The Awkward Silence

Extroverted Main Man

03:36

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Q: How to get friends(s) to confirm for certain if they are attending or not?

I think this is a fairly common situation. When trying to arrange something, some people don't like to commit so they say "maybe". This is a problem, because space may be limited or reservations may need to be made. Here is an example. I would like to go to a concert. I asked a friend who said "...

avazula

06:16

Morning people!

A J

06:39

Afternoon!

dhein

07:03

Hey :)

A J

Hello!

avazula

how's it going today?

dhein

It is monday... ^^

wbu?

avazula

so not that good? :p

I'm fine

dhein

So you are not having monday? :P Well yeah, no... dunno. I think I am fine, too. Just feel like another weekend right away wouldn't be too much to ask for :'D

avazula

07:19

haha

But yeah, a vacation wouldn't hurt

JAD

07:51

good morning

avazula

gninrom doog

still not used to that upside-down ava :p

CaldeiraG

Morning :)

A J

08:07

afternoon

JAD

@avazula I guess I haven't been around much to get used to

dhein

?tuoba taht stahw

avazula

@dhein JAD changed his ava and turned it upside down

Belle

08:30

Morning

A J

23 mins ago, by A J

afternoon

dhein

D: ees I

Belle

lǝʌǝl ʎɯ uo ʇǝפ

Mithical

Not that hard to read, really

dhein

08:47

I like that emoji lǝʌǝl :D
Looks like an quite sarcastic cheering :'D

or an annoyed bird :D

JAD

(￣y▽,￣)╭

A J

¿ǝɹǝɥ ƃuᴉuǝddɐɥ sᴉ ʇɐɥM

dhein

@AJ ╮(ʘᴥʘ)╭

Belle

@JAD That looks like Tink in the spa

Or headscratches maybe

Ælis

09:36

"You don't need a 'valid' reason to say no": instagram.com/p/B8E7l1-AfpK/?igshid=1avg9aexdxffr

Today mood: I don't want to work ><

To be extra precise: I don't want to work on what I'm suppose to work on. It's sooooo boring!

@chump Give me a cat please

@chumpbot Hum. Ok. Can I have an other cat please?

chumpbot

Ælis

That's better

Thanks @AJ for the edit. It was really painful to look at ^^'

A J

yrw

Belle

I made the mistake of clicking that link. My eyes!

A J

09:52

I should have better deleted it rather than editing.

Mithical

→ 1 message moved to Trash

CaldeiraG

@chumpbot well, tired Monday cat?

chumpbot

CaldeiraG

that's right

Belle

10:11

@chumpbot I'd like a weekend cat because I look forward to the weekend

chumpbot

Ælis

Aww, so cute!

Magisch

10:49

@chumpbot can I have a motivational cat

chumpbot

A J

Another parrot in the jungle? :P

Belle

The cactus was a parrot in disguise all along.

A J

@Belle So, kind of a caterpillar turning into a butterfly? ;)

Belle

@AJ I was actually thinking more of a Pokémon

A J

11:03

ohh

Belle

11:14

I'm wearing a dress today. With POCKETS.

:D

Mithical

how many pockets

Belle

A deep one on each side, big enough for my phone :)

Ælis

@Belle Pockets in a dress, so cool! Even more if they are deep! Can they be closed?

dhein

@Ælis PDA?^^

Ælis

11:29

@dhein What's PDA?

Google is saying "Public Display of Affection". I don't think that's what you mean :p

JAD

Personal Digital Assistant

The OG smartphone

Magisch

@Belle bird is the word

Ælis

@JAD Oo How old is this thing?

JAD

2000-2005-ish I think

Ælis

I feel old ><

Magisch

11:41

just fork a new Aelis

JAD

@Magisch That reminds me very much of some Family Guy episodes

Ælis

@Magisch But if the new AElis as all my experience, wouldn't they feel old too?

JAD

btw, my gf found an old picture of a very young snor

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Magisch

@Ælis selectively cut some experiences

Ælis

@JAD I was wondering if a "very young snor" would look like a earthworm. I didn't expected that it kind of would indeed! Snor is so small on this picture!

JAD

11:45

Ælis

xD

JAD

damn, our room looks so clean and organised back then

JAD

13:06

btw, @avazula how was the house you were visiting a while back?

avazula

@JAD It was sold before we even had the time to visit it ... but I found another one and we bought it. We'll move in May! :)

A J

@avazula Good! Congratulationss!!

avazula

Thanks :)

In case you wanna have a look

JAD

@avazula ooooh, that's too bad, and exciting :D

A J

@avazula I am not able to access it.

JAD

13:15

looks nice

avazula

@AJ oh? weird. That's a French second-hand sales website

JAD

french housing ads look pretty limited in terms of the information they provide

so few photos :(

avazula

@JAD really? That's like a lot of pics for a house sale in France!

