:26
Main site
Sure, if you have less than 3k reputation, you should be able to raise a flag suggesting to close a question. Can't you see it in the flag dialog?
@FakeMod Why would you be sad about that?
user434058
@Krishna there is no flag for deletion... There is a flag for "not suitable" and "needs clarity" and "needs focus" and "duplicate" allo of which result in a closure...
I'd take it as a good sign that you haven't encountered anything flagworthy in chat, since that's usually rather unpleasant.
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@ACuriousMind sad about the fact that I haven't yet tried that out...
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@ACuriousMind yeah, I know. Let's drop this.
14:29
Again, please do not discuss piracy sites explicitly here.
which liberary?
library
@ACuriousMind ok
@ACuriousMind quick tho
I was not aware that it is pirated site
14:30
@ACuriousMind It is a pirated website?
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@ACuriousMind alright.
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@abhas_RewCie yes
@abhas_RewCie @ACuriousMind without disclosing the name ,can you say?
@FakeMod Ah okay... Home page had it...
@Yuvraj As a general rule, any site that allows you to download copyrighted media for free is very likely to not be legally allowed to do that.
14:31
@Yuvraj I use archive.org, it's fully legal with lic on each book you see, usually CC if they have purchased copyrights
@ACuriousMind archive too?
what should i do i have downloaded some books @abhas_RewCie
@ACuriousMind those youtube video with people drawing spoons on paper with specific shading in diff. areas just to make them look if there was an actual spoon on the paper.
@abhas_RewCie Archive usually only offers material that's in the public domain or otherwise legal to be offered.
no idea
@abhas_RewCie ?
14:34
@Yuvraj you are in your bachelors and still don't know sites to get books without buying them ? I ain't buying this.
@MadameAkira I don't spend my life on youtube and therefore have no idea what you're talking about :P
@Yuvraj no idea, never tried that website, so delete after reading them
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@MadameAkira meh, I wasn't talking bout that...
@ACuriousMind yes your REP speaks for itself.
@ACuriousMind Your childhood was not awesome :P
14:35
@MadameAkira i never visited such site before we usually use the library for books, lockdown make me stuck
@abhas_RewCie delete?
what?
@Yuvraj first read and complete the book, then delete it
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BTW, I just notice that the "Trash" chatroom is a gold-mine of entertaining messages :P
if you've downloaded
@abhas_RewCie It was pretty awesome, actually.
@FakeMod same here
@ACuriousMind How?
did you ever hard friends?
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14:36
@abhas_RewCie he played video games
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@abhas_RewCie wot?
@abhas_RewCie it will take some days to finish them off
Given past experience of talking with you about my personal life, I'm not really interested in going into detail.
Ah, Neither I
@abhas_RewCie actually site has millions of books
14:38
Ah, I see it, thanks
@Yuvraj aarey! Read, enjoy, complete then delete, is that too hard to understand?
@FakeMod had*
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Now it's of no use
@abhas_RewCie means not to forward them
@Yuvraj Okay
@Yuvraj yes
Was that deleted?
yes
Good then
14:40
and i made images do you want to see them
warmhole?
@abhas_RewCie
@Yuvraj Okay, I'll see later.
Bye
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@Yuvraj how did you do it?
@FakeMod what?
user434058
@Yuvraj how did you create the image of a wormhole?
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Software?
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14:42
Code?
user434058
How?
just a rough sktech
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@Yuvraj ah, ok.
A chemistry question: Which coloured IUPAC book is meant for nomenclature rules? I know gold book is for terminologies.
Blue, red, green or something else?
Especially I'm looking for nomenclature of coordination compounds.
Or if anyone knows: Which is the recommended IUPAC name for the ligand (NH2 CH3) - 'methylammine' or 'methanamine'?
15:02
@GuruVishnu red
"methylamine" if you mean something like dichloridobis(methylamine)copper(II)
Fine. That was my choice too. My book said used "methanamine" and that's why I got confused. A small clarification, shouldn't we use "ammine" instead of "amine"?
That was for the complex - [Pt(NH3)2Cl(NH2CH3)]Cl (book's name: Diamminechlorido(methanamine)platinum(II) chloride) whereas I took (methylammine).
The weather is so hot, even at night 11 pm.
30 C indoors. don't know the air temperature outdoors.
@GuruVishnu The Red Book also has diamminechlorido(methanamine)platinum(II) chloride
It's not clear in the Red Book when they use methanamine or methylamine. Both were correct names in organic chemistry when the Red Book was printed.
Later, however, the Blue Book clarified that methanamine is preferred. But that's for the organic compound, not necessarily for the ligand.
15:18
Ok. Got it. It was in the page 164 (here). I thought for NH3 they used "mm" instead of "m" so expected the same here. It seems it doesn't matter.
Thank you very much for your help :-)
Yes, the mm is only used for NH3 ligands.
Ok :-)
@GuruVishnu You also might want to get this one: doi.org/10.1515/pac-2014-0718
@CaptainBohemian it is almost 47 in day
and in night 35
feel like burning always
@Yuvraj I feel like to eat two bowls of ice within a day.
15:25
indeed
we face a huge scarcity of groundwater during these months , which make us understand the value of each water drop
@CaptainBohemian extreme summer is always harsh to spend
@user7951 Thank you for sharing. I like the brief version in particular. It's just 4 pages and it'll definitely be helpful :-)
@Yuvraj I think we don't lack water. What most people lack is probably money.
lol;'
15:40
water is mostly free when you rent a house
you can get as much water as you like to drink from water machine freely.
16:16
@ACuriousMind What do you mean?
Why for a bound orbit is $\frac{du}{d\psi} = 0$ where $u=1/r$ and $\psi$ is the angle?
@JohnRennie What do you mean? The Google Glass and some other AR devices seem to put the image pretty close to your eyes
Oh never mind
It's just really bad wording I think
It specifically means at the apoapsis and periapsis
@aaronstevens Why the hate for Ve?
@BioPhysicist
16:43
@JakeRose It just doesn't make much sense to me. If you're going to try and abbreviate things, why not just do "+" and "-"? Also, "+" isn't "positi" and "-" isn't "negati".
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@BioPhysicist I am waiting for your post on Meta. I didn't star that message for nothing :P
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It seems like @Loong also anonymized himself (though he was already anonymous, but now he's even more anonymous...)
17:05
Good afternoon from the Sicily island everybody into chat. My question
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Q: How can I calculate the emf-induced with a non-planar surface?

