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1:34 AM
i got a hard question
what is the least effort way for strong mathbackground to get into QFT
 
 
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3:19 AM
Try the 6 core theories of modern physics by charles stevens
very concise and readable
 
 
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9:50 AM
Hey guys! I built the voltage multiplier with alternating square wave from a 555 timer as a source (which is measured 4.5V by my multimeter) but the voltage multiplier doesn't seem to work. I tried first making a voltage doubler and it showed 9V (which is correct I suppose) but when I try a quadrupler for example and the voltage starts from like 6V and starts to go down around 0.1V per second.
Oh! I found a mistake in my wiring and fixed it. Now it seems to show 12V and instantly starts to go down by 0.1V per sec.
It stops at about 7.3V
 
10:17 AM
Aug 16 at 9:54, by PM 2Ring
But you really should ask the people in Electrical Engineering. I just had a quick peek, and there was a recent conversation about voltage multipliers. I assume there are people there who've made high voltage stuff, like rail guns, which need a lot of current, so a low current circuit like yours should be simple for them.
So what did the guys in the EE chat say...
The voltage multiplier should be ok on a capacitive load. It will drop the voltage on a resistive load, as mentioned in various Electrical Engineering links on the topic. I assume you have thoroughly explored the links I have been posting for you...
A multimeter is basically an ammeter. To measure voltage, it puts a stable resistor into the circuit and measures the current running through it.
 
11:04 AM
hey hey
 
11:16 AM
Hi all! There is theorem that links the imaginary and the real part in a time dependent analytic function. I forgot its name. Its named after some dutch(?) scientist and is used in solid state physics, who can help?
Sorry I got it Kramer-Kronings....
 
Errr the Wick rotation?
 
no its really kramer-kronings
The Kramers–Kronig relations are bidirectional mathematical relations, connecting the real and imaginary parts of any complex function that is analytic in the upper half-plane. These relations are often used to calculate the real part from the imaginary part (or vice versa) of response functions in physical systems, because for stable systems, causality implies the analyticity condition, and conversely, analyticity implies causality of the corresponding stable physical system. The relation is named in honor of Ralph Kronig and Hans Kramers. In mathematics these relations are known under the names...
 
 
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1:52 PM
I have a weird question: The output on an astable multivibrator will be shown on a multimeter as half the input voltage (for example we have 9V-0V-9V-0V...and the multimeter averages it out and displays 4.5V). But then if I put that output to a voltage doubler, the voltage should be 18V, not 9V right? Since the voltage doubler will output in DC.
 
2:28 PM
I've tried hooking up a transformer (9V to 230V, 0.5A) to an astable multivibrator (which operates at 671Hz) but something starts to smell burnt and the components of the astable multivibrator get hot. How do I fix this? I check it after that and the astable multivibrator works.
 
 
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4:13 PM
bow chicka wow wow
 
what's up?
 
my AC won't turn off so I'm waiting to see if I can turn it off before I go to work lol...
 
have you tried pushing the "on/off" button? :P
 
indeed...
the controller makes a click but the AC is still on
hmmm...
I submitted a maintenance request and they said they fixed it but I guess they didn't really do anything
 
dunno...just trip the breaker? :P
 
4:24 PM
yeah I guess I could try that
oh it finally turned off lol
time to go to work...
 
logs into hacked IoT and turns AC back on again
That's the kind of trolling I'm worried about, the future with too many "smart" devices with no security
 
4:48 PM
@JMac at some point that goes from 'trolling' to cyber-terrorism/warfare/crime
 
@Semiclassical And I'm sure that point varies quite a bit between who the target is, who you ask, and how maliciously you're messing with stuff
 
right
plus there's a lot of room for unintended consequences of such
 
5:15 PM
@JMac But what if I want to be able to start my microwave while sitting on my couch?
 
@AaronStevens That's totally fine. You just have to accept that I might also be able to start your microwave while sitting on my couch.
totally a rational tradeoff. You can do whatever you want with my appliances as long as I can sit down for an extra 15 seconds.
 
@JMac BTW This chat about the propulsion system that violates physics laws is hilarious
 
EM drive stuff?
 
5:33 PM
I searched the whole god damn internet, asked every god damn forum and I can't find a single schematic that converts 9V DC to 1500V DC without using giant transformers and power stage devices that weight 1 billion tons....
something so "simple" turns out to be hard as duck
 
In peskin book of QFT the sum over zero point energy modes is an infinite c-number, fortunately, it's experimental evidence doesn't appear, since experimentalists measure the difference in energy from the ground state. According to my understanding the zro pt energy is the same as the ground state, isn't it?
If so, always it is possible to substract a finite number (higher exited state for e.g.) from this zero point enrgy (which is infinte), it follows that, experimentally we always obtain infinte spectrum.
Is it a misunderstaning statement?
 
