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10:00 AM
Haha, I see! I haven't ever heard a nice rendition of the bagpipes so I can't possibly comment...
 
I'm guessing that if Motl was wrong he probably thought that it was the same issue as RQM
 
@Kaumudi.H The bagpipes are nice when played outside. Otherwise they're deafening
 
10:34 AM
Ideally play them in another country
 
@Slereah France for example :-)
 
Sorry we already have a place for bagpipe there
It's called Britanny
please go there if you're gonna play the bagpipes
 
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Q: If the universe is moving as a whole (aside from expanding) does that affect $c$?

SMCIf the universe were moving as a whole ( say we are a pocket universe and got dropped along the way with momentum from the parent universe's expansion ) then how would that affect the universal speed limit? Or would it not because it's an internal speed limit? What I'm getting at is that if you...

Close as non-mainstream?
 
@Qmechanic It's mainstream, but it's a duplicate.
I was about to seek out the duplicate and close it.
 
10:39 AM
@JohnRennie : "We are a pocket universe in a parent universe" is mainstream?
 
> What I'm getting at is that if you were travelling at 1km/h below c and shot a bullet the velocities would not add beyond c.
 
@Qmechanic Coleman's baby universe theory
 
@Slereah : I didn't claim its not heard of.
 
"Mainstream" doesn't mean "accepted by all"
Just that it's up to the standard of publication
"In the case of modern physics, if a theory has not been published in a reputable journal, it is not considered mainstream."
as the rules define it
 
10:46 AM
@Slereah : True. But then OP should refer to that theory.
 
I'm guessing he's not on the up and up about theoretical physics
 
@Slereah : Phys.SE usually don't accept multiverse questions without specifying a specific theory or setting, since else it usually becomes primarily opinion-based.
 
SMC
@Qmechanic @JohnRennie Sorry to bother you but the main part of my question ( universe moving as a whole ) was whether the entire universe being in motion would affect $c$ as seen from outside the universe and if we can measure a universe in motion. I don't believe the bus question is a duplicate but if the same priniciple applies I can ask a new question about measuring whether universe is in motion?
 
@SMC it is meaningless to describe the whole universe as being in motion
There is no absolute meaning to motion, not even for bubble universes. Every observer is at rest in their own rest frame.
 
SMC
Then would it not also make it meaningless to ask if the universe as a whole is rotating? That question seems to have been accepted
 
10:59 AM
@SMC but I will remove my close vote if you feel I have misunderstood the main point of your question.
@SMC no, because rotational motion necessarily creates a non-inertial frame
Linear motion does not.
 
SMC
Ok I'm obviously too far out of my depth on this forum, you know much better so I'll defer to your judgement and find somewhere to start smaller. Thanks for your time
sorry if that comes across as offended it's not meant to read that way :) thanks again
 
zup
 
What's the general formulation of the Legendre transform?
The one used is for functions $I \to \Bbb R$, but field theory requires the domain to be $\mathcal D$ or something
Does it work for any metric space or something
 
image not found? seriously?!
clicking on it works though
 
Or is it just that the derivative of the Lagrangian is just wrt. $\Bbb R$ by considering it to be at specific values of the function
 
11:09 AM
It's a shame that a caricature is the only available portrait of Legendre known (according to wiki)
 
Is it
It's a great caricature
 
That is true
 
Just like how the only portrait of Max Stirner is a caricature of Engel
 
bahaha
 
Morality is a spoooook
Max Stirner also appears as a catgirl here :
 
11:14 AM
oh dear
It's amazing to see the French tradition of producing great mathematicians
Russia for physics
 
11:34 AM
Ah apparently the general transform is the Legendre Fenchel transform
For topological vector spaces
 
@ACuriousMind I have written it, it's my midterm project
 
12:07 PM
Hm
I'm using $\mathscr H$ for the Hamiltonian density
But I'm afraid it might be too fancy
 
12:36 PM
Anyone here got any experience with ion optics?
 
sorry not me
 
Np, my ions just ain't moving right
 
heh. Put them in a potential difference!
 
That could potentially work
 
:P
Why don't you post a question?
 
