Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

1:01 AM

@Peilonrayz yep :P

i mean i only recently started doing reviews again

previously i often did actions from main itself, so i'd often close review tasks without even getting the progress myself, lol

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

dont see anything so i can chat

yippe

Dimitri mx

Well, soon I will be leaving more for others to pick up ;p

Starting a new job in June, and with their strict site visiting policies. I'll be lurking around less.

hyper-neutrino

ah :/

Dimitri mx

Still wonder how they plan to keep track. Considering I'm free to use any browser/configuration/vpns etc.

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

oh

hyper-neutrino

1:03 AM

my all-time reviews on the 6 queues are 35, 30, 6, 23, 19, and 31. i'd blame it on our site having not many review tasks but one of my fellow mods has 916, 1240, 447, 1097, 745, and 760...

and i've been around for longer than him despite him having higher rep and being more experienced

granted i also joined when i was like 14 and lurked for well over a year

Dimitri mx

I've been around for about 8 years now. And I can't say my review stats are that spectactular ;p

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

i really don't know what i'm like as for reveiwing

sometimes im like oh i know about that, sometimes im like not interested in that tag or

ehhh i'll let the mods handle it

thats really all i do

Dimitri mx

The queues are there for the users to handle, preferably. Mods are more often meant as an escalation path.

hyper-neutrino

my activity's always been inconsistent and i usually am more active in chat, posting challenges, answering, etc, not really with review

even as a mod i usually would handle flags or look through stuff in main, i kinda forgot review tasks were even really a thing

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

same, hyper

minus posting challenges

forest

1:07 AM

@hyper-neutrino I mean, she did do a huge amount of damage.

Dimitri mx

@hyper-neutrino Same, it's also one of the statements I made in the mod questions. "wanting to be more available for the community through chat services"

Which is not limited to on-site chat thou.

hyper-neutrino

@forest well, i can't say i'm too familiar with exactly the details of what happened. i know approximately the overall stuff but idk who was responsible, or w/e like that

forest

It's not like she's the only one responsible, of course.

But she did tremendous harm by attacking the community and accusing us of "causing panic attacks".

ᴅᴀɴɪᴇʟッ

huh

what

Peilonrayz

@hyper-neutrino lol I have like 10-500, where the other mods have 1000+ (most queues). two have ~3500 close votes alone... But moderating is more than reviews

hyper-neutrino

1:10 AM

oh. .-. i must've forgotten about that specifically... :/

@Dimitrimx like the questionnaire?

Dimitri mx

@hyper-neutrino ah yes, that was the name of it

hyper-neutrino

ah. yeah, being available in chat is something i've also not been overly consistent with. but i'm usually there and can be pinged for anything

one of my fellow mods hasn't been in chat for like 200+ days iirc

Dimitri mx

Yeah, we had a similar case here back then. At which point the chat used to be more active as well.

But after some 'drama' regarding posted images, and the whole '19 thing. A lot of people left the chat.

forest

Drama regarding posted images? Did someone hate yuri?

Dimitri mx

@forest That's roughly what it came down to yes.

forest

1:14 AM

What was the result? Just yuri-haters leaving?

Dimitri mx

I believe the first time it happend was a random user that joined the room. Scrolled back around 2 years. found an image where I believe panties where showing.

forest

Panties showing? Oh the humanity!

Dimitri mx

I've had quite the chats about it with other mods.

forest

I'm actually a little surprised someone didn't complain on Twitter and gotten this room shut down because of being non-inclusive or some other dumb shit.

It seems like it'd be so easy for someone to do. "Zomg these people are fetishizing lesbianism!!!!1"

Dimitri mx

@forest oh no, that kind of stuff happened as well.

forest

1:17 AM

Well we still post yuri.

Dimitri mx

But a large amount of the active participants left, both chat and the site itself.

In part due to those conflicts.

forest

When was this?

Dimitri mx

I believe we had some in '18 & '19. And some before I actively participated.

forest

ah

I hope that's not what happened to Hakase.

