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2:00 PM
ok
 
So we can't say that we should see expansion on this scale to begin with, even if there weren't the issue with bound systems.
 
ok
so space expansion is not homogeneous in the whole universe?
i.e. it varies according to whether there's matter or not
mass should i say
 
@JohnRennie How to apply the leading-lagging terminology for standing wave loops? Suppose we have standing wave $$y=10\sin(\frac{4\pi x}{5})\sin(10\pi t)$$ then do we say that first loop (from x=0) is lagging by "$\pi$" radians or leading by "$\pi$" radians w.r.t the second loop?
 
@no_choice99 Well, at large scales the galaxies are approximately distributed homogeneous and isotropic. The issue is not the presence of matter but its symmetry
On smaller scales, calculating the correct metric is infeasible
 
i didnt know that
 
2:02 PM
So it's not clear at all whether to expect to see expansion on our scales or not
 
acuriousmind what do you think of the landau's series to learn general physics
by general i mean all domains
 
Haven't read any of them, so I can't comment at all
 
0
Q: Equations of constrained motion

Vasu GoyalWhen we solve a mechanics problem, we do it by forming constrained motion equations and at times we write the same equations again, is there any way to identify which all equations are unique and not just a manipulation of what we wrote previously?

Unclear?
 
clear but should give at least 1 example
else, not precise enough
just my take on it
 
2:16 PM
ACM doesn't know how to read I'm afraid
 
go ahead 0celo7
are landau's books ok to study solid state
like vol 9 or 8 stat mech 2 whch deals with fermi liquids
 
Go ahead?
 
go ahead and reply to the question i asked you above ^^
 
I haven't read them.
 
thx then curious why you said ACM doesn;t know how to read
 
2:28 PM
Because he doesn't. No use asking him about books.
@ACuriousMind What's one good reason for not getting an X box one to play TW3
 
ok thanks 0celo
 
@0celo7 If you aren't interested in the greater diversity of PC games you could play, none really. TW3 plays better with a controller anyway, imo
 
@ACuriousMind I don't want to spend the money for a gaming PC
But I would miss my mods
(I'm at a store where they have X box ones)
 
2:44 PM
I have one
 
they say the new zelda is the best game in the last 20 years
 
no that's half life 3
 
300 people worked on it several years.
 
I'm not gonna buy a switch just for one game
 
maybe buy it used
dunno
 
2:46 PM
You can get used consoles that are 2 weeks old?
 
sure
some people buy it, finish the game in a few hours and then sell it
 
you could get used copies of no man sky the very next day after its release
 
hahahha that's understandable
 
I still don't know/understand what happened there.
What was wrong with the game?
 
2:48 PM
apparently the programmers had ideas that they weren't able to make work. but no idea why they made a nice trailer that has nothing to do with the game
i mean i dont know how they made the trailer, it's not actual gameplay despite its look
nothing much wrong with the game. it's just that people expected much more
 
Does anyone know where to find the charge neutrality level (with respect to the top of the valence band or the bottom of the conduction band) for InSb? I was able to find it for InAs, but not for InSb. But if I remember correctly it's inside the band gap, maybe even close to the valence band (wheras InAs is inside the conduction band)
 
@user129412 there maybe ? researchgate.net/publication/…
 
@no_choice99 Interesting! Funny how for the one I am interested in their reported values are all over the place. Or well, from exactly on top of the valence band to a bit above. I guess that's something already.
 
no idea . i didnt know about charge neutrality level before you mentioned it
i gotta study some ashcroft and mermin i guess
 
3:04 PM
Yeah I still find it a rather tricky concept myself.
 
@2017 It doesn't matter what convention you use because the wave has a period of $2\pi$. As a general rule we keep phases to less than $\pi$ so you'd say the second wave was lagging by up to $\pi$ or leading by up to $\pi$. But that's not a hard and fast rule.
 
"As a general rule we keep phases to less than π so you'd say the second wave was lagging by up to π or leading by up to π"<---- We keep phases to less than $\pi$? Where? I didn't get that part...could you reframe it please?
@JohnRennie
Which phases do we keep to less than $\pi$?
 
@JohnRennie I once had to compute a phase for my physics homework. The calculated answer was like 2000 rad. I reported that mod 2pi and it was wrong.
 
And "second wave"? Isn't there only one standing wave here?
 
