Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Logan M

00:09

@Karasu Good timing. I just watched this yesterday.

!!youtube シズがいないと死んじゃうよ～

HoiHoi-san

►

Sakamoto

02:06

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Q: Trying to find out the name of an anime

I really want to know the name of an anime a watched a while ago, I only watched 1 or 2 episodes and all I can remember is that it is about an alien envasion but all the alien are wearing black suits and hat. And the main character truns out to have is awesome power to fight them so he joins up w...

identification-request

Sakamoto

03:46

0

Q: What could be Hashirama's age when they formed village.. not some random guess please

I've read the narutowiki page for hashirama but i could not find his age. I just want to compare the present naruto (in the anime not in manga.. i.e no sage powers yet..) to hashirama when he is 17 18 years.. As suggested many times that both of them have a great chakra reserves but Hashirama poi...

naruto

Sakamoto

04:26

0

Q: Anime from a long time ago!

when I was a kid I used to watch this anime that today I know it's a mecha and was about people who controls robots or autobots or whatever is the term. The only thing I can remember is that the robots could be destroyed and its pilot left behind... to kill them. I believe (I'm not certain) that ...

identification-request

mirroroftruth

04:40

#post

Karasu

Oshino Shinobu

I think I saw similar one before

not dupe tho

mirroroftruth

@OshinoShinobu when did you change your profile pic

Oshino Shinobu

just now

hey that was fast

mirroroftruth

oh , i thought i missed some thing when i was not here

may you were not in the chat when you changed it

or you entered chat after changing it

Oshino Shinobu

04:46

you miss Karasu's pictures

mirroroftruth

yes and i am watching all

full transcript

Oshino Shinobu

I change it like... 10-20 minutes ago?

Logan M

@OshinoShinobu we had another one by the same artist a while ago

Oshino Shinobu

yea that one

who is it

Logan M

That one is Keine from Touhou

new one is original character

Oshino Shinobu

04:49

I mean the artist

it's good

Logan M

Artist's pixiv page: pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=8189060

I have some more by them that will get posted later.

Oshino Shinobu

90 results :o

I want them all :3

Logan M

Then get all of them

mirroroftruth

you will need master ball to get them all :D

Logan M

I think I posted a program that you can use to automate it a while ago

Jun 3 '13 at 21:28, by Logan M

This is really useful for downloading pics of your waifu quickly: Pixiv Batch Downloader. There are others like it, but this is the one I use.

Oshino Shinobu

05:04

uh,, it doesn't work for xp?

Logan M

no idea, but possibly not

Oshino Shinobu

X(

my office pc use xp

mirroroftruth

:(

Logan M

This seems like a good reason to convince them to upgrade

Oshino Shinobu

I wish it was that easy, we have our own software that only work for xp so...

can't do anything about it

mirroroftruth

05:16

then you have to do some hard work

Logan M

what's more important, some old piece of software that should have been replaced 5 years ago, or cute girls?

mirroroftruth

your question should what is important cute girls or cute girls ?

Sakamoto

05:34

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Q: Who is Ruby Rose's father?

The wiki says that Taiyang Xiao Long, Yang's father, first married Summer Rose, Ruby's mother. But why isn't Ruby's name Ruby Xiao Long? This might mean that Ruby isn't the real daughter of Taiyang, probably his adopted daughter.

rwby

0

Q: Learning instant transmission

In the Dragonball Z anime series, as far as I remember, only Goku and Cooler (in a movie) could perform the instant transmission technique. Goku learned it from an alien race when he escaped from Namek after his epic battle with Frieza. It was a pretty awesome technique but no one else learned i...

dragon-ball

Oshino Shinobu

05:51

we develop the software on our own but too lazy too upgrade it for 7 :p

mirroroftruth

so what you gonna do , download one by one

Oshino Shinobu

I'll just download from home

mirroroftruth

home sweet home

Oshino Shinobu

spent all of my internet quota TT_TT

Sakamoto

06:05

0

Q: How/when did Van Hohenheim change his name?

