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12:00 AM
Cya
 
12:45 AM
@BalarkaSen Wait what? (If I understood correctly, you guys seems to be constructing the natural numbers with the von neumann scheme) so you mean the cartesian product of the natural numbers (under this scheme) with itself is a proper subset of the natural numbers?? While I can see how both sets have the same cardinality since they are both countable, I don't see what elements will be missing in the cartesian product wrt the naturals (under the von neumann scheme).
Similar to what heather is thinking, I will expect the two sets are equivalent?
 
12:59 AM
Somewhat relevant to PSE:
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Q: What's the deal with Altmetric? How reliable is its scraping, and how often does it happen?

E.P.Altmetric is a service that attempts to track the online impact of scholarly articles, which it does by keeping score of mentions on Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, blogs, and the like and then using questionable cutting-edge statistical methods for producing one shiny number for bean-counting admi...

 
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Q: Quantum circuit for a W state

sunspotsCan someone specify a quantum circuit that will deterministically output the $3$-qubit $W$ state, if the input to the circuit is $|0,0,0 \rangle$? Or, is there a quantum circuit with a different $3$-qubit input state that will output the $3$-qubit $W$ state deterministically? I am looking for an ...

I forgot how one experimentally put two given states into superposition, though I remember about polarisers and wave plates rotating states along one of the 3 directions
 
1:17 AM
[Ramblings] Entanglement: Wavefunctions of subsystems become correlated, resulting in an overall wavefunction that cannot be factorised (hence also the probability distributions and distributions of other observables)
this is a valid way to look at it since the wavefunction has a deterministic evolution
 
1:39 AM
[Ramblings] :: ramble, ramble, ramble...::
 
1:55 AM
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Q: Can superfluids communicate faster than light?

James WatkinsAccording to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueVTzEB3tJ8 A superfluid "flows without friction" and "all of the atoms in a superfluid are in the same quantum state." What strikes me as odd is the statement "all [the atoms] have the same momentum, such that if one of them moves, they a...

Obviously not, but is a huge tank of superfluid nonlocal (in the sense of position, not in the sense of signalling), given how it is in effect one single quantum state...?
 
Hmm, I am guessing, if a small region of a tank of superfluid is perturbed by some local interaction, the atoms in said region would end up in a different state and thus that region will stop behaving like a superfluid
 
2:16 AM
I think I either need to ask a PSE question, or Acuriousmind about this, as superfluid is clearly a single quantum state, so you cannot really perturb just a small region of a tank of superfluid without changing the quantum state (which is the whole tank), or is it...?
 
2:30 AM
actually, screw that, let me dig deeper into PSE...
 
2:58 AM
Fun fact: Without the Greenhouse effect,the temperature of earth would have been -18℃
 
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A: In a radioactive Bose-Einstein condensate, would all the atoms disintegrate simultaneously?

robThere are several ways to destroy a Bose-Einstein condensate. The most common is temperature, which is why BECs are all low-temperature phenomena. For instance, helium becomes superfluid when a large fraction of the atoms enter the same quantum state, which happens around $\mathrm{2\,K = \frac16\...

Ha, so that means a tank of superfluid locally perturbed will result in the atoms in that region to be knocked out of the condensate, instead of having the whole tank of fluid changed at once
 
vzn
3:52 AM
just saw this with 2 beautiful latin women & have no other place ot brag about it :| :P imdb.com/title/tt4465564 happy valentines day everyone hope you have someone special to share it with too :)
 
4:34 AM
Dumb question, but does arXiv only have scientific papers?
 
4:56 AM
@SirCumference what other kind of papers are there?
 
@0celo7 You know what I mean
Like, does it have notes
 
@SirCumference Yes
 
@0celo7 Huh really?
 
You asked a question and I gave an answer.
You don't like that answer, so it was either a bad question or you knew the answer already
 
5:19 AM
@0celo7 What? No, I was just surprised
 
@0celo7 Humanities papers. Arts papers. Just because other disciplines of human endeavor run on a different philosophical substrate doesn't mean people aren't communicating their scholarship that way.
@SirCumference Well, you'll find some papers in economics up there. Some people would argue that 'science's is where they patently prevaricate'. ::tip's hat toward to Randall Monroe::
 
@dmckee I was thinking along the lines of notes, even textbooks, etc.
 
