The Awkward Silence

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Sarov

01:15

Hmm. Yeah, seems a reasonable stance to take.

6 hours later…

Extroverted Main Man

07:35

Q: In group discussions, how should I deal with a person who frequently participates in the discussion with incoherent comments?

Context: I'm a student who is in a philosophical discussion group which meets weekly and discusses readings and thoughts about a particular topic. It's hosted by an organization so I don't have control over who is in my group. The group has 4 people and a facilitator, who is also a student. We ha...

Tinkeringbell

08:15

morning!

Arthur Hv

08:30

mornin

Alex Robinson

08:50

i woke up this morning with a sore throat but its not covid so i still have to go into work :/

Tinkeringbell

Well it's kinda nice it's not covid at least!

Alex Robinson

true, i do like having a sense of taste

Tinkeringbell

I like my brain functioning ... The sense of taste is probably not bad for me to lose for a while ;)

Alex Robinson

09:28

brain function is ideal but i'm pretty sure i can do my job and play league without one xd

Tinkeringbell

XD Well of all covid symptoms, the brain fog is one I never ever want to encounter. ;) My hobbies do require some brain function: cross-stitch and crochet requires keeping count of the pattern, reading requires parsing the letters on paper, gaming requires a bit of tactics XD

Alex Robinson

i mean yeah, it really would suck to have brain fog. Though i'd rather make light of the situation than actually think about it

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, thinking about it too much also isn't good for the brain, that's true.

Arthur Hv

Idk if i couldn't live happier with a selective lobotomy

Perhaps there are regions responsible for anxiety and overthinking. They can live without me

Alex Robinson

anxiety is an evolutionary advantage unfortunately. being concerned about a potential tiger about to eat you generally keeps you alive

and did you know that teens who suffer from anxiety are hospitalised (for any reason) at only a third of the average for their age group. typically because they're less likely to do silly things

Tinkeringbell

09:43

@AlexRobinson Yeah but for some people their anxiety means they're afraid of meeting said tiger on the south pole :P

Alex Robinson

an unfortunate elimination of "survival of the very fittest" means undesirable mutations are here to stay :/

Tinkeringbell

Ah.... but I guess society is overcorrecting for that now then. Which is good news! All Arthur needs to do is reincarnate in say... 2000 years? :P No lobotomies needed ;)

Arthur Hv

Anxiety pushed me to higher level studies and to some degree of achievement. Still, I don't mean to live longer or have evolutionary benefits. My question was do you live happier

At the risk of perhaps being hit by a bus because you didń t check before crossing a road idk

Tinkeringbell

@ArthurHv Depends on your definition of happy, I guess. If you could be happy with being blissfully unaware of everything...

Like I said, I like my brain. Even when it sometimes confronts me with stuff, I value the ability to think about said stuff and not just be blissfully unaware of it.

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Tinkeringbell

12:36

Blegh. Did I already mention I hate my new neighbors XD

1 hour later…

Sarov

13:47

@Tinkeringbell "cross-stitch and crochet requires keeping count of the pattern" - keep count by which tooth your tongue is touching instead!

Tinkeringbell

What kind of maniac does that?! XD

Sarov

@AlexRobinson TBF undesirable mutations were always here to stay. Evolution doesn't look for 'best', it looks for 'good enough'.

@Tinkeringbell A brain-fogged one! :D

(Morning.)

Tinkeringbell

Fair, brain fogged people can't be expected to behave

Sarov

Ha! "Behave"?

I just figured, it'd mean you could keep count without having to mentally keep count!

Tinkeringbell

I don't think it works that way.... I might run out of teeth XD

Sarov

13:54

Make a tally or something for every... how many teeth do humans have, anyway?

Tinkeringbell

don't know, and some humans have more than others

Sarov

Every 20, then.

If you have <20 teeth then I guess you just can't crochet, sorry.

Tinkeringbell

There are stitch counters...

