The h Bar

12:06 AM

@0celo7 french for teacher

2:02 AM

@0celo7 For the record: no. Definitely not in an answer. In chat, the constraints are looser but it would be frowned upon.

Dawood ibn Kareem

@EmilioPisanty Actually, I think I understand what he/she is getting at. But I had to read the question multiple times. Now that's several minutes of my life I'll never get back.

DanielSank

3:18 AM

I have to confess something.

I run physics Stack Exchange from a hidden computer center buried underneath the butterfly preserve in Goleta.

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Bernardo Meurer

3:30 AM

dog grips 2

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DOG GRIPS

user228700

6:13 AM

@JohnR: Morning! :-)

John Rennie

Morning.

Just out of curiousity, is Sunday treated as a special day in India?

user228700

Erm, no, not really...

user228700

None of the adults go to work so they are later than usual to wake but nothing else, no...

user228700

Why do u ask?

John Rennie

Well I'm sitting here at my desk, on Sunday morning, and it's very quiet because everyone is still asleep. The shops don't open until mid-morning so there's no real reason to get up.

Historically Sunday was the day of rest that God took after spending six days creating the world, so Christians are supposed to rest too.

user228700

6:18 AM

Ah, right, right.

user228700

@JohnRennie :-( But you do have work, don't you?

John Rennie

It occured to me to wonder how Sunday was treated in a non-Christian society.

user228700

Sunday is a holiday in most parts of the world, I believe.

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H Not really. I have been doing some work, but only because there isn't a lot else to do at 5 a.m. on a Sunday :-)

0celo7

@JohnRennie why did you get Ron Maimon banned?

user228700

6:19 AM

Hang on, don't u usually have work on Sunday like any other day?

John Rennie

@0celo7 Me?

I was one of his fans. Somewhere in the SE archives is a post from me arguing that he not be banned.

user228700

August 8 2026?!?! Wow, can users be banned for up to 9 years?!

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H I'm not contracted to work on Sundays. I usually do because it makes my life easier to spot any problems before the Monday rush starts.

@Kaumudi.H it's a long story.

user228700

@JohnRennie Oh, wow, I see.

David Z

@0celo7 that was inappropriate

Just win baby

6:22 AM

why?

John Rennie

@DavidZ I'm just curious how that perception came to be. If indeed Ryan is serious, which isn't necessarily the case :-)

@Kaumudi.H actually I found a major problem, and it was with one if our own servers!!

0celo7

Someone said that the consigliere did it

@JohnRennie interesting

Just win baby

be humble

0celo7

@DavidZ oops 🙈🤷🏻‍♂️

user228700

@JohnRennie Haha OK :-) Doesn't coffee help a bit?

John Rennie

6:25 AM

@0celo7 during one of the elections Ron repeatedly badmouthed one of the candidates and ignored requests to stop. That was the beginning of the end.

@Kaumudi.H No, coffee doesn't help fix servers :-)

0celo7

@JohnRennie which candidate?

Just win baby

does it matter?

0celo7

And why would you defend that? Doesn't seem like a nice thing to do on his part

@Justwinbaby yes

John Rennie

@0celo7 I can't remember who it was, but the silly thing is that the person he was slagging obviously wasn't going to be elected anyway. So Ron got himself banned for no reason.

@0celo7 I wasn't defending his action. I was objecting to the length of the ban.

user228700

@JohnRennie :-)

user228700

6:28 AM

Just out of curiosity, why was he banned for 9 years?

David Z

@Justwinbaby It's inappropriate to imply that someone (JR) did something (get Ron suspended) which you have no way of knowing that they actually did. Kind of a general principle, but especially when it comes to discussing suspensions.

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H we had an iSCSI server unexpectedly reboot. That caused one of our Hyper-V servers to disconnect its iSCSI volume, and that caused one of the virtual servers on the HV server to lose it's D: and E: drives.

I had to remount the volumes then chkdsk everything to make sure there had been no damage to the file system. As it happens everything was OK so no real harm done.

But I shall be having words with the network manager at the office to find out why the iSCSI server was allowed to restart.

user228700

Oh, uhhh, wow, I see...

