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user228700
12:00 PM
Anyway, I'm off. Bye :-)
 
skill patrol
skill patrol
Cya.
 
John Rennie
John Rennie
Bye
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
@skillpatrol subject tests
just maxing out on everything I can :P
 
skill patrol
skill patrol
I see.
Maxing out leads to burning out.
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
I have 4 years before I join a graduate school
I tried the Chem sample paper
It appears like IITJEE syllabus
hitting two birds with one stone
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
12:08 PM
IIT JEE is for undergrad admissions, right?
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
yes
but everybody gets taught UG math, physics, chem in coaching institutions
so that we can cheat in the exam
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
@YashasSamaga Here (Iran) we have a similar test for university entrance. It is a 4.5 hours long multiple choice test in Math, Physics, Chemistry, Literature and English.
I scored very well (top 0.01%) and made it to one of the best programs, but hate it more than anything else in my 16 years of education so far
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
aw
Here the IITJEE training institutions blow the syllabus out of proportions
If the test tests for 1 + 1, the institutions will teach you how to multiply numbers
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
such tests are at least 50% techniques rather than knowledge
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
yes
it is all about techniques
The problem is you get 90 questions, 180 minutes.
so you have to be fast
the training institutions teach way outside the syllabus so that we can hack the problem
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
12:17 PM
Exact same thing here. I still believe I've never recovered from that 6 months of studying for that test.
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
6 months?
Students are trained for 4 years here
12th grade gets over in 8th grade
and we start UG math, physics, chem from 8th grade
as a matter of fact, one out of every 5 students in India score 800 in SAT Math
let me show u the percentiles
88th
Your National Percentile
for 800/800 in Physics
90th
Your National Percentile
800/800 chemistry
80th
Your National Percentile
800/800 in math level 2
it feels like solving 9th grade questions in 12th grade
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
Here also 90% of students start from the beginning of high school. But I didn't. I was studying for the Physics olympiad at that time.
I completely feel what you're saying....and I really hate it. I consider myself a victim of such system.
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
The U.S. standard is too low.
The so called "advanced" placement tests which are conducted in U.S. are our high school 12th grade syllabus
high school syllabus != IITJEE syllabus
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
I remember a research institute in India consisting of high school students doing research in String theory and high energy physics but can't find it now
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
TIFR?
Though there is one problem with India's education system, nobody knows what they are taught properly.
 
Kenshin
Kenshin
12:27 PM
Who care's who's education system is better
success isn't measured by your education but by your achievements
education itself isn't an achievement, it is a means to an end
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
@YashasSamaga I visited TIFR website it doesn't have any high school kids doing research in HEP
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
CMI is having high school students doing research in math
IISc has graduate students who are just 20 years old
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
I'm trying to find it
We had one similar user here a few years back
Dimension10
but I can't find him now neither
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@Kenshin And who cares about your "success" if you're feeling miserable? Hearing about all this testing and training and competition students are apparently subjected to worries me deeply.
@Mostafa He has changed his username here and now primarily participates at PhysicsOverflow (or did, I don't know about PO's current status)
 
Kenshin
Kenshin
@ACuriousMind yes that's my point. Having a very competitive yet thorough education system isn't necessarily a good thing. More focus is on "education" than actually getting good things done for society
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
12:40 PM
I do not believe that being drilled to succeed in tests is what is usually meant by a "focus on education" :P
 
Kenshin
Kenshin
@ACuriousMind well yes but that is semantics, I think we are in agreement in principle
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
@ACuriousMind That's exactly what I'm saying. You should be thankful that didn't experience such a system.
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
Well, students are not forced into it.
Majority of the students go through the normal schooling here (India).
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
What is "normal schooling"?
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
you study 12th grade in 12th grade
in the other highly competitive schooling, you finish off 12th grade in 8th and start UG
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
12:47 PM
What about university entrance?
 
Yashas Samaga
Yashas Samaga
Some take in 11th grade, some in 12th grade
There are students with MSc who are just 16 years old.
The record holder is a 15 year old girl atm.
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
I couldn't find that website but could find Dimension10. He had difficulties explaining some concepts in electrostatics yet he participated in discussions on string theory (which I couldn't understand).
 