Because looking through flags, there was a lot more yuri back in the day.

Dimitri mx

Well, it's why we keep questions such as these away from hot: anime.stackexchange.com/questions/52772/…

It's questions like those that grab attention, lead to people joining chat, and scrolling through the full history for some reason.

forest

1:21 AM

huh

Well everyone seems to misunderstand yuri.

Dimitri mx

^ to quote myself

forest

Why didn't you just kick them from chat?

hyper-neutrino

i think someone complained about our site getting a question with "brainfuck" in the title on HNQ once, lol. like..... seriously?

Dimitri mx

@forest To quote myself again :p

forest

@hyper-neutrino I remember that...

hyper-neutrino

1:24 AM

since i absolutely do not care, i put a question with a featured brainfuck answer into the tour :p

forest

hahahahaha

hyper-neutrino

another mod in TL actually did mention this, and i thought for a bit but decided

if someone would get offended by that, best they turn away after seeing the tour

rather than after participating and then seeing that and complaining on meta or smth

forest

Is TL as horrible as they say?

Dimitri mx

@forest I personally dislike TL yes.

hyper-neutrino

i find it... mostly fine. no real opinion, i guess

@Dimitrimx too lazy to check elections sorry; when did you become a mod?

were you in TL during the '19 incident

forest

1:29 AM

Were you there for the whole Monica debacle?

Dimitri mx

@hyper-neutrino 2017

hyper-neutrino

ah

i only started in late 2020 so. wasn't there to first-hand see what happened in the TL

Dimitri mx

So yeah, all though I am more of a TL lurker than active participant.

hyper-neutrino

my experience there has been pretty normal so far.

Dimitri mx

Given the image drama above, it was almost as-if being personally attacked.

And no matter the words I spoke. Everyone involved was guilty as charged.

forest

1:32 AM

wow

Dimitri mx

^ got to this point at the time.

forest

That's a thumbnail.

I can't read any of it.

Dimitri mx

As intended ;')
It's a mail sent in private, and I do tend to keep it that way.
It's shared with the mods of A&M thou.

hyper-neutrino

ah :/

forest

Ah well, with a little effort it can be recovered.

hyper-neutrino

1:35 AM

i've only been here for 8 months. hope i don't run into any incidents like that as a mod. but i wouldn't be surprised...

Dimitri mx

Lemi see if i have a version that does not mention particular names.

I actually do ^^. I wouldn't mind sharing that version on something outside of this chat.

forest

Put it on zerobin.net

Dimitri mx

@forest zerobin.net/?4bad4294c1c24d7b#Zh7rF0wJWFD684/…

@hyper-neutrino if intrested as well

forest

reading

Did you get any reply?

Dimitri mx

On this particular one, no.

hyper-neutrino

1:41 AM

oh. :/

forest

I imagine they just ignored it?

Dimitri mx

Not sure, SE is not known for their speed.
non the less, damage is done, and I prefer to let the sleeping dogs lay for the time being.

But if a similar scenario does pop up again, I will most certainly be referring to it.

Luckely so far it has not been the case though. I'm happy with that.

forest

Funny that SE allows people on Islam.SE to support gay conversion therapy and answers that suggest that homosexuals are "abnormal" and "evil", but anime is too controversial.

Dimitri mx

Agreed.

It's the reason I became quite passionate about the topic, to the point of writing that.

hyper-neutrino

yeah, i agree. i understand cultural difference and stuff but i'd apply that more to moderate differences between like western and asian/japanese ideas of what's normal versus straight up allowing harmful/hurtful/hateful content

forest

1:50 AM

Funny thing is, I brought up the whole Islam.SE thing about two years ago and got suspended in chat for doing that. But then someone else posts a big question on MSE and it's too visible to be silenced.

@hyper-neutrino The problem is that people think that harmless content is harmful.

They hear words like "loli" and think explicit pornography.

Or "hentai" and think rape.

hyper-neutrino

agreed.

