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19:05
It's roughly the equivalent of saying, "you can blame the Catholics for that"
19:16
Not offensive. But flame bait. :)
I think it's exacerbated by the fact that the user doesn't seem to be very good at English. The way he writes it comes off as more offensive than what I think he was trying to say. But it's also true that the whole discussion is probably not constructive.
in Discussion about Islam's view of Judaism and assorted extended discussions, 3 mins ago, by Madara Uchiha
@Ali I think we get your point. You love trolling over technicalities. Religion is something I define as a red limit. Stop with your nonsense, because you obviously annoy the others. Otherwise, I will suspend you from chat. Plain and simple.
What a silly argument
He realized he's trolling the others, and yet he continues.
It's not a matter of bad English, it's easy to tell when people are pissed at you.
@MadaraUchiha I agree that his overall tone isn't acceptable, and the discussion is rather ludicrous in my opinion. I was just saying that the particular message first posted wasn't actually so offensive.
19:28
I was tempted to correct his language usage.
@LoganM There's a certain... resentment between Israelis and Muslims in general, and Arabs specifically.
Being called a Muslim, for a Jew who doesn't know better, sounds offensive.
You can tell them it was me who noticed the flag.
@MadaraUchiha I'm aware of that, though I'm not qualified to comment on it. Anyway the room got frozen so presumably they'll work something out.
@LoganM Yeah
The whole room seemed like an incident waiting to happen.
It's like asking China and Japan to debate the Senkaku/Daioyu Island controversy
19:34
That room is a mess...
quick glance at the transcript...
@Mysticial It's actually a fun read if you don't pay much attention and put on some bubblegum pop or something by Perfume or something similar.
50 rep says that room is gonna get deleted.
But I think 10k can still see deleted rooms.
@Mysticial Betting rep would be fun. :)
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Q: Can we bet rep?

R. Martinho FernandesI remember once someone in chat tried to bet 100 rep with someone else about some silly thing. Something like, "I bet you 100 rep this you can't tell what animal is in this picture!" At the time, it wasn't really feasible for the loser of the bet to pay up, so we probably had to beat him up in...