Slereah
Slereah
To be fair I know GR but I barely remember thermodynamics
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind sounds like you're new to India
@ACuriousMind I'm not convinced that India is producing a higher quality workforce than we (the west) are
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
1:02 PM
@0celo7 Never claimed it does, that's not the point
 
0celo7
0celo7
Their GDP is growing quickly, I'll give them that
@ACuriousMind I would be less worried if there was tangible benefit
I wasn't disagreeing with you
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
All they claim is to have a stronger theoretical education.
But even in that area I can't see the outcome
 
0celo7
0celo7
What does theoretical stuff have to do with engineering?
@YashasSamaga where I went to school, it was normal to take many of them
I took 11 AP classes
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
@0celo7 Engineering students here are just weakened Science students.
But still they're stronger in science than actual science students!!! Because top students mostly choose engineering over science.
It's complicated :)
 
Slereah
Slereah
Go France
Although France is really shit for physics research actually
 
0celo7
0celo7
1:18 PM
@ACuriousMind Is your AI-ness aware of what an "escort mission" is?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 It's a mission where you have get some NPC somewhere without them dying. Very annoying if their AI is stupid.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind Yes. Imagine having to do an escort mission with five children, one of which is crippled.
Imagine getting to the helicopter after about the 10th try, then getting in the helicopter...and then the helicopter flying off without letting the other four children get on.
@ACuriousMind But hey, look at this camera angle.
 
Koolman
Koolman
@Mostafa no data for china and India
@YashasSamaga are you an iitian
 
0celo7
0celo7
What is an Iitian?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 I do recall reading about that in the reviews now that you keep mentioning it.
@0celo7 Someone who attends IIT, I guess?
 
0celo7
0celo7
1:27 PM
Oh.
 
Koolman
Koolman
@ACuriousMind yeah
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 Yeah, stupid game AI is annoying if it makes missions fail unnecessarily.
It's also pretty hard to get right, apparently.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind I'm actually upset that this game runs on my laptop. I can play on 1280x800 with mid-high settings and get 60fps while only using 60% of my GPU, but TW3 was using 100% of my GPU on 720p while only getting 10fps >:(
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
I'm playing through TW3+expansions again right now, actually.
 
0celo7
0celo7
Grr
I have enough money for a gaming rig but I don't want to lose what's left of my free will
 
Mostafa
Mostafa
1:32 PM
@Koolman Almost sure that China and India are the first two (don't know the order)
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind When's the next Steam sale? I'm going to try to get TW3 to work again
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 Free will is an illusion, anyway :)
 
0celo7
0celo7
Oh please
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 No idea, I got it on GOG, they have sales sometimes, too
 
Slereah
Slereah
what about paying will
$5 for will
 
0celo7
0celo7
1:34 PM
@ACuriousMind I need a place with a good return policy.
Just download more free will
 
Koolman
Koolman
List of top international rankings by country
This list of top international rankings by country includes global-scale lists of countries with rankings (this list only contains sovereign states), sorted by country that is placed top or bottom in the respective ranking. == List == In order to limit the scope of the list and distinguish notable statistical indicators from trivial ones, entries in this list should contain a link to one of the following: A list of countries with the corresponding ranking An article which contains the corresponding ranking in one of its sections A global-scale map reflecting the corresponding ranking The following...
 
Moses
Moses
hi.all
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@Slereah Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Bart sells his soul
 
Slereah
Slereah
The Simpsons has that usual weird cartoon theology where all religions are true somewhat
 
ZeroTheHero
ZeroTheHero
@Slereah Hmmm... we should ask Serge Haroche about that.
 
Slereah
Slereah
1:39 PM
Why not ask me
I am in France right now!
 
Moses
Moses
are...the....tensor...products...in...quantum...mechanics...commutative?
 
