@0celo7 have you ever played guild wars?

@FenderLesPaul no

@KyleKanos why are you obsessed with breaking games

you always say "oh this game can be broken and run in like 15 minutes"

@KyleKanos OoT is not an RPG

Wiki says action adventure

I'll agree that it's not really an RPG in the more traditional sense of FF/CT/etc

But if you look at any list of "Top N RPGs" it's usually in the Top 3 anyways

Also, I'm not obsessed with breaking games per se, just the speed runs. In many cases, speed runs are done in X number of minutes because of game-breaking glitches

@skillpatrol He is all kinds of knobs

"Best RPGs" for me is a pretty short list

Planescape Torment, 'course

Then... Morrowind?

Also Vampire

At least Vampire's beginning

Vampire Masquerade has a bad case of the shniffles

shitty ending syndrome

Morrowind is pretty dope

It starts out as a fun gritty urban RPG in the underbelly of the paranormal world

Then it ends up as a series of dungeon crawling

A very bad idea when you can't grind, because then you end up with the wrong skillset at the end

Fallout's pretty good too

And Arcanum

I liked the original Mass Effect a lot

the later ones didn't do it for me

eh

didn't like fallout though

I think I love Planescape so much because it is so unlike most other RPGs

The story and the setting tried to be as far as possible from usual RPG fare

Up until now I thought that said PlanetEscape

It is called Planescape because it takes place on the outer planes of D&D

They even tried to make swords and armors almost absent from the game just to avoid the usual RPG look

Morrowind isn't too bad either in the original look

Really all the RPGs I mentionned to some degree

Arcanum is all steampunky but it was in an era when that was still somewhat rare

Dragon Age isn't bad, but god that plot and setting

I could've done without the stupid romance plots that BioWare keeps shoving in everyone's face

I play games to get away from that stuff in real life

why the fuck would I want a crappier animated drama in a game?

Also really

Medieval fantasy setting

A dragon and evil hordes threaten the kingdoms of men

Going the extra mile!

gotta love that one battle scene that literally looks like a shitty animated version of the battle of helm's deep in LoTR

Although to be fair, I liked Fable

But Fable is so very fantasy RPG cliché that it becomes hilarious

Fable was pretty humorous though

it pokes fun at itself

I thought Fable 3 was shit

and also I played fable when I was really young

@0celo7 He misspelled the title.

so nothing was cliched for me back then

but nowadays I'm too jaded with age

Even by fairy tale standards it's pretty cliché

@skillpatrol I see

Currently the people who made Planescape are making a new RPG

After 20 years

I hope it'll be good

I thought Fable 2 was good, how was Fable 3 relative to 2?

I didn't enjoy it too much

@Slereah playing games means you're not learning GR

but that was around the time I was playing Oblivion rather frequently so I didn't enjoy many RPGs outside of Oblivion

what if it's a GR game, though

You don't know

Interstellar the video game

Prove the gravity equation

and show that love transcends all dimensions

@ta3920 I signed up months ago

@Slereah No Man's Sky might just fit that condition?

Interstellar was p. shit GR-wise

@0celo7 Mind sharing your classes?

For a start the wormhole was actually an image of a BLACK HOLE

@Slereah yeah not likely

Lazy buggers

He's just taking a bunch of developmental sociology courses

yeah that and college algebra

I want get the unabridged SJW bath

0celo7: but do any of these results hold in a curved manifold?

teacher: who the fuck let this little shit into a college algebra class?

lol

almost done with this paper

it's pretty good

"Sulu's Ghost, a literary analysis"

Who is Sulu?

He is a star trek man

@ta3920 I'm sorry if I know you, but I don't recognize your username

@0celo7 I've spoken here only a few times, and it might've been under a different username, so chances are nobody does.

@ta3920 ODEs, Linear algebra, Physics 1, English, Psychology of thinking, Engineering CS 1 MATLAB

MATLAB is a cute language

People are trying to get a SE site based on it:

I learn FORTRAN somewhere too

@0celo7 The only reasonable language out there ::shrug::

Psychology of thinking sounds cool too

I say this just having built a neat little Fantasy Football randomizer in Python

@KyleKanos is large-scale supercomputer stuff done in FORTRAN?

(Object oriented too, though not sure how much one would consider it OOP)

@0celo7 Some of it, yes. Others in C and C++

@KyleKanos you could have learned some GR topology in that time

But this was way more fun and potentially income-related

Spacetime topology is great.

@KyleKanos yeah, probably

If I can get it built as an app, I will be in the money dude

give me some pls

I needs the college monies

Do you have all your textbooks yet

most

what's missing?

I still need physics ($305) and another lit book

English?

I don't know if linear algebra uses a book or if it's notes based

Find out ASAP

@0celo7 They're making you retake Physics I, or did you just want to review? Or is Physics I not what I think it is?

0celo7 doesn't know the material in physics 1 actually

@ta3920 making me retake

inclined plane? what's that?

@0celo7 Did you take the AP test on it?

is that an airplane taking off?

an airplane with a strange inclination

@FenderLesPaul I knew what Einstein's equations were before a coefficient of friction.

@KyleKanos Yes.

@0celo7 that's unfortunate, at least you got into PDEs. The school doesn't let you try to place out another way, if you really wanted to (seems like you're advanced enough to skip a few years)?