More emphasis on "papers" than "scientific"
 
@SirCumference The mission of arXiv concerns itself with preprints—things destined (or hopefully destined) to be published as papers. I don't think the moderators would look too kindly on someone using it for things that are clearly not papers, though you could possibly slip in some edge cases.
 
5:34 AM
@dmckee So if someone keeps a preprint on arXiv, it gets published in a journal, and the author updates or revises it, it's not likely that the paper will be updated on arXiv?
 
@ACuriousMind Videos are better for the same use cases as demonstrations in class. For communicating the dense mathematical detail that is needed for mastery text is king (or queen or gender neutral monarch).
@SirCumference I lot of arXiv pre-prints get a text up-date after the reviews come in. I've updated one just before submitting the revised text.
But they don't generally have a post-publication life.
 
@dmckee Not sure what you mean by "post-publication life"
 
@SirCumference I mean the pre-print isn't changed after the journal version is available.
 
Oh. Well, thanks
 
The only case I can think of for that is a retraction of a large part of the claim.
 
5:42 AM
@dmckee PhD theses too. That's actually encouraged by the administrators.
 
@DavidZ Yah. Fair-enough. Because most thesis are never 'published' in a manner that makes them actually available but they are (or are suppose to be) some genuinely new work.
 
6:09 AM
Make sure to cross check often. Daily mail is not a reputable source even according to wikipedia
 
6:52 AM
@SirCumference you do get books and lecture notes on the Arxiv.
 
7:07 AM
@vzn Does KS have a science degree or something ?
 
@JohnRennie Er, ok
Kind of confused now
 
@SirCumference why?
 
Some people say it's merely for papers, others say it's more
Wikipedia says it's for preprints
 
It was intended to be for preprints and it is still mainly for preprints.
However other stuff that people think may be useful does find its way onto the Arxiv.
 
"Quantum field theory may be understood as the incorporation of the principle of locality (“Nahwirkungsprinzip”)"
Good old Nahwirkungsprinzip
 
7:18 AM
It is quite common for lecture notes from courses given at the better known summer schools to be uploaded to the Arxiv, and very useful they are too.
 
Huh, neat
 
@JohnRennie Hm, how can you tell if something is an actual paper or just notes, before looking at it?
 
Entries for papers will normally say what journal they are being published in.
 
@JohnRennie I don't see any way to distinguish this paper from these notes.
 
7:27 AM
In this case the summer school lecture notes were published (in AIP Conf.Proc.1287:99-104,2010) so this really is a journal pre-print.
 
Ok, clearly I'm naive because I didn't think journals accepted lecture notes...
 
Bear in mind that journals publish all sorts of stuff like reviews and conference proceedings as well as original papers.
In this case is was published in a journal that specialises in conference proceedings:
AIP Conference Proceedings is a serial published by the American Institute of Physics since 1970. It publishes the proceedings from various conferences of physics societies. Alison Waldron is the current Acquisitions Editor for AIP Conference Proceedings. In addition to the series' own ISSN, each volumes receives its own ISBN. AIP Conference Proceedings publishes more than 100 volumes per year, with back-file coverage to 1970 which encompasses 1,330 proceedings volumes and 100,000 published papers. == Scope == In 2010 broad subject coverage included biophysics, plasma physics, geophysics, polymer...
 
@JohnRennie So even if it's not original information?
 
Journals routinely publish review articles ...
 
Well clearly I've been confused...
 
7:32 AM
The main content of most journals is indeed original research.
 
user228700
Hi, everyone :-)
 
But other publications like reviews and lecture notes can be very useful and it's good that they are published.
@Kaumudi.H Hi :-)
 
@Kaumudi.H Hi :)
@JohnRennie So, then again, how can you tell if a publication is original research or lecture notes before reading it?
 