12:43 PM
@Avantgarde I think it'd probably be closed :) It's a pretty specific situation and I feel like it'd be off topic for phys.se
 
Specifics are appreciated. Though being off topic is a problem.
 
Hmm. I might give it a shot then.
While looking for answers online, I found this illustration in a textbook
"Hey, bill, what's an electron actually look like?" "Uh. It's a manifestation of a quant-" "Smiley face it is then."
 
"There are no known smooth 4-manifolds to have finitely-many smooth structures"
I really hate this dimension
Plz string theory, make spacetime 11 dimensional
 
1:23 PM
A quick sanity check please. Am I off the beam or does this question not make sense?
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Q: How in Electromagnetic field, energy density stored in electric field is equal to energy density stored in magnetic field?

Luzan BaralHow can we prove a statement, "at any point in Electromagnetic field energy density stored in magnetic field is equal to energy density stored in magnetic field?

Maybe the OP means in an EM wave or there's some other further condition ...
 
@Slereah : The telephone operator ☎ also appeared here: When acting on the vacuum, it produces a dialatone state! :D
 
Haha
 
@Qmechanic That's the joke :V
 
1:42 PM
a man aaproches a plain mirror with a speed of 2m/s with what speed does it aaproch his image?
 
@Mithrandir24601 Okay cool thanks. Do you maybe why in the following explanation the only actions we can perform on our classical system are permutations of the classical states?
 
1:58 PM
I'm new to physics, and sometimes confused with physicists notation. How do we deal with a "undefined" differential? E.g. when the author just states "we compute the differential on both sides...". Sometimes it's obvious that we differentiate with respect to t the time as exmpl. But sometimes it can be anything and the result gives you no further information. Mostly you have to figure it out yourself 2 pages later or do a wild guess. There is no such thing like a general differential is there?
 
@JohnRennie This is definitely not true in general.
(Only holds for propagating waves)
 
Hi @Felix.C: physicists frequently play fast and loose with differentials.
 
@Felix.C Welcome to physics :D
Also, you can compute the differential in general, and not with respect to some variable. In that case, you apply the chain rule
 
2:14 PM
@Avantgarde hm..that makes sense..I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
And...I'm also glad to be here ;D
 
:)
@Felix.C We'll turn you into a physicist in no time :D
 
I already did the first step I just learned $\pi \approx 5$ ;)
 
@Felix.C Most of the physicist's usage of differentials can be made perfectly well-defined through the notion of differential forms
 
@Felix.C pi is approximately 5?
 
@JohnDoe What other sort of action do you think would be possible?
In this case, your "classical state space" is just a set with 6 elements. Every bijective map from it to itself is necessarily a permutation.
 
2:26 PM
0
Q: Nuking Jupiter methods

sen siangCan you nuke Jupiter by sending an atomic bomb well protected by submarine capable of withstanding high pressure, enter layer of superfluid hydrogen and then ignite it?

...why are people so intent on setting Jupiter on fire?
4
 
to get a mini sun
 
@ACuriousMind Yeah I understand, as opposed to a quantum measurment where the six element state can change to any number of elements less than or equal to 6? Is that the idea?
 
@JohnDoe Not, that is not the idea. The quantum state space is not a set of 6 elements, but a six-dimensional vector space (or rather its associated projective space) since it admits arbitrary superpositions of its basis states. And there are more bijective linear maps on vector spaces than just permutations of a given basis.
 
@ACuriousMind Why does this action have to be a bijective linear map? Is it so that the vector space in the domain is isomorphic to the vector space in the codomain?
 
@JohnDoe The action of any sort of symmetry (or reversible time evolution) must be bijective in order to be invertible.
 
2:38 PM
@ACuriousMind Okay but as I understand these actions on the state $\rho$ are given by some unitary operator $U$, where the final state is $U \rho U^{\dagger}$. So are you saying that $\rho \mapsto U \rho U^{\dagger}$ is a bijective linear map? Am I way off target?
 
@JohnDoe Of course it is
Its inverse is clearly $\rho\mapsto U^\dagger \rho U$, no?
 
@ACuriousMind Is that what you meant ?
@ACuriousMind By 'action' I mean were you talking about that kind of mapping?
 