@0celo7 Not high enough to be exempted?

@KyleKanos 5

"no exceptions"

@KyleKanos ...you really thought I didn't get a 5 in intro physics?

@ta3920 ODE

@0celo7 Apparently. Though the "no exceptions" thing is kinda understandable

Many engineering colleges want their students to go through physics to weed them out

@ta3920 I'm going to look into skipping calc 3

Something along the lines of "The kids who can't pass physics probably shouldn't be engineers"

@KyleKanos I read the reviews of the prof, this is definitely the weed-out clas

And rather than waste the student's time with dragging them along, get it out right away

and that's the book you don't have

excuse me?

hello

@KyleKanos my dad gleefully regails 2/3 of his freshman class being decimated in Calculus 1&2

@skillpatrol what?

I'm taking calc 3 next semester

Yeah, that was one of the things I really don't like about taking a teaching profession: having to fail the students. I'd lose hope in humanity after a while

@skillpatrol I still don't get it

is that^ the weed-out textbook?

oh yeah

but it's the same book I used in HS

the labs in this class are apparently monsters

Ok, exactly the same book?

yes

nice, and you aced the course, right?

yes

I'm not going to have a problem with the material, but everyone complains about the sheer amount of homework and lab work

@0celo7 woops my bad. Is it normal for every single physics course to have a lab component? I wanted to take a class but the lab conflicted with my schedule so much, and apparently it's a ton of additional work.

@ta3920 my major is essentially applied nuclear physics, so I have to do a lot of lab classes

Idk about other programs

ask @KyleKanos

@0celo7 Nvm. Some higher level courses are more theoretical without a lab, but to get to those I have to go through a few terms of labs. It's reasonable I guess.

@ta3920 I think some of my higher level labs will be quite interesting

it shouldn't be called science without a lab

@skillpatrol is string theory a science?

@Huy dont know too much either but feynman/ wolfram were apparently cohorts for a time at caltech. the remarkable letter by feynman is (apparently) about wolframs ideas to start a new independent laboratory or research center, pre wolfram research, away from the university, somehow unshackled.

@KyleKanos I think Mortal Kombat is a little too violet for me.

@KyleKanos I can't find an English FF5 SNES ROM.

No @0celo7 string theory is no more or less of a science than the theory of relativity. Both are theories because it is stated in their titles.

To really understand what a science is you have to go back to its original definition, which was any systematic study of knowledge. Under this definition even theology is considered a science.

@skullpatrol I thought science had to follow the scientific method

Also, the science of reduction and comparison was the original name for Algebra.

The phrase the "scientific method" came much later @0celo7

This is a very long and interesting topic.

I'm just giving you an idea of the original uses of the word "Science"

Which, of course, still apply today.

Any method which claims to be scientific must be systematic.

By the original definition given above.

who cares?

o/

Hi pal

@KyleKanos I'm quite surprised that Mathematica has a SE and Matlab doesn't. Just looking at the numbers of employees, MathWorks is ~5x bigger, and indeed in many engineering schools every student will have used Matlab. The only Mathematica users I've met have been physicists/mathematicians. I suppose both may well be going the way of the Dodo with Python (or perhaps something else, like Julia) replacing them. Not quite there yet in terms of features etc, though.

@0celo7 Scientific computation with an old code base, yes, you'll probably see Fortran (and newer ones probably use BLAS/LAPACK or similar libraries written in Fortran). But even so the software may provide e.g. Python wrappers and unless you need to add new computational tools to the core, you may not see the code that much. So even if there were no wrappers, if there is no nice way of interfacing with the data with the software, you may want to write standalone software to do the analysis.

As an example of my own workflow, I would generate systems (set up initial conditions, parameters etc) mainly using shell tools (bash, awk, sed, etc). Some parts I might have done with C/Python. Others yet with C++ where I pulled in the software I was using to do the simulation as a library so that I could use its transformations etc. Then I would queue up the simulation, and once I would have the data I would use a similar combination of tools to analyze it as I did preparing the system.

While I did touch the computational core as well, and these were maybe some of the most interesting parts of the research, I would say most of my time was spent elsewhere (preparation and analysis).

MINOS has a independent measure of beam neutrino speed Fermilab to Minnesota: arxiv.org/abs/1507.04328.

@dmckee $1.0\pm 0.1\times 10^{-5} c$, seems good ;D

I love how little we understand about mathematics :D

Mathematics isn't even ready for the collatz conjecture. According to halmos.

Please pardon my lack of capitalization^

:-/

@0celo7 Have you looked here: fantasyanime.com/finalfantasy/ff5/ff5down.htm ?

@alarge What is weird is that the questions on the Matlab Area 51 page suggest an opposition to such a page, mostly around the idea that Matlab is a "programming language" where Mathematica is a full CAS & is more capable than Matlab (or some silly BS like that)

For all you fans of "ring" theory: "If you liked it, then you should have put a 'ring' on it.” -Beyonc ́e Knowles and if you still don't get it, listen to this

@KyleKanos Make up your mind yet? You watching?

I have some rather important emails to attend to, so probably not.

:(

You're gonna miss the master work his magic.

Perhaps.

Maybe I'll stream it in the background

master (of trolling) = the Donald

I had assumed as much