^^ The idea came from our C++ room.
@Mysticial lol!
That's great!
:D
19:51
lol @ the comment of the accepted answer
@Mysticial I don't understand that answer. It's like those people actually think rep matters and is a decent measure of something.
@LoganM but it is an good indicator of how reputable a user's answer is
@LoganM Reputation is a meter for veterancy, nothing else.
There are 100 rep users who are much more expert/mature/*good* in general than a 40k user.
See example, Neal.
@Krazer More like how much time the answerer has spent on that site. I tend to view average rep per answer (excluding rep from questions entirely) as a better measure of how good a person's answers are.
I concur with your statement
@MadaraUchiha ALL HAIL Madara-sama!
@LoganM Then you get people like me who get skewed by a small number of viral answers.
@MadaraUchiha I'm amazed how may have 0. I thought, y'know, they'd get 3 or 4...
@Eric 0 means negative score.
@MadaraUchiha ... Ouch.
20:21
It's not shown to prevent instinctive downvoting
I'm surprised they're shown at all.
Imagine getting upvotes on an answer as fast as during an election primary.
@Mysticial lol!
I wonder how high they'll go, too.
Think they'll beat 6300? :P
IIRC, last election had them up in the 3ks
Brad had 3873/-78 in the last election.
In 4 days.
... Geez.
20:28
So yes, nothing beats the speed of the elections.
If it was worth rep, tho, only +80 would count. :P
@Eric Unlikely
I don't think we've ever had an election with more than 5k voters in total
The compiler question had a short 6-hour burst of 1400+ votes when it front-paged on Reddit and HN.
Looks like our C++ candidate is in trouble already... :(
@Mysticial Who?
flexo
We need a C++ mod badly.
But none of us want to be mod. And he's the only one.
20:32
He's not in trouble.
He's in 4th, and there's 4 spots open.
Wow, me an Lix are ultra close
Andrew Barber is on fire ;O
@MadaraUchiha Yeah, he's as strong as Brad was in the last election.
Is it sorted randomly?
'Cuz I hate refreshing and trying to find people again. lol
20:36
@Mysticial Poke him... "(It's all be asked already though)" after talking about being picky on grammar
(or tease him mercilessly... your choice)
I love "I'm picky about grammer" and "I try to fix mispellings".
Those are my favorites.
Or "I'm very atentive to detail."
I can't say I'd even stand a chance in an election even if I tried. I don't act mature enough - especially in chat and on meta.
Eh... there is absolutely no way I'd pass the English section on a Japanese university entrance exam.
@jkerian I've never seen one, but I'd bet quite a lot that I would.
20:38
(my English is too nativey)
Depends, also, if they picked British or American English.
@jkerian why not?
oh
@Mysticial You'd be fine. Maybe not 1st place, but you'd definitely be positive. You're serious when it matters.
@Eric It's Japan, American English is the standard for them
20:39
@jkerian Good. "Colour", lol.
@Eric maybe?
And I'm Canadian!
anime
@user58512 it exists
I want to enter the 2D world
20:41
@user58512 play wow
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
lol
OMG you wrote y-cruncher
Cool!
Is it good thing that people recognize for y-cruncher? :P
@Mysticial It means you're a celebrity. Can I have your autograph? ;)
im from math
20:47
@Eric "Allow hand-written messages in chat." MSO -
lol!
@user58512 ah... do people know me there? From what I see, the math.SE and SO communities are pretty disjoint.
hmm I dont know
I am watching Binchou-tan one of my favorite anime,
has anyone seen it :D
nope :(
@MadaraUchiha I don't think there's a question ban on Mi Yodeya. :P
wow...
@Mysticial ... What the...
20:57
Obvious troll is obvious.
The only thing worse than trolling, is trolling about religion... I'm mean seriously...
He almost has more questions than rep.
won't hot-link?
no they do that referrer thing
21:03
ah
binchou-tan is awesome
yea :D
so you play go?
not that much anymore
used to play a lot in the 90's
I want to play it again but I have to wait til my classes are finished
yeah
you have to spend at least an hour or two a day if you want to play
21:10
hehe
otherwise you're always making stupid mistakes
I miss it a little
I just don't have that kind of time anymore, and whenever I play on KGS it's always blitz games, which is probably a bad habit to get into
yeah I agree
@Mysticial True, but I still think those special cases are less significant overall compared to the number of high rep users who are only there because they give mediocre answers to 20 questions per day or something ridiculous like that.
21:20
@MadaraUchiha damn, I only have 131 rep on SO. can't vote yet lol
@JNat What do you need? 200?
150
So close
for the primaries
.. lol.. So close indeed.
21:21
@JNat What?
@MadaraUchiha I cannot vote for the primaries
@JNat Really?
only for the final election
@MadaraUchiha yeah
I don't even have an SO account.
@JNat And you're sure of that?
@LoganM I salute you.
21:22
Yes, are your sure?
@MadaraUchiha yes, only now I can vote, lol
166 rep
