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12:02 AM
@FenderLesPaul in a bit, doing the phone call rounds with the fam
 
@0celo7 alrighty
A man who puts family first
is a good man
or so I've heard
 
Awwww, phoning home. That's nice :)
 
not home
siblings around the world
 
I don't have siblings
I'm all alone in this world.
2
 
YOU COULD HAVE HAD A MOUSE
 
12:09 AM
:/
 
you could have had that
 
I can always catch one in the math institute's cellar...
 
I could go to Hess hall and do that
 
obe
@FenderLesPaul or @0celo7 I need some assistance please, can you do skype later?
 
start without me, I'll join
 
12:22 AM
@obe I gotchu breh
I've been ignoring this girl for 3 months
but she still texts me
Jesus Christ
 
is she hot
 
@0celo7 Please treat girls like actual human beings.
 
She's cute but she's also annoying as hell
she never shut up about Parks and Recreation
 
@ACuriousMind it's a legitimate question!
never seen that
 
12:24 AM
Me neither
@obe I'm on
 
@0celo7 It should not be the first question you ask about anyone.
 
schooled
 
@ACuriousMind My first question was "is she annoying"?
 
@0celo7 No, the first thing you wrote was "is she hot"
 
12:27 AM
What's more annoying than someone who asks "why are you ignoring me?" like 3 months after ignoring her lmfao
that logic just blows my mind
 
@ACuriousMind I got that from him ignoring her
 
That she's annoying to FenderLesPaul is pretty evident :P
 
@ACuriousMind an annoying girl can balance out by being hot
 
@FenderLesPaul Answer: "Because I don't like to talk to you."
 
@ACuriousMind I don't want to sound mean though :(
 
12:29 AM
@0celo7 That's a weird thing to say.
 
obe
Few people have ever texted me, none of whom was a female.
 
@FenderLesPaul you helping @obe
 
@FenderLesPaul Well, but it is the truth, isn't it?
 
@0celo7 yesh
 
@obe go outside
 
12:29 AM
@ACuriousMind it is indeed unfortunately
 
@ACuriousMind Not at all.
@FenderLesPaul please add me to that call
 
obe
Do you want to do a call?
I still don't have a working mic or webcam.
 
@0celo7 done
 
@FenderLesPaul thank
 
@0celo7 You believe physical attractiveness can make up for an ugly personality? Not as in "some people might be like that" but as in "I would be willing to overlook an ugly personality if she is 'hot'"?
@FenderLesPaul Then the truth is the only way out if she doesn't take hints.
 
12:33 AM
@ACuriousMind You make that sound really bad. (I'm not saying that.)
 
@0celo7 Then what are you saying by directly asking "is she hot"?
 
@ACuriousMind I'd delete it now if I could.
You're making me feel worse than usual about my dumb shit.
 
@0celo7 I don't want you to delete it - I want you to think about what made you ask that question.
 
@ACuriousMind yeah you're right
I'm just really bad when it comes to these things :p
 
@0celo7 I don't want to make you feel bad, really
 
12:37 AM
@ACuriousMind I know
 
@TanMath Uh, yes, I visit whenever I want.
I'm also pretty busy for the next few weeks.
If you have a specific question post it on the site and ping me so I know about it.
 
@what is the 20%
 
@DanielSank does that include now? I have a question about a specific open quantum system and also about experimental multichromophoric systems..
 
@FenderLesPaul Oh, I thought for a long time I was bad with people. Then I just realized that I just don't put up with anyone's shit. There are plenty of people out there who don't annoy you. Don't settle for the ones who do.
 
@ACuriousMind yeah that's pretty solid advice, thanks :)
 
12:44 AM
@ACuriousMind 1h 20min phone call with my sister
that's longer than I've ever called anyone
 
@0celo7 I also had my longest phone calls ever in the first weeks of university. From my point of view, that's completely normal :)
@FenderLesPaul It comes from some pretty annoying people I took far too long to get rid of :P
 
@ACuriousMind a cautionary tale!
 