Dawood ibn Kareem

I did wonder what had happened to Ron. It used to be quite fun, counting how many sentences through one of his posts I could get before realising who the author was.

David Z

@Kaumudi.H Any multi-year suspension comes from SE directly, and it typically has to do with activity on multiple sites.

user228700

6:32 AM

Oh, I see...

John Rennie

@DawoodibnKareem He was a remarkable contributor. I don't think he had any formal science training, but still managed to educate himself to a level far above anything I will ever attain.

0celo7

He had an undergrad degree from Harvard

Dawood ibn Kareem

Remarkable, certainly. He was certainly capable of making a person think.

John Rennie

I learned a lot from Ron Maimon's posts, though he had his blind spots. As I recall he was convinced that Pons and Fleischmann's measurements of cold fusion were real.

Dawood ibn Kareem

Damn, why do I so often use the same adverb in successive sentences!

0celo7

6:33 AM

@DawoodibnKareem lack of intelligence?

John Rennie

@0celo7 Ah, OK. His knowledge was far above undergraduate level though.

Dawood ibn Kareem

@0celo7 Do you really want to go there with me?

0celo7

What's that supposed to mean?

@JohnRennie he certainly said some odd things

John Rennie

Is certainly an adverb? Actually I'm not sure how to categorise the word.

0celo7

His style of writing and exposition was not...standard?

Dawood ibn Kareem

6:35 AM

@JohnRennie Yes.

0celo7

He has a multi page rant on index notation

John Rennie

@DawoodibnKareem ah yes, the OED agrees with you! :-)

Dawood ibn Kareem

@JohnRennie I've always suspected it was a fairly reputable publication.

John Rennie

@0celo7: As I recall, a couple of mod elections back one of the candidates was a mod from the Skeptics SE.

The Skeptics SE has a rule that all answers must be backed up by references, which makes sense otherwise the whole thing just becomes people shouting their opinions.

However Ron felt that his statements didn't need backing up because he was an authority. This attitude got him in trouble, though I don't know exactly in what way.

0celo7

Lol

Wonder what he's like irl

John Rennie

6:40 AM

Anyhow, when the mod from Skeptics stood for the PSE election Ron ripped into him big time. For that he got banned by the community mods, and he was so annoyed at that that he then deliberately got himself banned on all the SEs.

He has made it very clear that he thinks the whole SE organisation is despicable and wants nothing more to do with it.

0celo7

Sounds like a man after my own heart

I'm just here for the mathjax

John Rennie

The whole thing was silly because the Skeptics mod clearly wasn't going to be elected as a PSE mod, so Ron got himself banned for no reason. It was one of those lose/lose situations.

0celo7

It was silly when he declared himself an authority despite not having a PhD

I assume he thinks academia is despicable too?

John Rennie

The Skeptics SE has that rule for very good reasons, because otherwise it would just degenerate into a shouting match. But Ron couldn't see that.

0celo7

Yeah

But sometimes people are actually the sources

John Rennie

6:44 AM

@0celo7 don't know. He was active on Physics Overflow, but then there was some bust up there as well and I think he left that as well.

0celo7

My dad edits wiki articles about Vietnam, his source being that he was there

I'm not sure how we works it

John Rennie

I don't know exactly what happened on the Physics Overflow but a number of the mods either left or were pushed.

0celo7

Huh

Maybe it's a sign of the end times

Also it's 3am

I should probably go to sleep...cheerio

John Rennie

Goodnight

@Kaumudi.H Hmm, I'm out of coffee :-)

Sir Cumference

God, I can't sleep. It's too hot in here and the AC's not working...

John Rennie

6:50 AM

@SirCumference it has suddenly got a lot cooler in the UK. 18ºC right now. I've had to put on a sweat shirt.

Sir Cumference

@JohnRennie I'd take it over this. It's like 30°C right now. :(

John Rennie

At 3 a.m.? Wow.

Sir Cumference

Summer is brutal

user228700

@SirCumference Yeah, no kidding.

user228700

@JohnRennie :-( And I'm too lazy to make myself a cup.

user228700

7:01 AM

YES, I've managed to find more movies to watch on Netflix!

