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@MAFIA36790 no, not really
@MAFIA36790 It's an inertial pseudo-force in GR, like the centrifugal or Coriolis pseudo-forces.
@MAFIA36790 that statement you quoted is wrong
gravitation is very much a dynamic phenomenon
the statement you quoted doesn't really make any sense
@FenderLesPaul dynamics of what
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@FenderLesPaul: But..... It is by A.P. French :(
Dynamics of spacetime, sure.
03:01
A.P. French sucks
don't use it
Well, and dynamics of matter.
unless this is for a class
in which case sorry :(
I find the whole "force/not force" dichotomy to be boring and useless.
@0celo7 it's a dynamical field
that's all
@FenderLesPaul you don't need to tell me
03:02
I do
do you even know any GR
don't tell me what I don't need to tell you
boy
@FenderLesPaul Woman.
On the couch with you tonight
That's sexist
@FenderLesPaul Implying that's a bad thing.
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03:04
@FenderLesPaul: Well, most of the chapters are quite intuitive. I'm not getting why you are so anti-French :(
The French surrendered, that's why
We had to save their asses
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But well I respect others' opinion....
@MAFIA36790 I love the French
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@0celo7 I wanted to star it.
I think
Is this French's SR book?
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03:05
This man is still alive.....
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@FenderLesPaul No.
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14 mins ago, by MAFIA36790
I'm reading French's Newtonian Mechanics..... I got a line:
well either way
the statement is nonsensical
gravity is dynamical for both Newton and Einstein
my chest hair is asymmetric, huh
it might be an archaic use of the phrase "dynamical"
03:06
never really noticed that before
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@FenderLesPaul: What is dynamical actually?
mine is symmetrical
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Associated with force?
@FenderLesPaul yeah about that
you really need to shave
@MAFIA36790 define force
@MAFIA36790 dynamical means the underlying field or "particle" (gravitational field, electromagnetic field etc.) obeys some equation of motion
like Maxwell's equations or Einstein's equations or Newton's $F = ma$
03:08
Einstein equations
oooo what are those
you get them at Toys R Us
E=mc^2?
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@dmckee Principle of Equivalence?
@FenderLesPaul did you look at my blog
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@0celo7: Do you have a blog? Let me check your profile again.....
03:11
Oh it's not up there yet
I want to have some more material on there and make it look nice
I need to complete the conventions and definitions sections
and get a better picture for the top
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@0celo7 That puffy cat!
@MAFIA36790 yes, Einstein
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Most of the users here have blog.....
Why is your about blank?
@FenderLesPaul because I haven't written anything for it?
03:13
@MAFIA36790 Have you noticed that the usual pseudo forces are proportional to the mass of the object affected, then? Just like gravity That's not a coincidence.
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I could name Motl's The Reference Frame
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@dmckee Yes.
@dmckee I've never noticed that...
@0celo7 wow
rude
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But really, I was having problem suddenly in distinguishing kinematic and dynamic as they popped up in the lines
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03:15
@0celo7: One request from me....
@MAFIA36790 honestly I have to agree with @0celo7
@FenderLesPaul well, I just haven't written anything there!
@Slereah and I need to write that part sometime
the distinction between force and geometry in Newtonian gravity vs. GR is a misleading one
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If you've time, please make a recommendation-list of the books in GR for novices, for newbies, for laymen; whatever.....
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03:18
@FenderLesPaul French has a line that exactly goes like what dmckee said....
Yeah and?
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Wait.... I'm not Flash.....
wait
are you user3--- ?
the AC one
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Can I give a snapshot.....
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@0celo7 :( Yes.
03:20
why :(
Did you guess from the use of ellipsis?
you changed your name
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@0celo7 :)
@FenderLesPaul No, something else he said.
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03:21
At one time, I thought by AC you were meaning ACM.... but after that I could get.....
Dude I have a skype with Gary Horowitz tomorrow
eeeeeep
I hope I don't accidentally cry
I do that sometimes
Oh, I thought I was hurting you
Good to know
We can get out the spikes then
We agreed
to keep your BDSM to your plush dolls
I hope Gary steers the conversation
or it'll be awkward as fuck
@FenderLesPaul dude my advisor is teaching undergrad analysis for the first time ever next semester
and I'm in his class
What on earth are you two on about
03:25
it's going to be awesome
@FenderLesPaul Trying to stalk you on facebook led me to me getting traumatized forever
lol what?
right now his syllabus is all stuff you need for geometry and geometric analysis
@FenderLesPaul haha
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it's a funny story.
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03:26
@BernardMeurer: o/
I dont wanna know
@MAFIA36790 Hey there
@FenderLesPaul let's say it has to do with your...heritage.
@BernardMeurer I have a skype with a famous GR person tomorrow
hence why I'm on edge
@FenderLesPaul Define famous
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03:27
@FenderLesPaul: Done....check that passage.... that goes like dmckee, isn't it?