ZeroTheHero
ZeroTheHero
I have quite an ambivalent view of the French system (in general). Some parts of it are truly first rate.
the rest is the rest... but it is really worse than other countries?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@Moses Depends on what you mean by that. Given a tensor product space $A\otimes B$, while $a\otimes b$ is an element of it for $a\in A,b\in B$, the object $b\otimes a$ is not, so it does not make sense to ask whether they are equal
 
ZeroTheHero
ZeroTheHero
@Slereah Some of the French science remains absolutely the best, in the way it is conceptualized and implemented.
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
However, there is an isomorphism of $A\otimes B$ to $B\otimes A$ that sends $a\otimes b$ to $b\otimes a$, so in that sense it is commutative.
 
Slereah
Slereah
1:43 PM
Hm, is there the equivalent of the principia mathematica for category theory?
Building all math from categories
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@Slereah It's called "fully formal ETCS" I think, cf. nlab
 
Slereah
Slereah
Let's give it a looksy
 
0celo7
0celo7
Damn nlab
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
Instead of set theory, you have the Elementary Theory of the Category of Sets.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind how many people actually understand nlab?
Or, what does one hope to prove with stuff on nlab?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
1:48 PM
@0celo7 All of it? Probably no one? Most of it? Probably not more than a few dozen.
 
Moses
Moses
thanks
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind And the second question?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 I think there's no one goal, given how much is on there. Some of it arose to address specific questions, some is merely recasting old things into what they call the nPOV, the viewpoint of higher category theory, because they believe it's an important unifying perspective on mathematics.
 
0celo7
0celo7
2:05 PM
@ACuriousMind Can one, say, prove something concrete that has a hard "classical" proof with an "easy" nProof?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 Well, for instance modern derived algebraic geometry doesn't really have a "classical" formulation, I think. All those sheaves and stacks and whatnots are only available from a category-theoretic viewpoint to begin with.
 
Secret
Secret
28
A: Is it theoretically possible to shield gravitational fields or waves?

Luboš MotlIn a consistent theory of gravity, there can't exist any objects that can shield the gravitational field in the same way as conductors shield the electric field. It follows from the positive-energy theorems and/or energy conditions (roughly saying that the energy density cannot be negative). To ...

I don't understand two bits of Lubos's answer:
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
I don't really understand higher category theory, so I cannot tell you whether there are "easy" proofs of old assertions, but taking a category-theoretic viewpoint is usually a tradeoff, in my experience - some things become easier, others become harder.
 
0celo7
0celo7
What becomes easier is what I'm asking
 
Slereah
Slereah
I think the Frontiers in propulsion physics book has designs for gravitational shielding
But like most GR designs, the energy requirements are ridiculous
 
Secret
Secret
2:13 PM
1. Why the requirement that spacetime is dynamical will mean negative mass cannot be present. I mean, we can (naively) plug negative mass into the gravitational time dilation equation to get a time constriction effect. Therefore the spacetime between a negative mass and a positive mass should cancel out to flat spacetime. I do not see how that will imply spacetime will lose its dynamical properties as Lubos claimed
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 One instance I know is that the existence of fiber products of schemes is rather technical in the classical view of schemes, but becomes very obvious if you view them as their equivalent "functors of points".
 
Slereah
Slereah
He only says that negative energy implies unstableness of the vacuum
Which isn't 100% true but it is mostly true
if you allow an unbounded from below hamiltonian you get weird processes like the vacuum radiating energy away
 
Secret
Secret
2. Why must the vacuum be stable and cannot spontanenously flucturating with positive and negative energy, analogous to fluctuations of matter and antimatter particles? We knew that the casmir effect is one of the experimental evidence of vacuum flucturation of particle antiparticle pairs (and possibly other quanutm fields), but what in experiments that we have (yet?) to observe that rules out flucturation of positive and negative energy quantum fields?
(sorry typed too slow, let me read your ans...)
Ok, so you mean we would have observed radiation spontaneously produced from the vacuum whenever the corresponding negative and positive energy quanutm fields flucturate in an analogous manner to antiparticles/particles? But the fact that we don't see such spontenously radiation events rules them out?
 