John Rennie

Good grief. Now I've found a server with a failed disk. What is it with Sunday morning?!!

user228700

:-( Good luck...

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H Did you sort the subtitles?

user228700

Nope!

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H S'OK - it's not my problem :-)

user228700

7:03 AM

...because of which I have resorted to watching some more Netflix.

Dawood ibn Kareem

@Kaumudi.H That really sounds like an action of last resort.

user228700

Not really. Incidentally, I happened to find some good ones: The Truman Show, The Godfather, A Clockwork Orange, Good Will Hunting...

Dawood ibn Kareem

I think I enjoyed reading The Godfather more than I enjoyed the movie.

Good Will Hunting is a great movie. I haven't seen the other two you mentioned.

Just win baby

7:37 AM

@DavidZ thanks for the policy clarification

Kenshin

@Justwinbaby are you Ron Maimon?

Just win baby

-_-

Secret

7:53 AM

in Mathematics, 9 mins ago, by Twink

Judge Judy Tortures a Sales Manager (soundboard prank)

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In the past hour, one of the maths user seemed to get possessed by this and terrorise the maths chat room by posing as Judge Judy

the result is a collective WTF for all maths users

John Rennie

It has only minimal physics content, but if anyone is interested this is quite a poignant documentary about some retired British astronomers.

I met Donald Lynden-Bell (briefly) when I was at Cambridge.

His wife worked in the same department (Chemistry) where I did my PhD.

Kenshin

8:10 AM

@JohnRennie did you talk to the wife

John Rennie

8:52 AM

@Kenshin Occasionally, but she was in the theoretical chemistry department while I was in physical chemistry, so our paths didn't cross that often.

Kenshin

@JohnRennie
BBC iPlayer only works in the UK. Sorry, it’s due to rights issues.

John Rennie

Yes, though if anyone was desperate to see the programme this could be arranged :-)

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10:23 AM

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Just win baby

12:21 PM

@0celo7 why?

Slereah

Is there a general mathematical notion for a configuration space?

What kind of mathematical object would cover classical phase space, field configuration spaces and Hilbert spaces

question is relating to entropy pretty much

what object can I define entropy on that would cover all of these

I'm guessing it would probably be at least a vector space with some measure on it

ACuriousMind

@Slereah If you want entropy, it sounds as if you are asking for a probability space.

@Slereah Phase space is not a vector space.

Slereah

Hm

So just a set with a measure?

ie a probability space indeed

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Yep.

Slereah

Good enough I guess

ACuriousMind

12:27 PM

Caveat, though: Quantum statistical mechanics does not take place in a standard probability space

Slereah

Yeah that I know

ACuriousMind

You'll want a "non-commutative" notion of probability for that

Slereah

Kolmogorov versus non-kolmogorov probability

Just win baby

12:42 PM

Why is there an automatic "nobody is allowed to talk about this" gag order put in place when anybody is suspected? Personally, I think it's a lot like sweeping the problem "under the rug" and trying to pretend that nothing happened and nobody should find out about it @DavidZ

Slereah

One thing I always wonder is, can you have statistical mechanics without the assumption of phase space volumes?

Like if you don't have the minimal volume $\delta x \delta p \approx \hbar$

Do calculations still make sense

in a purely classical stat mech thing

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Not really, since you're dividing by that volume a lot :P

Slereah

I never quite got what the deep argument for the ultraviolet catastrophe was

Because it seems unlikely that a classical system would radiate away infinite energy

Since it still has energy conservation

ACuriousMind

Uh, that's precisely why the catastrophe is a problem?

Not sure what your issue is

Slereah

Well yes but why does it happen

Is it fundamental to the classicalness of the system or just the approximations used?

If you solved the system entirely classically, there wouldn't be any such infinite radiation, no?

it would just be a system of classical charges

ACuriousMind

12:50 PM

Well, go and look at the derivation of the Rayleigh-Jeans law.

I don't think any approximations beyond the existence of a perfect blackbody go into it, really

Just win baby

1:03 PM

it probably just comes down to you're not allowed to divide by zero :P

Slereah

You can take a volume and then take the limit to zero

I guess I should look up the derivation

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Just win baby

::makes meta popcorn::

what's the difference between "meta" and "chatroom" popcorn?