In Botherhood (canon), Hohenhiem was originally just known as "23" or "Slave No. 23" but yet after Xerxes his name became Van Hohenheim. i am wondering if there is an in-universe canon explanation of how/when Van Hohenheim changed his name from 23/Slave No. 23 and where he got the name from (i'm...

fullmetal-alchemist

mirroroftruth

@OshinoShinobu so need to add more then

Oshino Shinobu

I guess I will, this time only...

mirroroftruth

yay cute girls gonna come home :)

Oshino Shinobu

:D

who can resist those girls

mirroroftruth

nobody

Karasu

06:08

mirroroftruth

@OshinoShinobu you watched mekaku city actor right

Oshino Shinobu

yea?

mirroroftruth

who is father of Marry Kozakura

Oshino Shinobu

no idea

mirroroftruth

haha

watching anime for 3 episode , only understand the ending story :D

Oshino Shinobu

06:17

what anime

Mekaku?

mirroroftruth

yes

story of demon

haha

Oshino Shinobu

I kinda drop it after 8 episode

mirroroftruth

haha

shaft animation just made thing worse if i say , i felt like that

Oshino Shinobu

06:38

shaft didn't make it any worse, IMO. the story just jump all over the place and do as they please, and I got bored because of that

mirroroftruth

that is one reason but the animation , the background , maybe to match the theme of anime

Oshino Shinobu

I don't mind the animation really, I like it

mirroroftruth

it was something different from the normal what i watch normally , it may be the reason that i tool time to adjust , but as anime progress i became comfortable

and completed the anime

Oshino Shinobu

well it's shaft, they always make anime like that

just like monogatari

and many other

not everyone like the style tho

mirroroftruth

but it watch a little bit different

i don't say i don't like shaft animation

don't forget nisekoi

Oshino Shinobu

06:50

yea also Nisekoi

mirroroftruth

so i do like their animation , don't i ?

Oshino Shinobu

I haven't watch that many Shaft to judge really

so far I like every animation style they have despite of not finished their anime

mirroroftruth

mekaku was derived from music video so i was searching all the video

i did get all in youtube but not sure that they are the original and official or not

Oshino Shinobu

what video

mirroroftruth

music video

Kagerou Project

The Kagerou Project (カゲロウプロジェクト, Kagerō Purojekuto, lit. "Heat Haze Project"), also known as "Kagerou Daze" (カゲロウデイズ, lit. "Heat Haze Daze"), is a Vocaloid song series created by Jin (also known as Shizen no Teki-P). The story revolves around the Mekakushi Dan, a group of teenagers with unusual eye-related powers. The series became popular on the video sharing website Niconico after the release of the song "Kagerou Daze", which also gave the series its name. The song has amassed over 3 million views and is the most popular song of the project. Five light novels have been released, written by Jin...

user1306322

07:05

Shaft is best

Oshino Shinobu

as long as it's good, it doesn't really matter if it's original or not

yea :D

mirroroftruth

i like the shaft look , created by shaft

user1306322

@OshinoShinobu oh sweet userpic!

@mirroroftruth sounds like a phrase from a cosmetics advertisement :D

Oshino Shinobu

@user1306322 thanks :D

mirroroftruth

@user1306322 haha

this look

Oshino Shinobu

07:09

broken neck shaft XD

mirroroftruth

i really like that look

Oshino Shinobu

I said, with a posed look

Karasu

user1306322

Oshino Shinobu

user1306322

07:24

she's lovely

I wonder what the hell is up with Ougi

is she like a secret bonus special plot device character?

Oshino Shinobu

he's a fake

or she

well, we can only wait for her own arc

unless you read ln

Sakurai Tomoki

Nyanpantsu~

Oshino Shinobu

nya...

pantsu~

user1306322

I'm not reading LN, I'm waiting for the anime adaptation by Shaft!

it's the cool thing to do

pantsu!

Sakurai Tomoki

07:42

Dang, the weather is so hot here. How is it in ur place, Shinobu?

Chanting Oppai

Oppai
Oppai
Oppai
Oppai
Oppai
Oppai

How many oppais can you say within 1 second?

user1306322

load testing the chat with oppai?

Sakurai Tomoki

No, Johannes Krauser II, Sakurai Tomoki version

user1306322

08:02

Prix did a test on chat autobans with Ruri, but I don't remember any definitive ruleset being posted

guess I"ll have to conduct my own research

I think chat responds with the timeout in seconds so you could automate the wait

at least it says how many seconds you must wait for users

Sakurai Tomoki

Maybe it wasn't triggered because those oppais are posted in a single post

user1306322

oh

must be it

but you can post the exact same messages consecutively, you just gotta wait 3 minutes between each

or use invisible secret characters

Logan M

doesn't it work also if you post something in between? Or am I misremembering?

user1306322

in another room?