Because the TA didn't know if I had computed it using the method demonstrated in class.
 
3:11 PM
-2
Q: Crazy thought about black hole

Pranav ModiSuppose the body didn't get affected by any force and didn't collide so according to law of relativity the body achieved infinite mass and hence infinite gravitational force hence this maybe black hole.

As question titles go that one is remarkably appropriate :-)
 
@0celo7 XD
reminds me of my school's physics teacher
@JohnRennie When you said "second wave" did you mean in a different situation when there are two waves?
 
@2017 yes, I didn't read your question properly - sorry :-(
 
np :)
 
I'm not sure what you mean by the phase of a standing wave ...
 
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A: How to apply the leading-lagging terminology for standing wave loops?

FarcherThere is no right or wrong as to which motion is leading/lagging the adjacent loop. There is a $\pi $ phase difference and you can choose whatever term (lead/lag) you like in whatever order of mentioning the loops you like.

 
3:13 PM
The phase term is presumably just $10\pi t$
 
@JohnRennie I meant the phase difference between particles of two adjacent loops which differ by pi radians
I wanted to know if the particles of the first loop lags or leads w.r.t the second loop
 
Loops? You the part in between two nodes?
 
@JohnRennie On either side of a node
lemme upload a picture
 
That's OK. I think I understand.
 
oh okay
@Farcher says that the terminology of leading lagging won't apply here as there is no reference point
 
3:19 PM
Suppose you take a snapshot in time and graph $y(x)$, then the instantaneous graph is $y = A\sin(kx)$, where $k = 2\pi\lambda$. Yes?
 
@JohnRennie right
yes
 
Hi all
 
Sorry, I was distracted - I was buying a laptop on eBay :-)
This one. Don't tell Kaumudi! :-)
 
@JohnRennie Omg, buy a new house too, or else you won't have space left to live in your house :P It will be full of LAPTOPS!!!!
 
@2017 I plan to give this one to a friend - I won't be keeping it.
Anyway ...
To get to the second loop you move a distance $\lambda/2$ along the $x$ axis.
 
3:28 PM
@JohnRennie Ah, so you didn't go full crazy, yet! :)
@JohnRennie yep
 
Can I ask a quick QM question, in many text it gives the 3 dimensional eqigenvalue equation of say the position operator $$\hat{X} | \vec{x} \rangle =\vec{x} | \vec{x} \rangle .$$ So as I understand the $\vec{x}$ is the eigenvalue, hence a scalar, but it has three different components, since $| \vec{x} \rangle$ is simultanously the eigenstate for the three different components of the position operator $\hat{X}$, namely $\hat{X}_x, \hat{X}_y$ and $\hat{X}_z$.
 
So if you start at $x = 0$ you end up at $x = \lambda/2 = \pi/k$ so the phase relative to your starting point is $kx = \pi$.
 
So basically it's like a notation which contains three eigenvalue equations in one equation? Is this correct?
 
@JohnRennie right
yes, if you take x=0 to be starting point
 
So I'd say the second loop is $\pi$ ahead of the first loop.
 
3:31 PM
@JohnRennie why ahead?
 
Because you will have to wait a time $t = \tau/2$ for the first loop to reach the same position as the second loop is at $t=0$, and during that time the phase changes by $\pi$.
 
Hello everyone is it ok if I ask to turn your attention to a thing that bugs my mind for few weeks?
I am trying to understand how to calculate the angular momentum states for QM isotropic harmonic oscillator. I have 2 problems: I don't understand how I can exploit spherical tensors and how to jump between subspaces of angular momentum.
 
But mathematically leading by $\pi$ is exactly the same as trailing by $\pi$.
So use whatever convention you want.
 
@JohnRennie If you see the equation then you'll find that at t=0 the first loop particles is in exactly the same position as second loop particles...
All the particles will be at y=0
at t=0
I don't understand what you mean by wait for $\tau/2$
 
Really?
The velocities of the particles in the first loop are the same as the velocities of the corresponding particle in the second loop?
Not different by a factor of $-1$?
 
3:36 PM
$y=10\sin(\frac{4\pi x}{5})\sin(10\pi t)$
At t=0, y=0 for all particles in all the loops
Right, velocity will be different though
 
Yes, but even so the first and second loops aren't the same because the particles in them are moving in opposite directions.
 