@BernardMeurer I would kill you to spend a day with him
that famous
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Famous means
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not unsung
WHO IS IT
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Infamous is the antagonistic famous
03:28
It's Lil Wayne
@MAFIA36790 Yes it does
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Let me google....
I'll go back to what I was doing
Good luck @FenderLesPaul :)
@BernardMeurer Thanks!
you can add me on fb if you want, I don't really use it though
do you have a snapchat?
I use that a lot
@0celo7 uses it a lot too
mostly just to send me pictures of GR books
03:30
@FenderLesPaul also Riemannian geometry books
That too
gotta get your daily fill of Riemann
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@FenderLesPaul: Googling gives me a hip-hop artist :(
@FenderLesPaul ocelot uses his snapchat to troll me
@BernardMeurer add meeee
03:30
@0celo7 What's my name there even
@BernardMeurer mine is ven.diagram
hahahahahaha
good one
@FenderLesPaul oh because your name is REDACTED
my name is what?
REDACTED
I can't give out your name
03:32
oh
yeah
it's the name of an Indian amateur pornstar
btw
@FenderLesPaul I just sent you the greatest snap ever
that's the horrible secret
It's true tho
03:32
for real? I never knew haha
that's amazing
when I tried searching you on facebook
I saw some weird, weird porn
HEY
my parents named me after a famous Cricket player
sent it to ocelot
@FenderLesPaul @BernardMeurer when you snap
always send it in a group
03:33
@BernardMeurer d'aww that's an adorable snap
wtf
LET ME SEE
now I'm the one receiving GR books
Who doesn't like GR books though
03:34
::raises hand::
why are we even friends
@Danu I dunno man....that was all that he said
Because I'm pretty like that?
I cant make the slightest sense of it
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@FenderLesPaul You follow cricket?
03:40
@MAFIA36790 nah dude
I don't know shit about Cricket lol
my parents just named me after some Cricket person
I don't watch any sports
@FenderLesPaul @BernardMeurer wow check your snap
I promise it's not a GR book
@0celo7 I just did and it was a geometry book
Riemann manifolds
@0celo7 wow
it was a GR book
plot twist
No
@BernardMeurer says here you didn't open it
@0celo7 ven is sending me real pictures
@0celo7 Wat
03:43
wtf!
@FenderLesPaul you never send me real pictures :(
@0celo7 he sent me one first
I returned the gesture
And mine had a thumbs up even!
do you reciprocate...all pictures?
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@FenderLesPaul: Apart from Gibson guitars, I'm not getting your name :(
fine, you two hate me
bye
03:45
@0celo7 yo send me one
@MAFIA36790 Fender also makes guitars
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@0celo7: Thanks for the book-recommendation.
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@FenderLesPaul oh!
@0celo7 in the couple of months that we've been snap chatting
I've only ever seen your GR books, your notebook, and your cat
I've shown you mountains
and glorious sunsets
feels a bit uneven!
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lol
@FenderLesPaul DON'T GET ME STARTED ON HIS BLOODY CATS
HE SENT ME SOME 500 PICTURES OF A VARIETY OF HIS FELINES FOR BLOODY WEEKS
03:52
hahaha
There's this cafe at Berkeley
that I have to send you a picture of when I get there
it's called "The Free Speech Movement Cafe"
lolol
Oh gosh
Had to be at Berkeley
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@FenderLesPaul I know Richard Muller!
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@BernardMeurer What happened about your admission?
03:55
Who's Richard Muller?
@MAFIA36790 At Berkeley? Denied
I'm just waiting on UPenn and Cornell, both at 5:00 PM EST on the 31st
and I'll be very honest, I don't even care anymore, I just want this thing to be over and for me to know
I hope you get into Cornell
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@BernardMeurer Tomorrow! All the best; that was pretty long.
so we can meet up!
@MAFIA36790 Thanks :); and yeah it was
@FenderLesPaul I'm hoping I get into either
I'm not very hopeful tho
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Richard A. Muller (born January 6, 1944) is an American professor of physics at the University of California, Berkeley. He is also a faculty senior scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Most recently, in early 2010, Muller and his daughter Elizabeth founded the group Berkeley Earth, an independent 501(c)(3) non-profit aimed at addressing some of the major concerns of the climate change sceptics, in particular the global surface temperature record. == Career == Muller, who grew up in the South Bronx, attended public schools in New York City, including PS 65 (on 141st St), Junior...
I have no idea why I just really think I ain't getting in
@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ Thanks man :)
@MAFIA36790 ohh
I don't know many professors at Berkeley
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@FenderLesPaul He went to jail for that Free Speech Movement...
just the string theory/gravity people and the pheno people
03:59
@FenderLesPaul couple of months?
@MAFIA36790 note
ok maybe 3 weeks
only Zee is actually an intro book
and maybe Carroll or Wald if you're really prepared
the others are "advanced"
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@FenderLesPaul: Can you define me kinematic?