(just some kernels to ponder)

Slereah

1:25 PM

I guess the issue I have is

If I consider a system of two point charges

Their radiations are perfectly well defined

Same with $n+1$ point charges

why is there an issue if I take a very large $N$

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Sounds like every other "issue" with statistical mechancs to me (e.g. "the laws of physics are time-symmetric for $N$ particles, why is the second law time-asymmetric?")

That is, unless you have a satisfying answer to Loschimdt's paradox, you shouldn't expect one for your issue, either.

Slereah

I don't mind entropy issues so much?

I roughly understand that

Slereah

1:43 PM

Entropy is related to incompleteness of information and that issue goes away if you have the exact microstate

On the other hand infinite radiation isn't at all an issue of description of the system

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Slereah

Is the issue maybe related to the divergence issues of classical electrodynamics?

I guess if you have to consider every configuration possible, you must consider charges arbitrarily close to each other

which does have infinite energy

but of course that would be assuming point particles, with softer distributions that problem goes away

ACuriousMind

@Slereah Look at the derivation of the R-J law: All you need is: 1. Number of standing modes in a cavity. 2. Equipartition.

Slereah

Lemme get my stat mech book

ACuriousMind

The flaw in the R-J law is not anything specific to electromagnetics, it's the assumption that each frequency has a continuous spectrum of energy modes associated with it.

Slereah

1:56 PM

Is that problem common to every classical statistical mechanics system, though?

Because the R-J setup is fairly specific

Is it a problem that pops up if I try to solve any Liouville equations of classical systems

Physique Statistique, by Christian Ngô and Hélène Ngô

Possibly husband and wife team of statistical mechanicians

ACuriousMind

I don't think it has anything to do with Liouvill equations

We're not solving any equations of motion here to begin with

Slereah

We had a really nice stat mech "book" back in school, which was just xeroxed copies of the first few chapters

But I don't have them anymore and I don't know what book it was from

Too bad

ACuriousMind

Well, we are solving the electromagetic ones to get the number of modes, but the assumptions that are crucial to the catastrophe do not strike me as "electromagnetic" in nature: The crucial assumption is that each frequency obeys the continuous energy distribution $\exp(-E/kT)$ instead of the discrete distribution $\exp(-n \hbar \omega/ kT)$

That's literally the only thing you need to change to get Planck's law instead of the R-J law

Slereah

Is that assumption well motivated in classical mechanics, though?

ACuriousMind

Well, classically, there is no reason to assume that standing waves of specific frequency can not have continuous energy, so I'd say yes.

Slereah

2:03 PM

I wonder if the problem would go away with a cutoff point to the energy of individual particles

ACuriousMind

There are no individual particles

We're just solving the wave equation.

I don't know what you are thinking, but I think you have a very different idea of how the R-J law is arrived at from what one actually does

Slereah

It has been a while

I guess I imagined more of a Liouville equation thing as a basis

Classical system of equation, cut off some of the more complex interaction terms, etc

ACuriousMind

Not at all :P

Slereah

then you get some statistical ensemble

Is there an ultraviolet divergence for the Liouville approach though, if we use classical mechanics?

ACuriousMind

I don't understand how your "Liouville approach" is supposed to yield a spectral energy density to begin with

Slereah

2:07 PM

I don't know the exact details of how you'd do it, but generally just solving the Maxwell equations for a large number of particles

Consider $N$ Lorentz equations and the Maxwell equations of all those sources

ACuriousMind

I have no idea how one would go about doing anything useful with that

Slereah

$$\ddot{\vec{x}}_i = \frac{e}{m} (\vec{E} + \dot{\vec{x}} \times \vec{B}) $$
$$\Box A = \sum_i e \dot x_i$$

Something like that

With some approximations to make it more tractable

ACuriousMind

I know what equations you're talking about :P I just don't see how you would extract any sort of information about a blackbody from that

Slereah

Well just

If we considered that equation

Empty universe filled with a particle fluid like that

Should we expect any bad divergences

Balarka Sen

@Slereah Sometimes. "Moduli spaces" is one thing.