Logan M

not sure about another room

but in the same room it should work

user1306322

08:13

if you mean A B A C A D then it's possible but why do that? :P

also I'm still accepting chat bot feature requests!

like anybody has any >.>

Sakurai Tomoki

!! Good afternoon

HoiHoi-san

@SakuraiTomoki That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Logan M

I guess you might do it for something like this (imagine they were separate messages):
#post
#potato
#post
#pohtaytoe
#post

Sakurai Tomoki

Well, that, @user1306322. Make it more friendly? I mean as the maid, a simple good afternoon reply would be good, right?

Sakamoto

0

Q: Why did Vali joined the Chaos Brigade?

Exactly as the title says. Why? As of the volume 16 of the light novel, the leader of Chaos Brigade is Rizevim Livan Lucifer, his grandfather. His grandfather killed Vali's father and was the man behind the bad treatment his parents gave him during his childhood (Rizevim Livan Lucifer & Vali Luci...

high-school-dxd

Logan M

08:17

@user1306322 I did suggest one a little while back iirc

user1306322

I'm still in the process of reworking the core bot app functionality, but the more suggestions I have in mind now, the better the core app will be suited to implement them

Logan M

in Shinonome Lab (東雲研究所), Oct 14 at 7:51, by Logan M

@user1306322 It would be cool for Karasu says nyanpasu~ when other people do. Maybe only if we get a chain of a few in a row though, and not more than once in a chain.

user1306322

can't exactly refit something for something you don't know about

Logan M

Feature request: cuter girls

user1306322

I've figured out the logic for that already, but it's in a separate module and the module manager is not implemented yet

Logan M

08:19

oh wait that's my job nvm

Sakurai Tomoki

Oh, even better, just make Hoi-Hoi adds "de gozaru" or something like that at the end of it/her sentence

user1306322

@LoganM this is entirely your responsibility now :P

@SakuraiTomoki we could do cosplays for bots

that's a nice idea

(stolen)

Sakurai Tomoki

@user1306322 good idea. Put several image files in one directory and make Hoi-Hoi apply 1 randomly everyday.

Logan M

Is there any way to programmatically enhance the cuteness of girls in images?

Sakurai Tomoki

@LoganM Image processing?

user1306322

08:21

there is, but it would not be perfect for a long time and the results would be uncanny as hell

Logan M

okay, we can have that as a long term goal i guess

Karasu

user1306322

is that a cat?

grumpy brown thing

Sakurai Tomoki

more like a tanuki, I say

Logan M

popcul-aichi.jp/character

Sakurai Tomoki

08:27

Oh, a feature so that when someone joins the chat room, Hoi-Hoi welcomes him/her

Like maids in maid cafes.

user1306322

this is a problematic one

Logan M

We can't have that one unless it's opt-in

Sakurai Tomoki

opt-in?

Logan M

SE devs have said it's not allowed

Sakurai Tomoki

Can't u just raise an event when someone joins and have Hoi-Hoi catch that?

Logan M

08:28

but presumably it would be okay if it's opt-in

It's possible to do with HoiHoi-san already. Just disabled.

user1306322

and it's pretty creepy without timeout, it's like the maid is watching you come in through the window and as soon as you touch the door, screams "WELCMOE MAH MASTRE" at you

Sakurai Tomoki

@user1306322 good for Halloween then

user1306322

hmm

I like you

say more stuff

Logan M

feature request: Have Karasu post philosophical quotes randomly at completely irrelevant times.

user1306322

oh yes that has been in for a long time

suits Karasu too

Logan M

08:36

Things like "A bird in the hand is not dinner tonight. Don't eat me.", "Don't count your chickens before they know not what they do.", or "Rome wasn't built in the sea."

user1306322

or was it?

we'll never know

I'll whip up a Quote module so you could upload quotes into it the same way as image links

Logan M

A friend of mine wrote a short script to generate nonsense quotes.