Slereah
Slereah
IIRC the classic screwy Hamiltonian is Klein Gordon with a cubic interaction
Particles and antiparticles are not a problem at all since both have positive energy
There's no link at all
In $\varphi^3$ theories you get tadpole diagrams that are non-zero
an easy way to see the problem is to look at the path integral
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind Why would I need a fiber product of schemes?
 
Slereah
Slereah
2:21 PM
The phase term will be (in the Euclidian version) $\approx e^{-\int \varphi^3}$
There are tons of configurations where that phase is positive and will just blow the fuck up
 
Secret
Secret
Ah I see...
 
Slereah
Slereah
you big liar
 
0celo7
0celo7
@Slereah language please
 
Slereah
Slereah
That is the technical term
You can check Hawking-Gibbons
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 Because it is very natural to consider schemes over another (e.g. the scheme associated to the base ring) and you'd like some sort of product that takes two schemes over X and gives another scheme over X and the naive Cartesian product doesn't do that, unfortunately
Take everything I say with a grain of salt because my algebraic geometry is a bit rusty and never was very good to begin with :P
 
Slereah
Slereah
2:25 PM
"The path integral of the conformal term of the action in Euclidian gravity will blow the fuck up"
- Hawking, the blowupiness of the Euclidian Hilbert action
 
0celo7
0celo7
I need evidence
 
Slereah
Slereah
1974
Obviously a fine technical term
Cebanov-Fucks Distribution
 
Secret
Secret
Well... I do have *tried* (but failed) to read scalar QFT a few months ago. Even it is quite fail because I am completely unaware of the concept of fock spaces, I do think I have read and learnt bits that are relevant. I also still have residual knowledge of GR form my undergrad course, Ocelo7 and Johnrennie's conversations. This plus a bunch of googling and PSEing will usually help me to achieve an understanding to 1st order of something that I have little background of.
Higher order understanding will then arrive once I fill in those gaps
 
Fawad
Fawad
Dumb question: oxides of sulphur,nitrogen,carbon… means oxides of sulphur, oxides of nitrogen,oxides of carbon or oxides of sulphur , and nitrogen , carbon…?
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
Hello
 
Slereah
Slereah
2:30 PM
"The main strategy there was decomposing the Gel'fand-Fucks cochain complex into irreducible factors and picking up the trivial representations and their concrete bases, and ours is essentially the same. "
I wonder if that's the same Gel'fand as the QFT one
Good to know he did some Fucks work
Although apparently the standard spelling is "Fuks"
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
Hello... M
 
Slereah
Slereah
Dmitry Borisovich Fuks, for his full name
 
0celo7
0celo7
Does that mean that Fucks is an allowed word now?
 
Slereah
Slereah
It's a perfectly valid variation on it, apparently
Here he is
on the right
And Gelfand is apparently indeed the same Gelfand as the GNS construction one!
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@0celo7 There are no allowed or forbidden words. What matters is not the words themselves but what you say with them.
 
Slereah
Slereah
2:37 PM
also the Gelfand triple
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
0
Q: is intrinsic spin conserved?

S.CHis intrinsic spin conserved?why? I would like to know how can we ratiocinate this concept with the help of Symmetry and Conservation Laws in physics.

quantum-mechanics quantum-field-theory quantum-spin
The one and only use of 'ratiocinate' on this site.
Seems like the guy learned from these other guys
(which link, btw, might be interesting for @DanielSank)
 
0celo7
0celo7
@EmilioPisanty what does that even mean?
 
Sid
Sid
Hey all! I am new here. So, a bit of help please..
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
> Definition of ratiocinate
> ratiocinated; ratiocinating
> intransitive verb
> : reason
@Sid ask away
@0celo7 as to why people say 'ratiocinate' instead of 'reason', well...
you'd have to ask the Indian Supreme Court, for one
 
Sid
Sid
Well, It was mentioned in the Question FAQ that "Ask questions that can be answered and not discussed". So, What exactly do you mean by answered and discussed? Subjective and objective?
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
2:49 PM
@Sid roughly, yes
it's impossible to give hard definitions that work in all cases
have you got something specific in mind?
 
