I'm not saying that it's impossible for everyone, because some people clearly do make it. However, it seems impossible for me. I've been at step #1 for 20 years: I have two empty hands and no audience/customer database.
All the countless guides and books and videos and advice out there assumes t...
Use a pomme frite.
I have only tried with hot or luke warm pommes frites but see no reason why it should not work with a cold.
You can make them at home or buy them at a shop; then keep them in a small box in a pocket. Make sure the box is tight and does not leak oil though, as pommes frite...
XD
I also love how that keeps talking about a pomme frite instead of a fry :P
@Magisch Oh, that I fully realize. And I readily admit that should I ever really want another job... I'm probably going to use my boobs and LinkedIn to find one quickly.
I'm in general in favor of diversity initiatives when done right, e.g by making education/trials/bootcamps and all that more accessible. More people getting into a profession they're good at and can take joy in is a strictly positive thing
and it's not fair that you have to ask yourself if your career is actually your achievment or a quota in a spreadsheet. People shouldn't put that moral hazard on you, it's in and of itself a kind of discrimination
You just get your own echo chamber complaining about how bad everyone else is, with no outreach to those 'others' and no mingling so there's decreased diversity, not increased.
Yet some people gladly just are the quota. I've seen it a good while ago, when some university I think said they would only hire females from now on, until there was some sort of quota reached...
There were seriously females commenting under that news article that they were glad this was being done because 'that way they could get in'... I'm sorry but you really want to get in based on quota instead of achievements? Or do you have such inflated self-confidence that a little introspective into your actual capabilities is off the table entirely?
@Magisch Yeah, true... it's just everyone else's problem, the people working under her if she isn't the best qualified person for the job, and the people paying more health insurance premiums when her messes have to be cleaned up...
@Magisch True :)
And I'm happy I have a job, I'm happy I'm buying an apartment, and I'll try to convince my manager that putting me in a female only group is not the way to get me to like the company.
What everyone else does is their business ;) Friends can be chosen after all :P
I just hope that in a decade or two, we won't get a wave of something #metoo like...
But then not about sex, but about having to be a certain person to proceed.
It already is yes. And I'm really just waiting for the first case of sueing someone because of a burnout or some other lasting mental health problems because 'they should've recognised I wasn't the right person for the job instead of filling their quota'. Extra sarcasm points if that person can be proved to have had the attitude of 'riding the quota wave to the top'.
turns out reality isn't really all that simple, and correcting bias in a wrong way just opens up the door to more bias. See also: the popularity of the alt right with the youth.
It's frightening just how completly a lot of young men reject the left because they feel (not necessarily are but things like this get a lot of visibility) discriminated against. And where do they go? Right to the reactionaries. looking at 15-20% for the far right party in the next election over here
There's never universally applicable answers. There's always going to be some exception to the rule. We have pretty good immigration rules here... but because some people manage to make their process last a decade or more, and then they have kids here and ...
We get kids that aren't eligible for asylum, but who just disappear for a while. Then, we're worried about the kid's welfare, so we give them asylum anyways... that's not how systems are supposed to work.
People are so, so ready to abuse systems based on goodwill over here :/
@Magisch Yep. I've seen those too. I don't have any numbers but some politicians are just thriving on it.
@Tinkeringbell We got a problem here in that the conversation is basically people arguing strawmans against each other
nobody is really interested in discussing with each other just to easily defeat the most easily defeatable version of the other argument so we're spinning in circles on a lot of issues
@Magisch It's people not wanting to say 'these are our rules, and they work in most cases, we're sorry they didn't work out for you but if we change them to suit you, we don't have rules anymore'.
I keep out of politics for a reason though... it's mostly baked air here anyways.
it's kind of a tragic irony that the only politician I would actually want to run the country is a person who is not a politician and has no interest in running the country
And I mean, there's plenty of problems to solve... but monkey sounds during a soccer match really aren't a matter of state. Racism is already outlawed, this is something law enforcement or the national soccer association can solve.
Doesn't need a political debate.
Get those people working on climate change, redesigning the state welfare pension funds, the big stuff!
No, instead we're putting that off for the sake of political alliances, and discussing monkey noises!
@Tinkeringbell consider that this is not by accident, but by design. Many of the "liberal" and "left" politicians use the rhetoric to gain votes, but very much have to please donors that directly benefit from not adressing e.g income inequality, climate change et al.
@AJ9 not sure. Very little activity in the chatroom or questionaire, haven't really been asked any questions or complained at in the last couple of days
I missed an interesting discussion and I just wanted to say something about it. I had a discussion with a local recruiter for Django Girls, about 5 years ago. He shared me some interesting point of view about positive discrimination.