@AaronStevens Yeah, I had a good laugh to myself when he responded back with "Yeah, maybe they considered it and it was just too complicated". I can't even be mad at people like that. They are clearly fairly new to physics and don't quite grasp yet that most "novel" ideas have been thought of to death by someone; likely 100+ years ago if it's classical physics
 
Which nonsense idea are we talking about?
 
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Q: Is it possible that this electromagnetic field propulsion system would not violate any conservation laws?

HRIATEXPI have recently come up with a design of a conceptual electromagntic field propulsion system which should not violate any conservation laws, particularly the Law of Conservation of Momentum and the Law of Conservation of Energy. In fact, this system should work in conjunction with these two laws ...

 
5:54 PM
@JMac Thanks for helping me in the forums. I decided to try reddit for a specific circuit, see what happens.
 
the sheer exasperation in comments of this question: math.stackexchange.com/q/3328970/137524
 
6:06 PM
@NovaliumCompany Reddit is pretty good for the type of stuff we would never touch here, since it's more discussion friendly. The quality may suffer, but there are tradeoffs everywhere
 
hmmm
 
@enumaris \o
 
sup
 
My head hurts, I've been working on the electronics all day, literally.
A simple question: I have this 2 mm sheet of plexiglass. How should I go about making a $1 cm^3$ container out of it?
 
maybe the EM waves are messing with u
2mm probably won't be enough material bro
I don't think plexiglass can be flattened like gold...hmmm
 
6:17 PM
xDD it's 2mm thin, it's 25x25 cm
 
cut out six 1 $\text{cm}^2$ faces and glue them together?
 
@NovaliumCompany Cut it into 6 1 cm x 1 cm sides...
damnit enumaris like 1 second before me
 
sniped
Mine is even latex'd
 
ikr, i don't even have a latex converter here and i could still tell i was shown up
 
@enumaris but you didn't latex the 1 so it looks odd
 
6:19 PM
$1~\text{cm}^2$
 
Actually, there's lots of ways to cut out 6 faces with that size and not end up with a closed container after gluing them :P
So @JMac was slightly more correct than you
 
1cm x 1cm can also describe a rhombus
or...if you are more free...any quadrilateral with 2 sides of 1cm
But I suppose his description is slightly more constrained than mine :P
 
@enumaris Yep, thought of that. I was just wondering if there was a better way. Luckily, I have a hot glue gun.
 
Mine could also be a circle of $1/\sqrt{\pi}~\text{cm}^2$ radius
wtf why is the squareroot so ugly
@NovaliumCompany a better way might be to hire someone to do it for you
then you don't even need to do the work
less work is strictly better than more work
 
6:39 PM
pet peeve: I make a comment about how to improve a question and they reply "but i still don't know what to do"
 
o.o
 
(in the sense of "I still don't know how to solve the problem" not "I don't know how to improve it")
 
My pet peeve is people who think hot dogs count as sandwiches
 
7:20 PM
you know
I rememeber that Gordon Freeman's thesis was "Observation of Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Entanglement on Supraquantum Structures by Induction Through Nonlinear Transuranic Crystal of Extremely Long Wavelength (ELW) Pulse from Mode-Locked Source Array "
Half Life predicted ER = EPR
 
Half Life 3 is taking so long because they first need to finish the Theory of Everything
 
7:40 PM
@ACuriousMind Did you watch the Kerbal Space Program 2 trailer?
 
not yet
 
The top comment is mine
and is about Half-Life 3
lucky me got 600 likes ;D
 
Hi all, anyone there with experience in applying the Kramers-Kroning theorem?
 
In peskin book of QFT the sum over zero point energy modes is an infinite c-number, fortunately, it's experimental evidence doesn't appear, since experimentalists measure the difference in energy from the ground state. According to my understanding the zro pt energy is the same as the ground state, isn't it?
If so, always it is possible to substract a finite number (higher exited state for e.g.) from this zero point enrgy (which is infinte), it follows that, experimentally we always obtain infinte spectrum.
 
@Student404Mus What do you mean by "infinite spectrum"?
In any case, in QFT without gravity, the vacuum energy is a renormalization parameter and has no physical meaning.
 
7:50 PM
@ACuriousMind the difference between each two levels of energy
 
That's not a spectrum, and I don't know how that difference could be infinite.
Do you mean that there are infinitely many states above the ground state?
If so, that is true, but has nothing to do with vacuum energy.
 
Because of the hamiltonian expression in terms of creation and annihilation operators
I will snapshot the expression
since I am missing mathpix tool I will spend lot of time
 
You can type TeX in chat, see the room description for how to display it.
 