@JohnRennie yes indeed...oh, i think i get what you are trying to say
the second loop should have same direction of velocity also after $\tau/2$
as the first loop at t=0
so, the reference here is the first loop
 
Yes
 
fair enough :) thanks!
By the way, @Kaumudi.H erm...you know JR bought a new....ummmm......again :-P
 
user228700
@2017 U don't mean a laptop, do you? I know that he bought a couple of tablets...
 
3:44 PM
@Kaumudi.H look up ^^^^^^^^^^
 
user228700
@JohnRennie WHAT THE HECK?!
 
lol :D
 
@2017 You grassed me up! I'll get you for that!! :-)
 
@JohnRennie Well, I didn't mention what you bought.....so no rules broken :D
 
@EmilioPisanty It didn't get answered, thanks for that.
 
3:45 PM
@Kaumudi.H It's for a friend. I'm going to give it away.
 
user228700
@JohnRennie .__. For the sake of maintaining a relatively sane impression of you in my mind, I will try to believe this claim of yours.
 
... once I've fixed it. It currently has no disk.
 
@EmilioPisanty So it's basically just a way to describe the polarization of the emitted light in relation to an external magnetic field?
 
user228700
You seem to be on a roll! To whom did u give away the tablets?
 
@Kaumudi.H I haven't given them away. One is for me (to replace one I had already given away) and the other is a spare. I, my niece, my sister in law and my Mum all have this type of tablet so keeping a spare is a potential life saver.
 
user228700
3:49 PM
Ah, OK :-)
 
Did you send your poem?
 
user228700
@JohnRennie Yes, I did :-) On the podcast, they give dubious advice to listeners who send in questions so I sent in a question as well.
 
Are they going to advise you on how to get over your Coldplay obsession?
 
user228700
-____-
 
:-)
 
user228700
3:52 PM
No, I sent in a question that is loosely related to the subject of my e-mail: On conversations and the art of keeping them going.
 
Mentioning food seems to work here ...
 
user228700
I might have to wait for a few weeks to find out whether or not my question/poem made it.
 
user228700
@JohnRennie Hmm?
 
@Kaumudi.H Mentioning food seems to work for keeping the conversation going.
 
user228700
Ah, yes :-) My question was related to social settings in "real" life.
 
3:55 PM
You don't want to bother with real life. The Internet is so much more fun.
 
user228700
:-) I'm going to university later this year; I might need to bother with it some.
 
Ah, OK :-)
 
user228700
I've written it nicely! And the subject seems at least a little intriguing, no?
 
I recall that when I was younger I used to struggle with conversations, but these days I'm a chatterbox and you can't shut me up. The onset of senility probably.
 
user228700
> The onset of senility
 
user228700
3:59 PM
Certainly! x'D
 
A laptop obsession is the first sign.
 
user228700
Exactly!
 
user228700
> These days I'm a chatterbox
 
user228700
Ah, so u are more of an extrovert, are you?
 
Not really. I just stopped caring what people think of what I say.
 
user228700
4:00 PM
I doubt if that's the same thing...
 
Well I think i used to struggle with conversation because I was worried I'd say something silly and everyone would smile patronisingly at me.
 
user228700
Ah, I see.
 
But now everyone does that anyway, so what the hell :-)
 
user228700
I don't quite struggle but my "issue" is a bit different. I'll forward the mail to you if u'd like to see it :-)
 
If you'd like to share it, though my judgement in areas other than physics (and laptops) is not to be relied on.
 
user228700
4:03 PM
U've got mail! :-)
 
user228700
The punctuation-you might notice with a cringe-is terrible.
 
I gave up correcting people's writing a long time ago - it kept getting me beaten up :-)
 
user228700
Thank you :-) It's true; some of them seem completely lost when asked about themselves. It's only understandable, I suppose.
 
user228700
BTW, why is ur font blue in color? O_o
 
@Kaumudi.H Is it?
 
user228700
4:15 PM
It is! :-o
 
@Kaumudi.H It isn't over here!
Only mods have the blue color
 
user228700
Well, no, I meant in e-mail.
 
@Kaumudi.H ow! those are settings....
gmail has color options...
iirc
 
@Kaumudi.H ah. I'm using Outlook and that puts replies in a blue colour by default. I've just never bothered to change the default.
 
user228700
Ah, by default. It looks a bit funny :-)
 
4:17 PM
You're using Gmail?
 
user228700
Yes. What dyou mean "I'm using Outlook"? Isn't ur id at gmail?
 