And he told me that when they tried to do mixed workshops, they were cannibalized by men, and ended up men-dominated. Some of the girls complained about it and it was completely missing the goal.
it is my impression that in addition to other negative side effects that it will disenfranchise quite a few who don't like to be "helped" that way and would rather be compared equally
@ArthurHavlicek For mixed workshops, I might agree on making sure they're actually mixed. You can't really advertise anything as mixed if it's not. But completely segregating yourself into a female only space isn't healthy. You have to work with males, you have to learn to interact with them. Saying there's 20 spots and 10 are for males, 10 for females and then waiting to see who turns up is fine.
That's equal.
Saying there's 20 spots and only females can come, is not.
instead of having a 1<->N sub table, just keep adding to the bitmask because that's totally more maintainable and not a nightmare for the next dev to touch it
@Tinkeringbell In a company you would have to discriminate to reach equality. But anyway. I think my own point of view is a tad more cynical about that.
I invited my friends to an event. It was sort of like a Ted Talk. I bought all of our tickets and they agreed to pay me back. Unfortunately something came up at work and I was unable to attend. I was planning on getting the money for the tickets when I saw them at the event.
One friend hasn't pa...
@M.A.R. I'm just on the verge of being blunt and outright telling her that I've been sending subtle hints she didn't pick up, so would she please stop dumping her crap on me.
I would just politely confirm what she would say, but I'm not you. I've had few people being insecure about the team they're on and thinking I'm a reverse jukebox, and I did that
Then again, I don't talk much, so when I don't talk it's not that noticeable.
With these polarizing issues, people sort themselves into teams. Some bigger fans go so far as being -ist towards the other side, and the way you say it, it sounds like she's super excited about Team Women
@Tinkeringbell I'm not female but I have a colleague which talks to us about his electronics pet projects all the f***ing time although we have in the open space clear zero knowledge or interest in that.
Just to say, if you find the recipe then give it to me pls.
@ArthurHavlicek This is about the same though the personal life = personal life troubles, not pet projects. I will let you know what works, though at this point I think the best route might be to just be a b*tch
@Tinkeringbell One other thing that helps is you choosing the topic of the conversation, by speaking first or whatever chances you get to naturally change the topic.
You show interest in talking to them, so it'd become easier to ask for some alone time
Again, this has worked for me, and I'm a . . . an odd guy in real life, really.
@M.A.R. That's the point though... I don't have that interest! I just want her to do her job, let me do mine...
If I go grab a cup of coffee with someone, she's free to join, but if I ask that coworker what he did on the weekend, we're not going to be talking about her!
She keeps finding moments to just talk at me instead of with me and it's annoying.
@Tinkeringbell well, I just turn to them as politely as I can, and ask for some leave of absence from the mini-meeting. It has worked with guys though.
And there's also that I do share the conversation whenever they have something mildly interesting to say, so when I ask to be left alone, it doesn't come off as hostile. Or at least, that's what their reaction tells me
Also, IRL, I look like an impenetrable wall of wisdom, black hair and beard, black, formal coats, unyielding looks . . . I know it sounds weird but this at least means when I'm not overtly smiling, they take the meaning
It's likely to make it worse. They'd try to find you wherever they can, and one day that you're particularly not in the mood, things will go down pretty fast
What I will say is a bit abstract but if someone craves for attention there is probably no way to refuse that in a way that's not at least to some extent, a bit rude.
Meh. MSE I can walk away from. If I want to do the same here, I'd have to look for another project and while that may be coming, I want it to be for better reasons than just an annoying coworker.
Ælis' answer made me realize that there isn't really anything I can do or say to this coworker that will be a satisfying reply to her, that won't result in me playing the us-vs-them game with her.
The answer by EasyDoesIt seems to have much the same message: Play the game with her, give her wha...
Well I had been getting a bit more distance at the time I wrote that answer. It just seems that now stuff isn't going well for her privately, besides wanting constant reassurance about her job she also wants me to fix her private life.
So yeah. Probably going to escalate this by doing it head on.
So I was recently chatting to someone who I had not seen for sometime and wanted to encourage them to return to a club that I had often seen them at previously. I went out for coffee with them once, where I stated that I was already in a relationship and had a girlfriend.
It is clear that when I...
The way our pipeline is set up, when you merge to master it runs a build which creates and pushes a docker image. When your build finishes it starts an integration test run. We have an agreement that nobody is to deploy (we have a manual deployment that pulls the latest image from docker) until there are no active integration test builds
Usually you just kind of wait for a dead spot to release, but once or twice a day someone will drop an @here in slack and call for a hold on merges until the next release
Use a pomme frite.
I have only tried with hot or luke warm pommes frites but see no reason why it should not work with a cold.
You can make them at home or buy them at a shop; then keep them in a small box in a pocket. Make sure the box is tight and does not leak oil though, as pommes frite...
Ælis' answer made me realize that there isn't really anything I can do or say to this coworker that will be a satisfying reply to her, that won't result in me playing the us-vs-them game with her.
The answer by EasyDoesIt seems to have much the same message: Play the game with her, give her wha...