Sakurai Tomoki

What language Hoi-Hoi is written in? C++?

user1306322

javascript

Logan M

gist.github.com/yurivish/e20a803e5c3fa101a8aa

user1306322

08:39

no need to go into extremes when writing chat bots :p

Sakurai Tomoki

Karasu too?

user1306322

no, he's in C#

Logan M

You could integrate that into Karasu, or I could just run it and generate a few thousand.

user1306322

@LoganM coffeescript?

Logan M

yes

user1306322

08:40

uh yes, you should just give me the generated results >.>

(googles coffeescript)

Logan M

It compiles directly to javascript

Equivalent javascript code:

var randEntry, randIndex, randUpTo, _ref;

window._d = window.d = (_ref = typeof console !== "undefined" && console !== null ? console.log.bind(console) : void 0) != null ? _ref : function() {};

randUpTo = function(num) {
return ~~(num * Math.random());
};

randIndex = function(arr) {
return randUpTo(arr.length);
};

randEntry = function(arr) {
return arr[randIndex(arr)];
};

d3.text('data/aphorisms.txt', function(err, text) {
var db, generate, i, lineIndex, lines, token, tokens, tokensByLine, wordsByLine, _i, _j, _k, _len, _len1, _results;

user1306322

oh so it's superlanguage over javascript

Logan M

yes

user1306322

Pantsu!

Sakurai Tomoki

@AsadaShino Okaerinasai, Ojou-sama!

Logan M

08:53

Feature request: we should be able to battle against Karasu in WIXOSS, and he should be unbelievably bad.

user1306322

(googles wixoss)

Logan M

don't google it, just watch the show

it's good

has cute girls

and lrigs

user1306322

are the game mechanics interesting?

Logan M

no idea

I watch for the girls. I don't actually know the rules

user1306322

you didn't pay attention?

">.>

Logan M

08:56

I payed attention to how cute they were

user1306322

7.47/10

maybe when I'm out of everything else

Logan M

where are you looking at that score?

user1306322

mal

Logan M

mal confirmed for terrible taste

user1306322

myanimelist.net/anime/22273/Selector_Infected_WIXOSS

we don't have a mal onebox yet??

Logan M

08:57

I don't think we ever did

user1306322

anime-planet.com/anime/selector-infected-wixoss

I remember we had some onebox

Logan M

Prix was gonna get in contact with some guys at Crave to see if they could update their api, but I'm not sure they did

we had anidb and vndb at one point

user1306322

waaah

Logan M

:/

user1306322

chat froze for a few seconds there :D

guess it's not working quite well

Logan M

09:00

at least it works

last I checked vndb doesn't work any more

vndb.org/v2002

doesn't seem to work

Karasu

Logan M

Worth pointing out though that WIXOSS is directed by the same guy who directed Steins;Gate, and is comparably good. But MAL hates it for two reasons: 1) cute girls, and 2) card games, so they underrate it by a ton.

Sakurai Tomoki

@Well, they can complain about the card games, but not the cute girls part.

Logan M

If they were burly men fighting with axes, it would be like 9.8/10 even if nothing else changed.

Sakurai Tomoki

Wonder how they score card games with burly men playing it...

Karasu

09:11

> Only write what hasn't been written yet.

Logan M

Generally speaking, the only case in which I trust MAL ratings is to compare somewhat similar series which aired around the same time. MAL gets right that WIXOSS is significantly better than Z/X Ignition, Fantasista Doll, and Yugioh Arc-V. That's about all I trust it to tell me.

user1306322

I don't even know what the others are

any of those, in fact

Logan M

Likewise, MAL gets right that NGNL is better than Log Horizon, which is better than SAO. But if you look by absolute scores, you'd think SAO is quite a bit better than WIXOSS. In reality, SAO is horrible, but gets lots of votes because MAL fans are suckers for anything MMO or game-related for unknown reasons. WIXOSS is easily one of the best in it's genre, and by any reasonable measure is far better than SAO.

user1306322

I only know that Yugioh is a guy with huge yellow and black hairdo :p

this is why anime rating sites need score within genres

not just overall

not enough stats

Logan M

no, we just need to not rely on crowd-sourced stats. Because the majority of the crowd is stupid.

Sakurai Tomoki

09:19

SAO was quite good, but indeed went south after it enters the ALO arc.

