More generally, water has a potential for a tragedy of the commons situation. If people don't pay for water, and your tax costs are only distantly related to your water usage, then people are more likely to waste it for all sorts of things, because it doesn't really impact them negatively.

Also, if you read down that thread, someone says that it's talking about how water pricing doesn't cover the costs of maintaining and upgrading infrastructure.

In other words, as I interpret that, the problem is that water prices don't correspond as well as they could to the true overall cost of delivering that water

Though, one simple solution would be to have those maintenance and upgrade costs be a part of the municipal budget, because they are less dependent on the specific amount of water being used.

Yeah tying the improvement budget to one's water bill feels inherently regressive in some small way, whereas tying it to a property tax levy or otherwise is decent, some price for usage prevents people from just watering their lawn all day all July

The first sentence is still some weird clickbait because it's neither a problem nor does it introduce the promoted talk

Do I want to find out what Jared or Jefferson's ideas on prison reform are

(it turns out Jared's ideas are good)

twitter has officially descended into people utilizing all 280 characters to repeat #SchumerShutdown or #TrumpShutdown over and over again

is this to see which one stays on trending the longest or something

if so they know they only have to use it once right

@Unionhawk Gotta get the changes in before he ends up there

take a shot every time someone replies to that tweet getting angry about him saying "yikes"

I get it, but oh boy. Staying far away from the big t'do that's going to become >_>

I love that this started with a BuzzFeed guy extrapolating shit from goddamn Cassandra Fairbanks

Like yeah reliable source, idiot

I'm mad online and I need to finish this months reading

Polling on Trump's perceived mental health/prowess too, along with policies

Takeaway is that Obamacare still viewed favourably, tax bill unfavourably

@TimStone but trump says his approval is the best of all presidents. This must be fake news.

Yeah, usually I would say don't worry about it but since President McDeals is just aimlessly flailing I'm really not sure how long things will be shutdown :/

Is anyone tired of all the winning yet?

Exhausted

@Ash background checks sound like they might be considered essential

@TimStone yeah I believe his negotiating position is "I'm not going to do shutdown negotiations" so

We could be here a while

They don't need Trump, only the House and the Senate

@MadScientist except trump needs to sign the eventual thing

and if the last person to talk to him tells him not to sign, then...

@GodEmperorDune not if they have enough votes

so a true bipartisan agreement would be veto-proof

@MadScientist i highly doubt we're going to get a veto proof majority on this

We are at a pretty big impasse yeah

It's not impossible, but

We're sitting here at "take it or leave it" legislation that got +5 -4 when it needed +9

Trump mostly reacts to media reports, it'll be interesting how this develops in this case. And he'll probably get seriously frustrated if he can't leave for Mar a Lago next weekend

@MadScientist he's already pissed he missed mar a lago this weekend

What makes me mad about this shit is they're all like "we got weeks to do this shit" meanwhile CHIP is already out of money in several states which they should have done a fucking month ago, and people are already losing deferred action status now

Love to hire the best people

C'mon Lindsey, f him up