The h Bar

Kyle Kanos

01:26

@JamalS Having an advanced degree does not immunize you from acting like an idiot.

Kyle Kanos

03:27

-4

Q: Need immediate help with attached questions (due 12/10 midnight)

I need immediate help (until 12/10 midnight) with my final questions. I am really struggling and any help will be really appreciated. Questions are in this link: http://imgur.com/a/A5sgN#0 Please let me know, if you request to be paid in return. Looking forward to hearing from you guys. Kasey

newtonian-mechanics

Nice that he/she is offering to pay us...

Physics Meta

06:31

0

Q: Of which thing in physics is the logo (graph) of physics.stacexchange.com

Since I visited physics.stackexchange, I am really curious what function has such a graph or is it just random. I am referring to the graph logo of this stackexchange community

discussion soft-question

user54412

06:57

@KyleKanos In answer to your question, I'm guessing U. of Arizona -- its A ME 250 course description matches the questions pretty well

user54412

then again, it's "usually offered" only in spring, so maybe not?

David Z

07:17

14

Q: Low quality of election nominees

I recently noticed that elections for 3 moderator positions were going to be held. I looked through the list of candidates so far, and actually found people with, like 500 reputation, among the candidates. Also, I found that all votes were given equal value. So, I am posing 2 direct suggestions r...

discussion feature-request moderators election

This is happening on Mathematics

In light of this I wonder if we have any latitude to tweak the requirements for people to nominate themselves for a moderator election on this site. (Not that we have any specific plans for one, but presumably it'll happen sooner or later, and any requirements should be set well in advance)

user54412

Well, perhaps a first step is running those queries on our user base to see where things stand

David Z

Good idea

user54412

Though it seems weird to worry about electing a poor moderator -- that requires poor nominees and misguided voting, so you really have to not trust the community

David Z

I don't think we'd have the same problem with frivolous nominations that they do on Math anyway, so it probably doesn't matter

@ChrisWhite be a moderator for long enough and you won't trust the community either :-P (just kidding)

user54412

Just to be clear, are there any barriers to nomination, here or on math?

David Z

07:24

I think you need 300 rep and a certain amount of time having been a member on the site - two weeks or something?

There are some barriers but they're currently quite low for us. I don't remember the details.

58

Q: There's an election going on. What's happening and how does it work?

The community bulletin says that there is a moderator election occurring. How does the election work and how can I get involved? Return to FAQ index

support faq election election-page

user54412

I guess that is a bit low, considering I seem to be able to nominate myself on math for 1 question and 3 answers

David Z

Yeah, which is why you get all the random nominations on Math from people who don't seem like they'd be particularly good moderators

user54412

Given that math moderators seem to always be under attack, and they all burn out or rage quite eventually, I don't know why anyone wants that job

David Z

I think a lot of people who aren't moderators don't really know exactly what it takes to be a good moderator. Even if we don't/can't change the requirements, a meta post along the lines of "anyone who does not meet X/Y/Z criteria, I would not consider a serious candidate" might be useful, to help inform the voting.

And it should be done well in advance so it doesn't look like we're trying to skew the vote toward one particular person.

@ChrisWhite hehe, true. Good thing our site isn't like that.

Sometimes I browse Math meta to make myself feel better :-P

user54412

News flash from the hot questions list: @ is the matrix multiplication operator in python 3.5!? What... just... why?

David Z

07:33

I was reading that PEP just an hour ago. I actually like the idea. It's not necessary but it's going to make numerical coding in Python way more convenient.

@ is a questionable choice of symbol but it really was the most practical option available.

user54412

Back to mod elections: while I'm not necessarily against having reasonable (soft or hard) limits on who can run, the egalitarian anti-oligarchic American in me worries very much about giving more votes to those with more rep.

ManishEarth

@DavidZ Meh. New people no get votes.

user54412

What about a fee of around 100 rep? This would put off low rep users and filter in the more serious ones. — Alizter 14 hours ago

user54412

^^ Poll taxes

David Z

@ChrisWhite Oh, yeah, I'm with you there. Beyond a cutoff to ensure that anyone who votes has some experience with the site, that seems like a pretty counterproductive idea.

user54412

07:43

It's like a microcosm of everything wrong with democracy over there -- incompetent candidates, mob rule vs. enfranchised elites

David Z

haha

someone should do a political study on Math SE elections

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JamalS

@DavidZ: What would be your criteria for a good moderator?