JAD

hmm, the site for our home had like 30

bellefleurgaarde10.nl

no link?

there we are

but also generally a few alineas of text describing the home :P

Belle

That's quite nice! We're thinking about sturmmakelaars.nl/nl/woning/zierikzee/scheepstimmerdijk-53/…

It's something we can afford, but it needs so much work.

avazula

13:28

@JAD oh, amersfoort, I know that place!

this looks really nice btw

JAD

@Belle that looks like a lot of work yeah :O

makes me wonder what the energylabel is

CaldeiraG

@JAD xD

@avazula Love the place :) looks very bright and open

Congrats!

avazula

@CaldeiraG yea, I'm so happy :D

I feel more secure to have a place of my own and a garden where to grow crops

Belle

@avazula I really love it. Can I move in with you? I promise you won't notice me much.

avazula

I'm close to water bodies too, so I'm pretty much safe if something happens.

@Belle I don't think you would either, we have five bedrooms! Come on in :D

CaldeiraG

13:36

:D

Rory Alsop

avazula

CAT!

Rory Alsop

if we're posting cat pics, here's my lovely old cat - she's 18-19 yrs old. Gimpy elbox but still runs around like a kitten

JAD

@avazula thanks :)

Tinkeringbell

@RoryAlsop She's lovely :)

The only cat I know scares all the birds from our garden :/

Rory Alsop

13:41

@Tinkeringbell SHe still tries to hunt in the summer, but she's now old enough she rarely goes out in winter. Just sleeps on my son's bed :-)

Belle

Did the maximum mortgage go down this year?

JAD

hmm

not sure

Magisch

@RoryAlsop thats a very majestic cat

Rory Alsop

@Magisch she's a big floof. When wet, she is very skinny :-)

Tinkeringbell

@RoryAlsop Now I'm kinda jealous ;) I want to sleep too :)

Tinkeringbell

14:13

@JAD nu.nl/media/6028150/…

Important news break.

Belle

@Tinkeringbell OMG

Tinkeringbell

We should arrange a TAS party to watch that ;)

El'endia Starman

> Moments later, the bird was shot from the sky.

(Google translated.) Holy crap lol.

Tinkeringbell

Oh, yeah... that was a thing XD

He's now a museum piece ;)

Domino Day 2005 sparrow

The Domino Day 2005 house sparrow, generally known as the domino sparrow (Dutch: dominomus) was a house sparrow, Passer domesticus, that was shot and killed by a hunter from the company Duke Faunabeheer in the Frisian Expo Centre in Leeuwarden, Netherlands during preparations for Domino Day 2005 on 14 November 2005. With only four days to go until Domino Day 2005, the bird flew into the building and landed on several domino bricks, eventually causing 23,000 of them (out of 4 million) to fall. Because of the protective gaps that were placed between groups of bricks, the damage was limited. Faunabeheer...

Ælis

Poor bird :(

Tinkeringbell

14:23

Poor domino builders! They had to reset 23k stones. ;)

Ælis

I would rather have to reset 23k stones than lose my life ^^

El'endia Starman

> In 2019 it was reported that even almost a decade and a half after the incident, the hunter who killed the bird still received threats to his life.[6]

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, people are crazy like that.

I bet if it had been a mouse caught with a trap, no one would've batted an eye

El'endia Starman

Probably had something to do with it being an endangered species. But yeah...

I wonder if the people there even knew it was a member of an endangered species.

~~Wait, not an endangered species, a protected species.~~ Turns out those are the same thing.

Belle

Oh I remember that stuff being on the radio. It was so ridiculous. They probably shouldn't have shot the bird, but the response to it seemed over the top.

Especially that -redacted- Ruud the Wild.

Tinkeringbell

14:31

They're a bit different, but yeah... Though nature/animal rights activists over here are generally PETA levels of crazy

At least the prominent ones

Ælis

@Belle Yeah, threatening someone life is not ok. Especially if the person was just doing their job!

Though, I do blame the people in charge of Domino Day for not having make more effort to trap the bird instead of killing it.

JAD

@Tinkeringbell :cough: Oostvaardersplassen :cough:

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell You might want to be careful with the word "crazy" ^^

Tinkeringbell

@Ælis Meh :P you have people with mental health problems and crazy people. Two totally different categories, I understand ;)

Ælis

14:47

And yet, people with mental health problems are often called "crazy"

Ælis

15:05

@Tinkeringbell I really dislike conflict, but I have decided that I shouldn't keep my feelings locked inside and that I should speak up for myself. So here it goes:

Seeing you use the world "crazy" this way hurts. I shouldn't call people crazy just because you don't understand them. People call me crazy for this exact same reason and it hurts every time. I'm not crazy, I'm just thinking in another way than you do. It doesn't makes me less worthy of respect. It's okay to disagree with people or to not understand the way they think. But it's not a reason to call them names. Insulting people…

By using "crazy"as an insult, you are propagating the idea that having a mental illness is indeed shameful. And, by doing so, you are preventing people from asking for help when they might need it.

Belle

Thank you for speaking up, @Ælis, especially about such a difficult topic.

If anyone wants some further reading, here's a good article: insider.com/…

Tinkeringbell

@Ælis No worries. Speaking up isn't necessary conflict. I'll get back to you, but I first have to finish the last half hour or so at work.