Dimitri mx

we also have seen against images of a girl kissing another girl on the cheek, and even images of characters hand-holding.

Memor-X

*flame aura activates*

forest

Hand-holding, so explicit.

hyper-neutrino

that should be like illegal or something :o

Memor-X

1:53 AM

hyper-neutrino

hand-holding? what's next, premarital eye contact???

Memor-X

or whatever you call the aura

Dimitri mx

I think most of the chat log of around the time can be found by searching for lewd handholding.

hyper-neutrino

i meme about that all the time.

can't believe people would unironically find that lewd

forest

It's a catch-22. If you support it, you're homophobic for fetishizing homosexuals. If you oppose it, you're homophobic for attacking homosexuals.

Memor-X

1:55 AM

i think it's because people see the word lewd and automatically think it's bad without taking in context

hyper-neutrino

that too. tbf i'm not the best person to be a reasonable judge cuz i don't care about seeing nsfw stuff at all so.. fortunately on SE i haven't really had to handle that in my mod position because i wouldn't know if i'd be too relaxed on it or enforcing rules too harshly. since i think being a 13+ site there are some expectations

@forest oh yeah, i always have trouble with that (like internally i mean). cuz like, being a straight (probably) male and all, saying i like seeing yuri seems... offensive in some way or another. yet i'm not homophobic either so.

i just avoid making remarks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dimitri mx

@hyper-neutrino It's why we defined those expectations anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2659/…

hyper-neutrino

ah. nice

forest

I mean, there's a pretty obvious difference between hardcore lolicon rape hentai and two girls holding hands in a platonic way, but some people can't tell the difference.

Likewise people often can't tell the difference between "sexual" and "cute.

hyper-neutrino

the one time was when we were playing codenames and someone brought up something nsfw, which i ended up censoring out of chat because it really wasn't necessary or positive in any way and one user in the room was extremely uncomfortable around any sort of discussion like that

also like since when was kissing someone (or even just on the cheek) sexual...

forest

1:59 AM

I've had someone refer to my Miu avatar as sexual.

It's bizarre.

Dimitri mx

Well, there's a whole culture that considers the exposure of ankles too arousing.

hyper-neutrino

pardon??

Memor-X

@hyper-neutrino could come from your being a westerner where Yuri has been the NSFW kind when in japan Yuri is all of it

hyper-neutrino

@Memor-X true

tbh i don't tend to consider whether a thing is nsfw (in terms of when i see it - stuff i send on SE is almost always obviously sfw without question).

Memor-X

@hyper-neutrino well when i said NSFW i meant the purpose made hentai

hyper-neutrino

2:02 AM

right (figured you meant that, anyway)

Memor-X

speaking of yuri

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^ twitter.com/dee0333/status/1235283870448324608/photo/1

3

^ twitter.com/_ZhuoTian/status/1392322399467569161/photo/1

3

^ twitter.com/MISSILE228apl/status/1392505015453904897/photo/1

hyper-neutrino

i'm glad i have this starboard userscript

Memor-X

every time you come here your CPU just runs hot from the internal AI blushing at looking at the yuri data going through

forest

:3

hyper-neutrino

hm. i should edit a blushing effect onto a picture of a cpu

or someone who knows how to do anything to do with images should

Memor-X

2:12 AM

could proably just get one of these and layer it ontop - google.com/…

hyper-neutrino

prob could yeah

Memor-X

oh wait, that's not actually transparent

god dam it why do people do that. total dick move

forest

Yeah that's a JPEG, which doesn't support alpha channel.

Memor-X

@forest i thought JPEG did

forest

No, PNG does though.

Memor-X

2:16 AM

in which case use a white background, not the transparency checkers board

forest

Yeah, alpha channel usually becomes white.

But that depends on the program.

Memor-X

quite sure there's an AI that can readd transparency when it's just a solid color

forest

Doesn't need to be AI.

GraphicsMagick could probably do it.