I have one like that, came as a freebie with a yarn order once. It's not my favorite though, because you need to stop doing what you're doing to press the button.

Sarov

14:09

Well sure if'n ya want ta get fancy, with all yer high-fallutin' high-tech gadgets an' all...

Tinkeringbell

(they're more often used to count rows than stitches)

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Sarov

18:56

My coworkers have an irrational fear of regex. As opposed to my irrational like of regex. I'm so tempted to leave this comment:

var commaSeparated = string.Join(", ", ids);
var formatted = Regex.Replace(commaSeparated, "^((?:\\d+, )*\\d+), (\\d+)$", "$1 and $2"); // :D

Tinkeringbell

Regex is... a last resort to me ;) I don't like it much, but that's also because I don't use it much so I always have to look things up and it's a bother and I get it wrong and it's buggy and...

I guess if you're rather good at it, it's a nice thing to show off :P

Sarov

I'm upper-middling, I'd say. Not the best but I can parse out just about any regex, given time.

(The code above turns new int[]{1, 4, 8, 12} into the string "1, 2, 8 and 12")

I always have to look up the (?:) syntax though.

Tinkeringbell

String dontbedifficult = "1, 2, 9 and 12" XD

Sarov

Okay but the array is dynamic! It comes from the database.

I meant it turns it into a comma-separated string, replacing the last comma with an "and".

Tinkeringbell

There must be a way to do that in a loop instead XD

Sarov

19:02

Well sure. But then it wouldn't be using regex!

Tinkeringbell

That's the whole point!

I do everything with loops. It drives my coworker crazy XD

Sarov

Exactly! Using regex its the whole point! Glad we're on the same page. :D

Tinkeringbell

Actually, once I tell him "but this keeps the code readable" he acquiesces.

Sarov

(More seriously, yeah, I could, but then it'd be like 10 lines of code instead of 2.)

Tinkeringbell

There's very little gain in using the methods he suggests, because those often use loops in the background anyways so it's not like there's e.g. a performance gain ;)

Sarov

19:04

Sometimes longer code is more readable than shorter. But generally shorter is faster to read.

Tinkeringbell

I don't mind writing 5 lines instead of 1, if there's no performance loss and the code is clearer.

I like easy code.

And shorter isn't faster to read if you're working in new people every other month XD

Sarov

There's a sliding scale. Anyone who writes:

string myString;
if(myBool)
{
    myString = "A";
}
else
{
    myString = "B";
}

instead of:

var myString = myBool ? "A" : "B";

Is getting metaphorically slapped.

I don't care if you don't understand the ternary operator. Learn it!

Tinkeringbell

Hehehe okay. I must admit, the language I program in doesn't have syntax like that, so it's a bit different. But we do things like:
`x << _if mybool
>> "A"
_else
>> "B"
_endif`

Sarov

But yeah. Sometimes the scale does slide the other way.

Tinkeringbell

ugh I can't format code in chat.

Indent it yourself :P

Sarov

19:08

Haha.

Tinkeringbell

NOT FUNNY!

I'm a mod, I'm supposed to know this stuff XD

Sarov

TOO LATE I ALREADY LAUGHED!

Tinkeringbell

NOOOO I shall never talk to you again tonight.

Sarov

snorts Okay night.

Tinkeringbell

bye! :D

Sarov

19:13

...It occurs to me that instead of basic IDs, I can make those hyperlinks...

Extroverted Main Man

19:29

Q: How can I avoid misunderstanding in this case?

I was dropping off a gift for my friend yesterday. When we talked about where I could meet her, she suggested a place where it's easier for me to find, but I actually know the entrance of the building where she lives, so I said I'm happy to deliver there so it's more convenient for her. After tha...

friends misunderstandings

Sarov

20:25

Sadly I'll have to remove the regex then, though. There's quite a difference between "\\d+" and "<a href='[^']+'>\\d+</a>".

Especially when you factor in greediness... would need to change it to be eager, instead.

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A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

You can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...