David Z

For a good moderator, hm... someone who is diplomatic, who has been at least somewhat active on the site long enough to be familiar with it (I want to say 6-8 months or so), who has demonstrated a good understanding of our scope, ideally who basically knows how close votes, edits, and review queues work

and someone who actively participates in meta and chat

ManishEarth

Who wants to join the Manishearth SuperPAC?

user54412

me me me!

user54412

07:48

you do have cookies, right?

David Z

Depends, am I paying or getting paid? :-P

Cookies are indeed acceptable currency

JamalS

Do you offer chocolate instead?

David Z

Actually cookies would be fantastic currency. It's hard to find a decent chocolate chip cookie in China.

ManishEarth

Had the most amazing sugar cookies at Portland last week

And it was part of a conference.

You could scarf down as many as you wanted :D

JamalS

@DavidZ You could always make them yourself :)

David Z

07:50

@JamalS other things that are hard to find in China: chocolate chips, milk, and flour

user54412

@DavidZ well duh. Ever tried eating a chocolate chip cookie with chopsticks? :P

David Z

@ChrisWhite I tried eating other kinds of cookies with chopsticks. It's not that hard actually.

Come to think of it, I should just eat plain chocolate chips with chopsticks.

user54412

@DavidZ that idea is so amazing, I'm going to do that right now

JamalS

It's early morning, but now I want to eat my chocolate truffles, with chopsticks!

user54412

@DavidZ so why are you in China anyway?

David Z

07:54

@ChrisWhite I have a postdoc here

user54412

Oh cool! I missed the memo about you becoming a postdoc it seems.

David Z

Well there wasn't really one, unless you follow me on Twitter (or unless you read my blog)

JamalS

@DavidZ What's your twitter?

user54412

That would require visiting other places on the internet, which I've never been brave enough to do.

David Z

@JamalS @ellipsix (it's on my SE profile)

JamalS

07:57

@DavidZ: I like what it says on the back of your shirt :)

David Z

Oh, yeah, I think that was the one from my undergrad classical mechanics class

Danu

12:44

Does anyone have any idea how the Poincare patches (in dS and AdS spacetimes) got their name?

ACuriousMind

12:54

@Danu I'm not sure at all, but could it be because the AdS (which is a hyperbolic space) in quite the same way as the Poincare disk models 2D hyperbolic space?

because *they model

I really need to proofread the stuff I write...

David Z

@Danu wouldn't that be a good HSM question?

@ChrisWhite you know Twitter is big among early-career researchers, especially in astronomy

Danu

@DavidZ I know, I was thinking about this

@ACuriousMind ...but what about dS (I encountered it there for my bachelor's thesis)

ACuriousMind

I can't even find out how the Poincare patch in dS looks (I hadn't heard the term before), so I got nothing for that.

Go ask that SE of yours! ;)

Danu

13:23

Done

Kyle Kanos

14:25

@ChrisWhite That's what I thought too, given my Google Fu (both the UA & Spring only offering). ND has an AME 250 course as well. I'm not too worried about it, I guess

DumpsterDoofus

17:26

Hey, if anyone wants a fairly easy 50 bounty plus upvote plus accept on MathSE, I have a question about co/contravariance of equations at math.stackexchange.com/questions/1053789/…. I'm bad at understanding how curvilinear coordinates work, so it should probably be fairly easy for anyone who is good at general relativity.

Sofia

@DanielSank it's the first time that I am in this "chat-room" as you call it. Daniel, don't you have an e-mail? My question about spontaneous emission is a hard question. The topic is not trivial. I tried to explain in brief, and got a message of "too long".

ACuriousMind

@Sofia You can split up what you wanted to write into multiple messages, there's nothing speaking against that. (If you want to discuss a particular question in detail, it might be better to start a new room for that, though)

Sofia

@ACuriousMind I don't have the right to open a room. Does Daniel have a room?

ACuriousMind

@Sofia Probably not, but I think he should be able to start one (he's not currently in this room, though)

Sofia

@ACuriousMind: Aaa! Then, I am practically sending a letter to the wind. But, tell me, how do you use this "room"? Everyone that gets into the room reads the questions posted to him?

Kyle Kanos

17:42

yep, it's just like good old AOL chatrooms

ACuriousMind

@Sofia It's...just a chat room, really. You can come here to ask the people present (physics) questions, but you can also talk about whatever else is on your mind. Basically, as the name h bar suggests, it's just a place for physics.SE people to hang around ;)

Sofia

@ACuriousMind: I see.

