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9:18 PM
@Slereah shares the honorary mention?
I dunno
Someone should make Top Ten lists of everything that has a rank
Top Ten tensors
Top Ten groups
Top Ten matrices
 
the top ten "top ten" lists
(insert recursion here)
 
If it doesn't make the top ten then it doesn't have a rank
 
sure it does. my putting it in the list means I've ranked it :P
 
Nat
The top-ten [whatevers] that aren't ranked.
 
9:23 PM
For the chemists out there
 
lol
@EmilioPisanty I need to remember to run some stuff past you
my advisor is having me look at the integral representations of the parabolic cylinder functions
 
@Semiclassical ooof
 
e.g. $$D_\nu(z)=\frac{e^{z^2/4}}{i\sqrt{2\pi}}\int_{c -i \infty}^{c + i \infty} e^{-z t+t^2/2}t^\nu \,dt$$
bah, why isn't that formatting right
ugh, but that looks bad. reformatting anyways
 
I'm on mobile right now
 
where $c>0$
fair enough
 
9:28 PM
Looks uglyish
 
it's basically the kind of Bromwich integral you get when you want to formally invert the Laplace transform
 
I have very little grokness for the pc fns
 
well, the main weirdness is that the asymptotic expansions for large $z$ look different
 
How similar are they to Bessels and Hankels?
 
which suggests doing saddle-point shenanigans
 
9:29 PM
Wang Special Functions does asymptotic expansions of that thing, not that I understand it
 
Pretty close. I think when $\nu$ is half-integer they're actually expressible in terms of modified bessel functions of quarter order
 
and regardless you can find integral representations that involve hankel contours
 
What are they actually for?
 
Main thing of interest in QM is that $D_\nu(z)$ is basically what you get for the harmonic oscillator wavefunction if you didn't worry about boundary conditions
 
9:31 PM
But
 
when $\nu$ is a nonnegative integer you get that form of hermite polynomial * Gaussian
 
Uh
But
You do care about bcs
 
sure. But suppose you want to do WKB on some other potential
 
@Semiclassical that does make more sense though
 
if you want to do WKB in a way that's better behaved than the usual "linear at turning points" approach, you do quadratic WKB stuff instead of linear
and then you very much care about the parabolic cylinder functions when $\nu$ is almost but not quite integer
 
9:33 PM
@Semiclassical ugh
 
lol
it shouldn't be too surprising, really. doing linear wkb means you don't worry too much about what happens at the bottom of a well; you just care about the turning points
but for that reason the usual linear WKB stuff doesn't work so well for the ground state
doing quadratic WKB fixes that
though tbh I don't really care about all that
for me it's more of a test case of "given an integral representation, how do asymptotic expansions work"
and I'm using it as an excuse to learn Borel summation stuff
 
@Semiclassical oh, no, it sounds perfectly reasonable
It just sounds super boring
 
@Semiclassical that does sound interesting enough though
 
Some stuff in that vein is in those notes I linked, which I still think you should browse through
(they talk about the Airy function and its stokes lines, which I think we've touched on before?)
lots of fun stuff
 
9:41 PM
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A: Unitary Matrix for Block Diagonalization

Cosmas ZachosI suspect if you posted this in the math SE you'd get excessively systematic and pithy answers, and aim at generality. Here, I'll just remind you what your basic linear algebra text almost certainly covers. The point is you are meant to immediately observe $C_3$ (is the cyclic shift matrix and ...

Lolz
@Semiclassical I'll take a look soonish
I'm pretty frazzled atm
 
Fair enough
 
10:01 PM
"The Poincare group has rank two, so we expect to find two Casimir operators. I’ll look for a good mathematical argument for this and add it here if I find it. The way I think of it is that the translation part doesn’t matter for the rank since it’s abelian, so we’re left with SO(1,3), which is basically SO(4), which (as we will discuss later) is SU(2) × SU(2). Now SU(2) has rank 1 so SU(2) ×SU(2) has rank 2 so that’s the rank of the full group" hmm
"There is a way to "understand" why the number of Casimirs of the Poincaré group is 2. The Poincaré group is a Wigner-İnönü contraction of the de-Sitter group SO(4,1) which is semisimple and of rank 2. The Casimirs of the Poincaré group can be obtained from the Casimirs of SO(4,1) explicitly in the contraction process. This is not a full proof because group contractions are singular limits, but at least it is a way to understand the case of the Poincaré group"
Two hand-waving arguments for this, that I guess you have to take seriously :(
 
@Secret It may be so in many cases. However, the behavior of the so-named "autistic children", particularly of the easier cases, seem to me quite similar to the behavior of children who are simply revolting against the care of their parents - but they are not capable to explain their problems on a more verbal way.
 
10:47 PM
@BernardoMeurer This actually overlaps with an experiment I've thought of doing.
It basically is developing an esoteric digital radio mode that encodes data through melodies. The challenge is to algorithmically generate songs we can consider "harmonious" from the data, not just a simple mapping to avoid repetition.
It looks feasible to me (given that mathematical music theory exists!) but that kind of fields merger between music and signals sure looks complicated.
 
11:22 PM
There is an old pseudo-proof that there are no un-interesting numbers.
 
"once you choose one, it's interesting"
 
If only some numbers are interesting then there is a set of uninteresting numbers. But one of those must be the lowest uninteresting number which would be an interesting thing about it. By induction the set of uninteresting numbers must be empty.
 
@JaimeGallego Where does that overlap with my thing? Do you just mean that they both "bridge" disparate fields?
 
oooooohhh, ooooohhh, @dmckee, I've got great news
 
By the way, @Emilio, do you have news for us?
 
11:33 PM
@dmckee well, they're good for me, maybe not so good for you
=P
 
::wearing straight-man face::
Well, ::sniffle::, I promised not to cry.
Congratulations.
 
@dmckee =P don't worry, I'm planning on giving away some 700 in rep soonish
 
Which really just points up that you passed me in earned rep quite some time ago.
I haven't given away anything like as much bounty rep as you have.
 
@dmckee well, you share that with pretty much all of the site
 
Is there anyone even close?
 
11:36 PM
@BalarkaSen Did you read my thing?
 
::looks in Emilio's profile and boggles:: 17,200 rep in bounties. Sweet Jebus, that's a lot!
 
@dmckee if you put together BarsMonster, Nikolaj-K and Ben Crowell, it's reasonably close, I guess
 
@dmckee When are you coming to CA again? :P
 
@BernardoMeurer No idea.
 
Bah, one day we shall have that beer :)
 
11:40 PM
@BernardoMeurer No, more like trying to systematize an inherently creative process.
 
Ah, I see
Well, although @Slereah said formalizing language with graphs is a trap, I quite like the result
 
Them good-looking graphs tho
Eventually it does not matter that the result is "wrong", models usually are.
It boils down to usefulness
 
@JaimeGallego Yeah, took me a while to make all of those in TikZ :P
 
@DanielSank how abouts something along these lines, by the way?
 
@BernardoMeurer BTW did you know about this?
Mar 6 at 21:56, by Jaime Gallego
I just discovered that NOAA weather satellites have a public downlink for anyone to decode
 
@JaimeGallego Ye, I learned about this a couple months back from someone in the ##C Freenode server
 
Very cool indeed
If you haven't tried it out already, a v-dipole for those frequencies is easy to build
 
I don't have any time this week :(
 
Some guy used two metal pizza pans, joined them, and connected them to a coax
Bam, antenna
 
Work + School means I'm overloaded
 

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