Memor-X

@forest never heard of it. just looking it up now

forest

It's a library/tool for image editing, like ImageMagick.

SPArcheon

8:30 AM

Once upon a time, a [censored] had the idea to post a message in a chat room that called MLP fans "mentally ill people", with some offensive meme picture too.
People in the chat apparently didn't flag the thing since "why should I care".
Flagged two times, nothing was done (I assume it is still there in the backlog... With a long enough backlog you can skip everything).
Sent a mail (or was that two?) via the "Contact us" button. Ignored.
Created a scandal in the Tavern room by waiting for a lot of people to be there and bringing the thing up to ride the "indignation effect". Gone in 2 seconds.

Apparently, PR damage is a big driver for moderation....

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SPArcheon

9:58 AM

@hyper-neutrino genshin.mihoyo.com/en/news/detail/12717

Andrew T.

should I shout, "SNAAAAAAAKE!"?

SPArcheon

10:19 AM

@AndrewT. I get what you are referencing but not the reason behind that.

Andrew T.

well, I see a moving box and an exclamation mark :x

SPArcheon

> But you are also a brave person, are you not? One who does not concede to the views of the world. You'd make a good match for this pair of wings for sure.
—So saying, she places a completely unique wind glider in your hands.
"Of course it can fly, and of course it will carry you. But you must first believe in it — and believe in the you that believes in it."

Description of a glider in the game.

Considering that they keep adding small references, I guess the box (!) you noticed was also made on purpose.

Didn't notice it myself.

Memor-X

10:41 AM

@AndrewT. ba ba ba da da, da da da!

Metal Gear Solid 4 Meeting the Gekko for the first time 720p HD

►

SPArcheon

11:31 AM

@Memor-X If anything that demonstrates that if I wanted to play stealth mission I would be playing another game and not a JRPG.

@hyper-neutrino AND HERE WE GO AGAIN....

Remember the old contest someone won by stealing someone else art and submitting a traced picture of Albedo?

Seems this could be happening again.

reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/nbe9ek/…

not only the infographics, the Noelle picture seems to be taken from pixiv and watermarked with their logo.

SPArcheon

12:11 PM

@fores this is precious : a guy got an in-game mail that told him his account was at risk. Someone suggested that maybe the company detected that "his password was weak"

And then more agreed on that theory.

Later, finally someone who actually understood anything about security came:

> If they can detect password strength after it has been stored they'd be storing their passwords wrong... lol

hyper-neutrino

1:42 PM

@SPArcheon well that's sus

............

@SPArcheon oh i've seen that wallpaper (well, that art as a wallpaper) all over the place

man ppl stealing others' work for contests is just the worst

SPArcheon

1:56 PM

@hyper-neutrino YEP! another thief!

twitter.com/WorldOfTeyvat/status/1392815772175675392

> Soo one of the Bronze Winner of the latest official Guides contest stole some of my work and claimed it as their own...

Assuming they stole my Guides they probably stole other people's work too, in order to win the Contest...

hyper-neutrino

:/

SPArcheon

2:15 PM

@hyper-neutrino quite a stupid move. Trying to steal other work after someone did the same on a very recent contest.

hyper-neutrino

lol yeah.. also i've seen these guides floating around all over the place like you'd think they'd steal something a bit less well known cuz i've seen those guides everywhere

SPArcheon

like I said, quite a stupid move.

hyper-neutrino

yep. well it's good (like for the community i mean) that they're stupid. i suppose. :p

SPArcheon

3:21 PM

@hyper-neutrino Seems we will get no answer. But at least 3 users think that asking how a game works is about gaming design.