Koolman
Koolman
Hi @YashasSamaga
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
Convex lens in our eyes form inverted image but we see erect, why?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@Ramanujan 'cause our brains are smart. What you perceive is wildly different from the naive optical image that forms on your retina.
 
Sid
Sid
Okay, I have got a question, but I am not sure, if it is a fit for the site. "Say,there is a current-carrying loop in a time-varying Magnetic field. Now, As Magnetic field is varying, there would be a change in magnetic flux and hence, emf would be induced in the loop by Faraday's law. Since, emf is induced, there is a net Electric Field. Now, would the motion of the loop be different if I first place it in a uniform magnetic field and uniform Electric field at the same time?"
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
Lamp is lighted in the running bicycle but it goes off when the bicycle is stopped, why?
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
3:06 PM
@Sid that's nowhere near the 'discuss' side, so you're safe from that
but it's not particularly clear what you mean by the last sentence.
 
Sid
Sid
What I mean, is that initially, there was a time-varying magnetic field and a loop entered with some velocity(Yes, I didn't make that clear, initially, but that's what I mean), So, it undergoes some motion. And since, there would be an Electric field induced, it also has motion due to Electric field. Now, what if the loop enters into a Uniform Magnetic Field and Uniform Electric field acting at the same place, would it make any difference to its initial motion?
 
0celo7
0celo7
@EmilioPisanty they actually write like that?
I don't see ratiocinate in there
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
Hello @JohnRennie
 
John Rennie
John Rennie
Hi :-)
 
Sid
Sid
Is it Fine, if I post that question on the main site?
 
Koolman
Koolman
3:17 PM
A thin copper tube of outer radius 0.5 cm carries a liquid flowing at T - 100°C. The copper
tube loses hest according to Newton's law with constant of proportionality 3x$10^{-3}$cal/cm$^2$sec°C . The temperature of surrounding is 20°C. Now we coat n layer with thermal conductivity 2.8 X 10$^{-3} $ cal/cm°C sec. The layer is 0.5 cm thick. Assume that outer surface of layer loses heat with same constant of proportionality .We have to find the ratio of rate of heat loss .
Can anybody help me in this
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
@JohnRennie, why does a transformer not alter DC voltage?
 
John Rennie
John Rennie
@Ramanujan I'm eating my lunch at the moment. let me get back to you on that one.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@ACuriousMind Based German language
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
@JohnRennie,ok
 
0celo7
0celo7
The German title for SW8 reveals there are multiple last Jedi
If it's just Luke and that girl I will be upset
I need Mace Windu back in my life
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
3:22 PM
@0celo7 Not necessarily, it might e.g. possibly refer to Luke making some people new Jedi during the movie, no?
 
skill patrol
skill patrol
Whatever happened to Jaba the hut?
 
Fawad
Fawad
Are @skillpatrol and @skullpetrol same?
 
0celo7
0celo7
Naked princess lady killed him
(Can't spell her name)
(Autocorrect keeps telling me I mean leash)
 
skill patrol
skill patrol
@Fawad perhaps ;-)
 
Sid
Sid
Why isn't there a tag wiki on "Electromagnetic induction"?
 
obe
obe
3:35 PM
sup
 
skill patrol
skill patrol
chillin, you?
 
obe
obe
slept in and now I dunno what to do xD
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
@0celo7 yeah, those are direct Indian Supreme Court quotes
go to the link for more
 
Ramanujan
Ramanujan
@JohnRennie, Hello
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
@Sid tag wikis are unfortunately not one of the better-maintained aspects of this site
@Sid that's an on-topic question, for sure
it still sounds confused to me, but you can definitely ask it on the main site
 
Sid
Sid
3:43 PM
Huh? Well, tag-wikis are pretty well-maintained in Puzzling. I assumed it would be the same here.
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
@Sid the SE network is wide and varied
 
satyatech
satyatech
Does a positronium ion have a proton
@everybody
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
@satyatech no
it's a lone positron
positronium (neutral) is a positron and an electron
@0celo7 OK, yeah, no ratiocinate in the full opinion, but still
I'd put some money on the claim that you'll find it with some moderate text mining on that database
 
0celo7
0celo7
@EmilioPisanty so it's this "Indian English" one hears about?
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
@0celo7 potentially?
 