@BernardMeurer dude
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@0celo7 okayish.
04:01
I only have one cat
@FenderLesPaul That cornell guy the other day gave me second thoughts about the place :p
Dude don't listen to that guy lol
he was a nutcase
What does that imply if I get in then :p
I mean he was nuts
you're clearly out of your mind
@MAFIA36790 kinematics typically refers to analysis of quantities without reference to the equations of motion
I must be damn mad if I get in
04:03
Hey I'm normal
I'm going to sleep, cheerio.
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@0celo7 (-_-)zzz
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G'night
@FenderLesPaul @MAFIA36790 Don't you guys know some indian get-into-college magic? I exhausted all my brazilian magic already
I mean, you guys have way more gods than we do, isn't there one for prospective undergrad students?
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04:06
As I said earlier, in India only marks matter; give a good shot in the entrance exams and you are in.
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That simple.
@BernardMeurer probably idk
I know as much about Indian stuff as you do
@FenderLesPaul I bet you don't
Also probably true
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04:07
@BernardMeurer Huh?
I'll find me some christian saint then
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Maybe some Voodoo.
I wish I had Indian get-into-college magic
then I could've gotten into my dream school
I guess technically that counts
04:07
but nooooo
You got into MIT dood
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@FenderLesPaul IIT?
what are you on about
What's IIT?
My dream school was Princeton
MIT is useless for what I want to do (classical/quantum gravity) :(
just my luck
No such thing as luck
TELL ME THE MAGIC
04:09
The magic
is to believeeeeee
@0celo7 told you the goblin looks like a mess..
Believe in yoself
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@FenderLesPaul Chris White is there.
04:10
Who's that
Walter white?
Oh that Chris White
I'll be with Chris White at Berkeley
We will be golf buddies
@ChrisWhite I hope you like golf
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Golf-minded
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I never could understand that holes game
04:12
I have never played golf
I played Wii Golf
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Hahahahaha
Are you going to kill him and take his place at princeton?
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@BernardMeurer Horrible!
@BernardMeurer Probably not tbh
Princeton </3
04:14
@MAFIA36790 What? It's a good plan!
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Oh! Have I told you guys about one genius who became murderer?
@FenderLesPaul weak
Man
this draft is not advancing at allll
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Meet this guy:
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Theodore John "Ted" Kaczynski (/kəˈzɪnski/; born May 22, 1942), also known as the "Unabomber", is an American anarchist, mathematical prodigy, and domestic terrorist. Between 1978 and 1995, Kaczynski engaged in a nationwide bombing campaign against people involved with modern technology, planting or mailing numerous homemade bombs, ultimately killing a total of three people and injuring 23 others. He is also known for his wide-ranging social critiques, which opposed industrialization and modern technology while advancing a nature-centered form of anarchism. Kaczynski was born and raised in Evergreen...
04:18
@FenderLesPaul Just get some lorem ipsum stuff
and put in the middle
the teachers don't read it
that's how I got through high school
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@BernardMeurer hahahahaha.....
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@BernardMeurer: See how many times he used cereal
@MAFIA36790 More worried about this
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04:25
O-O
Lol
this one
Feb 22 at 16:53, by Bernard Meurer
I'm not hostile you fucking cunt
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@BernardMeurer: Bloody Mary.
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@BernardMeurer Bloody shit!
That one's so good hahahaha
alrighty I'm off for the night
take care peeps
good luck @BernardMeurer
04:28
@FenderLesPaul Thank you man, papa bless
goodnight
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@BernardMeurer: I need to go too; all the best for tomorrow :)
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@FenderLesPaul: bye to you too o/
@MAFIA36790 It's only the day after tomorrow (because it's at new york time), but thanks!
and goodnight as well
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@BernardMeurer Damn IST!
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\o/
04:33
Is Berkeley a good university to go to for undergrad?
@JoshuaLin Yes, brilliant
Just got denied there :v
Does it have like really good research opportunities or something
aww :( wish you the best of luck for any other places you're applying for!
@JoshuaLin For starters it's name has the weight of an elephant if you care for that; it's got pretty awesome research in some fields and it has a lot of money as well. The weather is great and so is location
@JoshuaLin thanks :) just 3 left
05:19
Go to sleep @0celo7
 
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07:40
Hello
08:28
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Hello the Z
@HDE226868 sure, done (actually you might have been able to do it yourself)
@Slereah hi
08:51
Hello
Oh no it's Einstein
Lol
I have a doubt, would you help?
Where is The Evidence?
Electric field is a vector field? True/ False
Yes.
08:53
Yay! Thanks
I am making a wiki on Electric field lines. So needed help
Btw, I'm just a 9th grader :P
I wonder if trigger warnings in class is a thing that only happens in humanities universities
Maybe the science ones have trigger warnings for topology
Or cohomology
Trigger warning : We are going to use the axiom of choice in this class

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