This is the Hamiltonian
the second term is proportional to $\delta (0)$
anyway, which is infnite
 
7:56 PM
By analogy to the simple harmonic oscillator, the second term equals to unity times1 /2
 
@Student404Mus You have misunderstanding, between a mathematcian and some physicist here.
for a mathematician the spectrum are the eigenvalues when I 'm not wrong
 
@Student404Mus No. It's infinite, it's not equal to unity.
 
while some physicists they call spectrum only what they can measure. And this is differences between eigenvalues
 
@ACuriousMind It's infnite. So, this is the zero point energy mode
right?
 
It would be the energy if it weren't infinite
As I said, in the end the energy of the ground state is a renormalization parameter without physical meaning
 
8:00 PM
Alright
 
For a QFT beginner, I can't really improve on the discussion in chapter 1.8 of Weigand's notes
 
@ACuriousMind What confuses me is the interpretation of Peskin to this infinite c-number and the experimental fact
He said, the second term is the sum over zero point energy modes which is infnite as you mentioned. He added," fortunately, this energy cannot be detected experm., since the experiments measure only the difference between from the ground state of H".
 
Sure - there's no experiment that would detect the "energy of the ground state".
This isn't really anything quantum: In classical physics, the zero points of potentials are also arbitrary, meaning there's no way to measure "absolute energy" - only energy differences
 
8:45 PM
@ACuriousMind Thank you, I understood your explanations clearly. However, regarding what Peskin mentioned in his book, there is a contradiction between what he said about the infinity of the zero point energy/ground state energy, and the fact that this energy is not detectable experimentally because the measurable quantity is the difference in energy between the ground state (which is infinite and this is the confusion) and a higher level.
 
This is an example of the incompleteness of qft
 
@Student404Mus where's the contradiction?
 
@bolbteppa indeed
 
It's just the first encounter with something that needs to be renormalized. Renormalizable theories are not "incomplete", even though you can take the Wilsonian standpoint that renormalized QFTs are effective theories cut off at a scale.
 
what about re-re-normalization
or re-re-re-normalization...hmmm...
 
8:51 PM
according to the author, the energy differenc is always infinite according to two fact. the first is, the ground state energy is infnite, secondly, the energy differenc is defined by substituting a higher level energy from the ground state one.
 
Which is a cut-and-paste way of simply ignoring the fact that these problems arise from the point-particle model of relativistic physics, something motivating going beyond particles to strings
 
@enumaris Just I am focusing on what the author said in his book
 
@Student404Mus No. If you keep the ground state energy $\Delta_H$ as a variable, it drops out of all energy differences, which are then finite.
 
In classical electromagnetism, similar infinities arise
 
if you close your eyes hard enough the inconsistency goes away
and if you wave your hands the infinities look finite
 
8:58 PM
@enumaris That is an unfairly pithy way of putting it. There are finite, rigorous frameworks for renormalized perturbation theories following the work of Epstein and Glaser (buzzword: Causal perturbation theory). Just like in many other areas, the physicist's math sweeps a lot of subtlety under the rug, but that is far from unique to QFT or renormalization
 
True. I did not mean my statements to be unique to QFT.
 
The classical electrostatics formula $H = \int \frac{\mathbf{E}^2}{8 \pi} dV = \frac{1}{2} \sum_a e_a \phi(\mathbf{r}_a)$ with $\phi_a = \sum_b \frac{e_b}{R_{ab}}$ allows for $R_{aa} = 0$ terms i.e. dividing by zero to get infinities also, the problem stems from the fact that $R_{aa}$ can be zero due to using point particles, overall it's an infinite constant added to the particle that we throw away just as in QFT
 
yeah...which is why my prof always said..."to work with self forces, use energy methods"
 
@bolbteppa I understand the idea that we need to drop such terms to be in consistency with experiments. But i cannot understand why the experiment didn't predict such infinities that arose in the theory?
 
These $e_a/R_{aa}$ terms in the big sum are called self-energy terms, and are infinite, which means a relativistic electron would also have to have infinite mass if taken seriously, and relativity forbids the notion of a rigid body so we have to model them as point particles and can't avoid these $R_{aa} = 0$ values.
 
9:10 PM
@Student404Mus I don't understand what you're saying. Experiments don't predict anything.
 
Sorry, I mean the experiments didn't confirm such infinities that arose in the theory
 
How could you ever measure "infinity"?
 
lol
I am far away from what I asked before.
 
It's not a joke - this is why any prediction from a theory that is "infinity" is seen as a problem with the theory
And this is why it is important that the "ground state energy" is not actually something you can measure, so it is not a fatal problem that it's infinite
 
Basically, the same formula giving an infinity in the classical and quantum case is a good sign for the quantum theory since the classical theory already predicted it
 
9:54 PM
I am stuck in this calculation
I didn't find a way to inject this commutator
 
It's the same idea as on p. 30 here www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/qft/qft.pdf#page=30
 
@bolbteppa Thank you for your help. It is exciting.
 

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