0celo7
0celo7
3:56 PM
Otherwise I don't see what the Indian Supreme Court has to do with this
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
I wouldn't want to generalize without knowing, so I won't
but I did hear from my brother that it was fairly common for folks to say "the proprietor is not available" in situations where "the owner isn't here" would do
you'd have to ask @Kaumudi.H how common it is to have that sort of language in India
 
Sid
Sid
Well, I am an Indian, if that helps..
 
Emilio Pisanty
Emilio Pisanty
@Sid any thoughts on how unduly bizantine those quotes above are?
 
Sid
Sid
Whoa. At least those things aren't heard from the common locals around.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@EmilioPisanty It's a metaphor for their educational system: overly complicated.
 
Sid
Sid
4:04 PM
Overly complicated? Please elaborate
 
0celo7
0celo7
@Sid There's so many tests and schools and levels and it's all insane
people taking years off just to study for tests
 
Sid
Sid
Well, you have to qualify tests to get into colleges.
There is no alternative for that
 
obe
obe
there isn't?
 
0celo7
0celo7
I don't think the German system works like that
can @ACuriousMind clarify?
In America, you need a certain score, sure, but the exams are not insane
 
obe
obe
in canada we have no qualifying tests for university whatsoever.
 
0celo7
0celo7
4:07 PM
@obe Well, Canada is the size of a moderate-sized Indian village in terms of population.
 
obe
obe
don't worry the population is increasing because of your president.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@obe How many visas has your government granted because of Trump?
Last time I heard, it was a big fat zero.
 
obe
obe
lol they won't grant them "because of trump"
 
0celo7
0celo7
How many new residents has Canada received that aren't islamists?
Although if you want to take ours, that's fine I guess.
 
obe
obe
lmao
seriously?
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
4:11 PM
@0celo7 It's a bit difficult to explain. If you have completed a school degree that allows you to study at a university, then usually there will be no more qualifying tests. Usually, either the total score of your school degree or the individual grades in individual subjects will determine admission to a specific course at specific unversities, but barriers are fairly low except for "high-profile" subjects like medicine or law.
 
Sid
Sid
Okay, see, every year, close to 1 million students give JEE(Engineering entrance) exam and 600,000 students give NEET(For admission into medicine course). Out of those, First 200,000 students qualify in JEE and give another "Advanced test" out of which around 20,000 students are taken in to the premier engineering colleges and 50,000 are taken in for medicine course. How else will you choose 50,000 students from a million students?
 
0celo7
0celo7
@Sid I'm aware of the numbers.
India is huge, I get that. Doesn't make it less insane.
 
obe
obe
@0celo7 not all refugees are relgious dude, and not all refugees are from islamic countries. also there are more ppl immigrating to canada than just refugees.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@obe Where are refugees coming from that are not from Islamic countries?
Genuine question.
Ukraine?
 
Sid
Sid
@0celo7 I don't argue with the insane part. What I am telling is, it is the necessary evil at the moment. There is no alternative for us, right now.
 
0celo7
0celo7
4:15 PM
@Sid I agree.
What do the people do who don't pass the JEE?
 
Secret
Secret
Functional integration
Functional integration is a collection of results in mathematics and physics where the domain of an integral is no longer a region of space, but a space of functions. Functional integrals arise in probability, in the study of partial differential equations, and in the path integral approach to the quantum mechanics of particles and fields. In an ordinary integral there is a function to be integrated (the integrand) and a region of space over which to integrate the function (the domain of integration). The process of integration consists of adding up the values of the integrand for each point of...
 
0celo7
0celo7
Are there even 200,000 new engineering jobs every where?
 
Secret
Secret
so that's how they are defined
 
obe
obe
@0celo7
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
I think one aspect of the lower barriers is that not everyone is expected to go to university. It's a rising expectation in the last decades, but still, it's not obligatory and I know a sizable amount of people who could've gone to university and chose to learn a trade instead.
 
obe
obe
4:16 PM
you have a point there though.
 