Logan M

Which is to say that it was bad for most of the time.

mirroroftruth

let it go, rating does not bother me anymore

user1306322

@LoganM there just needs to be a better rating system that allows for biased ratings to be accounted for manually, not automatically

Sakurai Tomoki

Well, SAO II is about GGO

user1306322

when you know that objectively a title is 7.5 but you give it 9 because you really like it, just say so and it's gonna be fine for everybody else who doesn't care much for the genre

Logan M

09:20

@user1306322 I disagree. You can correct for minor inaccuracies with that sort of thing. You can't correct for a majority of people just being wrong.

Sakurai Tomoki

I say GGO is ok. Nowhere near the original SAO, but definitely better than ALO.

user1306322

@LoganM another option is to follow the ratings of select users who you know rate most things objectively, or at least most genres except a few (which you can exclude for their rating)

it's more complicated, but it's the only way to get a precise rating

Logan M

You don't need a precise rating.

user1306322

and if you really want to get your ratings precise, you will bother setting it all up

Logan M

You need one of three categories: good, meh, bad.

user1306322

09:22

or that

Logan M

Or alternatively, watch, maybe, don't.

user1306322

I have some rating systems in my sketchbok, and the basic rule is not focusing on negative score gradations as much as positive

Logan M

Making it on a 10 point scale is silly. A good rating system would give you 3 options per show, and match you with people with similar tastes to suggest more.

user1306322

3 is easy and will work for most users

more thorough users would want to use a more precise rating

Logan M

Actually getting it right is complicated. Netflix hires multiple PhD mathematicians to try to optimize their recommendations, and pays them pretty nicely.

Giving people more than 3 options is a slippery slope of bad. Sure, users want to be able to rate things more finely, but empirical data suggests they're increasingly inconsistent when given more options.

user1306322

09:26

my sketchbook has 4 options at the very least, 7 and 9 at most

Logan M

If you ask people to rate something on a scale of 0-2, they are fairly consistent, but on a scale of 1-10, it's quite common that they'll give quite different ratings just based on their mood on the particular day.

user1306322

4 doesn't have a neutral option, just slightly and strongly bad/good >.<

7 and 9 have neutral, but these aren't for common users

Logan M

I forget where I read this but it was some psychological effect which is quite reproduceable, and was a major reason cited for using rubrics while grading.

Sakurai Tomoki

what about 5? Very bad, bad, ok, good, very good?

Logan M

5 could be okay. I would never trust anything with more than 5.

user1306322

09:28

@SakuraiTomoki if we're going for precision, 5 is not enough already

Logan M

@user1306322 no, 5 is already too much imo.

user1306322

@LoganM for norlam users

norlam т_т

Logan M

The only reason I'd go more than 3 choices is to appease angry users who don't understand how bad they are at using more than 3 choices.

But the more you add, the worse they get. So don't add too much.

Sakurai Tomoki

With ten define how a show is to be score 0, 1, 2 and so on till 10?

10 is perfect

Near perfect?

9?

Logan M

Ideally, I'd only have 2 options, good/bad, but I know people will moan that they don't have a meh option.

user1306322

09:31

I think 7 is enough

Sakurai Tomoki

The further its is from 10 and 5 the harder to define. Same with scores between 0 and 5

Logan M

With 10 points, the only way you can possibly do it is with a rubric. And unless you think the average MAL user is grading shows with a checklist next to their screen, you're just making your data worse.

Sakurai Tomoki

The harder it is to define, the harder it is for the user to give a correct score

Logan M

The majority of academic surveys use 2 or 3 options, which is good practice. Some use 5 when it's important to be able to get finer data on the tails, but I've never seen one that seemed credible with more than 5.

Sakurai Tomoki

@LoganM exactly why I said 5.

Logan M

09:33

That's about what you want. Psychology repeatedly confirms that more than that is just bad practice.

Even with 5, it depends on how you represent them.

Sakurai Tomoki

During my university days, we have a system where we score the lecturers performance during the whole semester.

user1306322

check this:

Sakurai Tomoki

It was graded from 1 to 7

user1306322

− Some of the best, must watch
− Very good
− Good
− Somewhat good

− Neutral

− Bad, but watchable
− Very bad, don't watch

Logan M

If you do it as smiley faces, it could be okay. But if you use stars, you'll see the average score will be in the 3.5-4 stars range, which is just stupid.