Slereah

2:16 PM

"macroétats"

It feels weird reading french physics now

Just win baby

you have been assimilated :P

0celo7

2:44 PM

@Slereah is now finally French

what was he before?

Gaullian

Old photo of me

is general de gaulle still admired

Slereah

He's not entirely uncontroversial but he is probably more popular than most politicians

Balarka Sen

2:56 PM

@Slereah By Toutatis! This is you?

Slereah

it is!

Balarka Sen

I like Asterix a lot but my all time classic remains Tintin

Belgian yo

Slereah

A classic tale

Balarka Sen

Tintin in Congo is good

I like In The Land of Soviets more

0celo7

Big Sean Responds to Kendrick Lamar diss in new verse 'RocaFella Chain but u can still get ETHERED'

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@BalarkaSen

John Rennie

3:02 PM

@BalarkaSen I trust that's an ironic statement ...

0celo7

For some reason Akademiks thinks Big Sean is one of the Greats of the generation

Fantano thinks he's trash

Balarka Sen

I believe in Fantano

@JohnRennie Well the first two were the crudest Tintin

but still a cult classic

ACuriousMind

@BalarkaSen I think the blatant racism is more of an issue than whether it's "crude" or not.

Balarka Sen

Yes, I know.

0celo7

what's Tintin?

Balarka Sen

3:10 PM

a lot of the tintins contain controversial elements. there is racism present in the penultimate tintin, too, say.

John Rennie

@BalarkaSen Blatant racism \ne good

Balarka Sen

I do not refute entirety of works based on racist material, I just disagree with the racist material. This is like Chinua Achebe dissing Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness.

Bernardo Meurer

Every time I come around you guys are talking about weirder and weirder shit

ACuriousMind

@BalarkaSen Well, but certainly you see how it comes across when you say "Tintin in Congo is good" without qualifying that statement, right?

Because that certainly sounds as if you approve of the entirety of the work.

Bernardo Meurer

Tintin in Congo is great

Balarka Sen

3:14 PM

Well, what do you want me to say? I can't say it's bad, because I like the work.

Bernardo Meurer

What's wrong with it?

Balarka Sen

I just clarified I do not approve of the racism.

0celo7

wtf are you people talking about

Bernardo Meurer

@0celo7 ACM is angry because a belgian cartoon character was racist in one book Balarka likes

Just win baby

racism

Bernardo Meurer

3:15 PM

Which I like too

0celo7

what book

I've never heard of this

Bernardo Meurer

Tintin in Congo

You don't know about Tintin?

0celo7

nope

why would I?

Bernardo Meurer

Bloody Americans

Balarka Sen

try Tintin in America

ACuriousMind

3:17 PM

@BalarkaSen Eh, I don't want to you say it's bad. But I think in such cases some upfront acknowledgement of a major issue with a work is necessary to avoid seeming unaware of or unconcerned with it.

0celo7

@BalarkaSen I have not heard of "Tintin," period.

Slereah

Damn millenials!

Just win baby

@BernardoMeurer Our colors don't run.

0celo7

@ACuriousMind Is it bad if one is unaware?

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 Not really if by some miracle one genuinely is unaware.

Just win baby

3:22 PM

ignorance is not an excuse :P

0celo7

wot

Balarka Sen

@ACuriousMind That's fair, but to be honest I did not feel the need to add my views on the racism present in the book when replying to Slereah. Since you and JR felt the need that I should, there you go: I do not approve of the racist elements in the book. I also think Herge intentionally put it in to be a mockery of the racism of Europeans, but it is true that it can potentially be perceived as propagating racism.

Slereah

oh no that wasn't a joke

That was what he used to believe

He used to have a very naive picture of Africa

He started to really learn about foreign cultures when he wrote le lotus bleu

though still a tad racist

Balarka Sen

Blue Lotus does correctly describe the Japanese attitude towards Chinese people (at that time), I think?

0celo7

What on Earth are you people talking about?

Balarka Sen

3:27 PM

I didn't feel it was racist at all.

The Dark Side

@Slereah Is that a mustache suspended from the edge of the nose?