How am I supposed to know what sort of actions your text is referring to? I just made a well-founded guess that whatever action it is, it would be bijective (there are very few non-reversible "actions" that occur in physics), since otherwise it makes no sense to say that there are only permutations on the classical set.
 
@ACuriousMind Oh okay. Wasn't reffering to the use of 'action' in the text...was reffering to your use...thought there was maybe a standard idea of 'action' on a state in QM, such as the mapping I indicated previously.
 
Yes, under an "action" one would generically understand the action of a group, and since all group elements have inverses, these actions would necessarily have to be invertible.
 
2:48 PM
@ACuriousMind Okay I see thanks
 
 
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4:01 PM
@Slereah huh. unicode support on mathjax really does do some weird things.
So, lemme try
$$\huge{🔫}$$
$$\huge{🐘🐨🐼🐾🦃🐭}$$
nice
Yo @DanielSank, check it out
$$\Huge{🐙}$$
 
@ACuriousMind Do you know Jean-Pierre Petit
he's a famous french physicist, well known for his work in plasma physics and his popular science comics
 
$$\huge{\mathrm{hatch}\mathopen{}\left(🥚\right)\mathclose{} = 🐣}$$
damn
 
He's also a huge conspiracy nut who thinks the US sent antimatter bombs on Jupiter or something
 
$$\mathrm{\large{eruption}} = \left( \huge{⛰} \large \to \huge{🌋} \right)$$
 
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A: Does light reflect if incident at exactly the critical angle?

Luboš MotlWhen one is exactly at the critical angle, the light behaves in a way that may be interpreted as "something in between" refraction and reflection: it continues in a direction that is tangent to the boundary of the mediums. When the angle is smaller than the critical angle, we get refraction. A...

"But that's not a problem because the probability that the direction of light is "exactly" tangent to the boundary is zero. "
why?
 
4:10 PM
@Yashas because $\{\theta_c\}$ is a set of measure zero
 
?
 
or that's what Lubos means there
though to be honest I disagree with his explanation
this diagram is wrong
 
@EmilioPisanty why?
 
@Yashas because it's working in the ray approximation
 
Ah!
 
4:15 PM
the critical angle, along with the rest of the Fresnel equations, work for plane waves
i.e. you have an incident plane wave filling all of space below
and the angle of incidence tells you the inclination of the wavefronts / their normals
and at the critical angle and above, in the $n_2$ region, you have an evanescent wave
which covers the entire horizontal axis
and decays exponentially vertically (probably)
(I'd need to think more carefully about what happens with the Fresnel equations exactly at the critical angle)
to get away from that and to the ray picture, you need to actually build a ray
which you do by superposing a bunch of plane waves with a small-but-finite spread of wavevectors about the central ray wavevector
so what Lubos says is true
 
@EmilioPisanty Come to lisbon take my physics exam for me
 
only one of those plane waves will be at exactly the critical angle, but you can ignore it because it has a zero probability within that wavepacket, because points don't count in a continuous integral
but still, he doesn't really explain in enough depth
 
everything is going above my head lol
 
@BernardoMeurer hell no
 
I need to revise optics
 
4:20 PM
@EmilioPisanty Even if you do I already failed the class, so it doesn't matter :P
 
@BernardoMeurer what kinda physics? just "physics"?
 
@EmilioPisanty "Mechanics and Waves" is the name of the course
And it's the worst failure I had ever
Heck I passed Analysis and failed this
 
Are you still planning to leave Lisbon?
 
@JohnRennie Yeah, now more then ever
I feel like a complete moron
 
Have you got any offers from other universities yet?
 
4:31 PM
I only pass classes with the word "Computer" or "Digital" in the name
Not yet, soon though
 
You passed an analysis class that I would have struggled with :-)
 
Yeah, that professor was bananas
Still can' believe this was on an exam with no calculators allowed:
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Q: Estimating value of Gaussian integral

Bernardo MeurerHow to show that the area $A$ of the region $$\{(x,y)\in\mathbb R^2 : |x|\le y\le e^{-x^2}\}$$ is such that $$0 < A = 2\int_{0}^{\beta}{(e^{-t^2}-t)dt} < 1$$ in which $\beta>0$ satisfies $e^{-\beta^2}=\beta$

 
@BernardoMeurer I failed Astrophysical Fluid Dynamics and it doesn't seem to have done me too much harm...
 