@SirCumference it would normally be obvious from reading the abstract.
> Comments: 6 pages, 3 Figures. Talk given at CINVESTAV's Advanced Summer School of Physics 2009. Mexico City, Mexico, 27-31 Jul, 2009
 
Lecture notes and review articles have a lot of subsections, and generally more than 10-20 pages
Original research articles are generally shorter and more on reporting the data or model
 
7:41 AM
Gotcha
@JohnRennie Unrelated question, but confused. More cosmology (hopefully the last I'll deal with for a while): is the comoving distance to the edge of the observable universe increasing at the speed of light?
 
@SirCumference I'm working for the next half hour or so. Back soon ...
 
8:17 AM
@SirCumference the comoving distance to the particle horizon is at $\eta c$, where $\eta$ is the conformal time: $$ \eta = \int_0^t \frac{dt'}{a(t')} $$ It isn't obvious to me this is increasing at the speed of ight.
 
8:43 AM
Why in this video force applied by liquid is not considered
 
 
1 hour later…
9:55 AM
 
That's one scary looking perturbation. It's just 1st order?
 
 
1 hour later…
11:26 AM
20 February is going to be an interesting day:
- AMA with heather (which is my first time attending one)
- UK parliament will debate this petition (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928) :-))
 
can we ask heather nothing but questions about UK policies
 
Is it possible to ask a question without adding to the pool before?
Some questions I want to see a spontaneous answer
I've definitely missed the past AMAs :(
 
well you can also ask us anything right now
It's not like any of us are actually famous
We couldn't even get Lumo to do one
 
I can't ask you something like this now
But still have some questions that I can ask
For example, I like to see @DanielSank s answer to this
I don't why interesting questions get downvoted....maybe because they're somewhat controversial
 
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Q: productivity and self improvement questions

The asgardianYou can ask productivity and self improvement questions related to programming or computers on software engineering stack exchange . See for example this question , http://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/141860/should-i-be-concerned-that-i-cant-program-very-fast-without-google W...

 
11:44 AM
@Mostafa you can ask anything during the AMA. The idea of soliciting questions is to make sure we have a reasonable number of interesting questions, but the list isn't meant to be exclusive.
The previous AMAs have all tended to run out of questions towards the end so there should be plenty of opportunity to ask extra questions.
 
that's great, thanks.
also about its time
it's 2AM for me
:(
 
Where are you that it's 2 AM
it's 3 AM in California
are you in the middle of the pacific
 
Tehran
 
Do you mean 2 PM
 
Let me see again :/
Its 10pm, right?
10pm GMT
Tehran is GMT +3:30
 
user228700
12:21 PM
Random question: Troye Sivan, anybody? (Music)
 
Who
 
user228700
...OK :-P
 
user228700
For anybody even remotely interested to listen to some "new" music:--
 
12:36 PM
Is there a query for the most downvoted answer on a site? I'm curious if anyone ever made it below -20.
 
Duffield did
 
@Slereah Nope, lowest is currently at -17 net score
 
-17
A: Is there an elegant proof of the existence of Majorana spinors?

John Duffield Is there an elegant proof of the existence of Majorana spinors? No. Because they don't exist. The neutrino is not a Majorana spinor. It's a Weyl spinor. See Dirac, Majorana and Weyl fermions by Palash Pal. He said “the neutrinos had to be uncharged because of conservation of electric charge,...

Hm
I remembered a -21 answer
I guess it got deleted
 
hehe @ACuriousMind
I know it is not on physics^
 
12:52 PM
@ACuriousMind Did you try data explorer ?
 
@anonymous My SQL capabilities are non-existent
And searching for existing queries is rather difficult, you must happen to guess the exact words someone used in their title.
 
@ACuriousMind You could ask Kenshin to make a query on Data Explorer. He seems to be good at it. I learnt to use the data explorer a year back and now I forgot it all. Anyway, why do you want to find the most downvoted answer ? :D
 
@ACuriousMind
 
-28
Q: Do we need Maxwell's Equations since they fail to account for an experimental fact at least in one occasion?

ganzewoortThis question is an outgrowth of What is the difference between electric potential, potential difference (PD), voltage and electromotive force (EMF)? , where @sb1 mentioned Faraday's law. However, Faraday's law as part of Maxwell's equations cannot account for the voltage measured between the rim...