Microsoft Outlook can integrate all the mails from different services ...
 
Those are the defaults.
You can use Gmail with any POP3/SMTP e-mail client.
 
user228700
@2017 I wasn't aware of this!
 
user228700
4:19 PM
This is what it looks like on Gmail:
 
user228700
 
I use two different Gmail accounts, one personal and one for developing on GitHub, and I also have a work e-mail address. Using Outlook is a convenient way to gather all the mail into one place.
@Kaumudi.H shrug - that looks fine to me. I'm not fussed about the colour.
 
user228700
Ohh, I see. And this one is ur work address, I suppose?
 
Perhaps I should send all my mail in Comic Sans :-)
 
user228700
x'D That would give the recipients even more reason to believe the onset of crippling senility.
 
4:22 PM
@Kaumudi.H No, the address you have is my personal address. The work address is on the company's domain pro-networks.co.uk.
 
user228700
Ohh, yes, I found that one on ur website.
 
user228700
Does my e-mail read OK?
 
Yes, it looks fine. I've replied.
 
user228700
Yes, I did read the reply. This was in response to your reply:
 
user228700
13 mins ago, by Kaumudi. H
Thank you :-) It's true; some of them seem completely lost when asked about themselves. It's only understandable, I suppose.
 
4:27 PM
The young are rubbish really. You only realise that when you get old.
 
user228700
Rubbish? :'-( I too-you will notice-am young!
 
I'm too tactful to point that out to you :-)
 
user228700
What did u mean by "rubbish"?
 
@JohnRennie Plenty of rubbish young people grow up to be rubbish old people :P
 
@ACuriousMind all humans are rubbish except for you and I, and I'm not so sure about you :-)
(traditional Yorkshire saying - paraphrased)
 
4:35 PM
And you dare call me a cynic ;)
 
user228700
@JohnR: No, really, what did u mean by "rubbish"?
 
@Kaumudi.H garbage :-P
 
user228700
-____-
 
@Kaumudi.H you're reading too much into this. Remember when i said:
> my judgement in areas other than physics (and laptops) is not to be relied on.
 
user228700
Wokay :-P
 
4:37 PM
@Kaumudi.H The only catch is that all garbage turns worse with age :D
 
Garbage gets smellier with age, but then so do humans.
Of course wine and cheese get tastier with age ... :-)
 
and so do humans ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform they get tougher though, so you need to cook them for a long time.
 
sure, we all know babies are naturally more tender
 
Indeed. They can be eaten raw with just a dash of barbecue sauce.
:: John looks nervously around for incoming flags ::
 
4:49 PM
ಠ‿↼
 
I used to look like a monkey after birth. Now its better...... :-P I must be wine :'D
@JohnRennie You seem to have a lot of experience :D
I hope you don't have any cannibalism cases against you
 
I ate the evidence
 
I dont like this meme anymore
its not funny if you collaborate
 
Would you like to come to my house for dinner?
 
brb, gotta buy a plane ticket
ok done, see you at 10pm
PS I dont like cheese
 
4:57 PM
JR does get implicated in cannibalism a lot
I thought he was more into sheep
But maybe I'm wrong
 
I derived some formula in maths chat:
$$\int a(n)e^{nu} dn=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^{k-1}a^{(k)}(n)e^{nu}}{u^{k+1}}$$

Now attempting to apply method of snake oil to knock out that sum
 
@0celo7 food first, romance later
 
sheep first, sheep later
 
@JohnRennie are you Hannibal Lecter
@AccidentalFourierTransform hey, this isn't Iraq
Oh wait, that's goats
 
Incidentally, i read this a couple of weeks ago and I strongly recommend it:
Feb 16 at 10:33, by John Rennie
Bill Schutt
Algonquin Books

Eating one s own kind is completely natural behavior in thousands of species, including humans. Thro....
 
5:01 PM
Ignore me
 
Despite the title it's mostly about cannibalism in animals e.g. spiders and preying mantises. The extent to which humans have ever practiced cannibalism is a matter of some debate.
 
So it doesn't defend human cannibalism?
So how do you have time for a book on cannibalism but not for balls?
 