@EmilioPisanty no mathjax on phone
 
@Mithrandir24601 I failed a basic physics course, not some PhD magic-fuckery :P
 
4:34 PM
@BernardoMeurer you didn't upvote ACM's answer!!!
 
@DanielSank ah, well, you'll catch it when you get to a desktop
but I reckon you can see the gist from the phone
 
@JohnRennie He didn't derive the exponential value with a Taylor series, I consider that cheating :P
 
Harsh!! :-)
Actually you might have done. The score was showing as zero, but I don't have enough rep to see whether there were downvotes ...
 
@BernardoMeurer It was only a third year exam and it was the one that most people found one of the easiest (although 'easiest' is definitely a relative term here), only I just couldn't do it. At all. None of it made any sense to me whatsoever, so you'll be fine! It takes a couple of years for most stuff to properly sink in anyway :P
 
4:36 PM
So much for aliens
 
I did upvote it, but I didn't accept it :P
@Mithrandir24601 If they called it Computer Mechanics and Waves I would've passed :(
 
@BernardoMeurer And if they called mine 'Modelling Astro. Fluids on a computer', I also would have passed, but that's life :/ Seriously, don't get discouraged from a bad result, although I know me telling you that doesn't actually help :P
 
Buy me beer, that always help
(Thank you though, :) )
 
@BernardoMeurer ::Sends imaginary beer::
If you ever find yourself here, or if I go over to Spain at some point (I certainly wouldn't complain), I'll buy you a beer
Or wait, are you in Portugal?
 
I'm in Portugal, yeah
But I can go to Spain :P
 
4:45 PM
I'm sure this is a duplicate because I vaguely remember the original:
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Q: How does one come up with the model of torque?

K. ClaessonIn school, we learn that $T = Fd$, where $T$ is the torque, $F$ is the force perpendicular to the moment arm, and $d$ is the length of the moment arm. If I was the first physicist to come up with this model for torque, what might my train of thought be? In other words, how does one come up with t...

but I'm damned if I can find the duplicate I remember ...
 
That question is going to keep me awake throughout the night now
 
@JohnRennie Where you around back when cigarettes didn't have filters?
 
@BernardoMeurer yes, indeed, though I have never smoked. I think filterless cigarettes used to be called gaspers, for the effect they had on the smokers breathing :-)
 
@JohnRennie Heh, I'm not convinced filters do anything to be honest
 
Well if you look at the filter on a smoked cigarette it's full of brown crap!
 
4:58 PM
@JohnRennie Yes, but my point is I'm not convinced not-inhaling that extends your life. i.e. the truly bad chemicals pass nontheless
 
But seriously, why would anyone smoke tobacco these days? If you're a nicotine addict use an e-cigarette.
If you're just a doper then smoke reefer instead :-)
 
To look cool and get pussy until you get a tracheostomy :^)
 
Attention friendly mods: I'm sure this is a repost of a closed question:
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Q: What would happen to electron moving from positive axis?

JohnIf potential V= 2x+5 . What would happen to elecron coming from positive x axis? I think it should speed up as the potential is postive. Am i right?

But I can't see the original so it might have been deleted.
Aha, got it! Yes it's a repost of:
@ACuriousMind @Qmechanic kill, kill! :-)
 
@JohnRennie Also, I must say, you were woefully wrong in not telling me to buy a turntable. It's basically the only thing still getting me laid :P
 
Oh well. My advice on physics is obviously better than my advice on nookie :-)
Story of my life really :-)
Oh no, a mod has arrived just in time to see us talking about sex :-)
 
5:07 PM
Is Newton's second law is empirical?
There is no proof for it, right?
 
@JohnRennie But you're the room owner... If anyone can get away with it, it's you :P
 
He is?
 
@Mithrandir24601 sadly there are no special allowances for room owners. My only get out clause is that at least I attempt (not always successfully) to make my comments amusing.
@Avantgarde I am!
 
I see
 
@JohnRennie I learn so many new words with you :P
 
I need a new girlfriend
Or two
 
Just did
 
Kneel at my feet, commoners!
 