...but is she hot? :p
 
@TanMath Here's a bit of really well-meant advice:
When you come to an online community for help, just ask your question.
 
@FenderLesPaul I've got plenty of those - I'm not that old and I already want to smack my younger selves for so many things.
 
12:58 AM
Do not say that you have a question.
Ask the question, and if anyone can and wants to help they will do so.
 
In all fairness, when someone brags about ignoring a girl for 3 months and then insults her for trying to communicate it is about the same (perceived!) level of viewing a girl as a piece of meat and nothing more, and furthermore asking if a girl is hot in no way treats her as less of a human being, that is a very perverse view of sexuality
 
@ACuriousMind like abandoning GR I hope
 
@ACuriousMind haha I think I can relate
 
@bolbteppa Woah... came into a deep conversation, apparently.
 
haha
 
12:59 AM
@bolbteppa I don't see where I was bragging? I said I didn't understand the logic.
if someone doesn't reply to me after a week I just move on
I don't keep texting them
it's not normal
 
Maybe she was busy, maybe she is dealing with stuff in her life, but you just abandon her instead of finding out what is up with her and why she didn't reply, I mean it's very easy to just ask if you don't like it
 
@bolbteppa what
 
@0celo7 I will never regret following the Quantum Path ${}^{\text{TM}}$
 
he's saying that's what he would have done if he were her
@ACuriousMind my intro nuke physics book is like 600 pages of Feynman diagrams and random scattering crap
 
@bolbteppa dude I meant a hypothetical girl
or guy
I wasn't talking about her ignoring me for a week lol
I'm not trying to be an emotional support hotline here
 
1:03 AM
Sure, my point is that if someone ignores you then it's most likely your fault
 
I mean that's fine if it is my fault
 
haha
 
I'm just saying I don't keep trying to contact the person for months on end if I get literally no reply
 
lol, I saw that @0celo7
 
it just doesn't make sense
 
1:04 AM
@DanielSank Here's my question: remember I sent you a link of a chatroom? Over there, there is some debug code... The debug code plots <3|rho(t)|3> (lazy to use MathJax!), which I integrate to find energy transfer efficiency... However, from the plots, it is clear that the integral won't converge.. What is wrong with my solution to the Lindblad Equation?
 
@ACuriousMind I saw an opportunity
 
oooh Snape
badumtiss
 
Okay cool
 
Potter!
 
1:05 AM
@FenderLesPaul what about him?
Anybody can pitch in to help me...
 
@TanMath I was making a dumb joke haha
 
@0celo7 ...for what, exactly? :D
 
Why isn't string theory easy :(
 
Don't worry about the qutip module.. All you need to know is that Qobj(x) converts x, a matrix or array, into the qutip format, and mesolve solves the Lindblad Equation, which takes in H, the hamiltonian, cops, the collapse operators, tlist, the times to evaluate rho(t) at...
@bolbteppa I wish it was easy... only if...
 
user54412
@ACuriousMind I just stumbled across the perfect Terry Tao blog post on the subject. I'll have to keep this around to send to any beginning mathematician types I meet.
 
1:18 AM
@bolbteppa because Witten
Witten is too smart for us
 
@TanMath I'm not really in the mood to do code review.
 
@ChrisWhite Nice!
 
Perhaps you should ask a colleague.
 
@ChrisWhite Send it to Jost.
Sitting on his throne at Max Planck.
 
1:41 AM
@DanielSank I don't have one...
@DanielSank ok.. fine.. tell me when you are! ;)
 
@ACuriousMind I hadn't heard of Stone's theorem. I guess this is just the finite dimensional operator analog of that though.
 
Rant: Stone's theorem should be taught in every quantum mechanics class - it single-handedly explains what the hell the Schrödinger equation tells us, why we can blindly differentiate continuous symmetries on the Hilbert space, and it leads into the Stone-von Neumann theorem telling us that the canonical commutation relations are equivalent to thinking of Fourier conjugate variables.
It's one of those things I very vividly remember thinking "Why the hell didn't anyone tell me this?" about when I first encountered it.
 
obe
@ACuriousMind None of my QM books have that in the index.
 