Kyle Kanos

Fast link-only-spam-bot:

rush_pcb

1

acoustics capacitance electric-fields electrostatics homework-and-exercises newtonian-mechanics potential-energy

Signing it with a website address too

user54412

18:16

And I thought Americans were supposed to be the impolite tourists. I now have the sudden urge to punch someone to demonstrate the true meaning of "openly hostile."

Kyle Kanos

@ChrisWhite Haha, OP rolled back the edit because it "lost the meaning" of his words

user54412

As long as we have the NSA, it may as well do something useful and track that person to make sure he never enters the country.

user54412

In other frustrated news, I'm editing tex documents written by a bunch of people in my department, and the things they do would make Knuth cry

Kyle Kanos

Like what?

user54412

like they for some reason turned off all paragraphs and they manually insert blank lines and indentations each time they're needed

Kyle Kanos

18:30

Don't they know how to program in Latex?

user54412

I... don't think so

user54412

they also only use tex primitives

Jim

That's like when people hit enter multiple times in Word instead of using page break. Or when they manually make a table of contents. It's infuriating

user54412

this source code should be turned into a PSA: "Kids, this is your brain on IDL/IRAF"

Qmechanic

19:36

0

Q: How are dimensions indicated in physics equations?

The universe is often described as being 4-dimensional (having 3 spatial dimensions + the dimension of time). Some theories (such as some string theories) consider the universe as having even more dimensions. In some cases, some of the dimensions are viewed as "curled up". For example: accordin...

dimensions notation

Should this question be on-hold? E.g. the accepted answer does not seem to answer the question in the question formulation. Or alternatively: it is unclear what OP is really asking.

user54412

@Qmechanic I think you're taking the OP's words too literally. When they say "dimension" they often mean "coordinate" -- they aren't looking for dimension counting, but rather notation for specifying which coordinate is being used.

user54412

They've probably only seen basic vectors, and they're wondering if v^1, v^2, v^3, ... extends to v^{10} or if something else happens (I dunno, maybe v^1_a, v^3_b?)

Kyle Kanos

Oh dear that latter notation would be so terribly confusing

DanielSank

@Sofia: In case you come back here, I am more than happy to discuss your question at length either here or via email. My email is available on my user profile.

Phonon

19:54

@ACuriousMind there we go with wavefunctions and collapsing again... :))

Kyle Kanos

Interesting....

0

Q: How to reinstall leather laces on Sperry's boat shoes?

Every question that involves friction and force is a physics question. Bear with me. Sperry's are boat shoes with leather laces running through several eyes along the sides of the shoes. I removed these and replaced them with cotton laces, but installing them took quite a bit of effort. The insta...

forces everyday-life friction

user54412

haha -- recently it was pointed out to me that everyone in Princeton wears those shoes (while dressed like they're about to go yachting)

Kyle Kanos

Yeah, it's a style down here in Clemson as well

Danu

21:01

Does anyone have a really solid explanation of why we should exclude disconnected diagrams in QFT?

I mean something better than 'vacuum to vacuum stuff shouldn't contribute' which is what I've been hearing till now

ACuriousMind

@Danu We don't exclude them, but, when calculating n-point functions, they are automatically divided out since the partition function is precisely the contribution of disconnected diagrams!

(And the need to divide by the partition function is there both in the path integral and in the LSZ operator formalism)

Danu

21:31

This post that popped up on facebook made me laugh pretty hard: "After truly believing that I want to become a gynaecologist for almost two years, I give up this inspiring idea after following this course for 3 weeks... Too much, just too much..."

@ACuriousMind So why exactly are we dividing them out

(I know we do, that's what I meant by 'exclude')

Also, does anyone have something for drawing Feynman diagrams that's better than Jaxodraw? In particular, I'd like to label my lines

ACuriousMind

@Danu In the path integral formalism, because that's what you do when you take the expectation values w.r.t. non-normalised partition functions. In the LSZ operator formalism, I don't see any particular "reason" except for "It's what comes out if you go through the LSZ derivation of Feynman rules/n-point functions"

Kyle Kanos

Well, outside of the fact that $dt$ is running down to $10^{-9}$, my cute 2D MHD code is working smoothly

Danu

@KyleKanos Sounds legit

@ACuriousMind "because that's what you do"?