@Yashas Which version of the second law? The one I'd normally consider the second law is essentially saying momentum = mass x velocity, which is probably some sort of definition. If you mean the original paragraph Newton wrote, then that's more of an empirical thing ::Waits for someone to tell me I'm completely wrong::
 
@Yashas There's no proof for any physical law. They can only be verified
 
5:12 PM
@Mithrandir24601 AFAIK the second law states that the rate of change of momentum is directly proportional to the unbalanced force applied on it
 
@BernardoMeurer I can help with physics and laptops. Sadly I can claim no great expertise in bedroom olympics.
 
@Avantgarde you can tell in-room as his name is in italics
 
Yes!
Just noticed haha
 
@Yashas: I'm sure there have been questions on the derivation of Newton's second law ...
 
@JohnRennie Last time I asked you for physics help you didn't even understand the question
 
5:14 PM
Why should acceleration be proportional to the force?
or why should the rate of change of linear momentum be proportional to acceleration
 
@BernardoMeurer I didn't say I was good at physics - just that I was better at physics than at love :-)
 
@Yashas That's assuming that mass stays constant, which may or may not be the case
 
@Mithrandir24601 what is mass in Newtonian mechanics?
 
Well for the second question, linear momentum is defined as mv. Differentiating that wrt time gives ma, which is the right hand side.
And for the first question, force is just a fancy name for the quantity on LHS
 
@JohnRennie Damn you old man :P
At least give me beer
 
5:17 PM
@Yashas I'm not thinking about any complicated relativistic or quantum effects, just e.g. a space rocket dropping off the fuel tanks and burning fuel :P
 
@Yashas: this question?
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Q: Why does $F=ma$? Is there a straightforward reason?

Lucius PertisWhy is force = mass $\times$ acceleration? I have searched in many sites but didn't actually get at it. Simply I want to know that if a mass in space moves (gains velocity thus further accelerates), how can I think, postulate and further believe that force = multiplication of mass and its accele...

 
Force is defined as the rate of change of momentum
we could've just called it dp/dt
 
I feel so weird now
 
just like dx/dt is called velocity
why weird lol
 
I don't know but I am totally confused
so confused that I don't know what to think about
 
5:21 PM
Give your mind some rest
 
Anonymous
@Avantgarde I wonder which came first: the concept of momentum or the concept of force :P
 
I think the concept of momentum
it is easier to understand
actually not
I remember Aristotle 's stuff
something must be pushing for an object to keep moving
 
Anonymous
I thought force is easier to understand: a hard punch vs. a soft punch :D
 
Anonymous
A tight slap vs. a loose slap :P
 
Concept of force was first, but it was also wrong
 
5:23 PM
you know what the rate of change of acceleration is called?
JERK!
 
jerk
 
Anonymous
and the rate of change of jerk is called jounce
 
Anonymous
and there are many more such names :P
 
Anonymous
crackle...
 
5:24 PM
Snap, Crackle, and Pop are the cartoon mascots of Kellogg's crisped-rice breakfast cereal Rice Krispies, known in Australia as Rice Bubbles. == History == The gnomic elves characters were originally designed by illustrator Vernon Grant in the early 1930s. The names are an onomatopoeia and were derived from a Rice Krispies radio ad: Listen to the fairy song of health, the merry chorus sung by Kellogg's Rice Krispies as they merrily snap, crackle and pop in a bowl of milk. If you've never heard food talking, now is your chance. The first character appeared on the product's packaging in 1933, Grant...
 
So you see, the question I can now ask is:
Why is boom = mass X jerk?
Where boom is just d(force)/dt
 
@JohnRennie : merged, merged! :-)
 
I feel totally lost because all of mechanics is being derived from one definition and math!
 
@Qmechanic :-)
 
Anonymous
@Yashas Same is the case here :D
 
5:27 PM
Mechanics arising out of pure logic and math.
 
@blue Jounce. I didn't know that
 
@Qmechanic wouldn't come amiss to remove the answer, too
 
"Dear Jerry, first of all, "we" haven't created string theory. String theory is of a purely natural origin. It is as exceptional a mathematical structure as $E_8$ Lie group or any other unique object in mathematics. People can only discover it, not invent it."
 