@obe I know!
And it frustrates me.
 
@ACuriousMind never heard of it
 
obe
1:56 AM
@ACuriousMind Huh where did you learn about it then?
 
@obe From my bachelor thesis advisor. He asked me why $\frac{\mathrm{d}}{\mathrm{d}s}\psi = \mathrm{i} A\psi$ would be the same as saying that $\psi(s) = \exp(\mathrm{i} A s)\psi(0)$.
After having valiantly explained why we need half-integer spin, I just gave up on that one.
I am still lobbying for him to do a QM lecture, but the other physicists think he's too much of a mathematician :P
@0celo7 How many of your books derive the general uncertainty relation for non-commuting operators?
 
@ACuriousMind because ODEs
@ACuriousMind I only have one QM book, Shankar
and he does
 
@0celo7 The subtlety here is that $A$ is an operator on an infinite-dimensional Hilbert space, it is not a matrix in the usual sense.
 
works either way
 
@0celo7 He is good, then. I've met too many people who seem to think the uncertainty relation is special to "x" and "p", and don't even know that we are talking about actual standard deviations.
 
2:10 AM
@ACuriousMind yes but he does not talk about your stone theorem
btw Stone von Neuman sounds like a dude's name
 
@0celo7 It is not needed for the uncertainty relation as such. I just asked about it because it is another one of my pet peeves :D
 
already making them get out the obscure stuff
 
@0celo7 Von Neumann did so much for the actual formulation of quantum mechanics - it's sad how little he is known compared to Schrödinger and Heisenberg.
I kept digging for rigorous ideas for quantum mechanics, and you find von Neumann this, von Neumann that. I would much like to get rid of "wave mechanics" and teach more of his stuff instead.
 
write a book!
@ACuriousMind I really need some functional analysis, don't I
I see no problem with treating Hilbert space operators as big matrices
 
@0celo7 To really understand quantum mechanics? Yes.
 
2:23 AM
@ACuriousMind give me a few years
 
Simplest way how they are not like (square) matrices: They may be injective, but not surjective, and surjective, but not injective.
 
@ACuriousMind how much functional analysis do you really know
I mean not quoting theorems
because you told me your analysis was not that good
 
Of operator theory, not much
 
but all these functional analysis books and classes say you really need a lot of analysis
 
Of Sobolev spaces, more than I would like :P
 
2:25 AM
is it just so dense that self-study is not reasonable?
because I feel that way about analysis
 
Also, I don't like analysis. That doesn't mean I'm not capable of doing it.
 
I just get really bored
so when you told me you didn't really know what a Lebesgue measure is?
you lied :O
 
Ah, measure theory I really don't know
 
pff
well what do you know
 
Because my lecturer didn't like it and introduced the "Lebesgue measure" rather ad hoc without anything about it as a measure.
 
2:27 AM
didn't like it?
how do you not like the one thing the formalism is good for
that's like a fiber bundle class not teaching curvature
 
He never even introduced what an "open set" was, he couldn't have introduced what a measure is.
 
open set is a set with parenthesis, not brackets
 
Or, at least, what a Borel measure is
 
do I get a cookie
 
You get a totally disconnected cookie.
aka crumbs :P
 
2:28 AM
lol
my dad was talking about holes in underwear the other day
I tried to teach him about the topology of underwear
did not work
 
lol
My parents berate me every time about not wearing matching socks.
 
you're antisocial
what is wrong with you
 
I tell them life is too short for sorting socks.
 
wtf you're insane
 
About two thirds of my friends also don't wear matching socks.
 
2:31 AM
that's a great form of birth control :P
 
My friends are not all male :P
 
@FenderLesPaul uhm they want 25 Euros
oh lol the Euro is shit
that's like $28
 
@0celo7 You notice that now?
 
Springer is hard core
I am Prof. Dr. Dr. P.E. M.D. h. c. mult. Unger.
is h. c. hermitian conjugate??
 
honoris causa
 
2:36 AM
yes I can google too
 
I think I've raised my bar
And I'm currently not sure if it's good or bad
 
bar?
 