@user1306322 you don't need 3 good categories.

user1306322

09:34

there's 4 :p

and yes you do

Logan M

no, you absolutely don't

That will get you MAL-class ratings.

user1306322

there's lots of god stuff but you want the very best and this help find exactly what you want

Logan M

might as well ask for anime recommendations on chat roulette.

Sakurai Tomoki

and we just score it depends on our mood

too many questions and too many options.

user1306322

@SakuraiTomoki then you include your mood to the rating

Logan M

09:36

Here is the absolute best rating system if the things that are rating it are humans:

- Good
- Meh
- Bad

user1306322

Great mood (+2 to rating)

which means 9/10 = 7/10 :p

Sakurai Tomoki

No, my point is, too many options also cause the user to score it based on mood.

Make it lesser, more general so that they are less biased by their mood

user1306322

I wonder if we could compare the same scores on a 10 point scale to 3 point scale from the same people…

Sakurai Tomoki

5 at most is quite clear. VG, G, O, B, VB

user1306322

maybe let's do an experiment?

Logan M

09:38

why do an experiment when the psychologists have already done it before many times?

just go look up the literature on surveys

user1306322

say we each rate 100 most popular titles and see how different the results will be

well I don't trust some random psychologists on the internet :p

I trust users who watch anime and use StackExchange

Logan M

That's why you look up published psychology journal articles, not random internet websites.

user1306322

any suitable links?

I'd still like to see how that research conclusion correlates to our own results

Logan M

scholar.google.com

Karasu

Logan M

09:42

@Karasu I'm getting a 503

okay now it's working

mirroroftruth

10:09

#tomato

Karasu

JNat

#potato

Karasu

user1306322

mmmm

mneh >:\

hey gurl your swimsuit is a bit torn

(I think she knows)

mirroroftruth

she came direct from war

user1306322

10:11

in a swimsuit?

mirroroftruth

yes look behind her

user1306322

torpedoes?

mirroroftruth

yes submarine war

Logan M

!!wiki I-58 Japanese submarine

HoiHoi-san

@LoganM No result found

Logan M

10:13

:/

JNat

lol

Logan M

Japanese submarine I-58 (1943)

I-58 was a Japanese B3 type cruiser submarine that served in the final year of World War II. Modified to carry Kaiten manned torpedoes, she damaged two enemy destroyers with them, but her most significant success was the USS Indianapolis, sunk with conventional torpedoes on 30 July 1945. The submarine surrendered in September 1945, and was later scuttled by the United States Navy. == Service history == The submarine was laid down on 26 December 1942 at the Yokosuka Naval Arsenal, and launched on 30 June 1943. During construction her 14 cm/40 11th Year Type naval gun was removed, making room for...

HoiHoi-san is bad at searching apparently.

mirroroftruth

her history

i thought that no as 158

user1306322

11:01

I'm trying to follow the redirects from a page but firebug clears the whole request history up until the last page even though I click the persist button

it even unpresses the button for me!

what is this webdevelopment

Logan M

What are you trying to follow through to?

user1306322

some authentication procedure for work

it's not working as intended, but hell knows how it was intended to work in the first place

I'm trying to figure out how it does work now, but it's kinda hard :/

mirroroftruth

@user1306322 that is programming :D

user1306322

we're trying to figure out how PHP works by tracing page redirects

so it's half-programing

mirroroftruth

half or full , it is programming

Logan M

11:06

can you program an alpaca from scratch?

user1306322

not right now

mirroroftruth

alpaca

user1306322

I don't get a full redirect log

ugh…

Sakurai Tomoki

11:24

debugging is always sucha pain. lol

Btw...

What's with Uchiha Madara's prof pic?

Madara Uchiha

@SakuraiTomoki I am the most evil ninja of them all.

Sakurai Tomoki

@MadaraUchiha I know. But ur prof pic suggests that u're in a slump...

Looking sooo...not evil

mirroroftruth

@SakuraiTomoki then you are already in genjutsu of madara

user1306322

11:51

mmm so good nice and warm netbook keyboard

we have a water heater in this office and hot water runs out pretty fast

the chef lady doesn't spare any

Toshinou Kyouko

12:50

animemaru.com/…

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