So isn't it beautiful?
 
String theory is Motl's religion
 
5:27 PM
@Yashas surely that makes it easier not harder? Just remember $\ddot{x}=F/m$ and how to integrate.
 
It is so unsettling.
 
Anonymous
@Slereah Same old debate: Is maths "discovered" or "invented"? :)
 
@EmilioPisanty : Ah, I see David Z already did that.
 
@Qmechanic well, doesn't the world move fast around here
 
Math is invented, though it has a discovery vibe to it
 
5:31 PM
Can I invent my own mechanics by defining some random quantity? $Y = m^2v$?
The rate of change of Y is Z
Z = m^2a
 
sure, just that it might not have much meaning when dealing with physical situations
 
Anonymous
@Yashas Yeah, but what would be it's use? How would you perceive it?
 
how is mass defined?
 
still confused?
 
P = mv
what's mass?
 
5:34 PM
@Yashas if I were physically present, I'd throw large boulders at you and then ask you the same question
 
@blue L = T - V; what physical meaning does that have?
 
hahaha
 
Anonymous
@Yashas I don't know. Depends on how you choose to define it
 
L = Lagrangian
 
Anonymous
All the common definitions in mechanics are very much "perceivable". Like momentum, torque...
 
Anonymous
5:36 PM
@Yashas Sorry, don't know Lagrangian mechanics yet
 
Lagrangian mechanics makes solving SHM problems way easier but the quantity L does not have any physical meaning as far as I knwo
 
@Yashas whaddaya mean, no physical meaning
it's the lagrangian
 
?
 
put it another way: what's the "physical meaning" of the energy?
 
interesting question
 
5:38 PM
@Mithrandir24601 Yo how are things going?
 
Anonymous
I like the layman's definition: "Ability to do work"
 
I have some intuition for potential energy and kinetic energy but what could their difference be? :/
 
@Yashas it's a function of the coordinates and the velocities which you can calculate if you know the state of the system and which has interesting relationships with the dynamics, no?
exactly like the lagrangian
 
@JohnDoe Hi. Not bad, thanks :) You?
 
nothing's real anyway; all of this is just lOgiCaL deduction of human pErCepTiOn.
which can be easily dissolved by taking a good dose of LSD
 
5:40 PM
It is so unsettling to learn that Newton started off with a definition for momentum and derived the rest of the mechanics from that definition and maths
 
he's not asking for a mathematical description of the Lagrangian, but rather how it can be tapped in actual experiments
 
@Mithrandir24601 Not bad either. Long week, glad it's weekend :) Weekend often doesn't really amount to less work though...but it's still better.
@Mithrandir24601 You planning to watch any of the cricket, ICC Championship?
 
@JohnDoe Nope :P I'm also going to be pretty busy this weekend :/
 
@Mithrandir24601 Oh okay that's a shame, SA-India cricket Sunday will be distracting...Cricket is so long that it can kill a full day of work..
 
Anonymous
@JohnDoe Which country are you from?
 
5:45 PM
@Avantgarde and what I'm saying is that that is the wrong way to look at it, but to each their own
 
@JohnDoe Yeah, I've seen the odd bit of cricket. It's a very, very long game
 
@blue South Africa
 
rob
@EmilioPisanty I don't think I was involved, but nice job
 
@rob oh, but you were
 
rob
@EmilioPisanty Enlighten me?
 
5:46 PM
@rob didn't use to be the first answer on that thread, now it is
 
Anonymous
@JohnDoe Ow, nice :) I'm from India
 
@Mithrandir24601 Yeah and this is the short version. It's usually 5 days...
@blue Where you from?
 
Not really. It's interesting to ask what the physical meaning might be.
 
Why should an object continue its motion if nothing is done to it?
 
rob
@EmilioPisanty Ah. Now I see.
 
5:48 PM
@blue :) Cool, you following the cricket?
 
For example, you could 'measure' the kinetic energy of a moving ball by making it collide with a wall and then measure the increase in temperature. Different kinetic energies will give different values of final temperatures
 
because nothing is done to it?
 