Kyle Kanos

@Danu It is pretty legit

Danu

Let's say I start naively with $Z[j]$ for a scalar field

why should I think that my vacuum bubble diagrams are unphysical?

ACuriousMind

21:40

@Danu Purely statistical: Given a "probability" distribution $f$ with partition function $\int f$, the expectation value of any $g$ is $\frac{\int fg}{\int f}$

Danu

and then decide to take $iW[j]=\log Z[j]$ as the 'real deal'

@ACuriousMind I get that, but I don't think that's what this is

In particular, you can already normalize $Z[j]$ with no problems

Kyle Kanos

Can I interject a dumb question:

What're you talking about?

:D

Danu

@KyleKanos Path integral

Kyle Kanos

Okay

At least there's a reference that I can get to

Danu

:D

Kyle Kanos

21:42

Also, there's always FeynMP

Danu

yeah, but I hate that type of input, it's real cumbersome for someone like me who has like 0 computer skillz

Kyle Kanos

So LEARN

You are a student, no?

I really wish Twitch emotes worked here

Because I totally would have entered Kappa right after LEARN above

Danu

@KyleKanos Keepo

@KyleKanos It's not that I can't learn it, it's that I know that Jaxodraw is better anyways lol

Kyle Kanos

That's a better reason

Danu

...but I want to have something even better

DanielSank

21:46

Anyone around here know much about stochastic processes?

Kyle Kanos

I picked that up

@DanielSank I know some

ACuriousMind

@Danu Yes. And in normalizing $Z[j]$, you also divide by $Z[0]$, which is again the partition function, i.e. the contribution of disconnected diagrams

Danu

@ACuriousMind No

Kyle Kanos

@Danu feyndiagram.com ?

Danu

Ah, I see what you're saying though

@ACuriousMind I think we're slightly talking past each other

but I think I now understand what you're saying

@KyleKanos I can't program :\

..."familiarity with C is assumed" :(

DanielSank

21:52

Alright, I have a question I've posted on a few SE sites but never got any info. Here we go:
Suppose I tell you that I have a process with a particular spectral density and unconditional distribution. Now suppose I tell you that at time $t=0$ the process has value $V_0$. What is the conditional distribution of the process at $t=T$?

Kyle Kanos

@Danu Again: LEARN (Kappa)

@DanielSank Sounds like a martingale

wait

DanielSank

@KyleKanos: waiting...

:;

;)

Kyle Kanos

You want $\mathbb{P}\left(X(T)=x|X(0)=V_0\right)$

DanielSank

yep

Kyle Kanos

For process $X(t)$

(sorry for delay, I was distracted by a pair of comments on the main)

DanielSank

22:00

@KyleKanos: I'm just teasing.

Kyle Kanos

I know that (there's some winks)

Is $X(t)$ discrete or continuous?

DanielSank

continuous.

Kyle Kanos

@Danu: physics.stackexchange.com/a/73052/25301

DanielSank

I believe there is a theorem called "Doob's theorem" which gives the answer to this question, but I haven't found an actual explanation of what the theorem says!

@KyleKanos: There's this mathworld.wolfram.com/DoobsTheorem.html, but some of the variables aren't defined

Kyle Kanos

@Danu: pen.phys.virginia.edu/links/academic-software.html

Well for continuous cases, we normally use$\mathbb{P}(X=x|Y=y)=\mathbb{P}(X=x,Y=y)/\int\mathbb{P}(X=x,Y=y)dx$.

Danu

22:12

Thanks Kyle!

Also, my damn latex is not working

It's giving me mad trouble with pictures all of a sudden

I had always simply been using things like

\includegraphics[width=0.4\textwidth]{Danu.pdf}

but all of a sudden that doesn't work anymore (?!)

DanielSank

@Danu: That should work.

What's the error.

Danu

Cannot determine size of graphic in Danu.pdf (no BoundingBox). ...udegraphics[width=0.4\textwidth]{Danu.pdf}

looking it up online gives really strange stuff

that shouldn't be happening here

I havent messed with my compiler or anything

DanielSank

Are you using pdflatex?

Danu

...I think so?

DanielSank

(Also, btw, there is a TeX SE site!)

Danu

22:14

I know

am I doing something wrong?