@JNat what if you got the extra 20 rep before the primary ended?
voting irregularities :P
21:23
lol
I smell a conspiracy
@user58512 are you a grad student in math?
What are you studying?
math?
21:28
a lot of different things
groups numbers and logic
@Mysticial Presumably, but I meant what subdiscipline
I'm studying mathematical physics myself, specifically connections between algebraic topology and quantum field theory.
And I'm basically done. Just a thesis to go and I head home.
i was trying to knot a sphere
do you know how? :D
What are you embedding the sphere in?
21:31
S^2 -> R^4
its fun to think about
I don't know how to do it of the top of my head, though I know an easy reference for such a construction: rose-hulman.edu/mathjournal/archives/2003/vol4-n2/paper2/…
this looks nice!! Thank you
I suck at math.
Actually it's pretty simple. Take a trefoil knot (or any knot really) and do a suspension. The relevant diagram is on page 8.
@Mysticial Wtf?
lol
21:38
but I do actually
show me a contour integral and I puke
I should probably try to remember that since it's similar to stuff I use every day, namely cobordisms.
@Krazer You get to mop it up.
@Krazer That's not a contour integral. That's a basic integral.
21:40
@Mysticial lol I have trouble adding 2-digit numbers. I don't think being unable to do a contour integral makes you bad at math.
integral_1^e 1/x dx = log(e)
it's saying
@Mysticial just testing... you passed btw
Do I win?
@Eric Those are harder (in the general case).
I would expect so.
21:41
Yes, I'd consider the general case to be a contour integral.
@Eric I raise you
That one itself looks very easy, though. It's just theta/(2pi) * (pi * y_1 ^ 2).
do you know who this is ? :D
@Krazer I think @user58512 just topped you.
I fold. :(
@user58512 Riemann Zeta Function?
21:43
yes, you can do a contour integral to get a formula for the prime numbers
without puking, too
fuck...
My brain asplode.
^^
I know the Riemann Zeta Function and primes are related. But I never dared to look into the math.
Yesterday I forgot that it's cos(angle) = |adjacent| / |hypotenuse|. I spent a half hour trying to figure out why my math was wrong when using cos(|a| / |h|) = angle.
21:45
@user58512 lol I used contour integration for the first time in ages last week. Needed to find the coefficient of x^n in the power series expansion for (-x/(1-e^x))^(n+1), and I decided to try a silly approach. Turns out it's way faster than taking n derivatives of the expression; I solved it in 2 lines or so.
This is what happens when you take ALL the math in the first year of your degree, then just forget it all.
@LoganM, that's cool !
what does it count?
I needed that to calculate the Todd genus of CP^n if you know what that means. If not then you probably aren't a topologist, but that's okay too.
i;ve seen something like x/(1-e^x) for bernoulli numbers
no, I don't know geometry :(
^Warning: That's quite dense reading
21:50
Please, not more... I just finished reading the proof of Euler's product formula re: Riemann Zeta function.
My head hurts.
@LoganM Aw, you actually removed it? xD
@LoganM I've seen enough of that crap lately, no need to see it in my free time as well, thank you.
@Eric I did :P
@Eric I didn't remove it.
awwwww.......
Meanie Madara. lol
@MadaraUchiha You do algebraic topology in your free time? You may want to see a doctor about that.
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21:54
@LoganM Nah, a friend's about to go to collage and he's studying math and physics as preparation, I'm helping him with that.
nothing's wrong with a little exploring of the intrinsic qualitative aspects of spatial objects
lol maybe we should find some anime/manga to talk about.
Has anyone here seen Chitose Get You?
no but I love yonkoma so i might like it
did you look at the manga of it?
How about Number Theory? :P
If there's one area of Math I'm ok at... it's that. :P
waits to get banned by Madara
you can hide out in the math chat, they cant stop us there :p
@user58512 Actually he can. :)
oh no
@Krazer lol @ comments.
@user58512 I read the manga before the show came out. It's not terribly funny but it was the only thing I could think of.
22:04
@LoganM, just wondering if manga or anime would be better to try?
@user58512 I don't think it's a good show or manga, lol. Maybe you'll find it funny, but I just thought it was average. But if you really want to check it out, the anime is a bit better because the voice acting is good and it's short episodes (3 minutes or so)
ok :)
some good yonkoma?
@user58512 Little busters the 4koma
oh!
didnt know that existed
I don't read too many, but I do like Kill Me Baby, Seitokai Yakuindomo, and Hidamari Sketch.
22:09
I've seen Seitokai Yakuindomo. And I have on my to-do list.
@Krazer That one was pretty good too.
Episode 3 of Seitokai was amazing...
@LoganM I liked Shoulder-A-Coffin Kuro and GA: Genjutsuka Art Design Class
@Krazer I've read GA, it was good (I also liked the anime). Haven't touched Shoulder-A-Coffin Kuro.
257
Q: How should I deal with an employee who has slept with my wife?