@0celo7 What if I told you I did not need to google that?
 
@ACuriousMind you've seemed like a pretty chill guy until now
 
@0celo7 Standards
 
2:38 AM
@ACuriousMind you're in academia so
@KyleKanos for
 
obe
@KyleKanos Are you at 73% now?
 
Questions on this site
 
link?
 
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Q: Density of the Sun

Steve FarkusBeing either on the surface or somewhere inside; where is the density of the gases of the Sun equal to the density of the ground we stand on here on earth?

 
@0celo7 I don't see "insane" and "pretty chill" excluding each other :D
 
2:39 AM
@ACuriousMind you're like they guy down the hall who speaks with an accent and wears the strangest things
 
It's not a terribly good question, but I feel that me-a-few-months-ago might've upvoted it
I'm tempted to downvote it
 
Dmitri?
he's got this crazy mustache going on
 
@0celo7 Everyone tells me I don't speak with an accent.
 
@ACuriousMind yes but you're both strange is what I'm saying
then there's this other guy who walks around with Google glasses or something
 
@ACuriousMind I've met a few Germans who have little/no accent
And then some who have rather thick accents
 
2:41 AM
ACM has a slight one
standard educated German I think
 
I have never spoken German with him though
 
@0celo7 Never said I wasn't strange
 
I cannot confirm that ACM is German
although not being able to drive at 22 is definitely a Euro thing
literally every 15 year old over here can drive
 
@0celo7 I don't have a German accent, either, people are occasionally complaining because they cannot tell where I'm from.
 
2:43 AM
kinda scary when you think about it
@ACuriousMind what
how do you speak German and not have an accent
"not having an accent" does not make sense
@ACuriousMind tomorrow. Skype.
 
I speak pretty much Hochdeutsch, there's nothing in it that could tell you where I'm from.
 
ok
I lost my Dialekt
 
@0celo7 Can do.
 
too hard to remember all the words in two variants
 
I bet you just sound American now :P
 
2:46 AM
no
Dr. Hines' secretary was blown away
 
I'm learning german now thanks to Duolingo
 
Frau Göritz
she was so happy that someone could pronounce her name
@KyleKanos Skype?
 
I've heard of it
 
@KyleKanos I'm learning French on it...I haven't done much of it lately, though :/
 
why is there no Skype call
it would be fun
 
2:47 AM
Too complicated or something
 
we could do chat sessions via Skype
 
There's always mumble or something like it
 
@dmckee what's up?
 
@0celo7 You don't want to get in a shouting match with me, trust me :P
 
@ACuriousMind I could take you
also when do we get into shouting matches
@KyleKanos cool
 
2:49 AM
@0celo7 Think about how many different conversations can go on during a chat session
I would shout to get everyone's attention :P
 
lol I'm imagining a crazy scrawny German dude sitting in an apartment with mismatched socks, petting his "mouse", yelling about Stones and Neumans, with crazy topos runes etched into the walls
 
@ACuriousMind Well we each take a turn saying something
Also: Relocation subset of HR sucks. They're what is holding up my offer >:(
 
@KyleKanos Far too civilised for the blood of the Germanic barbarians that runs through my veins
@0celo7 I am not allowed to etch things into the walls :/
 
@ACuriousMind I'm half German
 
I won't, but I want to edit the title "am I attracting pluto" to "am I attracted to pluto?"
 
2:54 AM
I saw that :D
 
damn
well I am
gravity and all that
;)
 
@NeuroFuzzy lol, that would get even more silly upvotes :P
@0celo7 suuuuuuure
An in-person meeting of this chat's regulars would be hilarious.
 