Kyle Kanos

Yes: you're a scientist using Windows

:D

DanielSank

@KyleKanos: That is not so helpful :\

Kyle Kanos

I know

But he knows I'm pulling his leg

ACuriousMind

@Danu: Have you opened the .pdf in another viewer while trying to compile?

DanielSank

Actually I've found that the windows packages work better than the Linux ones.

Danu

22:16

Screw elitist nerds :D

@ACuriousMind no

I really don't like Linux - just because of all those angry nerd types that advocate it :)

Kyle Kanos

Go all the way: go Unix

ACuriousMind

Unfortunately, I use MikTeX, not TeXStudio, so I cannot say if any of your settings are off.

Kyle Kanos

Since I haven't actually used a Windows machine for not-Word purposes in about 6 years, I'm useless on this one

DanielSank

@Danu: I've used both OS's extensively and I prefer Linux for desktop work. For experiments in the lab Windows is often necessary. They serve their purposes. This is not the place for that argument :)

Anyway, this probably has nothing to do with the OS.

@Danu: How did you generate the pdfs?

Danu

@DanielSank What do you mean

@ACuriousMind Are you using the standard editor that comes with it? If that's the case, you should really try a different one, the standard one is pretty bad in comparison; it's a nice upgrade

DanielSank

22:19

@Danu: Where did the pdf you're trying to use come from? How did you make it? Inkscape?

Danu

No, it's just a picture

the same problem happens with any picture now

there's somethins seriously wrong with TeXStudio, not the picture

DanielSank

@Danu: Make a new tex document which does nothing besides render the image. Does that work?

ACuriousMind

@Danu Hm. I think so. TeXworks is the standard front end, isn't it?

DanielSank

@ACuriousMind: There is no standard.

Danu

no

DanielSank

22:21

@Danu: Did you make a new file which only makes the picture?

Phonon

@Danu probably easiest just to re-install your distribution to have the default setting again

Danu

@ACuriousMind It is the standard front end (comes with MikTeX when you install it). Really, give Studio a try

@DanielSank yes, and it doesn't work

DanielSank

@Phonon: Ack! No! Don't do that.

Danu

@Phonon I dont think it's the distribution, but the editor

My distribution has always been working fine (I use it daily)

haven't done pictures for quite some time though

ACuriousMind

Yes. Yes, I think instead of further smashing my head against the wall that is this week's excercise sheet, I will test different TeX frontends :D

DanielSank

22:23

@Danu: You made a new file which only includes the picture, right? There are no packages imported besides graphicx or whatever it's called?

Phonon

@Danu ah ok, then nvm. I ve always used texmaker as editor, never had any issues.

Danu

and may have changed some settings when I started using biblatex

DanielSank

(+1 for TeXMaker)

Danu

so... any suggestions?

DanielSank

@Danu: I'm waiting for confirmation that you tried building a file with no biboiography and absolutely no package imports except for the graphics one.

Danu

22:25

I already told you, I did

:)

DanielSank

Just checking. People lie about that all the time.

Phonon

@Danu no clue :( have you tried the tex.SE chatroom?

DanielSank

@Danu: Ok, now try doing it via command line. No IDE.

Danu

@DanielSank I don't know how to do that (computer n00b here)

DanielSank

@Danu: Probably type pdflatex.exe my_tex_file.tex

@omg you're on Windows 8?

Danu

22:28

I'm on windows 8 yes

DanielSank

Do you know how to get a command line shell?

Danu

I know what cmd.exe is, that's about as far as it goes

DanielSank

ok

run that

then type pdflatex.exe or pdflatex

Does that do anything/

Danu

yeah

seems fine

"this is pdflatex blahblah"

I really think it's my editor

DanielSank

That's what we're checking.

@Danu: Go to the directory with your super duper simple .tex file which only imports the image and pdflatex it.

Danu

22:31

@DanielSank you mean in cmd.exe?

how do I copy paste in cmd again? I forgot

oh yeah with my mouse

what would the command be?

path/etc/file.tex and then what?

DanielSank

@Danu: First,
cd path\to\my\files

then
pdflatex my_tex_file.tex

Sofia

@DanielSank: I was looking for you. Can we continue our dialog on spontaneous emission?

DanielSank

@Sofia: Of course. I guess your rage toward me has subsided :)

@Sofia: It seems the thing that puzzles you is that the vaccum can cause anything to happen at all, yes?

Sofia

@DanielSank: I forgot. Who has time for such things! My rage is an the weather after rain. There follows a brilliant sun, ans splendid weather.