Anonymous
@JohnDoe Yeah, South Africa is doing well! India at second position it seems :P (icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/odi)
 
@rob It might've been better to turn that answer into a comment, though.
 
@Yashas conservation of momentum is linked to a fundamental symmetry of space - shift symmetry
 
5:50 PM
@JohnRennie I am not there yet to understand that :P
 
@Avantgarde As I said, to each their own. But dismissing a quantity outright as "not physical" because one has personally not been able to think of an experiment that will measure it strikes me as wrong-headed.
The real issue with the lagrangian is that it is not gauge-invariant, and that's where the really interesting stuff lies.
I.e. it is as physical as the vector potential in electromagnetism.
 
@Yashas I don't understand the details of Noether's theorem either, but we don't need to know all the gory detail - just that conserved quantities are related to symmetries.
Conservation of energy is due to another symmetry - time shift symmetry
 
rob
@EmilioPisanty That's a good point; done.
 
@JohnRennie there isn't a symmetry thing for conservation of charge, right?
why is charge conserved?
 
@rob $\Large{👍}$
 
5:53 PM
that is symmetry under phase shifts
 
@Yashas Yes, that's a symmetry too. There's a question that explains the details. Give me a mo and I'll search for it.
 
@blue Bangladesh on there way to beating New Zealand. That means that whoever wins on Sunday will play Bangla in semis, that's a big prize. Hopefully AB will be fit for the match. If not, then India have the advantage definitely.
@blue For once we have the best spinner in a match against india.
 
@Yashas the symmetry corresponding to charge conservation is gauge invariance
 
In physics, charge conservation is the principle that electric charge can neither be created nor destroyed. The net quantity of electric charge, the amount of positive charge minus the amount of negative charge in the universe, is always conserved. Charge conservation was first proposed by British scientist William Watson in 1746 and American statesman and scientist Benjamin Franklin in 1747, although the first convincing proof was given by Michael Faraday in 1843. it is now discovered and demonstrated, both here and in Europe, that the Electrical Fire is a real Element, or Species of Matter,...
I was on the same page :D
I want to get an intuition for noether's theorem but I'm too far away from understanding that :/
 
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Q: Noether theorem, gauge symmetry and conservation of charge

FraSchelleI'm trying to understand Noether's theorem, and it's application to gauge symmetry. Below what I've done so far. First, the global gauge symmetry. I'm starting with the Lagragian $$L_{1}=\partial^{\mu}\Psi\partial_{\mu}\Psi^{\ast}-m^{2}\left|\Psi\right|^{2}$$ with classical complex fields. Th...

 
6:06 PM
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A: Can Noether's theorem be understood intuitively?

Luboš MotlIt's intuitively clear that the energy most accurately describes how much the state of the system is changing with time. So if the laws of physics don't depend on time, then the amount how much the state of the system changes with time has to be conserved because it's still changing in the same w...

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"It's intuitively clear that the energy most accurately describes how much the state of the system is changing with time. So if the laws of physics don't depend on time, then the amount how much the state of the system changes with time has to be conserved because it's still changing in the same way."
I don't find it intuitive at all
 
@Yashas I'd call that either a definition, or mathematical or physical result (i.e. something we know as a result of maths or physics), not intuition, but anyway...
 
6:47 PM
Apparently Guinness's "Draught" canned beer is just bottled foam
Nevermind the foam has turned into beer!
MAGIC
 
7:43 PM
@ACuriousMind Create a tinder account
Then I will spoof by GPS to your location
and match with you
So we can connect forever
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer You use tinder ? :P
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer That would be a good pick-up line btw :D
 
@Yashas new answer coming in a bit
 
@blue Of course I do, it's super useful
 
but here's a taster
 
7:49 PM
@blue That's a great pickup line! Good idea!
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Well, most of my friends say that tinder has mostly fake profiles with fake pictures... :P
 
Anonymous
Not sure if that's true
 
@blue Meh, I just have a couple pictures of myself there since I actually go out with the people I match sometimes
 
Does someone have access to this paper
taps nose knowingly
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Good for you. I have 0 dating experience :D
 
7:55 PM
@blue Good, it's worse than if you mix crack with cyanide and use it as a suppository
 
@Slereah I don't but a Russian friend of mine does
 

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