Bet you \$1 we'd have nothing to talk about for ~30 seconds
 
With that thought, I'm off
 
@KyleKanos explain please
@ACuriousMind bye
 
2:58 AM
@0celo7 Awkward introductions and all. Take half a minute to get over it
 
we're all social animals
there would be no problem
well just look for the dude with the weird socks, that's ACM
we know what CW looks like
 
@0celo7 A lacrosse player
 
I should call him
 
@0celo7 that's pretty adorable
 
Well good to know that Ocelot (aka Ryan) is an internet creeper & we should all not use our real names
 
3:05 AM
how do you know my name
@KyleKanos I looked him up ages ago
 
Remember posting that?
 
hmm, that's not me
that's my roommate
 
1 min ago, by 0celo7
how do you know my name
Remember posting that?
 
9 hours ago, by 0celo7
I am an idiot
:'D
 
I'm getting a good laugh out of it too, btw
 
3:07 AM
my roommate must think I'm nuts
this is so funny
yes but as long as you don't know my last name, I should be good
 
Well you've spent the summer studying ST & GR, so you must be nuts
 
no
I did an internship
I hardly did any physics actually
too much Skyrim for that
 
I do wish people would stop saying "there's no such thing as a stupid question". It's simply untrue. In any given context, there are stupid questions. And given almost any specific answerable question, there exist contexts where it is a stupid question. — EnergyNumbers yesterday
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Q: What is this fish?! Is it even real?

AndyWarrenAccording to a guy in a Facebook group I belong to, this fish was caught in the Missouri River near Omaha, NE, US. I have never seen one like it in my life, not in person or photo or anywhere. What on earth is this fish?! Is it even real? I've not seen it in person, only the photo below, but he s...

I'd answer the question as Dinner.
 
do it
 
Not worth the effort required to get an account and post it
 
3:19 AM
@KyleKanos what
 
No clue
 
4chan's intelligence is not increasing
gotta get some sleep for the first day of school
 
3:42 AM
Did you get your official offer? @KyleKanos
 
 
1 hour later…
user54412
4:57 AM
I just spent the last half hour looking for a quick and dirty way to take a 2D Fourier transform of an image. All the online applets are so old I can't get them to work, the python 1-liners depend on modules I can't figure out how to install, the imagemagick command also doesn't work.
 
user54412
In this time I could have written my own image reader and FFT function in C, and optimized it as well.
 
user54412
Lesson learned.
 
12:14 PM
@KyleKanos foxnews.com/us/2015/08/19/… I guess there's more than one way to make money.
Hmm, they're suggesting he's buying the shares to get on the board and ruin the companies? Damn, that's dedicated.
 
Dedicated to what, making money?
Shouldn't you be in classes :P
Seriously, you should cut back on your internet chat time until you get settled in.
Focus is important.
 
12:29 PM
@skullpatrol Leave him alone you internet bully :P
 
Oh. You are two different people.
 
Nah, @GraceNote I'm just having fun...
 
So you two are the same?
 
Ahha, gotcha gotcha.
 
12:34 PM
:O
 
@skillpatrol 25 minutes
 
till class?
 
yes
actually 30 minutes
sitting in the study area in the math building
I woke up way too early
 
nervous?
 
only that the professor sent me some stuff last night and I have no idea what it is
like 16 assignments due today
that can't be right :/
 
12:39 PM
-_-
talk about weeding them out early...
 
it's not a freshman class
 
orly?
 
yes, the prerequisites are calc 1&2
 
so that basically makes it a second year course
 
@ACuriousMind just saw one of these guys scurrying across the floor of Ayres (main math building)
I'm not even in the basement...
 
12:46 PM
must be an old building
 
I think it's the oldest?
1921
it seems the really old buildings were destroyed in the War of Northern Aggression
the ones build after have been knocked down
 
@DavidZ : Where is the image upload page for se.imgur? Do you just use regular imgur.com and manually change the URL i.imgur.com/xxxxxxx.png into i.se.imgur.com/xxxxxxx.png?
 
@Qmechanic I find it interesting that you linked imgur.com.
 
@0celo7 : Why?
 
@Qmechanic I can't find a reason for it.
Everyone knows what imgur.com is.
@skillpatrol the oldest building is the theoretical physics one.
@ACuriousMind I'll go mouse hunting there
 

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