 
12:57 PM
@anonymous I'd like to compare the lowest values on different sites with each other, I'm interested how different communities favour downvoting but not deleting vs. deleting.
@Mostafa Wow. Strictly speaking not an answer to my question since that's a question, but good find ;)
I guess you went to the last page of the votes tab.
 
@ACuriousMind Oh, yes, that could be interesting. That was one aspect when I asked this question on meta.chemistry: meta.chemistry.stackexchange.com/q/3484/7951
> Should such answers be deleted, or wouldn’t it be more to the point if they stay – with downvotes that clearly indicate the assessment of the community?
 
@anonymous Hm, I guess I'd need to adjust the PostTypeId field. Is 0 the setting for an answer? Or is it 2?
 
I don't know how to filter for negative votes
 
@ACuriousMind Most downvoted answer:
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A: What experiment would disprove string theory?

Cedric H.String theory should come with a proposal for an experiment, and make some predictions about the results of the experiment; then we could check against the real results. If a theory cannot come with any predictions, then it will disprove itself little by little ... The problem is that, with str...

 
1:05 PM
@Mostafa wow, -34. Alas, it's positively scored, I guess I'm searching for net score. How'd you find that one?
On second thought, both (downvotes alone and net score) are interesting
 
@ACuriousMind 2 I guess
 
Just change the postTypeId to 2 in thisquery
Results:
 
@Mostafa Those answers are heavily upvoted
Something is wrong
 
has there ever been a SQL injection in SE?
 
1:08 PM
@anonymous It counts only the downvotes on them
 
I was reading a research paper few days ago which claimed that high positive vote on a comment in a webpage influences other people to upvote it without any reason.
It also stated that the other way round isn't true.
 
@YashasSamaga Yes, just look at any HNQ :P
 
@ACuriousMind Aha. I thought we are looking for the answers with lowest net score
 
@anonymous I was, but this is also interesting
 
This is the query for the lowest score answer
-17 is the lowest
 
1:12 PM
@anonymous You don't need a query for that. The normal site search can do it.
 
@Loong Oh! I didn't know :P
 
OK let's go and help it hit -20
 
@Mostafa LOL
:D
Lets do it :P
-18 now
 
Damn I've already downvoted it xD
 
@Mostafa Retracted downvote...don't want to lose 1 rep :P
I'm too selfish XD
 
1:15 PM
I have stopped downvoting because it makes me feel sad lol
 
@YashasSamaga It makes me feel like a psychopath who enjoys downvoting mercilessly :D
 
:-/
 
sorry
 
my message is already making me feel sad because I called you a heartless human being lol
 
1:20 PM
@Mostafa @anonymous Please don't vote on answers just for them to reach a certain score, it defeats the purpose of voting
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@ACuriousMind I agree. That was just a joke. :)
I retracted my vote
 
@YashasSamaga Sometimes I'm the opposite. I just upvote when I see it's heavily downvoted without realy deserving that many downvotes
 
I do that too lol
 
@ACuriousMind I was among those existing -17 :)
 
I almost always upvote a heavily downvoted answer/question if I find the answer/question to be justified.
 
1:22 PM
@YashasSamaga You should check out John Duffield's answers for sure :D
 
I hate to see the nasty graduate/undergraduate physicists downvoting an innocent high school student's question/answer.
 
@Mostafa That's not the purpose of voting either! It is supposed to reflect your opinion about the post, not your opinion about where exactly its score should be. If it gets heavily upvoted later on, would you come back and change the vote to a downvote?
 
just dousing out a curious mind's flame
3
 
@ACuriousMind you should play MGSV
 
(pun not intended)
5
 
1:23 PM
@0celo7 Now that I know that I don't need to beat a really hard boss at the start, I will, someday
 
:)
 
how do I add the partial derivative sign?
 
@YashasSamaga Uh, \partial?
 
@YashasSamaga \partial
 
1:24 PM
thank you
how do I add a closed line integral symbol?
 