It does mention human cannibalism, but there's very little direct evidence that it has ever been standard practice for any societies.
You get cases like the well known plane crash in the Andes, but they are pretty exceptional.
And some societies eat their dead as a way of honouring them.
But cannibalism as in the comic book idea of capturing people and putting them in pots seems to be rare to the point of non-existence.
 
vzn
@JohnRennie a ghoulish, macabre topic. but cannibalism is not to be confused with human murder/ sacrifice both of which are not so rare in human cultures over the millenia. re your topic, you might find this relevant dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2885704/…
 
The Daily Mail? You're citing the Daily Mail and you expect me to take you seriously? They can't even talk sense about Brexit so the chance of them having anything useful to say about sociology is negligibly small.
There's only one good use for the Daily Mail and the paper is a bit hard for that.
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5:11 PM
@JohnRennie I will give you a surprise visit when I go to Europe next time. We can go human hunting together. (I have your address :-D)
@JohnRennie I read the first few pages from an online pdf...will complete the book after my exams are over!
It looked interesting :)
 
Are you doing the same exams as Kaumudi?
 
@JohnRennie Yep
 
Good luck!
 
Thank you ^_^
 
Anyway I'm off to get a beer and finish American Gods.
Sanity can now return to the physics chat.
 
vzn
5:31 PM
 
@JohnRennie Huh?
Rolling up a newspaper and beating people with it works best with hard paper.
 
@MartianCactus Want a quick intro to cosmology?
 
@SirCumference So what is the topology of spatial slices of the universe?
 
@0celo7 Dude stahp
 
not right now :P
 
5:39 PM
?
 
im kinda busy
 
Ask @ACM or @JohnRennie Rennie this stuff
 
maybe tomorrow
its night here
 
JohnRennie Rennie
 
@SirCumference why would ACM know?
 
5:40 PM
J R R
Tolkien
 
@0celo7 I dunno, he likes cosmology
 
@ACuriousMind does not like cosmology, I guarantee
 
He's helped me on a few things
Like how the event horizon changes in the Big Rip
 
@0celo7 That's correct
@SirCumference That's not correct
 
5:42 PM
That I know some basics about it doesn't know I like it
 
@ACuriousMind Event horizon changing in a nonstandard cosmology is a basic?
 
@SirCumference I don't remember any "event horizon changing"
 
@ACuriousMind I thought it was you who said the event horizon shrinks
Oh wait, that might've been JR
 
Ah, you're talking about the particle/Hubble horizon
 
@ACuriousMind Er, no, I'm talking about the cosmic event horizon
 
5:43 PM
@SirCumference It wasn't difficult to figure out from the Wikipedia page and what I knew, so yes :P
 
Hubble horizon changes, that's a given. But I was surprised by the event horizon shrinking.
 
@ACuriousMind This is probably a stupid question, but from stat mech we know that there are three spatial dimensions. How does holography deal with this?
I'm not on weed, just wondering about things
 
@0celo7 Holography just says that an $n$-dimensional theory of quantum gravity is equivalent to a $n-1$-dimensional quantum field theory on the boundary. It doesn't say the $n$-th dimension doesn't exist
 
@DavidZ @ACuriousMind So...is the site's logo gonna be upgraded to a vector graphic soon?
 
@SirCumference ...what?
 
5:48 PM
why are you obsessed with vector graphics
 
It's kind of strange how we use a raster while other sites use vectors
 
how about I teach you about vector spaces instead
 
@0celo7 Raster logos are ugly
 
Why should we know anything about that? The moderators have nothing to do with site design or functionality
 
:36108295 D:
@ACuriousMind Wait, who deals with site design?
 
5:49 PM
@SirCumference SE employees
 
@ACuriousMind Huh, really?
 
Sure
 
I guess I'll make a meta post or email them
 
Make a meta post if you feel that strongly about it
If it is about design features not specific to physics.SE, Meta Stack Exchange is the right place, though
 
@ACuriousMind but how does that n-1 dimensional QFT describe the cubic expansion of gas?
 
5:52 PM
@0celo7 Since the theories are equivalent, all the expectation values and so on of everything are the same. It gives the exact same predictions. I can't answer that in any more detail since the holographic principle is merely conjectural, and I have no idea if any of the known AdS/CFT correspondences describes any situation remotely comparable to the expansion of gases.
 
well those theorists need to answer basic questions first!
@ACuriousMind Mr. Linguist, why does Yosida use a mathfrak E for the Frechet space of smooth functions?
 

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