0celo7
0celo7
320 "refugees" from America LMAO
 
obe
obe
xD
 
0celo7
0celo7
@obe 2014.
That's before Trump
I thought Obama was inclusive?
 
Sid
Sid
@0celo7 Well, If by pass the JEE, you mean, not get the qualifying marks for the next level, some of them study for years to pass it while others take admission into private colleges(which means they pay a hefty amount to get a degree) and very few go for MSc, I believe.
 
obe
obe
it should look about the same but larger numbers and some extra countries.
let me try and find a 2017 one
 
0celo7
0celo7
4:18 PM
@obe You will see Syria explode I imagine.
last year they brought in at least 10,000 I think
@Sid how do you get an MS if you don't get into college?
 
obe
obe
wait can we ignore refugees
 
Sid
Sid
Of course, they get into college. MSc does not depend upon JEE scores. Universities accept students on basis of Marks received in Grade 12
 
obe
obe
there are about 300,000 immigrants coming in 2017. IIRC that's the usual number.
most of them are normal people from a diverse number of countries.
 
0celo7
0celo7
ok, so 300,000 more
 
obe
obe
thing is, your president will make more skilled workers feel safer coming to canada instead of the usa.
 
0celo7
0celo7
4:21 PM
India is still 20 times larger
 
obe
obe
you can't deny that xD
 
0celo7
0celo7
My response to that would violate chat rules.
 
obe
obe
okay let's end it there then
 
0celo7
0celo7
So I guess I won't respond.
 
obe
obe
I dislike politics
I washed a hand made wool sweater and it became stiff after it dried.
 
0celo7
0celo7
4:23 PM
@ACuriousMind Quiet is basically a get-out-of-jail free card
If you're about to be discovered, order her to snipe someone
The whole enemy force will charge her position, and she just teleports away
 
obe
obe
@0celo7 know any chill songs?
 
0celo7
0celo7
yes
 
obe
obe
link?
 
0celo7
0celo7
I'm in class
 
obe
obe
later then.
 
obe
obe
4:44 PM
hi @skullpetrol @skillpatrol
 
skullpetrol
skullpetrol
Hi pal @obe
How are you doing?
 
obe
obe
bad
well
 
skullpetrol
skullpetrol
wazzup?
 
obe
obe
idk
I need to get my shit together
 
0celo7
0celo7
language
 
obe
obe
4:48 PM
lol
 
0celo7
0celo7
what is funny?
 
skullpetrol
skullpetrol
You.
 
satyatech
satyatech
A proton captures a muon .Find the radius of the first Bohr orbit of this atom.
@Everybody
 
user228700
@0celo7 Isn't this place PG 13?
 
0celo7
0celo7
@Kaumudi.H G
 
obe
obe
4:50 PM
 
user228700
@0celo7 ?
 
skullpetrol
skullpetrol
G is for rated for a General family audience.
The "cleanest" rating.
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
This room is a not a product to be consumed for entertainment and is not rated at all :P
 
obe
obe
@ACuriousMind can you delete my link about 0celo7 ^
 
skullpetrol
skullpetrol
::stops making popcorn::
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
4:54 PM
@obe I could, but why would I?
 
obe
obe
idk I think it's not very nice.
I regret posting it.
 
0celo7
0celo7
@obe not me
 
obe
obe
oh
 
0celo7
0celo7
I don't know who this imposter is, but it's pretty evil
 
skullpetrol
skullpetrol
Gaming?
 
0celo7
0celo7
4:56 PM
@ACuriousMind Can you please ban this fake 0celo7
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@obe Everyone's utterances in chat are a matter of public record, we all have to live with the possibility of someone quoting them at us.
 
obe
obe
@ACuriousMind well it's not the real 0celo7 in this case :p
 
ACuriousMind
ACuriousMind
@obe It is, just click on the name to see it's the same user profile.
 
0celo7
0celo7
that's what's so evil about it
ban him!!!
 
obe
obe
@ACuriousMind I used the sarcasm emoji lol
oh well
 
Fawad
Fawad
4:58 PM
Never mind
 
skullpetrol
skullpetrol
(removed)
(moved to the trash)
 
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