SebastianoJust this question is only for me because I have given any clarifications on the Faraday-Neumann-Lenz for my students of an high school. We know that the magnetic flux, where $\:S$ is a regolar surface, (with all the hypotesis of regularity, $B\in\mathcal C^1$, etc.), is given by the formula: ...

is coherent in Math.SE or in Physics.SE?
@BioPhysicist I quite regularly use them. For me a simple '+' is more likely to get confused with an operation. Where '+Ve" is a good way of showing theres no operation.
There's no way to get the solution without a $\Phi$ term is there?
17:35
@JingleBells When you focus on something in an image, your eyes focus at the distance of the virtual image of that thing, not on the distance of the screen
17:51
@JakeRose ... would very much as an instructor like to know the source of this problem/question
18:10
@ZeroTheHero wdym?
18:48
@JakeRose well this looks like a textbook problem or a problem from some lecture notes or something. I'm kinda curious as I'm always on the look-out for sources of problems.
@ZeroTheHero p.8
@ACuriousMind Sure but the virtual image can't be that far, can it? I mean, it's basically the display rotated 90 degrees?
19:12
@bolbteppa Thanks
@JingleBells why would it be rotated? Have you read e.g. the mirror example in the Wiki article I linked?
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Q: Why is this question actually off topic, how should it be modified so it is reopened?

frogeyedpeasI had asked: A game of boxes with rotating gears which was closed due to it being a "homework/check-my-work" question. The question is NOT homework, it's an original question I had come up with. Moreover the question itself isn't "check my work" since part it is completely unclear to me how to a...

@ACuriousMind I don't mean rotated, look at the image I posted
As far as my intuition goes, this is what the user should see (the virtual image)
@JingleBells I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that "the image" should be there
@ACuriousMind Yeah, me too. I'll watch some vids on virtual images and optics and come back.
You can't conclude where the virtual image is just from the geometry of the screen
What's wrong with the image I posted? I've done the experiment with a phone and plexiglass and it reflects and it's like a hologram
19:40
Where the virtual image of "things" from a digital display is depends entirely on how the display emits the light. If it emits the diverging light rays at the right angle, the virtual image can be kilometers away
@JingleBells What experiment? This isn't about how the non-active screen reflects light, it about how it emits the light when it's turned on.
Oh, so on the picture I sent, the reflective glass is actually bent which makes the image appear further?
it acts as a lens, not a flat surface?
I don't know what technique these glasses actually use to achieve a distant virtual image, but yes, that's one possibility.
This is what I was talking about
I've actually tried a holo-lens along with some building model software. It was pretty cool. They had this cool thing where you could overlay models over what you were actually seeing and match it to your location, like for construction it could show you approximately where stuff went, based on 3D models, while you were walking around an unfinished building.
Random geometric symbol:
Looks like some kind of futuristic lab logo
something something accelerator quantum gravity research center
20:09
@JingleBells FWIW, there was a question about thus stuff a while ago, but unfortunately it still doesn't have an answer.
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Q: Can we use regular glasses with inlaid display to display images to a wearer?

DaveIditoObject (virtual) (distance: d) <---> Glass with some display + Human Eye Would it be possible to display something onto a regular glass covered with a display (preferably transparent) to give the viewer the illusion that there is an object at distance d? An example would be Augmented Realit...

20:42
What is a good introductory text that treats flat pseudo-Riemannian manifolds?
I only want to understand the basic notions so that I can read simple proofs about Minkowski spacetime (considered as a flat pseudo-Riemannian manifold)
basically I want to be able to follow this proof (here $M$ is Minkowski spacetime)
ah, I see Lee has written a book on Riemannian manifolds
 
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Q: Asking if the following post could be suitable for the main site Physics Stack Exchange

user250478I would like to ask if the following questions can be potentially interesting for the main site. The problem is that I've asked a similar question in past months (with an account now deleted) on the main site Physics Stack Exchange and was not well received (if I remember well I included some dis...

22:33
Greetings !@ACuriousMind
Today is my last time I am being online this week.
So goodbye for like 5 to 6 days!
23:23
Holy sht! No one in the history of humankind who is an autodidact has ever won nobel prize in physics or chemistry lol.
looks like there is no hope for any autodidacts in modern society.
Looks like there are less than 10 autodidact physicists on the earth alive right now. May be 0.

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