Danu

@DanielSank gives me not much interesting

DanielSank

22:36

@Danu: Great! Did it produce a pdf?

Danu

No

DanielSank

@Danu: :(

Sean Allred

@Danu What exactly does it say?

DanielSank

@Danu: Um... what was printed to the console?

Sean Allred

A screenshot is fine since cmd.exe can't do the copypasta very easily

Sofia

22:38

@DanielSank: please see, it is a very serious issue. I would be glad, if we can have a profound talk on it.

DanielSank

@Sofia: I'm trying.

I want to understand exactly what's confusing you!

Danu

it just returns this

imgur.com/wRvVLlh

DanielSank

@Sofia: I think the best way to start this is to begin with something simpler than the continuous vacuum. May we instead start with a two level system coupled to a harmonic oscillator.

@Danu: That... doesn't make sense. That's all it printed?

Danu

@DanielSank yup

DanielSank

@Sofia: Are you comfortable with the idea that the vacuum is actually a continuous set of harmonic oscillators?

Sean Allred

22:42

@Danu that's it?

Not even a version banner?

(a banner being the first line printed)

Sofia

@DanielSank: no, Daniel, no! I'll tell you the issue. By the way, whatever you explained me in your comments, is known to me. In fact, I have some after-thoughts whether it is not a too heavy problem for this frame. But, I will tell you and you'll see.

DanielSank

@Sofia: "No" to which part?

Danu

second try gives this

imgur.com/r3nC9tI

Sean Allred

(Y'all physics people be cray.)

DanielSank

@Danu: There's an error in the source file! It tells you so right there.

Sean Allred

22:44

Ooook :)

Sofia

@DanielSank: no, to the need of beginning from a two-level system.

DanielSank

o

Sean Allred

@Danu Type this: vvv

DanielSank

@Danu: Are there spaces in your file name?

Sean Allred

pdflatex.exe "C:\Users\Danu\Dropbox\Academics\Curriculum Vitae.tex"

DanielSank

22:45

@SeanAllred: yep.

Sean Allred

Spaces in a file name makes everything more complicated. Use hyphens or underscores

DanielSank

@Danu: Don't EVER put spaces in a file name for the rest of your life for any reason. Don't do it for money. Don't do it for glory. Don't do it for God and/or country.

5

Danu

That's the path, not the file

DanielSank

@Danu: Do what SeanAllred says, please.

Sean Allred

@Danu It's part of the file name, for this purpose

Sofia

22:46

@DanielSank: let me spare you guesses. Can we have some talk on Saturday? Now, it's past midnight in my country. What is the time now, there where you are? What is the difference between our clocks?

DanielSank

It's 14:45 here.

Danu

@SeanAllred undefined control sequence

Sean Allred

Use forward slashes then. TeX will know what you mean.

DanielSank

@Danu: pdflatex.exe "C:/Users/Danu/Dropbox/Academics/Curriculum Vitae.tex"

Sean Allred

(Although it shouldn't be a problem... unless....... are you running pdflatex and then, when it's running, typing in the file name? Because that won't work. (You can \input the filename, which would be appropriate, but that's a complication.))

Danu

22:48

no new results :P

DanielSank

@Danu: But actually, what you should do is rename the file curriculum_vitae.tex

Danu

not undefined, but ? again

the file is NOT CV.tex

Kyle Kanos

Or CV.tex

Danu

the file is test.tex guys

DanielSank

@Danu: Let's stop this foolishness. Rename the file to something without spaces.

Danu

22:48

I already said that

Sean Allred

Sorry -- I'm relatively new to the convo :)

DanielSank

@Danu: That's not what your screenshot says.

Sofia

@Aha! Very well! Then, I intend to look for you on Saturday. Tomorrow and after tomorrow re too busy days for me. O.K. ?

Sean Allred

@DanielSank I believe it is, though

Danu

@DanielSank look again

DanielSank

22:49

@Sofia: I can't guarantee I'll be hanging around waiting for you all day on Saturday.