Extroverted Main Man

15:45

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Q: How do you use Instagram to get to know people outside your usual social circle?

Instagram is probably the most popular social media that allows you to meet people you haven’t seen before in real life; you normally can contact people within your social circle using other means like WhatsApp or Telegram. How do you make friends on Instagram? My understanding is that a social...

making-friends social-media

Belle

15:59

Why does C# not have discriminated unions? :(

El'endia Starman

Discriminated unions?

Belle

docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/fsharp/language-reference/…

brug

@Ælis Well put. I know it wasn't easy to say.

Belle

It's basically a way to say a value can be one of a few types and it's more typesafe than using "object".

scohe001

@Belle I feel like I just saw someone talking about this recently...was there a HNQ SO question about this? Or am I going crazy

Ælis

16:04

@brug @Belle Thank you both for your kind words <3

Belle

@scohe001 I haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean much :P

Both F# and TypeScript have discriminated unions. They can be super useful. Their use cases are similar to generics. It's nice for when you don't want inheritance. The most commonly used example is a Shape union. All Shapes have a height and a width and an area. Not all Shapes have an area that is height * width.

ankii

For a course, I made this presentation. excel sheet though, I spoke on the fly send.firefox.com/download/6c32dfcc7e3f05cc/…

Topics in research on Depression among students

scohe001

16:21

@Ælis I respect what you're saying here (and I'm glad that you've voiced your opinion!), but "crazy" can also mean "extremely eager, enthusiastic, fanatical, etc..." which I believe Tink was saying there. As in they have PETA levels of eagerness/enthusiasm for what they're doing (which causes them to maybe take things a step too far--which is the connotation I'm getting). Is it the word "crazy" in general that you have a problem with? Or only certain definitions/uses?

Ælis

@scohe001 I think the link provided by @Belle explain it better than I do: insider.com/…

Tinkeringbell

16:34

@Ælis The link is based on a false premise though, IMO it misinterpreted the guideline it links to to mean more than it actually does.

It says not to use mental health conditions

But to take that and have it become a blanket ban on words like 'crazy' is taking it out of context and too far. Crazy isn't a mental health condition, and it links to guideline saying not to use mental health conditions. While I understand your good intentions, a blanket ban on 'crazy' is untenable in terms of moderation.

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell I don't want a blanket ban of crazy. I just want you to not use it like that.

Tinkeringbell

If people call each other crazy, I'll moderate. If people call things crazy, well... That's where those meanings scohe linked to come in...

@Ælis I won't make that promise.

brug

I have to go but I want to interject one statement: Words have implicit meanings attached. At one time in my lifetime it was common to refer to undesirable things as gay. Many of the people who defended that used arguments about context and inanimate objects.

Using a term as a form of disparagement has implicit connections no matter if you want them to be there or not.

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El'endia Starman

(And even earlier "gay" meant "happy"!)

Tinkeringbell

There's... One lesson I recently learned about communicating. That is, that as soon as people start focusing on how things are expressed instead of what is being expressed, the conversation is better off over. I'm sorry y'all had to see this, I should've stuck with that advice and just regarded the conversation over.

Now. Cat please. As much as I hate being covered in pet hair, seems the room can use one

@chumpbot cat?

chumpbot

16:43

Tinkeringbell

Pretty!

El'endia Starman

Heterochromia!!

Tinkeringbell

It's a mutant ;)

scohe001

X-cats?

Mithical

No, it's still very much a cat, not an ex-cat. Not pining for the fjords.

scohe001

16:56

Hmm I feel like some of my coworkers are definitely ex-cat

avazula

You mean expats? :p

Tinkeringbell

@scohe001 Yeah ;)

Glad someone understood :P

El'endia Starman

Do they knock stuff off tables all the time?

scohe001

@avazula thanks google :p

@El'endiaStarman more like they only give me attention and the things I need when they feel like it. But I've also seen things knocked off tables lol

El'endia Starman

Aww bummer lol. ... Any ex-dogs? :P

scohe001

17:14

Lol I'm not sure what those traits would manifest as in the workplace

Tinkeringbell

Fetching coffee and overall too much friendliness?

Belle

Just got back from dinner. About crazy, I think it's okay to use phrases like "the new rollercoaster goes crazy fast!" or "that party was crazy". As long as it doesn't refer to a person or (a person's) behaviour. But that's my opinion and it is okay to disagree with it.

scohe001

Wait...does that mean all interns are ex-dogs?? O_O

Mithical

Unexplainable excitement whenever someone mentions the word "walk"?

Tinkeringbell

@scohe001 Probably ;)

@Mithical does 'food' count too? Because then I'm afraid I'm am ex dog too

Belle

17:37

We're doing OT at work, mostly waiting for the senior developers to deploy the release scripts while we stand by to work on bugs. It's quite a relaxed atmosphere tbh :)

Tinkeringbell

18:20

The only thing I like about OT is OT like that, and the quiet atmosphere at an open floor plan office ;)

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