Slereah

The Adventures of Tintin

The Adventures of Tintin (French: Les Aventures de Tintin; [lez‿avɑ̃tyʁ də tɛ̃tɛ̃]) is a series of 24 comic albums created by Belgian cartoonist Georges Remi, who wrote under the pen name Hergé. The series was one of the most popular European comics of the 20th century. By 2007, a century after Hergé's birth in 1907, Tintin had been published in more than 70 languages with sales of more than 200 million copies. The series first appeared in French on 10 January 1929 in Le Petit Vingtième (The Little Twentieth), a youth supplement to the Belgian newspaper Le Vingtième Siècle (The Twentieth Century...

0celo7

does this dude have a different name in German

ACuriousMind

@BalarkaSen A bit of googling suggests Herge later called the book a "sin of his youth", so apparently no subversion is intended.

0celo7

Tim und Struppi

ah

Slereah

3:30 PM

Hergé used to write for a catholic youth journal

Balarka Sen

@ACuriousMind Hm.

Slereah

He did not hang out with the most progressive people

0celo7

I don't think I was allowed to watch those

Just win baby

Good parents.

0celo7

@Justwinbaby Maybe. Our religion doesn't look upon cartoons favorably.

Balarka Sen

3:33 PM

cartoons are the best way to propagate propaganda

Just win baby

hence the conflict with religion

Slereah

@0celo7 are you from an amish household

user228700

3:45 PM

@JohnR: Hey, u did eventually get ur old bicycle repaired, didn't you?

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H I did yes.

user228700

Ah, that's nice :-)

John Rennie

I'm still riding it.

user228700

That's great!

John Rennie

Since you're here, I finally got round to cooking thsoe frozen parathas.

Picture incoming ...

user228700

3:46 PM

Ooh. What'd u have 'em with?

user228700

@JohnRennie Always a pleasure :-)

John Rennie

user228700

Looks great! :-) I see you had them with chole.

John Rennie

I filled them with two different types of dahl and chole

user228700

Ah, I see.

user228700

3:49 PM

Well, I'm about to make a vegetable cheese sandwich. Any suggestions?

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H Cheese, onion, tomato and garlic. Toasted!

user228700

...I don't have garlic :-/

user228700

Hmm, but I do have some pizza sauce left!

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H :: John reels back in shock and horror ::

user228700

(I'm not a vampire; my parents detest the taste of garlic and to some extent, so do I)

John Rennie

3:51 PM

@Kaumudi.H :: the second blow proves too much and John falls back insensible ::

0celo7

@JohnRennie fresh garlic?

Balarka Sen

I have to rigorously listen to Talking Heads, this is amazing.

0celo7

that's not easy to get

John Rennie

@0celo7 every supermarket stocks fresh garlic in the UK ...

user228700

@BalarkaSen Hello there, tumbleweed listening to Talking Heads.

0celo7

3:52 PM

@JohnRennie doesn't mean everyone has it in their house

I don't have any fresh

user228700

@JohnRennie :-/ ::Shakes the life back into you:: Sorry?

Balarka Sen

@Kaumudi Hi.

John Rennie

@0celo7 I keep some frozen garlic in case of dire emergencies like a vampire apocalypse or feeling hungry.

user228700

Hang on hang on, you eat pieces of garlic if you're hungry?! Wtf!

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H no, not even I would eat raw garlic neat :-)

But everything tastes better with garlic.

0celo7

3:54 PM

@JohnRennie Hmm

I might be by a store later, what does one do with fresh garlic

user228700

@JohnRennie ...guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

user228700

> what does one do with fresh garlic

user228700

Good question! And I have no idea so tell us @JohnR.

0celo7

Say I wanted some garlic on my chicken breast

John Rennie

Put it in risottos, pizzas, pasta sauces, or with pasta and just butter. In stews. On toast with butter. The list goes on and on.

0celo7

3:56 PM

Do I have to marinate it or something fancy?

John Rennie

I'd probably just crush it and saute it in butter then add cream and pour the sauce over the cooked chicken.

But I'm a rubbish chef so believe me at your peril. That nice Mr Google is probably a more reliable source.

0celo7

I made like 5 pouds of pasta accidentally so I'm stuck with that for a while

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