Waiter JohnI'm the owner of a business with about 30-40 employees. Recently, I found out that one of my employees has been having an affair with my wife. The employee has worked for me for 4 years. I felt like I was his mentor, since I recruited straight from university, taught him the ropes, and promoted h...

This guy deserves a medal
At first I thought he was trolling
22:13
@LoganM I liked it, they released the 3rd volume (which I should get)
that's sad :(
@Mysticial Flexo is in 2nd place now.
Just fyi. ;)
@Eric oh?
barely
Well, there's a large gap between current 3rd and 4th.
About 100 votes.
@MadaraUchiha Wow I feel bad for that guy. Luckily Miki will never cheat on me.
22:16
Though Andrew is taking this by storm. Over 800.
Damn... 800 votes in 2 hours...
Miki?
@Mysticial This guy has 1st place for sure, and he deserves it.
22:17
@MadaraUchiha Stop trying to steal somebody's waifu!
... lmfao
I'm slightly amazed at how wrong the top-ranking definitions for "waifu" are on Google.
Much like "DFC".
@Mysticial "DFC" is a bit different as it can mean more than one thing.
@user58512 Hoshii Miki
@Eric just like WTF
22:24
@Krazer Where's the fridge?
@Eric Wasn't That Fun?
:D
is that idolmaster?
22:25
@user58512 yes
I like idolmaster but ive not seen it...
Oh and I'm a Chihaya fan btw. I think she has a better voice than Miki.
waits to be flamed by Logan
Uh oh.
Flame war detected.
@Mysticial You are wrong
... That's it?
lol
22:26
Is that really it?
Meh. I'm not going to go out of my way to insult you because Chihaya's pretty good too
CUE Distraction! gifsound.com/…
aww.... I'm disappointed. :)
@Krazer Sound doesn't work for me. :(
Nvm, requires Flash.
22:27
Very nice. :P
@Krazer Very distracting indeed
I think we need a bin for Anime. :)
Like pastebin, you mean?
Or perhaps the bin folder of a compiler?
22:29
@Mysticial maybe a good idea. lol
@Eric no, a trashbin
Oh. Lame. :(
Usually when people spam, or put annoying things in chat, room owners will just move the messages there.
I'm not saying that needs to be done here. I'm enjoying this.
But in the future, when we start getting trolls.
Or in our case, call the super awesome mods to clean it up
Good. I enjoyed looking at "YES" ragefaces.
22:30
Would be a shame to burn all those gems though
Find a good name for a bin for anime
@MadaraUchiha No worries, if you guys aren't around, I'll make the bin myself and assign the rights to the right people.
Originally the idea is to use the sandbox, I don't think binning NSFW images there is a good idea.
Since people legitimately use it for sandboxing.
Too bad we can't give the bin an icon.
@MadaraUchiha I'd say just "bin" for now and we can rename it later.
@Mysticial No, you know that'll never happen :P
That "later" thing is one of the biggest lies we tell ourselves.
22:33
./create ~/here anime.engrish.compilation
@LoganM xD the additional Chinese subs were a nice touch
362
Q: What is the best comment in source code you have ever encountered?

Thomas BrattWhat is the best comment in source code you have ever encountered?

One of the best of the best
lol
I leave myself comments to "future me" a lot. Not as exciting as the answers there, tho, but still fun.
Stuff like "WHY HAVEN'T YOU FIXED THIS YET, FUTURE ME!?"
22:41
BTW can you guys see the vote totals for the SO mod election? They don't seem to be visible to unregistered users.
@LoganM yes
Particularly this:
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A: What is the best comment in source code you have ever encountered?

Sulik #define TRUE FALSE //Happy debugging suckers

@LoganM It's a 1k privilege.
@Krazer Uncachable ChuckNorrisException? :D
#define TRUE 0
#define FALSE 1
22:43
Cycles in Family Tree?
@MadaraUchiha My favorite code ^
@Eric That's more than just evil...
:D
Alright folks, I'm off to bed
Let's see how bad I lost tomorrow :D
@MadaraUchiha 'Night.
lol
Not as bad as Neal. That's all that matters!
22:47
@Eric Aman to that!
I was actually surprised, he managed to breach the 0 barrier :P
@MadaraUchiha He did!? He was at 0 last I checked.
@Eric He was briefly 2
This crazy world...
@Krazer lol I posted that image a month ago or so. I don't think I could go to sleep listening to this.

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