You will find all the necessary math symbols there^
$$\oint_V f(s) \,ds$$
 
@ACuriousMind I don't agree on that. It's always bothered me whether I'm right or not, but I usually do this:
always upvote when a post was useful for me personally. But sometimes that I want to just do my _civic duty_ , I look at the current vote count. If I feel it deserves its votes I do nothing, and if I feel the current votes don't really reflect the quality of the post, I vote.
I guess most of the other users do the same.
For example, you see a good question on the site with 0 votes. it's not useful or interesting to you but you know it's well-posed. You should up-vote it.
 
@help can you point out the exact timeframe where the author did not consider the weight (or whatever force you meant) of the liquid?
 
@ACuriousMind But that same question (that wasn't particularly useful for me), if had 3 votes and I felt that 3 is a good score for it, I'd prefer not to do anything. (and I've gained this feeling by spending time on the site)
 
1:36 PM
@help What force ? A body cannot exert force on itself.
 
@YashasSamaga it is about 1:45
@anonymous a liquid particle can experience a force by other liquid particles
 
@ACuriousMind My only real problem with the gameplay is the cover system. It's very hard to stick to corners, and I'll have to replay a section four or five times because my head is sticking out just a little.
 
This is how we consider pressure by liquid $\rho gh$
 
It's very hard to maneuver precisely with a keyboard.
 
Use your pad.
:O
and here I thought we were pals
 
2:03 PM
@YashasSamaga are you saying he's a "flamer"?
 
@ACuriousMind Oh and there are these four-man outposts that are impossible to assault without getting discovered
 
@skillpatrol you are talking about?
 
The best you can do is distract them, run around and shoot them
But that uses up the suppressor (which is consumable for some reason)
And I can't find the fire selector so I'm constantly wasting ammo and suppressor life on unnecessary automatic fire
 
@YashasSamaga your (pun not intended) comment
 
I realized after I wrote the comment
 
2:08 PM
Ok.
 
that my previous statement said "a curious mind"
I just explicitly told everyone that I did not refer to respected moderator
 
I see.
 
I was talking about people downvoting high school student's Qs and As
so I wanted to say that by doing that they were demoralizing the person
 
2:27 PM
question here
so when you throw a pebble up
you use energy
and when the pebble reaches the maximum height it can get to
all the energy is converted to gravitational PE
then it comes back down
and the gravitational PE is converted to kinetic PE
and heat energy and frictional energy
but when it hits the ground
 
Yo @ACuriousMind, remember this one?
 
what is the energy transformed into then?
 
@MartianCactus sound, light, heat?
 
@EmilioPisanty Yep
 
2:29 PM
thats all?
 
is it me, or is it particularly full of crackpot-looking stuff?
 
i mean you dont always get light and the hear is negligible
there IS a little bit sound
 
@EmilioPisanty It's not you. :/
2
 
the object bounces back @MartianCactus
 
but it doesnt seem like all the gravitational energy has been converted
yeah
so
what energy transformation is that?
when it bounces back
 
2:30 PM
When the object hits the ground, the kinetic energy gets stored as "elastic" potential energy temporarily
 
where is it stored?
 
the elastic potential energy has a tendency to correct the deformation to some extent (usually not fully)
 
i dont really understand what elastic potential energy
 
take a spring
compress it
 
it will bounce back up
 
2:31 PM
the energy you have put in to compress the string is stored as elastic potential energy
or spring potential energy
yea it will bounch back up if you allow it to
 
during that process, the elastic potential energy is converted to kinetic energy
the ends of the spring move, right?
 
and otherwise there will be tension in the stinr
string*
 
they got the energy from the potential energy which was stored
 
yeah
and then what is that kinetic energy transformed into?
 
2:32 PM
@EmilioPisanty What drove you to look at that paper's citations?
Also note that a bunch of the crackpot material is by the same person, so it's less like hordes of cranks cite this and more that it's a few prolific ones.
 
2:48 PM
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Q: Charged Particle

Deeif a negatively charged particle is traveling anti-parallel to a uniform electric field, then would it's kinetic energy will be increasing? Could this be a valid statement?IF not what needs to be fixed?

interesting tags there ^
 
I think I had already placed an edit in the queue for that question a while ago.
 
yep, I accepted it already
 

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