Also known as #readTheFullQuestionBeforeVoting

hyper-neutrino

wait who said this is about game design lol

anyway good question, i don't plan to use ps anytime but i'm curious as to how it works

SPArcheon

@hyper-neutrino three closing votes.

hyper-neutrino

oh wait i'm stupid

i forgot i can't see those

i didn't notice the Close (3) so i was confused :P

SPArcheon

hyper-neutrino

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i could see it going either way but this isn't really a question about designing a game, like it's solely about how a game integrates into a platform which is neither the design of the game itself or even development, really. it's not like you're asking how one would code <whatever thing> for a game like GI

SPArcheon

3:42 PM

@hyper-neutrino nor I asked WHY they programmed it that way.

hyper-neutrino

yeah

SPArcheon

I just asked HOW the thing actually works since videogame manuals died out about... in the N64 era.

hyper-neutrino

I initially said "i could see it going either way" but i changed my mind. i don't personally think this makes nearly as much sense there lol

SPArcheon

For example, I discovered only by personal experience that blocking someone in Dreams === blocking them in the PSN

But Dreams is a PS esclusive, so it is built from the ground up to integrate with Sony.

Genshin is mostly a pc game ported to Playstation.

I wouldn't be surprised if Genshin friends aren't PSN friends.

But there is no documentation I think

hyper-neutrino

oh wack.

yeah i'd be a bit surprised if genshin integrated the friends system with PSN. not overly surprised, but it'd make total sense to be its own network/system

are PS and PC accounts separate? i know PC and mobile can be interchanged with the same acc, but what about PS

SPArcheon

3:53 PM

Playstation I know is separate with no way to crossplay on other consoles.

Therefore I suspect that actually PS accounts are Genshin accounts that use PSN as an OAUTH provider.

hyper-neutrino

oh, okay.

SPArcheon

Basically, same thing that log-in to Stack with your Google account

hyper-neutrino

that would make sense

SPArcheon

4:06 PM

So, I assume that the friend management is still totally private to Genshin Impact even on the Playstation

But, it would be nice if someone actually confirmed that

hyper-neutrino

yeah. unfortunately don't know anyone who plays on PS that could check lol

SPArcheon

@hyper-neutrino It is a race between a ps player to see the question, and someone else to join the party of people who don't read questions and votes randomly to close stuff

hyper-neutrino

pretty much

still at 3 to close or has it gone up?

SPArcheon

still 3

hyper-neutrino

okay

SPArcheon

4:10 PM

btw unrelated since it came up in another room

in The Bridge, 6 mins ago, by SPArcheon

Animal Crossing Movie - Trailer 3

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Yes, the thing had a movie and no, it was never localized.

Peilonrayz

@hyper-neutrino The CV review has completed as leave open, so probably will stay open

hyper-neutrino

ah nice

TIL that you can view the result of a review task even without having access to that review queue

SPArcheon

It is clear that the one on the left is @forest, but who is the cat then?

Peilonrayz

@hyper-neutrino Yeah TIL too and is a bit strange. I remember when the timeline page was hidden... Such a useful page imo

hyper-neutrino

wait that's public too? lol

Peilonrayz

4:17 PM

Yeah public even if you don't have an account. Makes hiding the close votes from the public a bit... odd

hyper-neutrino

that is interesting

Sakamoto

4:58 PM

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Q: How come Neiru hasn't revived her sister yet?

In Wonder Egg Priority, when Neiru is first introduced, it's established that she started buying Wonder Eggs long before Ai, and often buys several at a time. Despite this significant head-start, Ai manages to revive Koito before Neiru is able to revive her sister. In fact, as of the end of Episo...

wonder-egg-priority

SPArcheon

5:27 PM

@hyper-neutrino new idea for the surveys. Start asking for alternate endings for the commissions. Like... who wants to keep Nimrod wife busy so that he can get drunk... add the option to snitch on him (possibly on Diona who will ensure he gets enough ice in the drink....)

hyper-neutrino

that would be fun

Sakamoto

8:35 PM

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Q: Naming system in Naruto

Naruto 's naming system always confuses me . Naruto is named Uzumaki , after his mother . But Boruto is named Uzumaki , after his father . So whose surname is taken while naming a child in Narutoverse ? Are there some governing factors ?

naruto boruto uzumaki

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