Sean Allred

pdflatex "C:/Users/Danu/Academics/Curriculus Vitae/test.tex"

Danu

the file is test.tex, the folder it's in is curriculum vitae

Sean Allred

@Danu ^^^ but please rename your folder

DanielSank

GET RID OF THE DAMN SPACES

:)

Sean Allred

@DanielSank chill breh XD

Danu

22:49

this is what I was talking about when I talked about "angry" earlier

Kyle Kanos

CAPITAL LETTERS MAKE ME ANGRY

Sean Allred

@Danu as with all things internet, take it with a grain of salt :)

Danu

It still doesn't do anything

folder is now called CV

DanielSank

@Danu: What does "doesn't do anything" mean? Error message?

Danu

it does not help

it gives the rerun blahblah again

with a ? at the end

Sean Allred

22:51

@Danu Alright. Crash course in the command line coming up.

Kyle Kanos

I am beginning to understand why @Danu is not a computationalist :D :) ;)

Danu

@KyleKanos :D

too young

Never had to do this stuff

Kyle Kanos

The files go in the computer!?

Sean Allred

The stuff before the first > is your current folder. You want to cd (short for Change Directory) into the folder with your TeX file

So, cd Dropbox (enter), etc.

DanielSank

@Danu: Please post a screenshot of test.tex.

Sofia

22:52

@DanielSank:
Very well! Then, I intend to look for you on Saturday. Tomorrow and after tomorrow re too busy days for me. O.K. ?

@DanielSank Very well! Then, I intend to look for you on Saturday. Tomorrow and after tomorrow re too busy days for me. O.K. ?

Sean Allred

From TeX.SX chat:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\begin{document}
\includegraphics[width=0.4\textwidth]{Danu.pdf}
\end{document}

Danu

^

Kyle Kanos

as

DanielSank

@Sofia: Sure, I hope we will meet.

Sean Allred

@danu rest assured your TeX file is correct (as long as Danu.pdf exists)

Sofia

22:53

@DanielSank: excellent!

Danu

Btw guys, I really think we're overdoing this. I'm pretty sure there's simple thing I messed up in the settings of TeXStudio

(no offense and all)

Sean Allred

@Danu you're correct, but it would be good to understand what TeXstudio is doing

Kyle Kanos

DanielSank

@KyleKanos: Ok, we get it :)

Kyle Kanos

Took me forever to get it

Sean Allred

22:54

@Danu But if you prefer -- somewhere in TeXstudio there is a menu option called run or build or sompile or something like that

Kyle Kanos

I'm now using a Mac because I'm proctoring an exam

Stupid Meta key instead of CTRL key

Danu

@SeanAllred ...I know this! I gave you screenshot of it lol

Sean Allred

Force run pdflatex instead of latex

DanielSank

@SeanAllred: He pasted a link to a screenshot above.

Danu

I tried this, it didn't help

Sean Allred

22:55

@DanielSank As he did on TeX.SX

Danu

^ again lol

Sean Allred

@Danu Then no offense, but you're doing it wrong :(

That's part of the reason we were going through the command line to confirm the issue

DanielSank

+1 for starting from the basics.

Danu

@SeanAllred Ok, how do I do it. Just change the compiler to pdflatex, no?

Sean Allred

@Danu Yes, that should do it.

Danu

22:56

Default compiler is now latex -> pdflatex

Sean Allred

Anywhere you see latex, just use pdflatex

Danu

yes, this didn't work

Sean Allred

then we have to go through the command line

if the command line works, you should use a different editor

because this one is borked beyond repair

Danu

@SeanAllred I can reinstall

Sean Allred

(plus, I believe TeXstudio isn't very well maintained... it may legitimately be buggy)

DanielSank

22:57

@I think we should go back to the command line and verify that at least that works.

Danu

@SeanAllred Do you have any recommendations for a better editor? I'm open for changing

Sean Allred

@DanielSank He's getting the banner so the distribution is functional

DanielSank

@Danu If you are reinstalling I would personally recommend TexMaker. It is fantastic.

Sean Allred

You would probably feel at home with TeXmaker

DanielSank

@SeanAllred Yeah but it would be nice to see that he can get a pdf out.

Sean Allred

22:58

@DanielSank True

DanielSank

As a bonus, Texmaker works in Linux too in case you ever switch.

Sean Allred

@Danu If you want an editor with a lot of other goodies (integrated R, etc.) check out emacs :) It's what I use, but it's definitely not for those who just want to get the pdf and go home.

Kyle Kanos

I personally like Kile

Sean Allred

@KyleKanos I think you're biased :)

But honestly, I never really liked kile. Too much like N++/gedit/etc.

Danu

I'll give it a shot with texmaker

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